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Post by Shrewd Blue on Feb 11, 2017 17:26:47 GMT
My biggest concern is that what we are trying to achieve as a fans owned club requires a level of intelligence, buy in and patience that the average football fan in this era doesn't have. You're absolutely right.
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Post by sqzl on Feb 11, 2017 17:29:09 GMT
Very poor after the first 1/2 hour. No energy to show for a pass = lump it up in the hope that Alabi can make something of it. Never going to work. Not sure who got MOM but I'd struggle to pick anyone,maybe Hudson for his goal and last ditch tackle. Thought Joyce had a reasonable game in contrast to some comments above. Hudson got MoM Yes you still have some on here saying Hughes and Astles as CB would have worked better for us. It was Astles at fault for both goals today, albeit Roberts has to take big blame for the first. Johnson had him in his pocket.
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Post by The Deva Beaver on Feb 11, 2017 17:34:15 GMT
Frustrating today. We started the better and deserved our 1-0 lead. Their equaliser seemed to knock the stuffing out of us though. It was a good run by the lad but we were crying out for someone to put a foot in and I think Roberts will be disappointed with how he dealt with the shot. Second half was inexcusably poor. We just didn't create enough and although Gateshead are always a well organised side you need to be doing more at home when you're chasing the game. Alabi was my MOM, he worked really hard and caused them problems. He was though, hopelessly isolated at times and it was largely down to the formation. Some big games coming up because not only should we pick up points, we really HAVE to pick up points. I know the usual suspects will point to the fact that we're pretty safe (for now) but we know how easily a few defeats can become a run of something more worrying. The last 3/4 games were always going to be challenging. We do need to start putting points on the board again though, no matter how safe we may look. Pretty much go along with this summary of the game. The first half was ok, but as soon as Gateshead got the equaliser not long after we scored we then gradually lost confidence and couldn't get a grip on the game.
Alabi tried hard all match and was unfortunate not to score with one effort in the second half, but he clearly found it difficult to create much when he's up front on his own. Richards tried to make things happen a bit when he came on, but it wasn't a good enough display by Chester in the second half. Certainly not the best game of football on show for live TV.
I watched on the tele today as I have a cold, but wanted your opinions - Luke George looked absolutely awful today. I know sometimes you don't get to see everything on the tele, but was he really that bad? Im not his biggest fan at the best of times. More zippy and George, rather than Luke George usually.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 11, 2017 17:34:58 GMT
Well, our chance to impress failed. We just had no fight in us and we were all at sea for most of the game. I thought Vassell looked lively before he went off, and that changed the game imo. We just lost our width and the equaliser just made it too easy. This lead to Macca chopping and changing and I don't even know why Lloyd switched to left-back. Don't get me started on the MR Johnson (the ref). He is probably the worst ref in the league. He was just a big time Charlie, constantly making wrong decisions and breaking up the play. Also the linesman next to me got some decisions wrong too. The Gateshead player just kept moving forward to take a throw in which wasn't spotted. Anyway, we were poor and I felt sorry for Alabi who was trying really hard to battle the Gateshead players and getting into positions. Hudson played ok too, although he had a possible head injury. The kids behind the goal made some great noise. If it wasn't for them there would've been about 1,500 in attendance. I'm so glad that we had a really good first half to the season. Onto Maidstone next Saturday.
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Post by HeedofBeers on Feb 11, 2017 17:35:31 GMT
Not meaning to rub it in but you are the worse team we have played this season how you are not in the bottom 4 Iv no idea you can tell you are part time good luck with the rest of the season. I think it's fair to say we made you look good today, and you didn't even look that good. You didn't create that much and what you did was gifted to you by two keeping errors. This Heed fan above must of never seen us play either game against North Ferriby.
I think we deserved the win just our front line was the difference and you guys look to be lacking confidence. No chance of you guys going down and I will have a good night in the Telford Warehouse
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Post by Helsby Blue on Feb 11, 2017 17:36:22 GMT
Yes you still have some on here saying Hughes and Astlea as CB would have worked better for us. It was Astlea at fault for both goals today, albeit Roberts has to take big blame for the first. Johnson had him in his pocket. Hudson and astles at CB and again we concede 2 having conceded 3 in the last 2 games. The solidity in our defence and the run of consecutive clean sheets earlier on in the season was the with arguably our best player in his strongest position. Astles doesn't look comfortable with Hudson next to him, he hasn't all season. Astles is at his strongest when he has Hughes in the back 2.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Feb 11, 2017 17:38:34 GMT
Yes you still have some on here saying Hughes and Astlea as CB would have worked better for us. It was Astlea at fault for both goals today, albeit Roberts has to take big blame for the first. Johnson had him in his pocket. Hudson and astles at CB and again we concede 2 having conceded 3 in the last 2 games. The solidity in our defence and the run of consecutive clean sheets earlier on in the season was the with arguably our best player in his strongest position. Astles doesn't look comfortable with Hudson next to him, he hasn't all season. Astles is at his strongest when he has Hughes in the back 2. You really can't argue with that
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Post by Lobster on Feb 11, 2017 17:39:11 GMT
Pretty much go along with this summary of the game. The first half was ok, but as soon as Gateshead got the equaliser not long after we scored we then gradually lost confidence and couldn't get a grip on the game.
Alabi tried hard all match and was unfortunate not to score with one effort in the second half, but he clearly found it difficult to create much when he's up front on his own. Richards tried to make things happen a bit when he came on, but it wasn't a good enough display by Chester in the second half. Certainly not the best game of football on show for live TV.
I watched on the tele today as I have a cold, but wanted your opinions - Luke George looked absolutely awful today. I know sometimes you don't get to see everything on the tele, but was he really that bad? Im not his biggest fan at the best of times. More zippy and George, rather than Luke George usually.You could've gone with "more like Bungle than George"
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Post by The Deva Beaver on Feb 11, 2017 17:41:48 GMT
I watched on the tele today as I have a cold, but wanted your opinions - Luke George looked absolutely awful today. I know sometimes you don't get to see everything on the tele, but was he really that bad? Im not his biggest fan at the best of times. More zippy and George, rather than Luke George usually.You could've gone with "more like Bungle than George" Drat, didn't think of that. Feel like a right Geoffrey now!
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Post by durdy on Feb 11, 2017 17:42:40 GMT
Disappointing to see Mahon leaving through the side door before the final whistle obviously not staying behind for any type of team bonding,didn't loom injured either, we really could have done with him today
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Post by border collie on Feb 11, 2017 17:45:38 GMT
Disappointing to see Mahon leaving through the side door before the final whistle obviously not staying behind for any type of team bonding,didn't loom injured either, we really could have done with him today not convinced he isnt fit personally . and if he is unfit ,what does that make Astles ?
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Post by franksalot on Feb 11, 2017 17:49:40 GMT
Why not try Hughes and Hudson at CB , today Astles looked a cart horse and heavy one at that. I've thought for the last few games I've been at we've looked like there's no creativity going forward , a player who will run the opposition defence and make them think , like others have said we have players you would think could play alongside Alabi.
Back to a straightforward 4-4-2 for me
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Post by Buckley Blue on Feb 11, 2017 17:50:53 GMT
Very hard to add anything to what I've read here. My only regret is that when I heard the team news as I pulled up in the car park I didn't turn round and come home.
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Post by Helsby Blue on Feb 11, 2017 17:59:07 GMT
Why not try Hughes and Hudson at CB , today Astles looked a cart horse and heavy one at that. I've thought for the last few games I've been at we've looked like there's no creativity going forward , a player who will run the opposition defence and make them think , like others have said we have players you would think could play alongside Alabi. Back to a straightforward 4-4-2 for me Yeah totally agree, Hudson and Hughes is worth going with.
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Post by Anders on Feb 11, 2017 18:00:12 GMT
Disappointing to see Mahon leaving through the side door before the final whistle obviously not staying behind for any type of team bonding,didn't loom injured either, we really could have done with him today Recovered hasn't he? came on at Dover the other week. Considering that, I don't know why Chapell sort of jumped the queue to make the bench today ahead of him and O'Brien. Fair to say I’ve been scratching my head a lot with Macca today, don’t understand his logic today at all! Nothing to be overly concerned about though, he publically said he was going to be a bit more adventurous in an attempt for wins and he has been, just hasn’t worked. Dover and Dagenham were good performances but we were a bit more open than usual (as he said we would be) and we’ve conceded a few more goals as a result. Today, well, he’s had a mare in fairness. We’ve just played three play-off chasing teams as well, two of them long away trips, let’s not forget.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 11, 2017 18:11:18 GMT
You could've gone with "more like Bungle than George" Drat, didn't think of that. Feel like a right Geoffrey now! Theirs also a character called George. That would tie in well.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 11, 2017 18:12:36 GMT
FairPlay to the drummers behind the goal. Heard chants of 'Brutus' in the 85th minute.
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Post by ted the count on Feb 11, 2017 18:13:00 GMT
More like Mildred than George(One for the kid's there)
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Post by Rubber duck on Feb 11, 2017 18:13:14 GMT
What about all those poor kids who got in for free. They could be scarred for life. I think poor old Tristan and Oliver will now stick to rugger and croquet like most Chester kids
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Post by Lobster on Feb 11, 2017 18:26:21 GMT
Drat, didn't think of that. Feel like a right Geoffrey now! Theirs also a character called George. That would tie in well. That was the root of the joke in the first place. Anyway, as long as Rod, Jane and Freddy don't turn up!
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Post by ted the count on Feb 11, 2017 18:35:38 GMT
Nah mate,Rod,Jane and Freddy will be starting next week in another wacky episode of 'Mad Macca pick's'
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Post by Arrogant Blue on Feb 11, 2017 18:41:58 GMT
So one bad performance and the ever reliable Astles becomes the whipping boy? Unbelievable! Not his best game but much better than the usual crap performers Durrell, George, Richards et al.
I just hope McCarthy has the guts this close season to bin off the ones who failed to perform last season like Chappell, George, Richards as they are too weak for this league.
Waters had an impressive game against Forest Gump and gives width. However, now nowhere to be seen!
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Post by Buckley Blue on Feb 11, 2017 18:48:44 GMT
So one bad performance and the ever reliable Astles becomes the whipping boy? Unbelievable! Not his best game but much better than the usual crap performers Durrell, George, Richards et al. I just hope McCarthy has the guts this close season to bin off the ones who failed to perform last season like Chappell, George, Richards as they are too weak for this league. Waters had an impressive game against Forest Gump and gives width. However, now nowhere to be seen! It's not just one bad performance though is it, he's been lack lustre the last few games and his distribution has gone from passing to hoof. He's played well for so long it's more noticeable when he doesn't.
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Post by Harry Lime on Feb 11, 2017 19:04:00 GMT
Agree with most of the comments in this thread.
The interesting question for Macca is why did we stop playing 442 sometime back? Our good run was mainly based on this. At the start of the season Macca said, "I'll keep it simple as players have grown up with this formation". Recently this has changed. Why?
Is it because we only have 2 fit strikers? If so, get another one in. Is it since Iwelumo joined? If so, Macca needs to back his own judgement, and get his assistant to do what HE needs him to do. I do notice Alabi has scored loads more si CE Iwelumo joined. Is it to vary the set up to give the opposition more to think about before the game? Can see the benefit of that, but only if it suits us, too.
Macca said at a pre season CFU meeting he wanted 4 strikers and 4 wide players so that he could rotate and substitute them to change a game. Leaving the rest to keep the shape. Today we had 4 wide players. Mahon and O'Brien weren't in the squad. Chapell was on the bench. Durrell mainly played central. Richards also on bench. So, no-one wide at all and one isolated striker.
We've tried 4231, 442 diamond, 4141, 451 in recent weeks. At home, none of these has been particularly convincing. We need to be good at home, and play attacking entertaining football, to bring in crowds and revenue. Hopefully we'll get to 50 points fairly quickly so that we can relax and play attacking football without risk.
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Post by dmcnally on Feb 11, 2017 19:06:48 GMT
FairPlay to the drummers behind the goal. Heard chants of 'Brutus' in the 85th minute. That was me, and a few others.
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Post by agl on Feb 11, 2017 19:10:15 GMT
So one bad performance and the ever reliable Astles becomes the whipping boy? Unbelievable! Not his best game but much better than the usual crap performers Durrell, George, Richards et al. I just hope McCarthy has the guts this close season to bin off the ones who failed to perform last season like Chappell, George, Richards as they are too weak for this league. Waters had an impressive game against Forest Gump and gives width. However, now nowhere to be seen! perhaps because he had a shocker at Dover. Waters is one for next season IMO. It's not just one bad performance though is it, he's been lack lustre the last few games and his distribution has gone from passing to hoof. He's played well for so long it's more noticeable when he doesn't.
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Post by sirfred on Feb 11, 2017 19:16:36 GMT
I had to park behind the away stand today after being ushered their by The Grinch and left early as the youngsters were streaming out- I heard a young lad telling his Adult mentor that was rubbish - why do we always disappoint when there is a chance to capture additional supporters of the future!
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Post by sqzl on Feb 11, 2017 19:28:06 GMT
Hudson and astles at CB and again we concede 2 having conceded 3 in the last 2 games. The solidity in our defence and the run of consecutive clean sheets earlier on in the season was the with arguably our best player in his strongest position. Astles doesn't look comfortable with Hudson next to him, he hasn't all season. Astles is at his strongest when he has Hughes in the back 2. You really can't argue with that IMO you can, Astles at fault today for at least one of the goals. Who's the say he's undroppable because he's played well earlier this season? Id try Hudson and Hughes, drop Astles and get him fitter. Good in the air, not much kop at anything else lately. Hudson and Astles doesn't work because there's no pace, Sam bails Astles out sometimes.
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Post by franksalot on Feb 11, 2017 19:46:30 GMT
You really can't argue with that IMO you can, Astles at fault today for at least one of the goals. Who's the say he's undroppable because he's played well earlier this season? Id try Hudson and Hughes, drop Astles and get him fitter. Good in the air, not much kop at anything else lately. Hudson and Astles doesn't work because there's no pace, Sam bails Astles out sometimes. So if Astles looks a far better player alongside Hughes what's to say Hudson won't ? Think Hughes and Hudson has got to be worth a shout , Don't get me wrong I like Astles but maybe it's time to give him a rest and get lynch back in net. Think whoever plays CB though will get more protection if we go back to Shaw and Lloyd at CM in a 4-4-2
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Post by soulseal on Feb 11, 2017 20:09:30 GMT
I think we've come a long way this season on limited resources. But today showed how far we still have to go.
We we well beaten today by a much better organised Gateshead. Our strength has been getting goals on the break and we were close to scoring a few more with Shaw's shot in the first half when put through after a bit of magic by Durrell and Alabi in the second after a bit of brilliance.
But these opportunities aside we retreated to defend deep and invited Gateshead to attack and the result was inevitable.
Losing Vassell was a blow as he offers such a threat going forward. The midfield was packed with uncreative players in George, Joyce and Horwood who have no pace and we need only one of them in team at anyone time. Shaw played well in the wrong position and Lloyd had a bad day with none of his usual energy.
I would have preferred O'Brien, Mahon or Richards to partner Alabi because we need Shaw in midfield. Without him we can only boot the ball out of defence and there is no link up play.
Hughes looked out of sorts; maybe he's miffed at not getting the transfer to Barnsley. Hudson battled well within his limits and Astle had a bit of a mare as did Roberts.
We are not going to win playing like this with a three defence midfielders hoping Astles and Hudson clear their lines for 90 minutes. I think Macca is missing Sharps ☹️
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