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Post by agl on Sept 16, 2018 7:57:58 GMT
You'd like to think most fans would look at the bigger picture. Amazing how complacency seems to set in so quickly. This is a big game in many ways - lose it and you can imagine the meltdown on here. A chance to finally win back to back games, get some momentum going, the prize money of offer, the chance of a Cup run etc, and it's actually a more attractive fixture than many home league games. I'd suggest that anyone considering not going should sacrifice an away league game instead, as they don't bring in any money to the club.
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Post by elazuluno on Sept 16, 2018 8:11:26 GMT
You'd like to think most fans would look at the bigger picture. Amazing how complacency seems to set in so quickly. This is a big game in many ways - lose it and you can imagine the meltdown on here. A chance to finally win back to back games, get some momentum going, the prize money of offer, the chance of a Cup run etc, and it's actually a more attractive fixture than many home league games. I'd suggest that anyone considering not going should sacrifice an away league game instead, as they don't bring in any money to the club. Totally agree but.....Back to back games? Are you forgetting kiddy on Tuesday or are you assuming that’s in the bag?
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Post by eltonblues on Sept 16, 2018 8:51:52 GMT
If you aren't going then why not donate the £6 we would get from you paying £15 on the gate?
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Post by agl on Sept 16, 2018 9:45:27 GMT
You'd like to think most fans would look at the bigger picture. Amazing how complacency seems to set in so quickly. This is a big game in many ways - lose it and you can imagine the meltdown on here. A chance to finally win back to back games, get some momentum going, the prize money of offer, the chance of a Cup run etc, and it's actually a more attractive fixture than many home league games. I'd suggest that anyone considering not going should sacrifice an away league game instead, as they don't bring in any money to the club. Totally agree but.....Back to back games? Are you forgetting kiddy on Tuesday or are you assuming that’s in the bag? Yes, had forgotten that! How about... it's a chance to get back to winning ways
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Post by bonecrusher on Sept 16, 2018 9:55:03 GMT
Just out of curiosity how much would you of considered reasonable for the FA Cup? I actually thought (incorrectly it appears) that the FA capped the prices for specific rounds of the cup. I was expecting a tenner to be honest. However I don't really know what the club needs to charge in order to not make a loss on a game
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Post by mcseal on Sept 16, 2018 10:07:15 GMT
I don't think the criteria for pricing this game should be 'what can we charge so that we break even'. Even if it was there is another club to take account of in this. City of Liverpool will be looking at this as a massive cash boost for them and as they have an equal say in what the entrance fee is, they'd have to be persuaded that reducing the entrance fee would generate more money for them. Probably unlikely.
NB: Here are the FA Cup qualifying round rules as regards admission prices fees:
Qualifying Competition Immediately after the draw is known, the two Clubs concerned must mutually agree the prices of admission subject to the following conditions. Except where mutually agreed otherwise the minimum admission (except to children and senior citizens) to matches shall be: In the Extra-Preliminary, Preliminary and First Round Qualifying: £3.00 In the Second and Third Rounds Qualifying: £5.00 In the Fourth Round Qualifying: £6.00 A higher admission charge may be mutually agreed between the Clubs concerned. The away Club’s spectators can only be charged more than the home Club’s spectators if agreed by both Clubs. The price of admission for children and senior citizens must be mutually agreed between the Clubs concerned.
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Post by chesterken on Sept 16, 2018 11:37:54 GMT
Here is my take on this and it’s by no means a criticism of fans who feel the price is too high, I feel humble when I look at the hours and hours of free time and work that the volunteers put in at our club. It’s fantastic to see and we should be very proud of what they do. I don’t feel I have the time and if I’m honest the inclination to follow in there footsteps so all I have to do to do is turn up and pay my money, if you can afford to go why not get down next Saturday to be part of what should a a great day with a really good atmosphere.
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Post by agl on Sept 16, 2018 13:17:31 GMT
Look, if we go on and win the FA Cup there will still be complaints about the route the open top bus tour is taking.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Sept 16, 2018 13:28:44 GMT
It is dearer than I was expecting but if we want to be competitive we have to help the club take advantage of fund generating opportunities like this.
If we as fans don't, nobody else will.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 16, 2018 13:52:18 GMT
Possibly a chance to have a game of pay what you want with a recommended minimum of say £8.This was a catalyst 3 years ago for Lincoln's renaissance. Obviously CoL would have to agree.
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Post by blue4life on Sept 16, 2018 14:14:22 GMT
It's the 2nd qualifying round. £15 is taking the piss. I won't be bothering. I can understand your feelings on this but please remember that for every £15 admission we'll get around £6 going to our club for this, so we need as many people through the doors as possible at this game. The FA Cup has always had a special appeal for me. If you were around watching us in the mid 80s then you'll know where I'm coming from. We're in the middle of a season like no other at Chester FC if truth be told and we need our fans to stick by us right now, so if there is a slim chance of reconsidering your initial decision then I'd appeal to you to come to the game. Jeff Will beer be on sale inside the ground for the Kiddy and Liverpool game?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 14:24:45 GMT
Possibly a chance to have a game of pay what you want with a recommended minimum of say £8.This was a catalyst 3 years ago for Lincoln's renaissance. Obviously CoL would have to agree. COLFC probably jumped at the chance of us charging full whack. Biggest game in their short history and a nice little payday for them, hopefully for us too. We need to get behind the lads for this one especially, they'll turn up in numbers and will definitely be up for it.
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Post by silverblue on Sept 16, 2018 17:20:56 GMT
Please remember as Jeff said, ticket price, less 20% vat, less expenses, then we get half of whats left. There will be many concessions and youths not paying full price. We will make very little out of this game, and we need all the money we can get. We do not have a very good record when it comes to the cup but we need to win this one.
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Post by Imperial on Sept 16, 2018 17:44:06 GMT
Personally I don’t think £15 is unreasonable. It’s not a Cheshire Cup game after all. That said, I think it’s important that we’re run as a business, we shouldn’t be begging fans to turn up because the club needs the support, we should be making the product on offer one that fans are happy to pay for.
I realise that’s easier said than done & that things are in the works to improve the match day experience but the constant guilt trips from some about what others should or shouldn’t do with their time and or money gets on my tits.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 16, 2018 18:50:07 GMT
£15 is an absolute travesty for a 2nd round qualifier against a North West Counties League opponent. Whoever it is setting the prices - they need to give their heads a good WOBBLE. Thought this was a fan owned/ran club, but the fans are last to find out everything all the time. I don’t think you understand two things: 1) A fan owned club doesn’t mean we don’t operate as a business. 2) we appoint a board to make decisions, a board that no new fans seem to want to join.We aren’t “last to find out everything”, it’s just funnily enough every decision made isn’t run by us first. Many of which when it comes to this competition are dictated by the FA anyway.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 16, 2018 18:53:07 GMT
Possibly a chance to have a game of pay what you want with a recommended minimum of say £8.This was a catalyst 3 years ago for Lincoln's renaissance. Obviously CoL would have to agree. Pay what you want is a terrible business idea. I’d put good money on the fact most people would pay the minimum possible amount and we’d not get enough extra fans to cover the deficit. It’s all good and well for clubs getting 8,000 a week as a one off, but for a club struggling to get 2,000 I think it’s poor business.
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Post by Imperial on Sept 16, 2018 19:16:49 GMT
Possibly a chance to have a game of pay what you want with a recommended minimum of say £8.This was a catalyst 3 years ago for Lincoln's renaissance. Obviously CoL would have to agree. Pay what you want is a terrible business idea. I’d put good money on the fact most people would pay the minimum possible amount and we’d not get enough extra fans to cover the deficit. It’s all good and well for clubs getting 8,000 a week as a one off, but for a club struggling to get 2,000 I think it’s poor business. Might be a good idea for a game where we wouldn’t expect many to turn up anyway. Cheshire Senior Cup or whatever.
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Post by paulie on Sept 16, 2018 19:49:32 GMT
Personally think £15 to watch us against a bunch of players that will probably be playing the following morning on a park field somewhere in Liverpool is a bit excessive.
None the less i’ll Still be there, looking forward to it too.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 16, 2018 19:53:14 GMT
Pay what you want is a terrible business idea. I’d put good money on the fact most people would pay the minimum possible amount and we’d not get enough extra fans to cover the deficit. It’s all good and well for clubs getting 8,000 a week as a one off, but for a club struggling to get 2,000 I think it’s poor business. Might be a good idea for a game where we wouldn’t expect many to turn up anyway. Cheshire Senior Cup or whatever. Yeah I wouldn’t think that would to such a bad idea. Cheshire Cup is a bit of a nothing competition, personally don’t go to it being far away. May attract a few more for it.
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Post by avfo on Sept 16, 2018 20:33:14 GMT
Might be a good idea for a game where we wouldn’t expect many to turn up anyway. Cheshire Senior Cup or whatever. Yeah I wouldn’t think that would to such a bad idea. Cheshire Cup is a bit of a nothing competition, personally don’t go to it being far away. May attract a few more for it. For that competition it would have to be ' pay what you can as long as it's £5 or more'.
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Post by zooblue on Sept 16, 2018 22:15:49 GMT
Moan Moan Moan Moan Moan. If you can't afford it, don't go. It's cheap for some people and expensive for others.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 17, 2018 0:46:57 GMT
Moan Moan Moan Moan Moan. If you can't afford it, don't go. It's cheap for some people and expensive for others. It’s all good and well saying that, but let’s say 75% say they can’t afford it, we’re in serious financial trouble as a club. Cup games like these need to be priced to attract fans and potential new fans. Some people go whether it’s £5 or £25, myself included, but that doesn’t mean I think it’s right to price out some supporters either.
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Post by Andy on Sept 17, 2018 7:33:54 GMT
Can't believe how much people are under estimating this team. 3 promotions on the bounce in 3 years they been in existence. They are not going to just rock up and roll over, this game could be a tough one and it's the FA Cup anything can happen. Win 3 games in this and it could change the club finances and give us that push forwards both on and off the pitch we need.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 17, 2018 8:00:54 GMT
Moan Moan Moan Moan Moan. If you can't afford it, don't go. It's cheap for some people and expensive for others. It’s all good and well saying that, but let’s say 75% say they can’t afford it, we’re in serious financial trouble as a club. Cup games like these need to be priced to attract fans and potential new fans. Some people go whether it’s £5 or £25, myself included, but that doesn’t mean I think it’s right to price out some supporters either. Lets not forget the club only get about £6 a head from this game so if our break even figure is 1800 then we will need 3600 just to break even and I dont think thats going to happen
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Sept 17, 2018 9:01:26 GMT
Serious question aimed at anyone who thinks the entrance fee for saturday is too dear. Going on the logic it should be cheaper because of the stage of the competition and opposition, would the same people be happy to pay £40 if we were drawn at home to Man City in the 3rd round ?
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Sept 17, 2018 9:09:44 GMT
Serious question aimed at anyone who thinks the entrance fee for saturday is too dear. Going on the logic it should be cheaper because of the stage of the competition and opposition, would the same people be happy to pay £40 if we were drawn at home to Man City in the 3rd round ? No, I wouldn’t.
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Sept 17, 2018 9:21:26 GMT
Serious question aimed at anyone who thinks the entrance fee for saturday is too dear. Going on the logic it should be cheaper because of the stage of the competition and opposition, would the same people be happy to pay £40 if we were drawn at home to Man City in the 3rd round ? No, I wouldn’t. So surely then, the same price every round, no matter who the opposition is the fairest way to structure ?
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Post by Lobster on Sept 17, 2018 9:38:34 GMT
Can't believe how much people are under estimating this team. 3 promotions on the bounce in 3 years they been in existence. They are not going to just rock up and roll over, this game could be a tough one and it's the FA Cup anything can happen. Win 3 games in this and it could change the club finances and give us that push forwards both on and off the pitch we need. They didn't get promoted last season, but I agree with your point. A strong NWCL team is probably better than a struggling Evo-Stik Premier team, as evidenced by the number of teams in those leagues who get successive promotions and relegations.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 17, 2018 9:44:31 GMT
So surely then, the same price every round, no matter who the opposition is the fairest way to structure ? Yeah, but whinge whinge groan grumble moan.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 9:45:09 GMT
Can't believe how much people are under estimating this team. 3 promotions on the bounce in 3 years they been in existence. They are not going to just rock up and roll over, this game could be a tough one and it's the FA Cup anything can happen. Win 3 games in this and it could change the club finances and give us that push forwards both on and off the pitch we need. They didn't get promoted last season, but I agree with your point. A strong NWCL team is probably better than a struggling Evo-Stik Premier team, as evidenced by the number of teams in those leagues who get successive promotions and relegations. I am not underestimating them, but we should win comfortably given budget, experience of players and management etc. However, the ghosts of Penrith and Runcorn keep whispering to me...
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