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Jul 22, 2019 8:53:44 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 22, 2019 8:53:44 GMT
Try again. Steptoe and his assistant want to lower the limit to £150k. He also wants to introduce a land tax. A land tax based on the value of the property you own? Something like the Council Tac then? Sounds like Venezuela mate. I bet you have sleepless nights worrying that the Ruperts in the big houses won’t be able to afford a second skiing holiday. Sounds like this won't affect just the 'Ruperts' as you put it though. It will also impact upon many families who have simply worked hard in life and managed their money well - the kind of people that the radical Labour left have always seen as fair game. It's disgusting. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 22, 2019 9:15:45 GMT
How rich people think they get rich: hard work, gumption, a “can-do” attitude.
How rich people actually get rich: birth lottery, merciless exploitation of the working class.
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Jul 22, 2019 9:18:56 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 22, 2019 9:18:56 GMT
A land tax based on the value of the property you own? Something like the Council Tac then? Sounds like Venezuela mate. I bet you have sleepless nights worrying that the Ruperts in the big houses won’t be able to afford a second skiing holiday. Sounds like this won't affect just the 'Ruperts' as you put it though. It will also impact upon many families who have simply worked hard in life and managed their money well - the kind of people that the radical Labour left have always seen as fair game. It's disgusting. Except it’s not Labour policy, the party is merely opening a discussion on the options available to overhaul an outdated system that is exploited by the super-rich (Duke of Westminster for example, paid nothing). Not sure why you are getting in a hot funk over this, surely you should direct your ire at the Tories’ Dementia Tax that will take everything you have above £23,000. |
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Jul 22, 2019 9:24:14 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 22, 2019 9:24:14 GMT
Sounds like this won't affect just the 'Ruperts' as you put it though. It will also impact upon many families who have simply worked hard in life and managed their money well - the kind of people that the radical Labour left have always seen as fair game. It's disgusting. Except it’s not Labour policy, the party is merely opening a discussion on the options available to overhaul an outdated system that is exploited by the super-rich (Duke of Westminster for example, paid nothing). Not sure why you are getting in a hot funk over this, surely you should direct your ire at the Tories’ Dementia Tax that will take everything you have above £23,000. Surely that Tory tax is a good thing though if you listen to SB who wants money he's not entitled to or done anything to achieve handed to him on a plate. |
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Jul 22, 2019 10:14:35 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 22, 2019 10:14:35 GMT
Except it’s not Labour policy, the party is merely opening a discussion on the options available to overhaul an outdated system that is exploited by the super-rich (Duke of Westminster for example, paid nothing). Not sure why you are getting in a hot funk over this, surely you should direct your ire at the Tories’ Dementia Tax that will take everything you have above £23,000. Surely that Tory tax is a good thing though if you listen to SB who wants money he's not entitled to or done anything to achieve handed to him on a plate. I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make. Who is SB and how does he formulate Labour’’s manifesto position on taxation? |
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Jul 22, 2019 10:37:27 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 22, 2019 10:37:27 GMT
Surely that Tory tax is a good thing though if you listen to SB who wants money he's not entitled to or done anything to achieve handed to him on a plate. I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make. Who is SB and how does he formulate Labour’’s manifesto position on taxation? Doesn't take much to confuse your sort does it Ian. Nevermind, we'll agree to disagree. Again. |
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Jul 22, 2019 10:58:24 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 22, 2019 10:58:24 GMT
I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make. Who is SB and how does he formulate Labour’’s manifesto position on taxation? Doesn't take much to confuse your sort does it Ian. Nevermind, we'll agree to disagree. Again. My sort? What exactly is ‘my sort’, just so I know. |
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Post by jb on Jul 22, 2019 16:53:07 GMT
Try again. Steptoe and his assistant want to lower the limit to £150k. He also wants to introduce a land tax. A land tax based on the value of the property you own? Something like the Council Tac then? Sounds like Venezuela mate. I bet you have sleepless nights worrying that the Ruperts in the big houses won’t be able to afford a second skiing holiday. Communist Corbyn wants to lower inheritance tax and in addition add a land tax. Basically giving the state the right too pillage a person’s estate for “the greater good”. A communist ideology if ever there was one wouldn’t you agree? As for Mancot he is clearly jealous of those who’ve worked hard and achieved their goals as he believes everyone who is successful has just been handed it on a plate. Another communist ideology if ever there was one. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 22, 2019 17:02:38 GMT
A land tax based on the value of the property you own? Something like the Council Tac then? Sounds like Venezuela mate. I bet you have sleepless nights worrying that the Ruperts in the big houses won’t be able to afford a second skiing holiday. Communist Corbyn wants to lower inheritance tax and in addition add a land tax. Basically giving the state the right too pillage a person’s estate for “the greater good”. A communist ideology if ever there was one wouldn’t you agree? As for Mancot he is clearly jealous of those who’ve worked hard and achieved their goals as he believes everyone who is successful has just been handed it on a plate. Another communist ideology if ever there was one. Attachments:
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Post by jb on Jul 22, 2019 17:05:35 GMT
Communist Corbyn wants to lower inheritance tax and in addition add a land tax. Basically giving the state the right too pillage a person’s estate for “the greater good”. A communist ideology if ever there was one wouldn’t you agree? As for Mancot he is clearly jealous of those who’ve worked hard and achieved their goals as he believes everyone who is successful has just been handed it on a plate. Another communist ideology if ever there was one. Standard Corbynite response I expected. No explanation just a childish retort. Well done! |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 22, 2019 17:46:32 GMT
For all the talk of Labour and the Tories losing the plot, the reality is that the next general election will end up with one of the other of them in government, albeit propped up by other parties. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49043552Basically, the two main parties are losing votes because they're treading on eggshells over Brexit and trying to keep everyone happy. Brexit Party and Lib Dems are benefiting from nailing their colours to the mast on either side. There's also the SNP, who are really the only reason Labour aren't winning elections, because Scotland used to be Labour heartland. Said it before, but I can't for the live of me understand why anyone would vote Brexit Party (or a single issue pro-Remain party for that matter) in a general election. I get it in the EU elections - it was a protest vote and we shouldn't really have been having them, but a protest vote in a general election that could actually win seats? Is being in or out of the EU really so important that you don't care about any other political issue. Do you really want to be in a Brexit Party constituency, with a Brexit Party MP making local decisions. I try to be understanding of other political views but I do think that's just bloody-mindedness and stupidity. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jul 22, 2019 18:12:52 GMT
A land tax based on the value of the property you own? Something like the Council Tac then? Sounds like Venezuela mate. I bet you have sleepless nights worrying that the Ruperts in the big houses won’t be able to afford a second skiing holiday. Communist Corbyn wants to lower inheritance tax and in addition add a land tax. Basically giving the state the right too pillage a person’s estate for “the greater good”. A communist ideology if ever there was one wouldn’t you agree? As for Mancot he is clearly jealous of those who’ve worked hard and achieved their goals as he believes everyone who is successful has just been handed it on a plate. Another communist ideology if ever there was one. Just as with Stalinism, you have zero idea what Communism is. This really isn't rocket science. A cursory glance at a secondary school politics textbook could teach you this stuff. There wouldn't be any private land in a communist state as it would all be the property of the state/society and therefore there would not be any form of land tax because the state would be placing a tax onto itself. Also - believing "everyone who is successful has just been handed it on a plate" is not an ideology. So we'll add ideology to the growing list of words you don't know the meaning of but like to throw around like confetti. |
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Jul 22, 2019 20:29:02 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 22, 2019 20:29:02 GMT
For all the talk of Labour and the Tories losing the plot, the reality is that the next general election will end up with one of the other of them in government, albeit propped up by other parties. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49043552Basically, the two main parties are losing votes because they're treading on eggshells over Brexit and trying to keep everyone happy. Brexit Party and Lib Dems are benefiting from nailing their colours to the mast on either side. There's also the SNP, who are really the only reason Labour aren't winning elections, because Scotland used to be Labour heartland. Said it before, but I can't for the live of me understand why anyone would vote Brexit Party (or a single issue pro-Remain party for that matter) in a general election. I get it in the EU elections - it was a protest vote and we shouldn't really have been having them, but a protest vote in a general election that could actually win seats? Is being in or out of the EU really so important that you don't care about any other political issue. Do you really want to be in a Brexit Party constituency, with a Brexit Party MP making local decisions. I try to be understanding of other political views but I do think that's just bloody-mindedness and stupidity. Spot on. For example, the Lib Dem’s have just appointed their new leader. Jo Swinson has: • Warned against rises in Minimum Wage • Defended Tory Tribunal Fees • Scrapped EMA • Cut Disability Payments • Backed Bedroom Tax • Tripled Tuition Fees • Voted to bomb several Muslim Countries • Backed Austerity But hey, they are very pro-Remain so most Remainers are nailing their colours to the yellow mast of all of the above policies, just to Remain. |
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Jul 22, 2019 20:39:36 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 22, 2019 20:39:36 GMT
Oh, and she also said we “MUST” have a monument in honour of Margaret Thatcher.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 23, 2019 7:31:10 GMT
On another note, does anyone else think we've just kind of sleepwalked into having Boris Johnson as prime minister? I'm surprised there haven't been major protests about this. It's like everyone's just worn down with politics and we've accepted that if America has a ridiculous president, we might as well follow suit.
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On another note, does anyone else think we've just kind of sleepwalked into having Boris Johnson as prime minister? I'm surprised there haven't been major protests about this. It's like everyone's just worn down with politics and we've accepted that if America has a ridiculous president, we might as well follow suit. I don’t think we’ve sleepwalked into it, it’s the lack of scrutiny from the mass media at large to call him out as the right wing fascist he is that’s helped facilitate this. His record is so toxic he shouldn’t be anywhere near a leadership election, never mind winning one. There have been some protests against him becoming prime minister, there’s another one planned for today in London. The main media outlets may not report on it though. |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jul 23, 2019 12:28:11 GMT
Yet another unelected Tory bastard foisted on the country, by 160000 zimmer frame wielding, racists. They really are vermin. Time for a General Election and a chance to end the headlong rush to a damaging no deal Brexit, that only the extremists voted for.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:45:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 12:45:44 GMT
Have we ever elected a prime minister or do the ruling party elect there own choice. What on earth have you got against people with zimmer frames or is it just wealthy people with zimmer frames
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Post by Lobster on Jul 23, 2019 12:49:41 GMT
Basically complaining about an unelected PM moving in just two years after a general election.
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Jul 23, 2019 14:57:26 GMT
Post by everhopeful on Jul 23, 2019 14:57:26 GMT
I wonder which female(s) he'll be moving into No. 10 with him!!
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Jul 23, 2019 15:15:36 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jul 23, 2019 15:15:36 GMT
Have we ever elected a prime minister or do the ruling party elect there own choice. What on earth have you got against people with zimmer frames or is it just wealthy people with zimmer frames close but you can add to that Tory, Brexit loving, racist, neo-fascist scum, with zimmerframes |
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Jul 23, 2019 17:08:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 17:08:52 GMT
You have one almighty big chip on your shoulder. And an amazing foul vocabulary about your fellow man
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Jul 23, 2019 18:34:39 GMT
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Post by luke90 on Jul 23, 2019 18:34:39 GMT
Have we ever elected a prime minister or do the ruling party elect there own choice. What on earth have you got against people with zimmer frames or is it just wealthy people with zimmer frames close but you can add to that Tory, Brexit loving, racist, neo-fascist scum, with zimmerframes I'm a Tory member. I'm far from rich. Are you calling me all of the above? |
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Jul 23, 2019 19:07:55 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 23, 2019 19:07:55 GMT
You’re an oxymoron.
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Jul 23, 2019 19:18:16 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jul 23, 2019 19:18:16 GMT
close but you can add to that Tory, Brexit loving, racist, neo-fascist scum, with zimmerframes I'm a Tory member. I'm far from rich. Are you calling me all of the above? Given that you couldnt put a fag paper between the Brexit party extremists and the Tory party, led by Boris Johnson and the ERG , my discription is probably a 100% correct. |
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Jul 23, 2019 19:24:30 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 23, 2019 19:24:30 GMT
Interesting someone can seek to take the moral highground while at the same time inanely throwing around thuggish slurs.
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Jul 23, 2019 19:25:07 GMT
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Post by luke90 on Jul 23, 2019 19:25:07 GMT
I'm a Tory member. I'm far from rich. Are you calling me all of the above? Given that you couldnt put a fag paper between the Brexit party extremists and the Tory party, led by Boris Johnson and the ERG , my discription is probably a 100% correct. Whilst I agree that some of the policies aren't the best, I'd like to know your political stance since you're so keen to dismiss others. You sound more angry and right wing than the people you hate so much Robert. |
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Jul 23, 2019 19:48:23 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jul 23, 2019 19:48:23 GMT
Life long Socialist. Former Secretary of UCATT. Solidly Pro European and Pro Remain. Anti Racist and Anti Fascist and Anti Brexit My hatred of the Tory party goes back to Thatchers time and her decimation of working class communities and will never de.Not pepared to bow down to the Right wing direction, the UK is taking. Fierce critic of Right wing popularism and Nationalism. Thankfully, Johnson is the last throw of the Tory dice and the party will be obliterated at the next election. With the One Nation conservatives jouning the Lib Dems, leaving just the extremists. Is my stance clear enough for you?
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Jul 23, 2019 20:03:39 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 23, 2019 20:03:39 GMT
Interesting someone can seek to take the moral highground while at the same time inanely throwing around thuggish slurs. Nauseating hypocrisy from Captain ‘People like you’. |
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Jul 23, 2019 20:07:30 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 23, 2019 20:07:30 GMT
Interesting someone can seek to take the moral highground while at the same time inanely throwing around thuggish slurs. Nauseating hypocrisy from Captain ‘People like you’. Dry your eyes mate! |
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