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Post by chesterken on Oct 3, 2017 21:33:14 GMT
Agreed ..... no positives at all for me. Some dreadful performances tonight as bad a Dover. Dawson, Halls , Mahon, Shaw, Akintunde, Hannah, Davies were all shite. I thought after the last home game we were ok. We're a shambles and will go down unless he can ship out all the deadwood. Mahon was only on for 10 mins. We missed him for the next 80 whilst Fake Footballer had a go at shying away from the ball. Mahon was very poor in those 10 minutes |
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Post by Si on Oct 3, 2017 21:35:43 GMT
Agreed ..... no positives at all for me. Some dreadful performances tonight as bad a Dover. Dawson, Halls , Mahon, Shaw, Akintunde, Hannah, Davies were all shite. I thought after the last home game we were ok. We're a shambles and will go down unless he can ship out all the deadwood. Mahon was only on for 10 mins. We missed him for the next 80 whilst Fake Footballer had a go at shying away from the ball. Mahon cam be inconsistent but be never hides and always get 100% and pride in wearing the shirt. Him and Astles are indispensable.....no Mahon no width. No Astles at the back would make me shudder. |
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Post by MPW on Oct 3, 2017 21:36:35 GMT
Think we need a miracle to stay up to be honest as this squad is so unbalanced and limited. Unless MB is allowed to do a bit of transfer business soon, we’re going to be playing Conf North next season.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Oct 3, 2017 21:37:27 GMT
We have got Jon McCarthy to thank for that, he's the gift that keeps on giving. Building such an unbalanced squad meant that if our only winger gets injured then we have no width to bring on. We were left with Davies, who is woefully out of his depth at this level and I've still no idea if there is any position on a football pitch actually suits him. How did he get an extra year? Then we have no competition or cover for any of our defenders should they get injured or just need some competition. Also it's yet another team than are miles fitter and sharper than us.....what did we do in pre season? We started slow and paid the price. Woking looked far superior in possession although we were getting to grips with them a bit by the end of the first half. 2nd half Woking were quicker out of the blocks again but we came into it and looked like we could score. Astles hits the post and we are all set for a great last 20 mins where we had every chance of getting one back but then Halls completely kills us by selling Lynch short on a back pass. Game over. Halls should be embarrassed to pick up a pay packet after that dogshit performance tonight. He has been inept all season. He is poor at defending, has no composure, and no wonder all he does is hoof is because his distribution when he does try and pass is amongst the worst I've seen at this level. I'd seriously rather have Higgins who was dreadful but at least he could give us a bit of energy getting forward. But he has no competition for his place so we are stuck with him. He couldn't have been this bad at Macc surely? He was their captain and seemed well thought of in a team that did pretty well. Askey is a genius it seems. Marcus probably realises what a big job he has on his hands tonight. A small, unbalanced squad which is unlikely to change unless we have a have decent run in the cup to allow us to strengthen. But with Torquay getting those sort of results I worry whether we will be cut adrift come January. We were all frustrated tonight but who on earth is that strange chap on the terrace who seems to squeal "every balls a chester ball" on loop? He was berating Rowe Turner for being lazy.......Christ he was the only only getting down the flanks! Then he was yelling at Davies calling him a prick. I know Davies is poor but seriously what good is it abusing a young lad who is struggling? Don't understand the mindset of people at times. A word on Woking, who were a well drilled team who has terrific movement and passed the ball really well. Even though we had some chances, I always felt like we were just trying to counter attack whereas they controlled the majority of possession. It was all a bit McCarthy. Agree, we were always going to pay a price for allowing Macca to get his hands on this season's budget. It's why so many of us argued that McCarthy needed dealing with before the end of last season. Only the truly ignorant and our board couldn't see it. |
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Post by MPW on Oct 3, 2017 21:40:06 GMT
That was also our 7th consecutive defeat to Woking! Definitely our bogey team in recent years.
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Post by tarvinblue on Oct 3, 2017 21:44:34 GMT
Wow! That was a reality check and a half tonight. As people have said above we looked woefully unfit and off the pace. Woking were far slicker and some of their movement and passing was superb. They lacked somewhat in the final third but with a gift-horse like Halls around they needn't worry. Unfortunately this lack of fitness and aptitude is ingrained into this squad and the club in general. It is going to take Bignot a long time to remove the stench of the Burr/McCarthy era. That performance by Davies has to go down as one of the worst by a Chester player since reformation. I quite honestly have never seen a player try and control a ball in the manner that he does and I can't honesty believe I am saying I would prefer Chappel to him. We had zero width after Mahon went off and Woking did well to crowd out Dawson and Akintunde every time the ball came near them. I was really impressed with them - a small club, on a similar budget, with a young manager - it shows what can be achieved. I really don't know where Bignot goes from here. He has a squad of players of which only a handful are good enough and thrown into the mix with that is the fact 'Sir Jon' handed some woefully inadequate members two year deals. I can only assume it was the messiah's main tactic of drawing players to the club. A cup run is an absolutely necessity if we are to turn this season around. That would provide us with at least some funds to work with. If we are reliant on the players we had out there tonight then, with the best will in the world, we are going to really struggle to turn this around. Yet again we go back to the shocking sentimentality shown by the board to the previous incumbent at the end of last season and the long term issues that has created.
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Post by Anders on Oct 3, 2017 21:51:16 GMT
Wow! That was a reality check and a half tonight. As people have said above we looked woefully unfit and off the pace. Woking were far slicker and some of their movement and passing was superb. They lacked somewhat in the final third but with a gift-horse like Halls around they needn't worry. Unfortunately this lack of fitness and aptitude is ingrained into this squad and the club in general. It is going to take Bignot a long time to remove the stench of the Burr/McCarthy era. That performance by Davies has to go down as one of the worst by a Chester player since reformation. I quite honestly have never seen a player try and control a ball in the manner that he does and I can't honesty believe I am saying I would prefer Chappel to him. We had zero width after Mahon went off and Woking did well to crowd out Dawson and Akintunde every time the ball came near them. I was really impressed with them - a small club, on a similar budget, with a young manager - it shows what can be achieved. I really don't know where Bignot goes from here. He has a squad of players of which only a handful are good enough and thrown into the mix with that is the fact 'Sir Jon' handed some woefully inadequate members two year deals. I can only assume it was the messiah's main tactic of drawing players to the club. A cup run is an absolutely necessity if we are to turn this season around. That would provide us with at least some funds to work with. If we are reliant on the players we had out there tonight then, with the best will in the world, we are going to really struggle to turn this around. Yet again we go back to the shocking sentimentality shown by the board to the previous incumbent at the end of last season and the long term issues that has created. Regarding the bit in bold, unless it was a really good lookalike I saw Chapell walking back up Bumpers Lane away from the ground in his Chester gear 10 minutes before kick off. |
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Post by whopper3 on Oct 3, 2017 21:51:58 GMT
That was bloody awful tonight. As bad as it was under McCarthy. Well done Maguire for recruiting another pudding.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Oct 3, 2017 21:52:15 GMT
As I have said many times it was quite clear that there was something drastically wrong at the end of last season.
The ignorant and the board are solely responsible for the predicament in which we are presently in.
Let's hope MB is allowed to make some changes as it seems we will struggle to stay up if he can't.
He's only had two games and no doubt will of learnt a lot tonight. We are not too far away from needing to win 1 in 2 to stay up. That looks a big ask at the moment.
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Post by luckyblue on Oct 3, 2017 21:54:26 GMT
Lots of good reasoned comments on tonight's game. However.....i was praying for our first sub Davies, to be substituted off. He was trying hard, but has less apparent skill and football accumen than....no sorry...i can't think of anything that bad.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Oct 3, 2017 21:59:18 GMT
Feel for Bignot. The CUCK should've been shown the door at the end of last season, to stop any further damage being caused by the way of building his team. Alas, what's done is done. Bignot's success will be keeping us in this league.
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Oct 3, 2017 22:04:16 GMT
Bignot deserves to go straight into the hall of fame if he manages to keep this side up.
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Post by steveo1 on Oct 3, 2017 22:05:10 GMT
Where is Matty Waters?
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Post by Lobster on Oct 3, 2017 22:05:45 GMT
Certain people had a go at me for saying halls is worst than Higgins tonight proved it Hannah should not of got a two year deal Davies a waste of space but halls was shocking I was worried about Halls when the first thing he did after signing for us was go on Twitter and bad mouth his former employers. Even if he had a point, it wasn't very professional. I think he has a bad attitude and he certainly isn't playing very well. Problem is there's nobody else. Personally I like Matty Waters from what I've seen of him and would like to see him more involved. |
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Post by Hannibal on Oct 3, 2017 22:06:33 GMT
That was also our 7th consecutive defeat to Woking! Definitely our bogey team in recent years. 8th by my reckoning. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 22:13:23 GMT
Pass and move, pass and move,pass and move, again and again and again!
Unfortunately it was not us, it was a Woking outfit who obviously did their homework on us and knew exactly how to exploit our chronic lack of both strength and pace.
On top of that, they're a pretty streetwise lot who knew exactly what to do to break up the play. I didn't care for it, as did everyone else but have to admit it certainly was effective.
Thought both goals were poor from our point of view, the first when their striker got in front of our defender far too easily for the header, the second was a clanger of epic proportions.
Our lack of pace, midfield strength and imagination is worrying, we are too easily out thought and out fought and will struggle against any team who are organised, aggressive and play at pace.
MB will know now the scale of his task, and I guess who he wants to be involved and we should nw let him get on with it.
I'm sure he'll not hide behind the JM psychobabble in his post match analysis and suspect the players may feel his wrath as well they should after that performance.
I hope that the reaction he will try to get will actually benefit us on Saturday because we need both a Derby win and the points, the league position is looking increasingly dodgy.
A real wake up call tonight for MB but I'm confident he'll sort it out quickly.
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Post by sirfred on Oct 3, 2017 22:13:59 GMT
Down to earth with a bump - how I would love to see a Chester side play like Woking very quick and slick and closed us down hunting in packs- we were laboured and sluggish making error after error - Bignot unfortunately inherited some bums - Halls is error strewn Astley and Mcombe though solidish are far too slow to cope with pacy strikers- Joyce and Davies not up to standard - Shaw crab like and Hannah is pissing in the wind -It's going to take a great Manager to turn this lot around - best of luck Marcus- Thanks Macca for your recruitment you absolute tool- ps Macclesfield top with Durrell scoring again - enough said
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Oct 3, 2017 22:14:00 GMT
The one positive I am taking out of that tonight, is it's taken
Only 2 games for us to show Bignot just how poor we are, and what he's up against. Lets hope after seeing that shambles he can work some kind of miracle and get this lot looking like a proper football team !!!
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Post by Hannibal on Oct 3, 2017 22:15:20 GMT
Maybe relegation will be a blessing because we've mostly struggled in this league. Bignot needs the chance to build his own squad. Unfortunately 5 of those players are on 2 year contracts and on tonight's showing they shouldn't be.
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Post by jb on Oct 3, 2017 22:16:53 GMT
Certain people had a go at me for saying halls is worst than Higgins tonight proved it Hannah should not of got a two year deal Davies a waste of space but halls was shocking I was worried about Halls when the first thing he did after signing for us was go on Twitter and bad mouth his former employers. Even if he had a point, it wasn't very professional. I think he has a bad attitude and he certainly isn't playing very well. Problem is there's nobody else. Personally I like Matty Waters from what I've seen of him and would like to see him more involved. Sheron is a right back. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Oct 3, 2017 22:22:11 GMT
Certain people had a go at me for saying halls is worst than Higgins tonight proved it Hannah should not of got a two year deal Davies a waste of space but halls was shocking I was worried about Halls when the first thing he did after signing for us was go on Twitter and bad mouth his former employers. Even if he had a point, it wasn't very professional. I think he has a bad attitude and he certainly isn't playing very well. Problem is there's nobody else. Personally I like Matty Waters from what I've seen of him and would like to see him more involved. I have noticed something with Halls and McCombe. It seems as though they are almost separate from the group. They come on and off the pitch together, barely communicate with other members of the team and almost seem like an isolated pair. It has stood out to me even more since the changes were made. Halls for me is a massive question mark - his ability so far has been non-existent and he is a regular on Twitter passing remark. Certainly he doesn't strike me as the type that is willing to dig in when things aren't going his way. |
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Post by Anders on Oct 3, 2017 22:31:53 GMT
Maybe relegation will be a blessing because we've mostly struggled in this league. Bignot needs the chance to build his own squad. Unfortunately 5 of those players are on 2 year contracts and on tonight's showing they shouldn't be. Mahon, James, Hannah, Turnbull & Waters are the ones on two year deals aren't they? Personally I don't think that lot are the biggest problem fortunately, although Turnbull certainly needs to show more. |
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Post by Imperial on Oct 3, 2017 22:37:39 GMT
Not much to add to any of the above other than I think McCombe is getting away with murder here, not as bad as Halls or Davies but he had a shocker as well tonight.
Dawson shows flashes of real skill but loses one ball in three & Davies is competing with Joyce for "best impression of a professional footballer" award.
Absolutely awful.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Oct 3, 2017 22:40:30 GMT
Back to square one after tonight’s poor showing. McCarthy’s prescence still lingered around the ground, but at least Bignot will know what problems to sort out now. We didn’t have a game on Saturday, yet Woking we’re still fitter and played some attractive football. We weren’t sharp at all and just let the opposition play in triangles without putting any interceptions in, whilst we conceded 2 poor goals. The only two players who looked decent tonight were Astles and Rowe-Turner. The rest were poor and looked a shadow of the Maidenhead game.
Bignot has a real task on his hands to change things around. I believe he can rather quickly, but we played the exact same as we would under Jon McCarthy tonight.
Let’s hope we can put Tranmere under more pressure on Saturday and upset the odds. A win is needed. Come On You Blues!
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Post by bing on Oct 3, 2017 22:42:16 GMT
Really strange game that. Woking were clearly the better side - looked composed on the ball and passed it well - yet they only had two chances all game. Considering we weren't great we hit the woodwork, made chances and forced two excellent saves from their keeper, although Hannah's just seemed to hit him.
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Post by Imperial on Oct 3, 2017 23:09:04 GMT
Back to square one after tonight’s poor showing. McCarthy’s prescence still lingered around the ground, but at least Bignot will know what problems to sort out now. We didn’t have a game on Saturday, yet Woking we’re still fitter and played some attractive football. We weren’t sharp at all and just let the opposition play in triangles without putting any interceptions in, whilst we conceded 2 poor goals. The only two players who looked decent tonight were Astles and Rowe-Turner. The rest were poor and looked a shadow of the Maidenhead game. Bignot has a real task on his hands to change things around. I believe he can rather quickly, but we played the exact same as we would under Jon McCarthy tonight. Let’s hope we can put Tranmere under more pressure on Saturday and upset the odds. A win is needed. Come On You Blues! I think that's harsh on Shaw, he put 110% in. Hannah was working his balls off as well but he didn't have a great game. |
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Post by finno on Oct 3, 2017 23:20:18 GMT
So who's looking forward to Trashmere away then ?  also bet Alabi play's the game of his life against us |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Oct 3, 2017 23:41:41 GMT
We’re knackered in more ways than one. The players only train 3 x a week and are on full time money. We’ve attracted ordinary players here for a part time job and full time wage. Where we are in the league we need more, much more.
MaGuire you’ve stuffed us. Your advice and sanctioning of these decisions has shafted our club. But at least you’ve managed to appoint another Yes Man as manager.. We are DOOMED.
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Post by Forever Blue on Oct 4, 2017 0:53:00 GMT
I often question the fitness of the players and how much they have been allowed to get away with under SB and JM and hope it is one thing MB will sort out, also the slow starts and endings and stupid mistakes in between we make.
MB has one hell of a job on his hands after the club allowed JM to continue and spend the budget Good luck MB you are going to need it.
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Post by Forever Blue on Oct 4, 2017 1:06:17 GMT
We have got Jon McCarthy to thank for that, he's the gift that keeps on giving. Building such an unbalanced squad meant that if our only winger gets injured then we have no width to bring on. We were left with Davies, who is woefully out of his depth at this level and I've still no idea if there is any position on a football pitch actually suits him. How did he get an extra year? Then we have no competition or cover for any of our defenders should they get injured or just need some competition. Also it's yet another team than are miles fitter and sharper than us.....what did we do in pre season? We started slow and paid the price. Woking looked far superior in possession although we were getting to grips with them a bit by the end of the first half. 2nd half Woking were quicker out of the blocks again but we came into it and looked like we could score. Astles hits the post and we are all set for a great last 20 mins where we had every chance of getting one back but then Halls completely kills us by selling Lynch short on a back pass. Game over. Halls should be embarrassed to pick up a pay packet after that dogshit performance tonight. He has been inept all season. He is poor at defending, has no composure, and no wonder all he does is hoof is because his distribution when he does try and pass is amongst the worst I've seen at this level. I'd seriously rather have Higgins who was dreadful but at least he could give us a bit of energy getting forward. But he has no competition for his place so we are stuck with him. He couldn't have been this bad at Macc surely? He was their captain and seemed well thought of in a team that did pretty well. Askey is a genius it seems. Marcus probably realises what a big job he has on his hands tonight. A small, unbalanced squad which is unlikely to change unless we have a have decent run in the cup to allow us to strengthen. But with Torquay getting those sort of results I worry whether we will be cut adrift come January. We were all frustrated tonight but who on earth is that strange chap on the terrace who seems to squeal "every balls a chester ball" on loop? He was berating Rowe Turner for being lazy.......Christ he was the only only getting down the flanks! Then he was yelling at Davies calling him a prick. I know Davies is poor but seriously what good is it abusing a young lad who is struggling? Don't understand the mindset of people at times. A word on Woking, who were a well drilled team who has terrific movement and passed the ball really well. Even though we had some chances, I always felt like we were just trying to counter attack whereas they controlled the majority of possession. It was all a bit McCarthy. I don't think we just have JM to thank but we should also thank SB for leaving us JM so he could carry on his shit tactics after Ian Sharps left and just as importantly the club for taking the cheap option in the first place. Only at Chester. |
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also bet Alabi play's the game of his life against us