BREXIT

nice try.not biting .

I think making up daft generalisations about anyone who disagrees with them is how the gang on here rationalise being in the political wilderness.

Rather be in the political wilderness than support a Government that uses poverty and hunger as a weapon against the most vulnerable in society. As for the ‘gang’ comment, grow up mate, we’re not school children.

Nobody wants kids to starve, of course they don't!

But please tell me, flooding the off topic section of a chester fans forum... whats that going to achieve? Other than be a complete waste of yours and everyone else's time

In 1956 Fidel Castro had just 19 rebels alongside him in the Sierra Maestra mountains in Cuba and three years later managed to overthrow the far-right, CIA backed Batista Government. Size isn’t everything as I’m sure Mrs Oaks Blue likes to remind you.

Only 3 months until the dream of Brexit gets crushed by economic realitg. Cant wait. No compremise with the EU. A no deal Brexit all the way Covid plus Brexit should destroy the economy and take the Tories down with it One is a natural disaster and the other entirely self inflicted.

No deal brexit all the way, really ?, Barnier is staying on in the uk this week trying to thrash out a deal
I work in the motor trade for a large EU car manufacturer, here is some economic reality for you
Car registrations for THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER 2020 for selected EU manufacturers, 
AUDI 21,893
BMW 21,255
MERCEDES 23,522
PEUGEOT 10, 513
RENAULT 10,454
VW 27,328
Thats over 100,00 cars imported into the UK in just one month from just 6 manufacturers in the EU
Do you seriously think that the likes of BMW and VW will allow a no deal brexit to affect that level of business and financial turnover ?
Do you think the supermarket giants will accept a restriction on the flow of goods from the EU to affect their business ?
Will French fishermen be willing to accept that they will no longer be allowed access to UK waters and fish stocks ?
The uk was given a referendum on leaving or staying in the EU
We chose to leave
We had a general election, the conservatives had a "get Brexit done" message, they won that democratic election by a 80 seat majority
We are leaving the EU, things will be different, but that is all it will be, different, get over it and make the best of it , I know I will

The fact that it was the country voted for it doesn't mean it's not worth debating or opposing. Hitler was democratically elected as well.

The Tories are doing their best to bring the U.K. to its knees and Brexshit will just about finish the job. Goodness knows what kind of Government we’ll elect in the aftermath of such failures of statecraft.

I will agree the "we voted for it, get over it" quote is not the right strategy but to keep on harping on about how "wrong Brexit is" is also pointless, yes everyone is entitled to their views but the fact is right or wrong we are leaving Europe and our politicians need to get the best deal for us. I dont believe we will end up with a no deal brexit because as Mean Machine says there are European Industries that will be hard hit by a no deal and will be pushing their relevant governments to ensure a deal is struck. The debate needs to move onto what is best for the UK and how best we can achieve this

We all know the current government are actually aiming for No Deal right? Will massively improve their continued money laundering operation.

I think what this debate often misunderstands is how our government views these apparent 'key industries' and what position they are afforded in their hierarchy. Whilst the automotive and aerospace industries are probably deemed as relatively important, in the eyes of our government they pale into insignificance in comparison to the financial services industry. And that, I think, is particularly important when trying to understand this seeming desire for a no-deal Brexit from large chunks of the government.

A no-deal Brexit may well see industries such as aerospace and car manufacturers leave for Europe but it will also allow them to massively deregulate our financial services and tax regulations in order to further develop this sizeable chunk of the economy which is predominantly based out of London. I know it isn't particularly in vogue to praise Jeremy Corbyn on here, but he and his advisors were almost certainly correct in their calculations that the gameplan here is to turn the UK into a sort of Singapore-on-seas on the edge of Europe - attracting business and multinational corporations here with exceptionally low corporation and business taxation. 

And if some car manufacturers and Airbus decide to leave? Well, so be it - is what I suspect their reaction will be. A no-deal Brexit provides them with their very best shot at creating their fundamentalist free-market wet dream of an economy and I doubt they are going to let such an opportunity pass. Now will that create some jobs? Probably, but they will all be in London. And will it create prosperity? Possibly, but if so it will be restricted to London and the businesses / rich who own the companies benefiting from the deregulated tax system. It will only serve to put rocket fuel into the engine of rampant inequality we already see in this country. 

I suspect those vast swathes of the North who voted Brexit and then Tory will see little to none of the benefits of such an economy - in fact it is in these places that many of the industries which are likely to leave are based. And the governments plan for that? I suspect we will continue to see them stoking culture wars on issues such as Black Lives Matter and trans-rights, probably alongside a continued campaign of immigrant bashing, in order to divide and conquer. 

Surprised not of the Tory Boys have been on to tell us the good news about soy sauce.