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Post by Charfield Blue on Apr 7, 2018 14:34:39 GMT
What is needed is a Manager who knows his way around the lower leagues and can pick players who put the Club first not just the money like some of the ones lately but while we have people in charge who dont know a donkey from a horse what hope is there as is proven over the last 2 seasons I don't think there's any fear of new singings being here only for the money the type of wages we're going to be handing out.
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Post by boughtonblue on Apr 7, 2018 15:04:07 GMT
The board need to get their act together, it's a bloody shambles. Listened to the shane pinnington podcast last night and SO, MB and Steve Bower all had the same opinion that we need a more professional approach regarding running the first team. It's extremely worrying. I think next season has a good chance of being written off before it's even begun. We need to make this happen ASAP. When is this EGM? Next CFU meeting is on 18th April. This is going to be a lively meeting!
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Post by Charfield Blue on Apr 7, 2018 15:11:37 GMT
We need to make this happen ASAP. When is this EGM? Next CFU meeting is on 18th April. This is going to be a lively meeting! I really hope it is. My concern is that the apathy has really taken over and we won't see the big turnout and passion of the last crisis meeting.
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Post by boughtonblue on Apr 7, 2018 16:03:41 GMT
Next CFU meeting is on 18th April. This is going to be a lively meeting! I really hope it is. My concern is that the apathy has really taken over and we won't see the big turnout and passion of the last crisis meeting. I think many fans have written off this season but my overusing emotion is anger at the people responsible for putting us in this position.
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Post by rcb on Apr 7, 2018 16:17:51 GMT
I literally just burst out laughing at my desk......Dean Saunders!! Andy Holden does not want a managers job, but would be happy to work as an assistant. My choice would be Graham Barrow/ Andy Holden. But the current board would need to change for that to happen. Sadly, seven months too late, when it was last chance saloon time. I have no doubt that those two last September would have kept the club in the National League, and with larger gates, equating to in excess of an extra £80,000 for the season. Forget the poor inherited squad, the fact remains that the set up and organisation has been diabolical. Yet again, today, we witness a total inability to see out a half, conceding in added time at the end of the first half. Well done Maguire, you got your way and convinced the blind followers that Bignot was the man. Without doubt the most shameful season in the history of the club. Previously you could blame Vaughan, but this time it was totally self inflicted. Given the rope twelve months ago to tie up the future, the board instead chose to hang the club. The people of Chester clearly had no stomach for a public execution and turned their backs.
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Post by chesterken on Apr 7, 2018 16:34:02 GMT
Andy Holden does not want a managers job, but would be happy to work as an assistant. My choice would be Graham Barrow/ Andy Holden. But the current board would need to change for that to happen. Sadly, seven months too late, when it was last chance saloon time. I have no doubt that those two last September would have kept the club in the National League, and with larger gates, equating to in excess of an extra £80,000 for the season. Forget the poor inherited squad, the fact remains that the set up and organisation has been diabolical. Yet again, today, we witness a total inability to see out a half, conceding in added time at the end of the first half. Well done Maguire, you got your way and convinced the blind followers that Bignot was the man. Without doubt the most shameful season in the history of the club. Previously you could blame Vaughan, but this time it was totally self inflicted. Given the rope twelve months ago to tie up the future, the board instead chose to hang the club. The people of Chester clearly had no stomach for a public execution and turned their backs. Sorry but I don’t think he could have kept us up with this group and the financial situation, but keep on dreaming if it makes you feel better.
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Post by rcb on Apr 7, 2018 17:12:39 GMT
Sadly, seven months too late, when it was last chance saloon time. I have no doubt that those two last September would have kept the club in the National League, and with larger gates, equating to in excess of an extra £80,000 for the season. Forget the poor inherited squad, the fact remains that the set up and organisation has been diabolical. Yet again, today, we witness a total inability to see out a half, conceding in added time at the end of the first half. Well done Maguire, you got your way and convinced the blind followers that Bignot was the man. Without doubt the most shameful season in the history of the club. Previously you could blame Vaughan, but this time it was totally self inflicted. Given the rope twelve months ago to tie up the future, the board instead chose to hang the club. The people of Chester clearly had no stomach for a public execution and turned their backs. Sorry but I don’t think he could have kept us up with this group and the financial situation, but keep on dreaming if it makes you feel better. You can stop making excuses for Bignot now! He’s achieved exactly what I always feared. I hope all the blind followers are happy. I, sure as hell, am not. Yes, I had a dream, as did many others. Sadly too many blind followers have fought hard to keep McCarthy, praise Maguire, and then make excuse after excuse for the failed appointment called Bignot. Let’s see where this season’s so called bad players end up! McConville not good enough, Durrell not good enough, Hunt not good enough? What a f***ing joke!
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Post by Jack on Apr 7, 2018 17:14:48 GMT
Sorry but I don’t think he could have kept us up with this group and the financial situation, but keep on dreaming if it makes you feel better. You can stop making excuses for Bignot now! He’s achieved exactly what I always feared. I hope all the blind followers are happy. I, sure as hell, am not. Yes, I had a dream, as did many others. Sadly too many blind followers have fought hard to keep McCarthy, praise Maguire, and the make excuse after excuse for the failed appointment called Bignot. Let’s see where this season’s so called bad players end up! McConville not good enough, Durrell not good enough, Hunt not good enough? What a f***ing joke! It's very easy to state how Barrow would have kept us up, but it's a ridiculous argument because we'll never know. Barrow would have had Hannah, James, Rowe-Turner, McCombe, Halls and Turnbull all on huge wages. Added to the fact he hasn't managed for years and I think not only would we have been relegated, but he'd have tarnished his reputation at the club. We were doomed - irrespective of manager.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 7, 2018 18:51:45 GMT
It's the same lack of inspiring names we had when we appointed Bignot. At least Graham Barrow isn't being thrown around.....yet! No manager worth their salt would touch us at this moment in time. A club in chaos and with no money. It's okay to be reminiscing about us being an ex-league club etc but at this moment in time we are a shambles. Until we have a structured board, a clear vision and a decent idea of our budget for next season you can forget attracting anyone other than someone in the last chance saloon. Personally I would have kept Bignot and gave him the chance to prove his credentials. Put him against the names on that list and he stacks up very well indeed. How many of them have won the NLN? Decent shout but I'll bet he'll be glad when he hands his office keys back in.
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Post by billyw on Apr 7, 2018 19:06:01 GMT
You can stop making excuses for Bignot now! He’s achieved exactly what I always feared. I hope all the blind followers are happy. I, sure as hell, am not. Yes, I had a dream, as did many others. Sadly too many blind followers have fought hard to keep McCarthy, praise Maguire, and the make excuse after excuse for the failed appointment called Bignot. Let’s see where this season’s so called bad players end up! McConville not good enough, Durrell not good enough, Hunt not good enough? What a f***ing joke! It's very easy to state how Barrow would have kept us up, but it's a ridiculous argument because we'll never know. Barrow would have had Hannah, James, Rowe-Turner, McCombe, Halls and Turnbull all on huge wages. Added to the fact he hasn't managed for years and I think not only would we have been relegated, but he'd have tarnished his reputation at the club. We were doomed - irrespective of manager. Let's not forget that most of the above players came to us with good reputations so why have they been crap. Could the amateurish shenanigans and conflicts behind the scenes have played some part?
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Post by 292 on Apr 7, 2018 19:26:19 GMT
I am no Man U fan but you have to respect what they did with the class of 92, you don't win anything with kids/academy players they said, would be great if we could do something like that and have a manager who is fully on board with that approach. We already have the right person at the club for that job but some people think he's too young for the task 😉
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Post by yossergolf on Apr 7, 2018 19:29:53 GMT
Throughout this whole poor season Marcus Bignot has kept his professional approach and been very dignified. I am not a supporter of him but we could do much worse. Problem is too many fans see him as the problem and this could impact next seasons attendances. Hiis summary after today’s game is 100% accurate and he appears to make some very valid points. We are on a mess but we have to get stability and organisation back in to the club. It is time for us all to pull together , stop badmouthing those who are trying to pull the club around and if we believe they are not the right individuals then step up. There are too many who moan about what is going on but not prepared to stand up and be counted. We can all say we will do this or that but now is that time. When you read all of the crap on some posts it is no wonder we are in a poor place. Let’s look to support those players who have put the effort in and show any prospective managers what the fans can give. My expectation is there will be many posts slagging off this post, which confirms what has been said
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Post by 292 on Apr 7, 2018 19:32:22 GMT
Definitely not. Calum is doing a fabulous job with the youth set up. To remove him from that and install him in a position where he has no experience and will have high expectations and high possibility of failure is unfair on him, his family, the club and the supporters. Leave Calum to continue to develop the future of the club and someone else better qualified to look after first team. Where has employing "experienced" managers got us? We need fresh ideas, new enthusiasm and someone dyed in the wool blue, who understands what we are about and what it means to play for Chester Football Club. We keep moaning about the same list of no mark managers on the underground, we need to be brave and look at it all over again. Given the chance he would bring the desire, passion, commitment, drive and ambition that has so sadly been lacking at the club for the last 5 years.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Apr 7, 2018 20:08:10 GMT
It's very easy to state how Barrow would have kept us up, but it's a ridiculous argument because we'll never know. Barrow would have had Hannah, James, Rowe-Turner, McCombe, Halls and Turnbull all on huge wages. Added to the fact he hasn't managed for years and I think not only would we have been relegated, but he'd have tarnished his reputation at the club. We were doomed - irrespective of manager. Let's not forget that most of the above players came to us with good reputations so why have they been crap. Could the amateurish shenanigans and conflicts behind the scenes have played some part? McGuire is responsible for allowing the useless McCarthy to piss the budget on a load of past their sell by date journeymen and the board being too weak to stop him. As for the players. A Southport fan has been on begging us to take back Hannah. Turnbull is warming Stockports bench and James is working his magic for for Barrow. (They got beat 4-1and maybe joining us in the Conference North).
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Post by billyw on Apr 7, 2018 20:40:47 GMT
Let's not forget that most of the above players came to us with good reputations so why have they been crap. Could the amateurish shenanigans and conflicts behind the scenes have played some part? McGuire is responsible for allowing the useless McCarthy to piss the budget on a load of past their sell by date journeymen and the board being too weak to stop him. As for the players. A Southport fan has been on begging us to take back Hannah. Turnbull is warming Stockports bench and James is working his magic for for Barrow. (They got beat 4-1and maybe joining us in the Conference North). Halls, McCombe, James and Turnbull played around 38 games each for clubs that finished in the top half of the league last season so clearly something went wrong here. Only McCombe is over 30 so to accuse them of being past their sell by date is ridiculous.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Apr 7, 2018 20:54:03 GMT
In reply to that Crawford and Roberts are a lot better than Turnbll and James. Hobson and Jones better than McCombe. Hannah, Akintude, White are all collectively crap. The thing is they are not doing any better at the other clubs they have gone to and some have gone to clubs in the Conference North. Hannah is half the player he was. Same goes for James. Turnbull probably was decent but injuries have caught up with him. McCombe has a chronic lack of pace and Hall tries but his distribution is terrible.
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Post by lookingin on Apr 7, 2018 21:39:19 GMT
There is a lot of talk on here about who will be our new manager. I've been thinking who is going to make the final decision? More on the lines of . who will say how much we are going to pay them? ,and how long his contract will be?
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 7, 2018 21:40:47 GMT
Not a clue who’ll interview them, appoint them or whatever. No one in the board with a clue how to do it!
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Post by Derry Blue on Apr 7, 2018 21:48:23 GMT
Not a clue who’ll interview them, appoint them or whatever. No one in the board with a clue how to do it! That might be the nub of the whole issue. Do we fans have any confidence in who will be doing the appointing. I'm not sure we do.
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Post by bluejay on Apr 7, 2018 23:13:48 GMT
Definitely not. Calum is doing a fabulous job with the youth set up. To remove him from that and install him in a position where he has no experience and will have high expectations and high possibility of failure is unfair on him, his family, the club and the supporters. Leave Calum to continue to develop the future of the club and someone else better qualified to look after first team. Where has employing "experienced" managers got us? We need fresh ideas, new enthusiasm and someone dyed in the wool blue, who understands what we are about and what it means to play for Chester Football Club. We keep moaning about the same list of no mark managers on the underground, we need to be brave and look at it all over again. Given the chance he would bring the desire, passion, commitment, drive and ambition that has so sadly been lacking at the club for the last 5 years. Agree with you 100%. Is he ambitious to step up? If he is then we will kick ourselves when another club decides he is worth a gamble. His teams seem to be motivated and organised. We haven't seen that in the first team since Sharps left.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 7, 2018 23:59:45 GMT
We may reach the point where Calum will combine his current role with that of First Team Manager...
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Post by jb on Apr 8, 2018 0:35:33 GMT
Why have players like Astles and Akintunde gone backwards in their development this season? Last season they looked like they’d both be playing in the Football League. Remember Akintunde ripping Dover to bits and thinking we’ve got some player here. Is it to do with man-management or coaching?
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Post by norwegianblue on Apr 8, 2018 7:00:58 GMT
Where has employing "experienced" managers got us? We need fresh ideas, new enthusiasm and someone dyed in the wool blue, who understands what we are about and what it means to play for Chester Football Club. We keep moaning about the same list of no mark managers on the underground, we need to be brave and look at it all over again. Given the chance he would bring the desire, passion, commitment, drive and ambition that has so sadly been lacking at the club for the last 5 years. Agree with you 100%. Is he ambitious to step up? If he is then we will kick ourselves when another club decides he is worth a gamble. His teams seem to be motivated and organised. We haven't seen that in the first team since Sharps left. There is absolutely no doubt that Calum is 100% Chester, popular and very very much appreciated. He is performing 5 star work with the youth set up. And that is exactly it. He is working at development of BOYS. To be appointed as First Team Coach/Manager is a totally different job and requires different skills. That includes management of MEN. As mentioned on other threads, this seasons squad consisted of experienced players who for whatever reason simply did not perform and could not be motivated. We’ve all seen it. I see Calum as being at the centre of our club for many years. The youth system has to be the lifeblood of our club. The infrastructure that we all want so dearly to be in place. He is the best person to recommend which players are worthy of full time contracts and when they are ready for addition to match day squads. Appointing him as first team coach would unsettle the youth system and club infrastructure.
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Post by g1 on Apr 8, 2018 7:22:54 GMT
Definitely not. Calum is doing a fabulous job with the youth set up. To remove him from that and install him in a position where he has no experience and will have high expectations and high possibility of failure is unfair on him, his family, the club and the supporters. Leave Calum to continue to develop the future of the club and someone else better qualified to look after first team. Where has employing "experienced" managers got us? We need fresh ideas, new enthusiasm and someone dyed in the wool blue, who understands what we are about and what it means to play for Chester Football Club. We keep moaning about the same list of no mark managers on the underground, we need to be brave and look at it all over again. Given the chance he would bring the desire, passion, commitment, drive and ambition that has so sadly been lacking at the club for the last 5 years. Also don't think callum would get the respect in the dressing room plus what contacts does he have
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Apr 8, 2018 7:57:58 GMT
What about Billy Heath? Took Halifax up? Or is he too old school? Views
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 9:16:14 GMT
Frankly, whoever gets it will be on a hiding to nothing.
I know it happens at every club but, crikey, we seem to be world leaders at it!
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Post by 292 on Apr 8, 2018 9:52:31 GMT
Where has employing "experienced" managers got us? We need fresh ideas, new enthusiasm and someone dyed in the wool blue, who understands what we are about and what it means to play for Chester Football Club. We keep moaning about the same list of no mark managers on the underground, we need to be brave and look at it all over again. Given the chance he would bring the desire, passion, commitment, drive and ambition that has so sadly been lacking at the club for the last 5 years. Also don't think callum would get the respect in the dressing room plus what contacts does he have Depends who is in that dressing doesn't it? Anyone from this squad can no right to be disrespectful to anyone. Answer to the 2nd part of the question is lots!
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Post by 292 on Apr 8, 2018 9:56:01 GMT
Agree with you 100%. Is he ambitious to step up? If he is then we will kick ourselves when another club decides he is worth a gamble. His teams seem to be motivated and organised. We haven't seen that in the first team since Sharps left. There is absolutely no doubt that Calum is 100% Chester, popular and very very much appreciated. He is performing 5 star work with the youth set up. And that is exactly it. He is working at development of BOYS. To be appointed as First Team Coach/Manager is a totally different job and requires different skills. That includes management of MEN. As mentioned on other threads, this seasons squad consisted of experienced players who for whatever reason simply did not perform and could not be motivated. We’ve all seen it. I see Calum as being at the centre of our club for many years. The youth system has to be the lifeblood of our club. The infrastructure that we all want so dearly to be in place. He is the best person to recommend which players are worthy of full time contracts and when they are ready for addition to match day squads. Appointing him as first team coach would unsettle the youth system and club infrastructure. The youth system can only be the lifeblood if it's used. Why would it unsettle the youth system? If the 1st team is PT next season he can do both as the youth team will still hopefully be FT scholars.
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Post by paulie on Apr 8, 2018 10:00:43 GMT
Paul Carden 5/1 Andy Holden 8/1 Neil Redfern 8/1 Gary Brabin 12/1 Shaun Reid 12/1 Richard Mooney 16/1 Ronnie Moore 16/1 Dean Saunders 20/1 . Out of that list. I would probably choose either Paul Carden or Andy Holden. Holden with his experience of bringing young players through and to intregate our academy playerz into the first team might be worth a shout.l? Providing we can get some stability off the pitch. Any odds on Calvin Hughes?
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Post by navajo on Apr 8, 2018 10:02:03 GMT
Not a clue who’ll interview them, appoint them or whatever. No one in the board with a clue how to do it! Calvin Hughes, football genius
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