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Sept 9, 2021 6:25:55 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 9, 2021 6:25:55 GMT
Couple of years from now (maybe less), voting Leave will be like wearing flared trousers or being a Jimmy Saville fan; people will not admit to it.
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Sept 12, 2021 13:23:05 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 12, 2021 13:23:05 GMT
Bet the Brexiters are FOAMING at our Emma’s historic US Open win.
Of course they’re not, the fascist Government, fascist Farage and the fascist Daily Mail are all crowing. Ironic.
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Sept 12, 2021 13:30:23 GMT
Bet the Brexiters are FOAMING at our Emma’s historic US Open win. Of course they’re not, the fascist Government, fascist Farage and the fascist Daily Mail are all crowing. Ironic. Complaining when people are racist and complaining when they’re not. Try and just be happy about something for a change, instead of always trying to stir the trouble that you’re decrying. |
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Sept 12, 2021 19:33:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 19:33:23 GMT
Bet the Brexiters are FOAMING at our Emma’s historic US Open win. Of course they’re not, the fascist Government, fascist Farage and the fascist Daily Mail are all crowing. Ironic. [br Fascist farage who has saved people in the English Channel from drowning Yes immigrants How many have you saved |
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Post by Lobster on Sept 12, 2021 19:53:30 GMT
Bet the Brexiters are FOAMING at our Emma’s historic US Open win. Of course they’re not, the fascist Government, fascist Farage and the fascist Daily Mail are all crowing. Ironic. [br Fascist farage who has saved people in the English Channel from drowning Yes immigrants How many have you saved A publicity stunt that only Breitbart and the Spectator seem to have taken as true. He also vilified the RNLI for saving immigrants which prompted a load of knuckleheads to heckle and throw stones at them, so that could just as easily have cost lives. I know it's miserable being from Wrexham but please don't fall for his shite. |
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Sept 12, 2021 20:04:02 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 12, 2021 20:04:02 GMT
They already have - a poverty-stricken working class town that voted Tory. Bootlegger and boot-lickers.
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Sept 12, 2021 20:20:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 20:20:25 GMT
[br Fascist farage who has saved people in the English Channel from drowning Yes immigrants How many have you saved A publicity stunt that only Breitbart and the Spectator seem to have taken as true. He also vilified the RNLI for saving immigrants which prompted a load of knuckleheads to heckle and throw stones at them, so that could just as easily have cost lives. I know it's miserable being from Wrexham but please don't fall for his shite. So you cannot answer my question How many have you saved ... Don't worry I know the answer |
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Post by Lobster on Sept 12, 2021 20:35:59 GMT
A publicity stunt that only Breitbart and the Spectator seem to have taken as true. He also vilified the RNLI for saving immigrants which prompted a load of knuckleheads to heckle and throw stones at them, so that could just as easily have cost lives. I know it's miserable being from Wrexham but please don't fall for his shite. So you cannot answer my question How many have you saved ... Don't worry I know the answer None, neither have you and neither has Farage. I haven't helped kill any either though. You seem like the kind of guy who would be arguing that Hitler looked after his dog. |
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Sept 15, 2021 10:50:07 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 15, 2021 10:50:07 GMT
Great to see the break-up of the dis-Union being sped up by the Westminster Government this week who have inadvertently extended the border between England and Wales by as much as 75 miles. From Nation Cymru |
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Sept 15, 2021 19:34:11 GMT
Post by everhopeful on Sept 15, 2021 19:34:11 GMT
Great to see the break-up of the dis-Union being sped up by the Westminster Government this week who have inadvertently extended the border between England and Wales by as much as 75 miles. From Nation CymruYou just couldn't make it up, could you??! |
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Post by arthuro on Sept 18, 2021 12:13:05 GMT
Bet the Brexiters are FOAMING at our Emma’s historic US Open win. Of course they’re not, the fascist Government, fascist Farage and the fascist Daily Mail are all crowing. Ironic. [br Fascist farage who has saved people in the English Channel from drowning Yes immigrants How many have you saved If you believe that about Farage then you are the sort of person who believes that two actors from the good ol USA are going to bring League football to Shitsville and care about the club with their BS and bravado. For your info Farage went round hotels housing the homeless and victims of war torn countries in Cheshire with henchmen intimidatiing them. Lovely bloke and no doubt he has your vote. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 20, 2021 12:07:21 GMT
Leaving the EU internal energy market looks an absolute zinger. Shall we file lower energy prices post-Brexshit as another Johnson lie.
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Sept 22, 2021 5:58:21 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 22, 2021 5:58:21 GMT
That promised US trade deal looks dead in the water. Pattern emerging here lads.
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Sept 22, 2021 8:15:18 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Sept 22, 2021 8:15:18 GMT
That promised US trade deal looks dead in the water. Pattern emerging here lads. Just seen that. Serves us right to be honest. |
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Sept 22, 2021 13:25:29 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 22, 2021 13:25:29 GMT
That promised US trade deal looks dead in the water. Pattern emerging here lads. Just seen that. Serves us right to be honest. I’d love to hear an honest assessment from some of the Vote Leave brigade on here. The whole thing appears to be unraveling at a frightening pace, so how do they explain it? Is it the policy of Brexit itself or the Tories’ delivery of it? Or is it the fault of Remoaners for not believing in Brexit enough? Genuinely interested to hear the views from the other side of the political divide. |
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Sept 22, 2021 14:41:40 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 22, 2021 14:41:40 GMT
They’ve been suspiciously quiet for the last few months…
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Sept 22, 2021 15:23:48 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 22, 2021 15:23:48 GMT
They’ve been suspiciously quiet for the last few months… Back to the future. A good dose of Stag/flation. (Inflation and a Stagnating economy) and our rightful place as 'the sickman of Europe'. Its all so 1972. |
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Sept 23, 2021 10:11:01 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 23, 2021 10:11:01 GMT
Tax rises
Food shortages
Increased gas bills
No trade deal
“We hold all the cards.”
What Johnson failed to mention was we’d be playing Solitaire with a deck full of Jokers.
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Sept 23, 2021 16:06:39 GMT
Post by everhopeful on Sept 23, 2021 16:06:39 GMT
Just read a report on Sky saying that within days, poultry, pork and bakery products are going to dry up. Tesco have reported that shortages before Christmas will be worse than when the pandemic first struck and BP are closing petrol stations because of a lack of drivers, not helped by the government refusing to allow EU drivers to work here!
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Post by Lobster on Sept 23, 2021 16:46:39 GMT
I've said it before but if you voted for this, you shouldn't be gloating that you "won" or even keeping quiet, you have been betrayed and should be absolutely furious. It's alright for me, I knew it would be shit.
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Sept 23, 2021 17:07:51 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 23, 2021 17:07:51 GMT
Just read a report on Sky saying that within days, poultry, pork and bakery products are going to dry up. Tesco have reported that shortages before Christmas will be worse than when the pandemic first struck and BP are closing petrol stations because of a lack of drivers, not helped by the government refusing to allow EU drivers to work here! TAkiNg bAcK ConTRoL |
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 23, 2021 17:10:45 GMT
I've said it before but if you voted for this, you shouldn't be gloating that you "won" or even keeping quiet, you have been betrayed and should be absolutely furious. It's alright for me, I knew it would be shit. The simple minded souls would sooner blame brown people in rubber dinghies than the posh boys they bow and scrape to. |
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Sept 23, 2021 20:20:02 GMT
Post by Lobster on Sept 23, 2021 20:20:02 GMT
Been round a couple of supermarkets today and the shelves do look depleted - not drastically so but enough to suggest a problem. Shops don't half-fill their shelves unless something's not right.
As I've alluded to a few times on this thread, it reminds me of being in Ireland just after the recession. A lot of gaps on the shelves and some crazy prices for packaged crap.
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 24, 2021 11:40:48 GMT
Just driven past a couple of petrol stations and there are definitely queues developing. I imagine it’s the same people who voted for this shit show who are now creating a problem that shouldn’t really exist. Stupid does as stupid is.
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Sept 24, 2021 12:01:03 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 24, 2021 12:01:03 GMT
Funniest thing about it all is the press and Brexiters generally refusing to even mention the B word which has caused ALL of the problems that everyone has been ranting about for the past fortnight.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 24, 2021 12:27:25 GMT
I think that's because everyone is still so tribal about the whole thing. Businesses certainly are reluctant to blame it as they risk upsetting half their customers - especially since many Brexiters are quite sensitive and easily annoyed.
The whole thing is toxic. I actually don't think leaving the EU needed to be a disaster if managed responsibly, but it's created societal problems as well as economic ones. All it's done is got ordinary people mad at each other over an issue they weren't that bothered about six oor seven years ago, and got working class people to vote Tory.
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Sept 24, 2021 12:39:59 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 24, 2021 12:39:59 GMT
I think that's because everyone is still so tribal about the whole thing. Businesses certainly are reluctant to blame it as they risk upsetting half their customers - especially since many Brexiters are quite sensitive and easily annoyed. The whole thing is toxic. I actually don't think leaving the EU needed to be a disaster if managed responsibly, but it's created societal problems as well as economic ones. All it's done is got ordinary people mad at each other over an issue they weren't that bothered about six oor seven years ago, and got working class people to vote Tory. Still waiting for a response from Leave voters. Are the problems we are experiencing a strategic one (Brexit was a bad idea) or is it tactical (the Tories’ delivery of it). Would love to know their thoughts, if they have any that is. |
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Sept 24, 2021 13:01:27 GMT
Post by luke90 on Sept 24, 2021 13:01:27 GMT
Just picking out the issues that Frank has posted above here - Tax Rises - We know why this was brought it, and i think everyone can agree it was well needed to actually provide more money for our NHS and care sector - not sure how this is Brexit related? Not having items of food on the shelves and the shortage of petrol is predominately down to the lack of HGV drivers. Slam dunk a Brexit issue, certainly made worse by the government and the apparent refusal to add the occupation to the shortage list - I can imagine a lot of people would be wanting to come over and get nearly £20 an hour! The whole thing on gas price rises isn't a Brexit issue IMO. This is a global thing and the EU is suffering too - I read this article this morning which does give an idea of the price across the board - www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58650634 From my understanding, the gas issue also is affecting the food supply with the CO2 business, though I have no idea if this would have been better if we were still in the EU? Trade Deals - This is the biggy, the whole, we can trade with anyone for free thing that I think a lot of people thought was a good idea, and it certainly is. The issue, is other countries aren't that interested in it - Slightly tricky to blame Brexit for as I certainly haven't felt any negative effects because we don't have a trade agreement, not sure if others have? The lack of HGV drivers is the massive issue right now and definitely down to Brexit - Apart from the lack of trade deals though, i'm not sure anything else can really be blamed on it, unless i'm just living a very sheltered life. |
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Sept 24, 2021 13:42:56 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 24, 2021 13:42:56 GMT
Just picking out the issues that Frank has posted above here - Tax Rises - We know why this was brought it, and i think everyone can agree it was well needed to actually provide more money for our NHS and care sector - not sure how this is Brexit related? Not having items of food on the shelves and the shortage of petrol is predominately down to the lack of HGV drivers. Slam dunk a Brexit issue, certainly made worse by the government and the apparent refusal to add the occupation to the shortage list - I can imagine a lot of people would be wanting to come over and get nearly £20 an hour! The whole thing on gas price rises isn't a Brexit issue IMO. This is a global thing and the EU is suffering too - I read this article this morning which does give an idea of the price across the board - www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58650634 From my understanding, the gas issue also is affecting the food supply with the CO2 business, though I have no idea if this would have been better if we were still in the EU? Trade Deals - This is the biggy, the whole, we can trade with anyone for free thing that I think a lot of people thought was a good idea, and it certainly is. The issue, is other countries aren't that interested in it - Slightly tricky to blame Brexit for as I certainly haven't felt any negative effects because we don't have a trade agreement, not sure if others have? The lack of HGV drivers is the massive issue right now and definitely down to Brexit - Apart from the lack of trade deals though, i'm not sure anything else can really be blamed on it, unless i'm just living a very sheltered life. Most EU countries have 90 days worth of gas stored which mitigates against price volatility. The U.K. has roughly 3 days as the Government adopted a ‘just in time’ approach. |
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Sept 24, 2021 13:59:50 GMT
Post by luke90 on Sept 24, 2021 13:59:50 GMT
Just picking out the issues that Frank has posted above here - Tax Rises - We know why this was brought it, and i think everyone can agree it was well needed to actually provide more money for our NHS and care sector - not sure how this is Brexit related? Not having items of food on the shelves and the shortage of petrol is predominately down to the lack of HGV drivers. Slam dunk a Brexit issue, certainly made worse by the government and the apparent refusal to add the occupation to the shortage list - I can imagine a lot of people would be wanting to come over and get nearly £20 an hour! The whole thing on gas price rises isn't a Brexit issue IMO. This is a global thing and the EU is suffering too - I read this article this morning which does give an idea of the price across the board - www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58650634 From my understanding, the gas issue also is affecting the food supply with the CO2 business, though I have no idea if this would have been better if we were still in the EU? Trade Deals - This is the biggy, the whole, we can trade with anyone for free thing that I think a lot of people thought was a good idea, and it certainly is. The issue, is other countries aren't that interested in it - Slightly tricky to blame Brexit for as I certainly haven't felt any negative effects because we don't have a trade agreement, not sure if others have? The lack of HGV drivers is the massive issue right now and definitely down to Brexit - Apart from the lack of trade deals though, i'm not sure anything else can really be blamed on it, unless i'm just living a very sheltered life. Most EU countries have 90 days worth of gas stored which mitigates against price volatility. The U.K. has roughly 3 days as the Government adopted a ‘just in time’ approach. I did see that, but then the prices in Poland, Spain & Italy are all being reported as climbing in price as quickly as ours We have this new underground line opening October 1st from Norway, so hopefully only a temporary thing. |
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