BREXIT

The problem you don't seem to grasp is that your attitude to this perfectly encapsulates the reasons why so many people voted to Leave. Because, whether you admit it or not, in your mind and in the minds of the architects of the Remain campaign, everyone who voted Leave is an immigrant-hating thicko who voted the way they did because of "lies on a bus" or because they didn't like "bent bananas".

And your attitude is precisely the same attitude as most of the politicians trying to reverse the result - Messrs Blair, Campbell, Umunna, D Milliband, Clegg, Cable etc. They all have one thing in common - an utter contempt for the people who chose to vote the way that they did. They believe they have a monopoly on political wisdom and that they can't possibly be wrong. They also, to a man, happen to be morally reprehensible carpet-bagging wankers who are roundly loathed by normal people. And for good reason in every single case. 

And then you all wonder, even under the controlling hand of this shambolic government, why most polling shows that a majority would still vote to leave even now. A piece of advice - until you can all lose your arrogant, self-entitled persuasions of "we know better than you" and remove the aforementioned carpet-bagging wankers from the forefront of your campaign - your efforts will continue in vain. 

I suppose I have to take your"bullshit" comment under advisement seeing as it comes from one with a Masters Degree in said bullshit.

God help us all.

I just thought I'd dig up one of your responses Ian in response to your dig at me above - something about fried sliced potatoes. And you insult me.

Superb to see the Tories imploding and I can't wait for a general election. Brexit has to work for the many, not the few.

The only problem is there is no good Brexit. Because every model of Brexit csuses some degree of economic damage. A hard Brexit is a non starter for most of the multi national businesses based in the UK. See Airbus. Jaguar Nissan BMW etc. The least damaging Brexit is the Norway Model, where we retain access to the single market and costoms union but leave the E.U And the call for a Government of National unity is laughable. The referendum and Brexit was always more about trying to stop the Tory party breakibg apart than the National interest of the country. It us a conservative party problem and it is good to see the Conservative party imploding over the issue.

"Brexit is like watching your library being burnt down by people who never learned to read."

Crucial vote last night and the Lib Dem top brass, Cable and Farron, were nowhere to be seen - one motion passed by just two votes. Are they really the party of the Remainers?

People talking of a Labour split or at least a new formation to create a "Centrist" party ain't gonna work - the Lib Dems are the centrists and they're on 7%. People have a clear binary choice in British politics now (with the exception of Scotland) - a choice beteeen a rampant right-wing extremist, austerity-driven pro-millionaire dogma of the callous, heartless Tory bastards or a Labour-led future where everybody's living standards will better in a kind, caring and compassionate society where public services, workers and human rights are all protected - a future for the many, not the few.

Do you view everything in your life through your binary glasses. Yes, there are extremes in British politics - rich business-loving Tories and TUC controlled Marxists. But I suggest that there are all sorts of positions in between. On this thread of sweeping generalisations you seem obsessed.  But no doubt Midfield General will support you with another little trite phrase he's picked up somewhere (in the style of coalition of chaos). Have you ever wondered why the pair of you don't generate any real debate on this thread. Maybe, unlike me, most people realise that when faced with ridiculous over generalisations as in your recent offering that they're just no point.  Seems a shame when I suspect you'd dearly love to garner support for the Labour Party.

Why is this Brexit shambles still going ahead? Who is it benefiting economically , other than a few already very rich disaster capitalists?

The Government is a national embarrassment, but not as cringeworthy as some of the Brextremists and the right-wing media they feed off, who seem to think we are still fighting WW2 or something (not that any of them did anyway).

Looks like the Tories are not only intent on taking their own party down but the country with it 50 years to see the benefits of brexit wasnt written on the side of the bus and it wont be the likes of Reece Mogg that suffers.

May and her government are paralysed and there is no majority for any form of Brexit that can command the support of her party or the commons. The political impasse will need to be resolved by either a referendum or a general election, that Corbyn is odds on to win

You lot might get your way after all. Obviously Treason May is worried that Dominic Raab is pushing the EU hard and might actually get real negotiations going, so she's sidelined him already. May is your best hope of no Brexit.