BREXIT

They also voted against Parliamentary scrutiny of trade deals.

Not only did MPs fail to protect our NHS they didn’t even vote to give themselves the powers to “take back control” - the irony.

It does feel with this government that nobody is surprised but a lot of people just don't care. It's like they don't think they deserve any better.

Exactly. As something of a student of history it always used to trouble me as to how, in an advanced, supposedly civilised state like 1930s Germany, the Nazis achieved power and millions of people were willing participants in the unfolding horror.
Now, in the 21st century U.K. I am beginning to understand. The power of the right wing press and social media sites to push a message of intolerance and division is something to behold. A lot of it is straight out of the Goebbels playbook and we have reached a point where any criticism of Tory policy is viewed as anti-British and opposition is now sedition.
This country is moving rapidly to somewhere really dark and to be honest I find it genuinely alarming.

Don't hold your breath

It’s a decision based on political expediency and not a legal one. I’m really disappointed the Labour Party didn’t contest this, especially after the WhatsApp messages from some of the litigants were revealed in the leaked Labour report.
If the party really wants to be open and transparent and draw a line under the whole affair, all the evidence must be revealed. If this isn’t forthcoming I do hope Jeremy Corbyn, and others, seek legal advice as I fear they have been the victim of a smear campaign and political assassination.

We've had 111 pages of moralising over Tory voters, Brexit voters etc from the gang but then with this very serious issue you just get mindless outright denial.

Very revealing.

What did you expect

I’ve provided what I deem to be a reasonable reply, and I think Ian has too.

You claimed you wouldn’t hear from us at all (or that it’d be a long time coming). We can’t make you believe us, but then I’m sure it wouldn’t have mattered what either of us had said - you’d have disagreed with it.

"Everybody overwhelmingly rejected" - 10.2 million people voted for them.

It's just difference of opinion really, isn't it?

I've never seen evidence of this supposed anti-Semitism from Corbyn. Perhaps some clumsiness and poor judgment, but nothing more. It seems to me like certain Labour MPs just didn't like the way he was running the party, and once the media gave them an anti- or an - ism to add weight to their concerns, it escalated from there.

Corbyn was/is not perfect, but he's just always seemed to me like a compassionate, principled and sensible person, like what New Zealand has. As a country we don't want those qualities in a leader, and it just seems odd to me when these are the values you're brought up to learn and that you try to instill in your kids.

Crikey. Not very good at this politics malarkey are you? Bring back the fella who handed the Tories everything on a plate and was also investigated by the ECHR for good measure. Let’s face facts, Corbyn was an unelectable moron. Let it go. 

Found this for you link

Taken from the ECHR’s own website:


“The European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) is an international human rights treaty between the 47 states that are members of the Council of Europe (CoE) - not to be confused with the European Union.

Governments signed up to the ECHR have made a legal commitment to abide by certain standards of behaviour and to protect the basic rights and freedoms of ordinary people. It is a treaty to protect the rule of law and promote democracy in European countries.”


Again, why would they need to investigate the leader of an opposition party, given the above remit?

I’m waiting for the original poster to post a link regarding the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) seeing as he made the statement. Can’t find anything about it, myself.