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Mar 21, 2019 3:59:56 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Mar 21, 2019 3:59:56 GMT
Are people actually still publicly backing Brexit and suggesting it's the best for this country? Yes Lets test that assumption with a public vote ? But as we know the Brexshitters are shit scared of that |
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Mar 21, 2019 5:11:32 GMT
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Post by cheshireblue on Mar 21, 2019 5:11:32 GMT
Are people actually still publicly backing Brexit and suggesting it's the best for this country? Yes Why? |
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Mar 21, 2019 6:07:49 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Mar 21, 2019 6:07:49 GMT
Best of luck getting an answer from him to that question. It’s something about blue passports, bendy bananas and a shiny 50p coin. Oh, that and few less foreign voices down the Asda. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Mar 21, 2019 7:27:09 GMT
Neither our PM or our leader of the opposition covered themselves in glory tonight. Firstly Corbyn walks out of the type of cross party meeting he himself has been calling for seemingly due to the presence of the independents. He's never going to be a statesman is he. Then, May turns up 20 minutes late to deliver an uninspiring statement that appears to blame everyone but herself for the fiasco at Westminster. Yes Theresa we are tired, tired of you. Genuinely can't think of a time when modern Britain has had a Tory and Labour leader who are both so totally unsuitable for office. Been a Labour supporter all my life and had genuine optimism that JC would make a difference. By refusing to be in the same room as someone whose opinion differs from your own is childish if it was you an i, as leader of the opposition, its downright unprofessional. How on earth would he deal with the rest of the EU, Trump and co if he was ever elected. |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Mar 21, 2019 7:41:02 GMT
Neither our PM or our leader of the opposition covered themselves in glory tonight. Firstly Corbyn walks out of the type of cross party meeting he himself has been calling for seemingly due to the presence of the independents. He's never going to be a statesman is he. Then, May turns up 20 minutes late to deliver an uninspiring statement that appears to blame everyone but herself for the fiasco at Westminster. Yes Theresa we are tired, tired of you. Genuinely can't think of a time when modern Britain has had a Tory and Labour leader who are both so totally unsuitable for office. Been a Labour supporter all my life and had genuine optimism that JC would make a difference. By refusing to be in the same room as someone whose opinion differs from your own is childish if it was you an i, as leader of the opposition, its downright unprofessional. How on earth would he deal with the rest of the EU, Trump and co if he was ever elected. As I've said before, I do think the public largely sees Corbyn as unelectable. It's got nothing to do with the media as some will pretend, it's totally down to him. What really annoys me is that his percieved lack leadership credibility is partly why May's limitless incompetence has largely gone unchallenged. We'll all be worse off as a result. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 21, 2019 7:54:24 GMT
Neither our PM or our leader of the opposition covered themselves in glory tonight. Firstly Corbyn walks out of the type of cross party meeting he himself has been calling for seemingly due to the presence of the independents. He's never going to be a statesman is he. Then, May turns up 20 minutes late to deliver an uninspiring statement that appears to blame everyone but herself for the fiasco at Westminster. Yes Theresa we are tired, tired of you. Genuinely can't think of a time when modern Britain has had a Tory and Labour leader who are both so totally unsuitable for office. Been a Labour supporter all my life and had genuine optimism that JC would make a difference. By refusing to be in the same room as someone whose opinion differs from your own is childish if it was you an i, as leader of the opposition, its downright unprofessional. How on earth would he deal with the rest of the EU, Trump and co if he was ever elected. Rubbish. Why was Umunna, a spokesman for what amounts to a PLC, at a meeting for party leaders? As it transpired the whole meeting was a waste of time. A sham, vacuous piece of virtue signalling from a disastrous PM. |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Mar 21, 2019 7:54:29 GMT
To be honest the chances of her listening to the opposition parties are zero. As Caroline Lucas said when she came out. It was another attempt to talk then into supporting her piss poor deal And from the statements this morning, by blaming the MPs for this mess. Amazing she has actually lost support, which in all honesty takes some doing. She is so delusional she should be placed firmly under lock and key.
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Mar 21, 2019 8:14:18 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Mar 21, 2019 8:14:18 GMT
May’s speech last night was nothing short of disgraceful and if one of these crazed right-wing Brexshithouses attacks another MP she will have blood on her hands.
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Mar 21, 2019 8:52:08 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Mar 21, 2019 8:52:08 GMT
May’s speech last night was nothing short of disgraceful and if one of these crazed right-wing Brexshithouses attacks another MP she will have blood on her hands. Man, you’ve got it bad. Listen to yourself “blood on her hands”. You’re losing the plot. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Mar 21, 2019 9:09:05 GMT
Been a Labour supporter all my life and had genuine optimism that JC would make a difference. By refusing to be in the same room as someone whose opinion differs from your own is childish if it was you an i, as leader of the opposition, its downright unprofessional. How on earth would he deal with the rest of the EU, Trump and co if he was ever elected. Rubbish. Why was Umunna, a spokesman for what amounts to a PLC, at a meeting for party leaders? As it transpired the whole meeting was a waste of time. A sham, vacuous piece of virtue signalling from a disastrous PM. It doesn't matter who is in the room, unless of course its completely irrelevant or abhorrent, by stating the fact he will not enter into dialogue or discussions with someone he has differences with has played straight into the right wing medias hands. Its the right wing media that influence the vast majority of voters in this country, its a huge mistake, mark my words. |
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Mar 21, 2019 9:11:15 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Mar 21, 2019 9:11:15 GMT
I see Ford are going to cut 5,000 jobs in Germany. I wonder how that’ll be blamed on our decision to leave the EU?
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Mar 21, 2019 9:16:28 GMT
Post by Al on Mar 21, 2019 9:16:28 GMT
Rubbish. Why was Umunna, a spokesman for what amounts to a PLC, at a meeting for party leaders? As it transpired the whole meeting was a waste of time. A sham, vacuous piece of virtue signalling from a disastrous PM. It doesn't matter who is in the room, unless of course its completely irrelevant or abhorrent, by stating the fact he will not enter into dialogue or discussions with someone he has differences with has played straight into the right wing medias hands. Its the right wing media that influence the vast majority of voters in this country, its a huge mistake, mark my words. If the woman isn't willing to enter into serious talks to find a cross party concensus on the Withdrawl Agreement then he is quite right to get up and walk out.
As it stands, it was supposed to be a meeting between the PM and the Leader of the Opposition. I believe that their meeting has been rescheduled for tonight instead.
Anyway, let it not take the focus away from that ridiculous speech last night. Which was nothing short of disgraceful. Every day she finds new ways to sink lower in my estimations. To stand there, and basically trying to pin all the blame on them for her cocked up, piss poor excuse for a deal is ridiculous.
Worst PM in the history of Parliament.
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Mar 21, 2019 9:29:33 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Mar 21, 2019 9:29:33 GMT
May’s speech last night was nothing short of disgraceful and if one of these crazed right-wing Brexshithouses attacks another MP she will have blood on her hands. Man, you’ve got it bad. Listen to yourself “blood on her hands”. You’re losing the plot. Your mob has already slaughtered one MP and are in court for harassing another (both females, I wonder why), so for the PM to be pointing accusatory fingers at Her colleagues in the HoC is deeply irresponsible. |
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Mar 21, 2019 9:44:15 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Mar 21, 2019 9:44:15 GMT
Man, you’ve got it bad. Listen to yourself “blood on her hands”. You’re losing the plot. Your mob has already slaughtered one MP and are in court for harassing another (both females, I wonder why), so for the PM to be pointing accusatory fingers at Her colleagues in the HoC is deeply irresponsible. To be fair I don’t think ‘his mob’ is the likes of Britain First and the far-right. That’s a little harsh. |
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Mar 21, 2019 9:48:14 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Mar 21, 2019 9:48:14 GMT
Despite the insult he did ask for the source of your quoted information which you still haven't provided.. You miss my point. If I respond, he will insult me with impunity, I’ll react in defence and up will pop a warning or a ban. So no, I’ll make some points and then stand back because I want to remain on this site - DC2 keeps me up to date with team news, etc. I started posting on this thread just to provide a different view to the little self-congratulatory cabal that seems to have turned it into a left wing propaganda machine. I think all you’re seeing in this thread is some people who think in a similar way and agree on a lot of matters, as huge sections of the public do. We’ve had disagreements as well, as you’ll see if you look back through the thread. Personally I enjoy debate and like speaking to people I don’t agree with, so your presence in the thread is beneficial, but wish you would actually put arguments forward rather than just contradicting everything, usually with no more than a few words! |
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Mar 21, 2019 10:24:23 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Mar 21, 2019 10:24:23 GMT
You miss my point. If I respond, he will insult me with impunity, I’ll react in defence and up will pop a warning or a ban. So no, I’ll make some points and then stand back because I want to remain on this site - DC2 keeps me up to date with team news, etc. I started posting on this thread just to provide a different view to the little self-congratulatory cabal that seems to have turned it into a left wing propaganda machine. I think all you’re seeing in this thread is some people who think in a similar way and agree on a lot of matters, as huge sections of the public do. We’ve had disagreements as well, as you’ll see if you look back through the thread. Personally I enjoy debate and like speaking to people I don’t agree with, so your presence in the thread is beneficial, but wish you would actually put arguments forward rather than just contradicting everything, usually with no more than a few words! It intrigues me though that while we all seem to agree this is an awful Tory government, there are some who seem to regard good old JC as above all criticism - a position which nonsensical. In other words, there's always a righteous excuse for each of his many mistakes. I don't get that fanatical type of approach myself and I do think it hinders the debate at an important time. *edit - either that or they're having us on! |
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Post by Ian H Block on Mar 21, 2019 10:48:19 GMT
I think all you’re seeing in this thread is some people who think in a similar way and agree on a lot of matters, as huge sections of the public do. We’ve had disagreements as well, as you’ll see if you look back through the thread. Personally I enjoy debate and like speaking to people I don’t agree with, so your presence in the thread is beneficial, but wish you would actually put arguments forward rather than just contradicting everything, usually with no more than a few words! It intrigues me though that while we all seem to agree this is an awful Tory government, there are some who seem to regard good old JC as above all criticism - a position which nonsensical. In other words, there's always a righteous excuse for each of his many mistakes. I don't get that fanatical type of approach myself and I do think it hinders the debate at an important time. *edit - either that or they're having us on! Clearly you don’t think Corbyn is beyond criticism as you spend 90% of your time on here doing just that. |
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Mar 21, 2019 11:00:56 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Mar 21, 2019 11:00:56 GMT
It intrigues me though that while we all seem to agree this is an awful Tory government, there are some who seem to regard good old JC as above all criticism - a position which nonsensical. In other words, there's always a righteous excuse for each of his many mistakes. I don't get that fanatical type of approach myself and I do think it hinders the debate at an important time. *edit - either that or they're having us on! Clearly you don’t think Corbyn is beyond criticism as you spend 90% of your time on here doing just that. Thank you for making my point entirely! Jeez. |
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Mar 21, 2019 11:41:41 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Mar 21, 2019 11:41:41 GMT
Clearly you don’t think Corbyn is beyond criticism as you spend 90% of your time on here doing just that. Thank you for making my point entirely! Jeez. How have I made your point entirely then? I wasn’t trying to defend Corbyn, merely pointing out the enormous holes in your argument that nobody on here criticises him. Jeez. |
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Mar 21, 2019 11:50:03 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Mar 21, 2019 11:50:03 GMT
Thank you for making my point entirely! Jeez. How have I made your point entirely then? I wasn’t trying to defend Corbyn, merely pointing out the enormous holes in your argument that nobody on here criticises him. Jeez. Actually, your point was that I criticise him a lot - you make no mention of anyone else critising him. Also, at no point did I say nobody else does. Have another try. You're right though, I've been critical of Corbyn but also of May's government - as have most people across the country. |
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Mar 21, 2019 12:19:45 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Mar 21, 2019 12:19:45 GMT
How have I made your point entirely then? I wasn’t trying to defend Corbyn, merely pointing out the enormous holes in your argument that nobody on here criticises him. Jeez. Actually, your point was that I criticise him a lot - you make no mention of anyone else critising him. Also, at no point did I say nobody else does. Have another try. You're right though, I've been critical of Corbyn but also of May's government - as have most people across the country. If you were the Leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition, what would you have done then? |
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Mar 21, 2019 12:30:26 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Mar 21, 2019 12:30:26 GMT
Neither our PM or our leader of the opposition covered themselves in glory tonight. Firstly Corbyn walks out of the type of cross party meeting he himself has been calling for seemingly due to the presence of the independents. He's never going to be a statesman is he. Then, May turns up 20 minutes late to deliver an uninspiring statement that appears to blame everyone but herself for the fiasco at Westminster. Yes Theresa we are tired, tired of you. Genuinely can't think of a time when modern Britain has had a Tory and Labour leader who are both so totally unsuitable for office. Been a Labour supporter all my life and had genuine optimism that JC would make a difference. By refusing to be in the same room as someone whose opinion differs from your own is childish if it was you an i, as leader of the opposition, its downright unprofessional. How on earth would he deal with the rest of the EU, Trump and co if he was ever elected. “What’s apparent from tonight’s meeting is that, despite his claims, Jeremy Corbyn only ever speaks with people he agrees with.” Euan Philips, spokesman for the group Labour Against Anti-Semitism. |
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Post by jb on Mar 21, 2019 12:38:59 GMT
Actually, your point was that I criticise him a lot - you make no mention of anyone else critising him. Also, at no point did I say nobody else does. Have another try. You're right though, I've been critical of Corbyn but also of May's government - as have most people across the country. If you were the Leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition, what would you have done then? Gone to my good mate Maduro and ask for his opinion. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Mar 21, 2019 12:45:31 GMT
Man, you’ve got it bad. Listen to yourself “blood on her hands”. You’re losing the plot. Your mob has already slaughtered one MP and are in court for harassing another (both females, I wonder why), so for the PM to be pointing accusatory fingers at Her colleagues in the HoC is deeply irresponsible. Guys lets just take a breath and calm down a little on this topic. The one thing Brexit has done to the country is divide it massively, but lets remember why we are all on this board as Chester fans. We might not agree on politics, but lets agree to be civil and respect each others opinions without the unnecessary emotional outbursts. |
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Mar 21, 2019 12:46:32 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Mar 21, 2019 12:46:32 GMT
Well I hate what May has negotiated. I'd have liked to see Labour take a more pro-EU stance from the outset. It hasn't helped that JC has been by some as a Brexiteer himself!
I think Corbyn should have campaigned harder for remain in the first place.
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Mar 21, 2019 12:58:16 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 21, 2019 12:58:16 GMT
Well I hate what May has negotiated. I'd have liked to see Labour take a more pro-EU stance from the outset. It hasn't helped that JC has been by some as a Brexiteer himself! I think Corbyn should have campaigned harder for remain in the first place. And alienate large swathes of their traditional support? Corbyn and Labour have had the most difficult task of trying to represent the 100% - the only party to do so. |
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Post by Derry Blue on Mar 21, 2019 12:58:29 GMT
Well I hate what May has negotiated. I'd have liked to see Labour take a more pro-EU stance from the outset. It hasn't helped that JC has been by some as a Brexiteer himself! I think Corbyn should have campaigned harder for remain in the first place. I’m not sure Corbyn wants to remain. Maybe Chris Leslie MP has it right when he says “Astonishing. Yet again Jeremy Corbyn puts petty party politics before the national interest.” |
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Post by Ian H Block on Mar 21, 2019 13:10:33 GMT
Well I hate what May has negotiated. I'd have liked to see Labour take a more pro-EU stance from the outset. It hasn't helped that JC has been by some as a Brexiteer himself! I think Corbyn should have campaigned harder for remain in the first place. I’m not sure Corbyn wants to remain. Maybe Chris Leslie MP has it right when he says “Astonishing. Yet again Jeremy Corbyn puts petty party politics before the national interest.” What’s Theresa May been doing for nearly 3 years then? The whole debacle is due to internal Tory politicking and to Hell with the rest of us. Talk about party before country, what we’re witnessing here is the destruction of the U.K. just to keep the Tories in one piece. |
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Mar 21, 2019 13:55:00 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Mar 21, 2019 13:55:00 GMT
Neither our PM or our leader of the opposition covered themselves in glory tonight. Firstly Corbyn walks out of the type of cross party meeting he himself has been calling for seemingly due to the presence of the independents. He's never going to be a statesman is he. Then, May turns up 20 minutes late to deliver an uninspiring statement that appears to blame everyone but herself for the fiasco at Westminster. Yes Theresa we are tired, tired of you. Genuinely can't think of a time when modern Britain has had a Tory and Labour leader who are both so totally unsuitable for office. Been a Labour supporter all my life and had genuine optimism that JC would make a difference. By refusing to be in the same room as someone whose opinion differs from your own is childish if it was you an i, as leader of the opposition, its downright unprofessional. How on earth would he deal with the rest of the EU, Trump and co if he was ever elected. Quote from Vince Cable: “Jeremy Corbyn’s kinder, gentler politics found wanting as he stomped out of the meeting.” |
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Post by Derry Blue on Mar 21, 2019 13:57:13 GMT
Well I hate what May has negotiated. I'd have liked to see Labour take a more pro-EU stance from the outset. It hasn't helped that JC has been by some as a Brexiteer himself! I think Corbyn should have campaigned harder for remain in the first place. And alienate large swathes of their traditional support? Corbyn and Labour have had the most difficult task of trying to represent the 100% - the only party to do so. How does Keir Starmer represent the Leave views of so many Labour supporters in the northern constituencies? |
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