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Post by Wortleyblue on Nov 22, 2017 11:12:45 GMT
You have to question whether all the signings are better than we already have. It maybe some are short term cover for injuries etc. I hope they are. It looks a bit Burr like at the moment. Worryingly. When Atkins put together his relegation battling squad, it was just that. Tough, experienced players. We seem to be signing young lads for the future. It's great if we stay up and can build, develop and improve them. Win Win in that case. Not sure they are what we need right now though. It will be tough for them this season. We'll have a better view of MB and his plans by early January. We've a run a games where we need to pick up 7-9 points (after Saturday). If we don't, chances are we'll go down. It'll be purely down to budget.
The only way we could go out and sign experienced, tough players would be if we managed to get rid of some of the top earners in that side. Chappell isn't/wasn't on a big wage, so he's gone out, and all we can afford is to gamble on a couple of young lads from lower down the leagues in the hope they come good.
So unless, by some miracle, we can ship out the likes of Halls, McCombe, Hannah, Turnbull, Mahon and James, we will probably be signing more lads like Jordan Archer and Jorome Slew
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Post by Lobster on Nov 22, 2017 11:14:36 GMT
You have to question whether all the signings are better than we already have. It maybe some are short term cover for injuries etc. I hope they are. It looks a bit Burr like at the moment. Worryingly. When Atkins put together his relegation battling squad, it was just that. Tough, experienced players. We seem to be signing young lads for the future. It's great if we stay up and can build, develop and improve them. Win Win in that case. Not sure they are what we need right now though. It will be tough for them this season. We'll have a better view of MB and his plans by early January. We've a run a games where we need to pick up 7-9 points (after Saturday). If we don't, chances are we'll go down. It'll be purely down to budget.
The only way we could go out and sign experienced, tough players would be if we managed to get rid of some of the top earners in that side. Chappell isn't/wasn't on a big wage, so he's gone out, and all we can afford is to gamble on a couple of young lads from lower down the leagues in the hope they come good.
So unless, by some miracle, we can ship out the likes of Halls, McCombe, Hannah, Turnbull, Mahon and James, we will probably be signing more lads like Jordan Archer and Jorome Slew
This is true. The one thing you could say about the Terry Smith squad Atkins inherited was that it was cheap. Some of those players were said to be on less than £100 a week, so it wasn't hard to get rid of them. |
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Post by chesterken on Nov 22, 2017 11:34:54 GMT
It’s all about our home form now we need to make the Deva a fortress .
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 22, 2017 12:45:13 GMT
It'll be purely down to budget.
The only way we could go out and sign experienced, tough players would be if we managed to get rid of some of the top earners in that side. Chappell isn't/wasn't on a big wage, so he's gone out, and all we can afford is to gamble on a couple of young lads from lower down the leagues in the hope they come good.
So unless, by some miracle, we can ship out the likes of Halls, McCombe, Hannah, Turnbull, Mahon and James, we will probably be signing more lads like Jordan Archer and Jorome Slew
Who may turn out to be good investments (hopefully) Agree with all these replies. I've no issue at all with MB bringing in these young players. That's the kind of players we all want to see us signing. However, unless they actually improve the team (and subs bench) now, we could be spending loads more without staying up. It's the short term that concerns me. Maybe the experienced players we have will be able to support the younger ones, while they develop. |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 22, 2017 12:48:54 GMT
Really doesn't look like Akintunde's crossed the line
Cracking strike by Hannah from the free kick, but a piss-poor penalty. Also, Bell should really have put that away before the Orient player had a chance to foul him. Debatable whether that was even a foul, to be honest.
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Post by Al on Nov 22, 2017 12:56:04 GMT
Who may turn out to be good investments (hopefully) Agree with all these replies. I've no issue at all with MB bringing in these young players. That's the kind of players we all want to see us signing. However, unless they actually improve the team (and subs bench) now, we could be spending loads more without staying up. It's the short term that concerns me. Maybe the experienced players we have will be able to support the younger ones, while they develop. That's the problem though. the more experienced players haven't been performing to the required standard and it looks like the younger one's having to keep the more experienced ones in it.
the like of Turnbull, Shaw, Mahon, McCombe, Hannah (bar last two games), and Lathaniel Rowe-Turner, have either been missing through injury, suspension, or just not had any sort of form whatsoever. They should be key to what is otherwise a very young squad of players. The start of that second half last night you should be having the like of these lads trying to drag the rest up.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Nov 22, 2017 13:01:09 GMT
so so deep for the McAnuff goal.
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Post by steveo1 on Nov 22, 2017 13:28:23 GMT
Dawson should be taking the pens, didnt he take our last one.
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Post by steveo1 on Nov 22, 2017 13:31:25 GMT
Rotten penalty from Hannah, not sure why Bell doesn't just poke it in.
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Post by MOC on Nov 22, 2017 13:38:00 GMT
The worst-case scenario now would be to slip up on Saturday and then for other results to go against us both that afternoon and the following week when we've not got a game due to Fylde being in the FA Cup. Orient play Torquay this week and Solihull the week after. If we were to be several points adrift of safety going into our game against Solihull then that would be a psychological blow and make the imminent run of games even more important than they already are. A win against the Daggers would certainly make life easier for us.
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Post by Zvonimir Boban on Nov 22, 2017 13:49:32 GMT
Dawson should be taking the pens, didnt he take our last one. I think Hannah took our last penalty v Maidenhead (?). I specifically remember that one has Hannah gave Dawson a little nudge in the back to make sure he got the ball first in order to take the pen. He scored, I can't remember us having one since though but might be forgetting one. |
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Post by imadeva on Nov 22, 2017 14:03:39 GMT
Well that’s another game which should have been won,but Bignot decides to sit back and keep what we had got,if that had been maccarthy there would have been uproar on here.
Still averaging 1 point a game which in is interview he said would not have got us in the bottom four after ten games,he might be right but I can assure he one thing if we continue with a point a game we will be in bottom 4 at the end of the season.Also everyone keeps banging on about improvement well not for me yes he’s assembling a group what will compete and put a tackle in (hence all the yellow cards)but that is all, still lack pace for the biggest part of the team.Bignot has signed 9 players now plus still got some of the better players left from when he took over.Lets stop moaning about injuries and suspensions,were not the only team to get them,last thing why wasn’t Bignot asked by Dave Powell about his antics on the sideline.
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Post by chesterken on Nov 22, 2017 14:55:49 GMT
Well that’s another game which should have been won,but Bignot decides to sit back and keep what we had got,if that had been maccarthy there would have been uproar on here. Still averaging 1 point a game which in is interview he said would not have got us in the bottom four after ten games,he might be right but I can assure he one thing if we continue with a point a game we will be in bottom 4 at the end of the season.Also everyone keeps banging on about improvement well not for me yes he’s assembling a group what will compete and put a tackle in (hence all the yellow cards)but that is all, still lack pace for the biggest part of the team.Bignot has signed 9 players now plus still got some of the better players left from when he took over.Lets stop moaning about injuries and suspensions,were not the only team to get them,last thing why wasn’t Bignot asked by Dave Powell about his antics on the sideline. The problem is you don’t get pace and quality for nothing which is what we have got, I think the new lad has pace to burn and might turn out as a good deal for us |
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Post by imadeva on Nov 22, 2017 15:24:38 GMT
Well that’s another game which should have been won,but Bignot decides to sit back and keep what we had got,if that had been maccarthy there would have been uproar on here. Still averaging 1 point a game which in is interview he said would not have got us in the bottom four after ten games,he might be right but I can assure he one thing if we continue with a point a game we will be in bottom 4 at the end of the season.Also everyone keeps banging on about improvement well not for me yes he’s assembling a group what will compete and put a tackle in (hence all the yellow cards)but that is all, still lack pace for the biggest part of the team.Bignot has signed 9 players now plus still got some of the better players left from when he took over.Lets stop moaning about injuries and suspensions,were not the only team to get them,last thing why wasn’t Bignot asked by Dave Powell about his antics on the sideline. The problem is you don’t get pace and quality for nothing which is what we have got, I think the new lad has pace to burn and might turn out as a good deal for us I hope your right and he helps us out of this mess. |
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Post by toto on Nov 22, 2017 15:33:20 GMT
Really doesn't look like Akintunde's crossed the line Cracking strike by Hannah from the free kick, but a piss-poor penalty. Also, Bell should really have put that away before the Orient player had a chance to foul him. Debatable whether that was even a foul, to be honest. Having carried out some forensic tests, he was pushed over quite blatantly. The penalty take was poor though! Looked a good game though and football was good with passing as opposed to hoofing, which you could expect from 2 struggling sides. All we need is a goalscorer...Bell isn't (as yet) |
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Post by Al on Nov 22, 2017 15:41:17 GMT
Really doesn't look like Akintunde's crossed the line Cracking strike by Hannah from the free kick, but a piss-poor penalty. Also, Bell should really have put that away before the Orient player had a chance to foul him. Debatable whether that was even a foul, to be honest. Having carried out some forensic tests, he was pushed over quite blatantly. The penalty take was poor though! Looked a good game though and football was good with passing as opposed to hoofing, which you could expect from 2 struggling sides. All we need is a goalscorer...Bell isn't (as yet) Sorry I don't buy that.
For the simple reason that, we've scored more goals this season than Wrexham who are top of the table. Our problem is, and always has been that our Goals Conceded record is disgusting.
we have conceded 32 goals in 21 games. We are where we are because defensively we are diabolical.
If we go down it will be because defensively we are a nightmare.
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Post by billyw on Nov 22, 2017 17:09:09 GMT
Sorry I don't buy that.
For the simple reason that, we've scored more goals this season than Wrexham who are top of the table. Our problem is, and always has been that our Goals Conceded record is disgusting.
we have conceded 32 goals in 21 games. We are where we are because defensively we are diabolical.
If we go down it will be because defensively we are a nightmare.
Spot on. To have a successful team, you have to build from the back. Wrexham are top of the league solely because of their strong defence. |
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Post by bing on Nov 22, 2017 17:36:59 GMT
Really doesn't look like Akintunde's crossed the lineCracking strike by Hannah from the free kick, but a piss-poor penalty. Also, Bell should really have put that away before the Orient player had a chance to foul him. Debatable whether that was even a foul, to be honest. Having carried out some forensic tests, he was pushed over quite blatantly. The penalty take was poor though! Looked a good game though and football was good with passing as opposed to hoofing, which you could expect from 2 struggling sides. All we need is a goalscorer...Bell isn't (as yet) I thought that when I saw the video - but then saw this great photo today! (credit Rick Matthews) Attachments:
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Post by Si on Nov 22, 2017 18:06:18 GMT
The 2nd goal Lynch should be reacting better than that. It's a huge weakness of his in that he doesn't react to long range shots. He is generally good at close range efforts but is beaten far too often from outside the area. McAnuff strikes it well but he is a long way out and Lynch doesn't even move. Got to at least expecting the worst and get yourself ready for a shot and attempt to save it.
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 22, 2017 18:12:39 GMT
Just out of interest Whopper 3, were you there tonight ? and will he show his face at the anchor on thursday and tell maguire and bignott to their faces what he thinks of them or is he just a keyboard pussy? Why would I want to socialise with incompetent people like Maguire and Bignot ? |
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 22, 2017 18:14:22 GMT
Lynch is probably one of the worst keepers to wear our shirt.
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Post by joebloggs on Nov 22, 2017 18:22:21 GMT
and will he show his face at the anchor on thursday and tell maguire and bignott to their faces what he thinks of them or is he just a keyboard pussy? Why would I want to socialise with incompetent people like Maguire and Bignot ? not to socialise but to hold them to account, given your feelings towards them. No point telling them to leave the club on a forum tell it to them in person. |
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 22, 2017 18:38:16 GMT
Maguire knows my thoughts. I have told him in person he should not be CEO of our club.
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Post by wxmred on Nov 22, 2017 18:58:49 GMT
Really doesn't look like Akintunde's crossed the line Cracking strike by Hannah from the free kick, but a piss-poor penalty. Also, Bell should really have put that away before the Orient player had a chance to foul him. Debatable whether that was even a foul, to be honest. Some poor defending from both sides. |
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Post by shango on Nov 22, 2017 19:11:40 GMT
Why would I want to socialise with incompetent people like Maguire and Bignot ? not to socialise but to hold them to account, given your feelings towards them. No point telling them to leave the club on a forum tell it to them in person. Ignore the keyboard warrior mate,He's not man enough to stand up and say it to MM's face and we all know it.But hey that's typical of any troll isnt it. |
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 22, 2017 20:01:04 GMT
shango
Do you not understand English ?
I volunteer at the club at least one day a week . Do you ?
Maguire knows exactly what I think of him as CEO.
You need to go look up the definition of a troll old son. Being negative of a situation is not being a troll.
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Post by richard on Nov 22, 2017 21:00:28 GMT
shango Do you not understand English ? I volunteer at the club at least one day a week . Do you ? Maguire knows exactly what I think of him as CEO. You need to go look up the definition of a troll old son. Being negative of a situation is not being a troll u thicko. I volunteer at the club at least one day a week . Do you ? In what capacity do you volunteer? Have you signed the volunteer code of conduct? If the answer is yes, then you are in breach of said code by effectively bringing the business into disrepute. Having said that I do not believe for a moment that you are anything other than a WUM and a cowardly one at that. |
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Post by shango on Nov 22, 2017 21:11:55 GMT
Spot on Richard and well said.
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Post by norwegianblue on Nov 22, 2017 22:01:47 GMT
I thought that when I saw the video - but then saw this great photo today! (credit Rick Matthews) If you see the reaction after Akintunde's goal, only Orients outfield players are complaining. If the ball had not gone in, the keeper would have been in the ref's face. Good pic by the way  |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 22, 2017 22:20:15 GMT
It is a good picture but it's totally inconclusive in showing whether the ball was over the line or not.
And another thing - I hate seeing players congratulate each other for winning a penalty. Score it, then you can celebrate - not before! We should've been gutted not to have scored in open play there.
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