BREXIT

Literally not, but go off I guess.

This thread is becoming a bit of a toilet. There has been some good discussion on it, but if it's just going to turn into "he's a c**t", "he's a bellend" it will soon be locked.

This Labour being “proud” of war criminal Tony Blair’s endorsement tells you all you need to know.

Haven’t been a member for two years.

Good night for progressive politics with the rise of the Greens and the Liberal Democrats.

Shockers for the two main parties, Starmer’s mob especially have effed it big time.

Interesting to hear you refer to the Fib Dems as “progressive” but Labour as a “mob” who made gains from an already high mark, and recovered ground in areas where the Supreme Leader lost in 2019.

Outside of London Labour have been outdone by the two aforementioned parties. Obviously the Tories have collapsed at a local level but the seats have transferred to the Greens and Lib Dems, most likely because U.K. Labour don’t really stand for anything other than attacking their own support of the last six years - and are a weak opposition to the Tories in Westminster.

They’ve gone backwards from the previous leader’s 2018 results, have lost councils they’ve held for over ten years. London alone does not equate to a general election success.

Contrast that to the situation in Wales where Welsh Labour have made the largest increase in councillor numbers - perhaps Evans and Starmer should seek advice from the socialist leader in Cardiff Bay rather than punching left and losing their support in England.

Gaining Mayfair but losing Hull tells you all you need to know about what Starmer’s Labour is all about.

Forgot to add to my post above that the gains Labour have made are mostly in socialist-run Wales. Even the results in London are not the gold star they look - gained three councils, lost three councils.

Could literally be any of them and nobody would be surprised.

I thought that was the rapist Tory MP? This is a new one.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61720276

An incredibly sensible EU proposal that we've chosen to ignore.

Apple and other companies have been taking the piss for years by making their chargers and cables only work for their own devices, and often not even across their own range. All these bloody things do is connect one device to another. Absolute crap to argue that a common charger "stifles innovation". All it stifles is the amount of money they can make and the environmental output of these unnecessarily pieces of pointless plastic and electronics.

I've always said Brexit doesn't necessarily have to be a disaster, but why are we only embracing the shittest aspects of it?

Don't Know would do a good job I think.

Just received a new passport. Got to say for all they've banged on about it, they haven't done a very good job of making it blue. Looks black to me.

Sums up Brexit really, nothing works or makes any sense. Not that I care what colour the thing is.

Hi peeps

interesting debate on French TV tonight about the effects of Brexit on the French economy, and the one million or so French citizens living and working in the London area (they have their own representative in French government)

Some of the main points I took from it are to do with healthcare and the comparisons made to French healthcare and the NHS, with president Macron ensuring the public that he would never claim to be pumping 15 billion euros of extra money into something after having spent 10 years underfunding the same scheme to the tune of hundreds of billions and championing how great that “sticking plaster”was.

France did consider what impact a leave vote would mean, and had lots in place to combat any impact, whilst, from what I can see there was no UK exit strategy.These trade agreements with new partners around the world are not the magic bullets promised.

The majority of questions asked got simple yes, no, or I don’t have enough information to answer in depth replies, as opposed to long diatribes and deflection of the question at all costs to avoid actually giving any
sort of coherent reply.

My neighbours often ask if I’m still proud to be British, well yes, but even prouder to be a European citizen.

I cringe every time I catch Johnson and his cronies on TV, you couldn’t get any further away from him being a statesman, and certainly here has made the UK the laughing stock of Europe. How on earth can a multi millionaire like Sunak possibly claim to have empathy with families falling into fuel poverty, laughable.

it’s a long way back in history when it was Empire, but the Empire mentality is still prevalent and doing untold damage to the British economy, the people and its reputation around the world.

Are there any calls to actually have a referendum to rejoin Europe? Or are they all to bloody-minded to consider it?