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Post by paulie on Dec 22, 2020 5:38:05 GMT
Funny though, we have spent five years at war with each other, devalued the pound by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the worlds largest free-trade zone, created a mountain of red tape and flushed £200bn down the drain all to “control our borders” - whereas six EU member states did it in 24 hours with nothing more than a press release. For those wondering why those six member states have banned travel from the U.K. but the entire EU hasn’t... it’s because EU member states are sovereign and can make their own decisions and laws independently from each other. Oops.  |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 23, 2020 7:57:37 GMT
Farage and the Brexiteers going ape shit about the French exercising their democratic right and controlling their borders This is the logical conclusion of where Brexit leads. And the disruption looks like the new normal.
3 US papers leading on Chaos in the channel. From abroad we are looking like a ' Third World' country and a laughing stock. At least the US are exrcising their demons.
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Dec 23, 2020 8:24:26 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Dec 23, 2020 8:24:26 GMT
Farage and the Brexiteers going ape shit about the French exercising their democratic right and controlling their borders This is the logical conclusion of where Brexit leads. And the disruption looks like the new normal. 3 US papers leading on Chaos in the channel. From abroad we are looking like a ' Third World' country and a laughing stock. At least the US are exrcising their demons. The French will only be able to use the covid card for so long, won't be long until their hospitals are running short of medical supplies and other critical products they rely on the UK for, imo big businesses will ensure this bullshit border shutdown is only temporary. And then comes the pressure on them from the other EU member states. If it carries on, we will most likely bypass France and move goods via other important EU ports anyway |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 23, 2020 8:59:23 GMT
Farage and the Brexiteers going ape shit about the French exercising their democratic right and controlling their borders This is the logical conclusion of where Brexit leads. And the disruption looks like the new normal. 3 US papers leading on Chaos in the channel. From abroad we are looking like a ' Third World' country and a laughing stock. At least the US are exrcising their demons. The French will only be able to use the covid card for so long, won't be long until their hospitals are running short of medical supplies and other critical products they rely on the UK for, imo big businesses will ensure this bullshit border shutdown is only temporary. And then comes the pressure on them from the other EU member states. If it carries on, we will most likely bypass France and move goods via other important EU ports anyway The big difference is that the French can get their supplies from 26 other EU states , where we are solely reliant on the good will of other nations Taking back control? |
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Dec 23, 2020 9:10:16 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Dec 23, 2020 9:10:16 GMT
The French will only be able to use the covid card for so long, won't be long until their hospitals are running short of medical supplies and other critical products they rely on the UK for, imo big businesses will ensure this bullshit border shutdown is only temporary. And then comes the pressure on them from the other EU member states. If it carries on, we will most likely bypass France and move goods via other important EU ports anyway The big difference is that the French can get their supplies from 26 other EU states , where we are solely reliant on the good will of other nations Taking back control? For example, the UK is the 3rd largest supplier of medicinal products in the world. Behind USA and Switzerland. So no, we are not as reliant on them as they are on us for such a critically needed supply. There are other examples, but I'd have to research, only really know the inside story on medicinal products because I work for a company who makes them |
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Dec 23, 2020 10:00:05 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 23, 2020 10:00:05 GMT
Farage and the Brexiteers going ape shit about the French exercising their democratic right and controlling their borders This is the logical conclusion of where Brexit leads. And the disruption looks like the new normal. 3 US papers leading on Chaos in the channel. From abroad we are looking like a ' Third World' country and a laughing stock. At least the US are exrcising their demons. The French will only be able to use the covid card for so long, won't be long until their hospitals are running short of medical supplies and other critical products they rely on the UK for, imo big businesses will ensure this bullshit border shutdown is only temporary. And then comes the pressure on them from the other EU member states. If it carries on, we will most likely bypass France and move goods via other important EU ports anyway Don’t be forgetting the German car industry either. |
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Dec 23, 2020 10:07:23 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 23, 2020 10:07:23 GMT
Farage and the Brexiteers going ape shit about the French exercising their democratic right and controlling their borders This is the logical conclusion of where Brexit leads. And the disruption looks like the new normal. 3 US papers leading on Chaos in the channel. From abroad we are looking like a ' Third World' country and a laughing stock. At least the US are exrcising their demons. To be fair we aren’t far off third world given the Red Cross and UNICEF are feeding our kids. “Plague Island” they’re calling us. Embarrassing. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 11:28:33 GMT
Farage and the Brexiteers going ape shit about the French exercising their democratic right and controlling their borders This is the logical conclusion of where Brexit leads. And the disruption looks like the new normal. 3 US papers leading on Chaos in the channel. From abroad we are looking like a ' Third World' country and a laughing stock. At least the US are exrcising their demons. To be fair we aren’t far off third world given the Red Cross and UNICEF are feeding our kids. “Plague Island” they’re calling us. Embarrassing. methinks you generalise a little much. They may be feeding your kids, but nobody but me has ever fed my kids. Who are they that call us plague Island never seen it any where except from you. |
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Dec 23, 2020 11:35:47 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 23, 2020 11:35:47 GMT
“Plague Island” is all over the socials pal.
I obviously wasn’t referring to my own children in the above post, it was a collective description “our” - because, unlike you, I actually care about people who have been dealt a bad hand and are worse off than me. Suppose that is what separates us buddy.
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Dec 23, 2020 11:49:52 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Dec 23, 2020 11:49:52 GMT
To be fair we aren’t far off third world given the Red Cross and UNICEF are feeding our kids. “Plague Island” they’re calling us. Embarrassing. methinks you generalise a little much. They may be feeding your kids, but nobody but me has ever fed my kids . Who are they that call us plague Island never seen it any where except from you. That must've presented some challenges if they were breastfed! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 11:50:26 GMT
“Plague Island” is all over the socials pal. I obviously wasn’t referring to my own children in the above post, it was a collective description “our” - because, unlike you, I actually care about people who have been dealt a bad hand and are worse off than me. Suppose that is what separates us buddy. just a quick response why do you resort to pal as a put down. I know you care so do I and millions of others but I prioritise my own. Is that wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 11:52:44 GMT
methinks you generalise a little much. They may be feeding your kids, but nobody but me has ever fed my kids . Who are they that call us plague Island never seen it any where except from you. That must've presented some challenges if they were breastfed! that should be on the silly jokes thread. All mine fed on national dried milk as babies. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Dec 23, 2020 12:25:49 GMT
Don’t be forgetting the German car industry either. I couldnt care less about the car industry, and cant be bothered arguing with someone who thinks they know everything about brexit. Wow, are there any other industries that support families through employment and sustain our economy you couldn't care less about too? |
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Dec 23, 2020 12:57:56 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Dec 23, 2020 12:57:56 GMT
I couldnt care less about the car industry, and cant be bothered arguing with someone who thinks they know everything about brexit. Wow, are there any other industries that support families through employment and sustain our economy you couldn't care less about too? I meant to say I couldnt care less about the car industry jibe. Of course industry is important, any industry boosts the economy! |
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Post by Bob on Dec 23, 2020 16:14:57 GMT
Funny though, we have spent five years at war with each other, devalued the pound by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the worlds largest free-trade zone, created a mountain of red tape and flushed £200bn down the drain all to “control our borders” - whereas six EU member states did it in 24 hours with nothing more than a press release. For those wondering why those six member states have banned travel from the U.K. but the entire EU hasn’t... it’s because EU member states are sovereign and can make their own decisions and laws independently from each other. Oops. Why did posts disappear after this one? |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 23, 2020 19:19:17 GMT
Sounds like there could be a deal
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Dec 23, 2020 20:32:19 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 23, 2020 20:32:19 GMT
Sounds like there could be a deal Probably a really poor one that saves Boris's ass. |
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Dec 23, 2020 20:35:01 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 23, 2020 20:35:01 GMT
Sounds like there could be a deal Probably a really poor one that saves Boris's ass. Is that the guy who has always wanted a no deal |
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Dec 23, 2020 20:41:42 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 23, 2020 20:41:42 GMT
Probably a really poor one that saves Boris's ass. Is that the guy who has always wanted a no deal Or he has been playing to the European Research group and Farage and knows that a no deal tanks the UK economy. Personnally, I want Brexit taken to its logical no deal conclusion, so that it takes the Toriez down with it. |
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Post by Lobster on Dec 23, 2020 21:46:35 GMT
Deal or not, it's already failed really hasn't it? A week away from it being set in stone and we still have no idea what's going on. How are businesses meant to "get ready for Brexit" in the week between Christmas and New Year?
Brexit voters more than anyone should be furious at Boris Johnson. It's alright for me, I knew it was a bloody stupid idea and wouldn't work. If you actually believed in it, I don't get why you would be so passive about the whole thing.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:49:28 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Dec 23, 2020 21:49:28 GMT
Deal or not, it's already failed really hasn't it? A week away from it being set in stone and we still have no idea what's going on. How are businesses meant to "get ready for Brexit" in the week between Christmas and New Year? Brexit voters more than anyone should be furious at Boris Johnson. It's alright for me, I knew it was a bloody stupid idea and wouldn't work. If you actually believed in it, I don't get why you would be so passive about the whole thing. We all prepared for the worst (no deal) like any business that relies on government to make a deal would! |
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Dec 23, 2020 22:04:41 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Dec 23, 2020 22:04:41 GMT
Deal or not, it's already failed really hasn't it? A week away from it being set in stone and we still have no idea what's going on. How are businesses meant to "get ready for Brexit" in the week between Christmas and New Year? Brexit voters more than anyone should be furious at Boris Johnson. It's alright for me, I knew it was a bloody stupid idea and wouldn't work. If you actually believed in it, I don't get why you would be so passive about the whole thing. We all prepared for the worst (no deal) like any business that relies on government to make a deal would! If he's gone and got some miraculous deal, you've sold yourself short then. |
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Dec 23, 2020 22:18:36 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Dec 23, 2020 22:18:36 GMT
We all prepared for the worst (no deal) like any business that relies on government to make a deal would! If he's gone and got some miraculous deal, you've sold yourself short then. I've not sold myself anything, im not a tory, I just work for a global business at a fairly senior level so im not panicking like most on here! |
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Dec 24, 2020 9:33:55 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 24, 2020 9:33:55 GMT
Looks like 4 and a half years to negiotiate a substantially worse deal than the one we already had. Genius.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Dec 24, 2020 9:53:44 GMT
If he's gone and got some miraculous deal, you've sold yourself short then. I've not sold myself anything, im not a tory, I just work for a global business at a fairly senior level so im not panicking like most on here! ....and even with a global pandemic, stock markets on its knees and Brexit negotiations causing huge disruption to business you still find time to repeatedly post on a forum you think should be binned off. You are an asset to your company, how you keep making those Senior level decisions in your Global company i don't know. If i had a cap on i would doff it to you. |
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Dec 24, 2020 9:54:05 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Dec 24, 2020 9:54:05 GMT
Looks like 4 and a half years to negiotiate a substantially worse deal than the one we already had. Genius. I don't know whether it's incompetence or deliberate brinkmanship. Sections of the media will no doubt praising for pulling his last minute "Christmas miracle" deal out of the bag, but the illusion masks the reality that he has prolonged and worsened the situation. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 24, 2020 10:04:59 GMT
Democracy voted to leave the EU which we have done and it looks like we have a deal all the crying about losing will not change the decision democracy made its time to get behind the UK and make it work.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 10:14:16 GMT
I find it amazing that an off topic forum on deva chat gets so much information before the government release it,definitely my go to place to find out whats happening before the rest of the world knows about it.
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Dec 24, 2020 10:16:07 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 24, 2020 10:16:07 GMT
Democracy voted to leave the EU which we have done and it looks like we have a deal all the crying about losing will not change the decision democracy made its time to get behind the UK and make it work. 26.5% of the population voted to Leave the EU. Some democracy that. |
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Dec 24, 2020 10:18:27 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 24, 2020 10:18:27 GMT
“Plague Island” is all over the socials pal. I obviously wasn’t referring to my own children in the above post, it was a collective description “our” - because, unlike you, I actually care about people who have been dealt a bad hand and are worse off than me. Suppose that is what separates us buddy. just a quick response why do you resort to pal as a put down. I know you care so do I and millions of others but I prioritise my own. Is that wrong. Pal is a term of endearment, we are all friends here aren’t we? As for your other point, of course it’s not wrong to prioritise your immediately family (I presume that’s what you mean by “my own”) but you can still show empathy you know. Your posting history would suggest you lack that human trait, I could be wrong. |
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