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Dec 13, 2020 14:41:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 14:41:10 GMT
Not quite sure if you want a deal or not. 0
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Dec 13, 2020 14:52:28 GMT
Post by Lobster on Dec 13, 2020 14:52:28 GMT
Not quite sure if you want a deal or not. 0 I didn't want Brexit at all, but seeing as we've voted for it and it must happen, I expect the government to agree a satisfactory deal and make a success of it, and I will not accept any excuse for them failing to do so, and neither should you.
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Dec 13, 2020 14:57:12 GMT
Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 13, 2020 14:57:12 GMT
Not quite sure if you want a deal or not. 0 I didn't want Brexit at all, but seeing as we've voted for it and it must happen, I expect the government to agree a satisfactory deal and make a success of it, and I will not accept any excuse for them failing to do so, and neither should you. So are you saying we accept any deal from the EU even if that deal is detrimental to the UK. I agree a deal is far better than no deal but not if that deal is more detrimental to the UK
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 13, 2020 15:07:59 GMT
I didn't want Brexit at all, but seeing as we've voted for it and it must happen, I expect the government to agree a satisfactory deal and make a success of it, and I will not accept any excuse for them failing to do so, and neither should you. So are you saying we accept any deal from the EU even if that deal is detrimental to the UK. I agree a deal is far better than no deal but not if that deal is more detrimental to the UK It’s obvious that the Tories have negotiated in bad faith and no deal was always their preferred option. After all there is no such thing as a free lunch with the disaster capitalists who bankroll the Conservative Party.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 13, 2020 15:15:05 GMT
I didn't want Brexit at all, but seeing as we've voted for it and it must happen, I expect the government to agree a satisfactory deal and make a success of it, and I will not accept any excuse for them failing to do so, and neither should you. So are you saying we accept any deal from the EU even if that deal is detrimental to the UK. I agree a deal is far better than no deal but not if that deal is more detrimental to the UK Any deal will be detrimental to the UK, that's the nature of Brexit. Kind of what we've been trying to explain for the last five years.
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Dec 13, 2020 15:21:20 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 13, 2020 15:21:20 GMT
So are you saying we accept any deal from the EU even if that deal is detrimental to the UK. I agree a deal is far better than no deal but not if that deal is more detrimental to the UK It’s obvious that the Tories have negotiated in bad faith and no deal was always their preferred option. After all there is no such thing as a free lunch with the disaster capitalists who bankroll the Conservative Party. At least eight billion.
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Dec 13, 2020 16:04:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 16:04:02 GMT
What bad faith have they negotiated with. All. we voted for was out.i know they seem pretty desperate to hang on to us otherwise they would not even have negotiated.
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 13, 2020 16:49:54 GMT
What bad faith have they negotiated with. All. we voted for was out.i know they seem pretty desperate to hang on to us otherwise they would not even have negotiated. I think they are quietly glad to be shut of us and who can blame them. Considering it was the ‘easiest negotiation in the world’ the Tories haven’t half made a mess of it. Four years ago they were telling us there was no way we would be leaving the single market or customs union, 12 months ago we had an ‘oven ready’ Brexshit deal, six months ago a no-deal Brexshit was a ‘million to one’ chance, yet here we are. Nobody is that incompetent surely, so it’s a reasonable assumption that this outcome was what they were planning all along. It would have been nice if they would have told the rest of us because as someone who sits on a regional resilience / emergency planning board the next few months are going to be really bad. The briefings we get from Cabinet Office, whilst lacking an awful lot of detail, get grimmer by the day. Also reading between the lines it’s clear that the Tories are lining up the Civil Service, Local Government, Police, even the Army (all hollowed out after 10 years of Tory Austerity) to carry the blame for the inevitable disaster. They also appear worried about public disorder post-Brexshit, so expect food and medicine shortages. Any other country people would have already taken to the streets but as upsidedown has demonstrated, a lot of people are only too willing to believe Tory bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 8:44:16 GMT
So you get information from the government which by your own admission does not contain much information, then you read between the lines and as there is never anything between the lines you invent a version to suit your own narrative. The mind boggles.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 14, 2020 10:38:31 GMT
So you get information from the government which by your own admission does not contain much information, then you read between the lines and as there is never anything between the lines you invent a version to suit your own narrative. The mind boggles. All he's doing is trying to hold the government to their own word. They've made out this whole process is a doddle and will be better for the country. Why are we less than three weeks away from the deadline with a deal yet to be agreed and looking very unlikely? You should be more angry with the PM and the government than we are as they've misled you. At least we didn't believe him in the first place!
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Dec 14, 2020 11:10:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 11:10:00 GMT
All he's doing is trying to hold the government to their one word. They've made out this whole process is a doddle and will be better for the country. Why are less that three weeks away from the deadline with a deal yet to be agreed and looking very unlikely? You should be more angry with the PM and the government than we are as they've misled you. At least we didn't believe him in the first place I am not angry because I always believed he wanted no deal
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Dec 14, 2020 11:25:38 GMT
Post by Lobster on Dec 14, 2020 11:25:38 GMT
I am not angry because I always believed he wanted no deal Why is he carrying on the charade of pretenting to want one then? Isn't that deceptive, and a waste of time and resources at a time when there are very important matters to deal with? Seems you agree with me that he's a liar. And a coward if he won't just admit he doesn't want a deal.
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Dec 14, 2020 12:27:37 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 14, 2020 12:27:37 GMT
How come when fish cross an imaginary line they become “our fish” but when people do the same they don’t become our people?
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Dec 14, 2020 12:50:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 12:50:47 GMT
How come when fish cross an imaginary line they become “our fish” but when people do the same they don’t become our people? does not actually work like that at the moment, in fact quite the reverse.
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Dec 14, 2020 15:21:24 GMT
Post by blaconboy on Dec 14, 2020 15:21:24 GMT
How come when fish cross an imaginary line they become “our fish” but when people do the same they don’t become our people? Because they're fish
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Dec 14, 2020 15:39:22 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 14, 2020 15:39:22 GMT
How come when fish cross an imaginary line they become “our fish” but when people do the same they don’t become our people? Because they're fish Where did those fish come from? Shouldn’t we send them back?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 14, 2020 20:04:58 GMT
Anyway, in all seriousness it’s a good job we’ve got such a strong Opposition who don’t abstain, take it to the government and aren’t two points behind in the po... oh wait.
Sir Keith is too busy agreeing with white supremacists on national radio.
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Dec 15, 2020 10:52:53 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 15, 2020 10:52:53 GMT
Just made enquiries for an Irish passport. If I get an Irish one. I ll send my UK one to Boris.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 15, 2020 11:09:11 GMT
Just made enquiries for an Irish passport. If I get an Irish one. I ll send my UK one to Boris. I looked into it through the granny rule. From what I understood, you have to apply for Irish citizenship first, which costs about £300, then there's the cost of the passport on top of that. Seems a bit of an expensive way to stick two fingers up at Brexit.
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Dec 15, 2020 11:27:19 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 15, 2020 11:27:19 GMT
Worth every penny I would say
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Dec 15, 2020 15:20:27 GMT
Post by paulie on Dec 15, 2020 15:20:27 GMT
Just made enquiries for an Irish passport. If I get an Irish one. I ll send my UK one to Boris. I looked into it through the granny rule. From what I understood, you have to apply for Irish citizenship first, which costs about £300, then there's the cost of the passport on top of that. Seems a bit of an expensive way to stick two fingers up at Brexit. Surely £400 is a small price to pay if your living in fear and having sleepless nights like a few on this thread seem to be.
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Dec 15, 2020 16:03:44 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Dec 15, 2020 16:03:44 GMT
I looked into it through the granny rule. From what I understood, you have to apply for Irish citizenship first, which costs about £300, then there's the cost of the passport on top of that. Seems a bit of an expensive way to stick two fingers up at Brexit. Surely £400 is a small price to pay if your living in fear and having sleepless nights like a few on this thread seem to be. Not if you haven't got it.
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Dec 15, 2020 16:39:40 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Dec 15, 2020 16:39:40 GMT
Just made enquiries for an Irish passport. If I get an Irish one. I ll send my UK one to Boris. Is that in addition to your UK one, or will you be giving that one up when you move to Ireland?
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Dec 15, 2020 17:51:32 GMT
Post by paulie on Dec 15, 2020 17:51:32 GMT
How come when fish cross an imaginary line they become “our fish” but when people do the same they don’t become our people? Because the fish won't take up a council house and claim benefits from our tax money
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Dec 15, 2020 18:06:15 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 15, 2020 18:06:15 GMT
How come when fish cross an imaginary line they become “our fish” but when people do the same they don’t become our people? Because the fish won't take up a council house and claim benefits from our tax money You forgot to mention “whilst also taking our jobs at the same time” - a refresher course on right-wing rags awaits you. Still, better to allow the posh boys and their mates to claim the benefits of our tax money isn’t it pal.
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Dec 15, 2020 18:28:36 GMT
Post by paulie on Dec 15, 2020 18:28:36 GMT
Because the fish won't take up a council house and claim benefits from our tax money You forgot to mention “whilst also taking our jobs at the same time” - a refresher course on right-wing rags awaits you. Still, better to allow the posh boys and their mates to claim the benefits of our tax money isn’t it pal. And free health care, clogging up doctors waiting rooms. You don't see the fish doing that.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 15, 2020 18:35:46 GMT
You forgot to mention “whilst also taking our jobs at the same time” - a refresher course on right-wing rags awaits you. Still, better to allow the posh boys and their mates to claim the benefits of our tax money isn’t it pal. And free health care, clogging up doctors waiting rooms. You don't see the fish doing that. The NHS would be screwed without immigrants. Anyway, even if you're right, why is the fish yours because you've found a use for it, but the person isn't?
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 15, 2020 19:39:41 GMT
You forgot to mention “whilst also taking our jobs at the same time” - a refresher course on right-wing rags awaits you. Still, better to allow the posh boys and their mates to claim the benefits of our tax money isn’t it pal. And free health care, clogging up doctors waiting rooms. You don't see the fish doing that. Now now Paulie you know your not allowed to have these thoughts
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Dec 15, 2020 19:56:04 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 15, 2020 19:56:04 GMT
And free health care, clogging up doctors waiting rooms. You don't see the fish doing that. Now now Paulie you know your not allowed to have these thoughts What, xenophobic ones? Thought that was obvious. Isn’t very moderate for a forum moderator to hold far right views is it? Are we on Stormfront?
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Dec 15, 2020 20:39:18 GMT
Post by Lobster on Dec 15, 2020 20:39:18 GMT
And free health care, clogging up doctors waiting rooms. You don't see the fish doing that. Now now Paulie you know your not allowed to have these thoughts Of course you're allowed to have them. You just shouldn't expect not to have them challenged.
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