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Aug 16, 2020 21:44:43 GMT
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Post by 1paulcarden on Aug 16, 2020 21:44:43 GMT
Corbyn’s greatest achievement was to get the working class to vote for the boot that kicks them in the jaw. Bigger win than the 2017 landslide. To judge the opposition after 4 months when we were begged to give Jez 5 years plus of absolute failure really shows a total lack of awareness. Speaking of awareness - those within Labour now calling for unity after five years of wrecking, “I’ll stab him in the front” and deliberately throwing an election (2017 fund diversion) possess a GLARING lack of it. What about 2019 when he really got the chance to show the working class who was boss? |
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Aug 16, 2020 21:46:20 GMT
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Post by 1paulcarden on Aug 16, 2020 21:46:20 GMT
Like asking the country to vote for Jon McCarthy as prime minister.
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Aug 16, 2020 21:57:19 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 16, 2020 21:57:19 GMT
Speaking of awareness - those within Labour now calling for unity after five years of wrecking, “I’ll stab him in the front” and deliberately throwing an election (2017 fund diversion) possess a GLARING lack of it. What about 2019 when he really got the chance to show the working class who was boss? Brexit Referendum Re-run wasn’t it 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Aug 16, 2020 22:17:57 GMT
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Post by 1paulcarden on Aug 16, 2020 22:17:57 GMT
What about 2019 when he really got the chance to show the working class who was boss? Brexit Referendum Re-run wasn’t it 🤷🏻♂️ Yep. Delivered exactly what him and Seamus wanted and screwed the working class at the same time. What a guy. |
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Aug 16, 2020 22:29:16 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 16, 2020 22:29:16 GMT
Brexit Referendum Re-run wasn’t it 🤷🏻♂️ Yep. Delivered exactly what him and Seamus wanted and screwed the working class at the same time. What a guy. Sorry are we talking about Starmer now? |
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Aug 19, 2020 10:47:52 GMT
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Post by 1paulcarden on Aug 19, 2020 10:47:52 GMT
Yep. Delivered exactly what him and Seamus wanted and screwed the working class at the same time. What a guy. Sorry are we talking about Starmer now? You know we’re not. ‘Wholesale EU immigration has destroyed conditions for British workers" The ramblings of Telford’s (9 bedroom house in Shopshire) finest Jeremy Bernard Corbyn. |
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Aug 19, 2020 11:23:05 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 19, 2020 11:23:05 GMT
Sorry are we talking about Starmer now? You know we’re not. ‘Wholesale EU immigration has destroyed conditions for British workers" The ramblings of Telford’s (9 bedroom house in Shopshire) finest Jeremy Bernard Corbyn. You got a link for that quote? Hope the hard Remainer Knight of the Realm, London barrister can entice all those working class Leave voters that abandoned him at the last GE 👍🏻 |
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Aug 20, 2020 8:36:25 GMT
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Post by 1paulcarden on Aug 20, 2020 8:36:25 GMT
Oh darn.
Preference for Prime Minister:
Keir Starmer: 35% (+3)
Boris Johnson: 31% (-1)
via @yougov, 18 - 19 Aug
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Aug 20, 2020 9:09:41 GMT
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Post by 1paulcarden on Aug 20, 2020 9:09:41 GMT
Oh blast.
Westminster voting intention:
CON: 40% (-4)
LAB: 38% (+3)
LDEM: 6% (+1)
GRN: 6% (+1)
BREX: 4% (+1)
via @yougov, 18 - 19 Aug
Chgs. w/ 12 Aug
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Aug 20, 2020 9:53:05 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 20, 2020 9:53:05 GMT
Oh blast. Westminster voting intention: CON: 40% (-4) LAB: 38% (+3) LDEM: 6% (+1) GRN: 6% (+1) BREX: 4% (+1) via @yougov, 18 - 19 Aug Chgs. w/ 12 Aug 2 points behind the worst government in living memory. The plotters, wreckers and fraudsters in Labour told us he’d be 20 points ahead. |
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Aug 20, 2020 11:03:25 GMT
Post by Ian H Block on Aug 20, 2020 11:03:25 GMT
I see a firm linked with Michael Gove and Dominic Cummings was appointed (without a tender process) to ‘assist’ Ofqual with its A Level results strategy. Link is here and anybody reading it can only conclude that this Government is monumentally corrupt and shit beyond measure. Quite a combination to have in these challenging times. |
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Aug 20, 2020 14:52:48 GMT
Post by paulie on Aug 20, 2020 14:52:48 GMT
Oh blast. Westminster voting intention: CON: 40% (-4) LAB: 38% (+3) LDEM: 6% (+1) GRN: 6% (+1) BREX: 4% (+1) via @yougov, 18 - 19 Aug Chgs. w/ 12 Aug 2 points behind the worst government in living memory. The plotters, wreckers and fraudsters in Labour told us he’d be 20 points ahead. Imagine losing by 80 seats to the worst government in living memory. JC, what a guy! |
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Aug 20, 2020 14:55:49 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 20, 2020 14:55:49 GMT
2 points behind the worst government in living memory. The plotters, wreckers and fraudsters in Labour told us he’d be 20 points ahead. Imagine losing by 80 seats to the worst government in living memory. JC, what a guy! Was a Brexit referendum re-run. The policies remain still very popular. |
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Aug 21, 2020 8:08:42 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Aug 21, 2020 8:08:42 GMT
Imagine losing by 80 seats to the worst government in living memory. JC, what a guy! Was a Brexit referendum re-run. The policies remain still very popular. I’m glad that JC and Momentum took back control of the alleged plotters who did damage limitation and clawed back some seats in 2017 to lose 60 seats and hand the Tories a landslide even after their Brexit shit show. Polls showed that at the time people didn’t trust Boris on Brexit even, they just thought Corbyn was even worse. Also worth noting that whilst two points behind now, from a 20 point lead for the Tories when Corbyn left, Starmer is ahead of Johnson on best PM. Corbyn never led on best PM. The public have maintained that the party is toxic even when the leader isn’t, but even that has seen some turnaround since Keir got in. Net unfavourability of Labour in May last year - 46%! We are now even with the Tories in which party would be a more competent government. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 21, 2020 8:59:10 GMT
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Aug 21, 2020 9:09:35 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Aug 21, 2020 9:09:35 GMT
I like how that’s the one thing you can criticise in that post. Give it up Mancot 😂 |
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Aug 21, 2020 9:15:37 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 21, 2020 9:15:37 GMT
I like how that’s the one thing you can criticise in that post. Give it up Mancot 😂 How is the Hard Remainer and Knight of the Realm who doesn’t seem to have any opinions apart from “we support the government” until the focus groups tell him what to think going to win back the working class Leave voters that abandoned the Party in their record-breaking droves (52 of the 54 lost seats were Leave voting seats) in 2019? |
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Aug 21, 2020 9:17:50 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Aug 21, 2020 9:17:50 GMT
I like how that’s the one thing you can criticise in that post. Give it up Mancot 😂 How is the Hard Remainer and Knight of the Realm who doesn’t seem to have any opinions apart from “we support the government” until the focus groups tell him what to think going to win back the working class Leave voters that abandoned the Party in their record-breaking droves (52 of the 54 lost seats were Leave voting seats) in 2019? Because Brexit is done, it’s over. Not on the mainstream political agenda any more. What he’s doing so far appears to be working, and polling in former Red Wall seats shows Tory support going down and Labour support going up. Labour will win the most seats in 2024 if things carry on as they are, though you don’t seem to want that to happen. |
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Aug 21, 2020 9:19:38 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 21, 2020 9:19:38 GMT
How is the Hard Remainer and Knight of the Realm who doesn’t seem to have any opinions apart from “we support the government” until the focus groups tell him what to think going to win back the working class Leave voters that abandoned the Party in their record-breaking droves (52 of the 54 lost seats were Leave voting seats) in 2019? Because Brexit is done, it’s over. Not on the mainstream political agenda any more. What he’s doing so far appears to be working, and polling in former Red Wall seats shows Tory support going down and Labour support going up. Labour will win the most seats in 2024 if things carry on as they are, though you don’t seem to want that to happen. Purely because, as a working class person who works in the NHS and registered disabled, this Labour wont make a difference to my life unless they maintain the massively popular policies of 2017 and 2019. So far I don’t really know what Starmer stands for apart from “we support the government on this.” I mean, he went against teachers, their unions and parents in an attempt to force kids back to their death trap schools a couple of months ago for starters, sacking an MP over it. |
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Aug 21, 2020 14:15:50 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Aug 21, 2020 14:15:50 GMT
I think it's more a change in public sentiment than much to do with Starmer over Corbyn. People have finally twigged that matters like healthcare, poverty, education, housing and racial equality are more important than whether we have a red or blue passport. If Corbyn was still Labour leader I think he'd be doing just as well as Starmer is, if not better. All ifs and buts though. I don't like Starmer much but I'd take him over any Tory PM instantly.
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Aug 25, 2020 9:26:11 GMT
Post by Lobster on Aug 25, 2020 9:26:11 GMT
I'm also not sure Starmer implying that he'd be happy for the Sun to endorse him is a wise move either, given that Merseyside is now just about the only stronghold Labour has.
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Aug 25, 2020 9:34:29 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 25, 2020 9:34:29 GMT
I'm also not sure Starmer implying that he'd be happy for the Sun to endorse him is a wise move either, given that Merseyside is now just about the only stronghold Labour has. He opened his Labour leadership with a piece behind a Murdoch paywall so it doesn’t surprise me. |
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Aug 29, 2020 18:59:32 GMT
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Post by 1paulcarden on Aug 29, 2020 18:59:32 GMT
Westminster voting intention:
CON: 40% (-2)
LAB: 40% (+1)
LDEM: 6% (+1)
via @opiniumresearch
Overturned a 24 point deficit in 4 months. Get rid.
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Aug 29, 2020 23:31:46 GMT
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Post by 1paulcarden on Aug 29, 2020 23:31:46 GMT
Worth a read for those who actually want a better future. Impressive stuff but early days. Really has done an impressive job clearing out the detritus that was Corbyn’s Labour. Hopefully long may it continue. t.co/4I3yXygQwS |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Aug 29, 2020 23:47:33 GMT
Worth a read for those who actually want a better future. Impressive stuff but early days. Really has done an impressive job clearing out the detritus that was Corbyn’s Labour. Hopefully long may it continue. t.co/4I3yXygQwSRent free, still. You really do love to see it. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Aug 30, 2020 8:33:06 GMT
Worth a read for those who actually want a better future. Impressive stuff but early days. Really has done an impressive job clearing out the detritus that was Corbyn’s Labour. Hopefully long may it continue. t.co/4I3yXygQwSI remember when Corbyn’s Labour were polling in the mid-40s for about about a year and at one stage had an 8% lead over the Tories. So can’t really see what point you are trying to make. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 30, 2020 11:26:41 GMT
Recent history suggests these polls are all but useless. The actual results are always further to the right than predicted. Voting Tory is like masturbation - people don't admit to it, but if you put them in a booth with nobody watching...
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Sept 23, 2020 16:05:31 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 23, 2020 16:05:31 GMT
Looks like Kent is now staying in the EU. and truckers will now need some form of visa to enter the county. Brexshit is brilliant isn’t it? Can’t wait for the food shortages.
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Sept 24, 2020 10:41:25 GMT
Post by Lobster on Sept 24, 2020 10:41:25 GMT
Looks like Kent is now staying in the EU. and truckers will now need some form of visa to enter the county. Brexshit is brilliant isn’t it? Can’t wait for the food shortages. The thing I find incredible is how little thought seems to have been given to matters like this.
So you want us to leave the UK? OK, so what does that entail? What effect would that have on trade, borders, Ireland, law and everything else, and what measures should be put in place to protect them? It just seems like not so much as a shred of research was done on any of this. Instead, it was just fobbed off on the public to say yes or no to, and even four years on, we're still winging it.
I still think Brexit was more about a jostle for power between the central and the hard-right elements of the Conservative Party than anything else, and Labour's version of that is the anti-Semitism row.
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Sept 26, 2020 21:00:16 GMT
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Post by 1paulcarden on Sept 26, 2020 21:00:16 GMT
Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 42% (+3)
CON: 39% (-3)
via @opiniumresearch
Chgs. w/ 11 Sep
I know he should be 79% ahead but that’s quite a turnaround. Nice to have someone with political nous about for the first time in years.
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