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Post by Lobster on Sept 17, 2018 9:48:36 GMT
They didn't get promoted last season, but I agree with your point. A strong NWCL team is probably better than a struggling Evo-Stik Premier team, as evidenced by the number of teams in those leagues who get successive promotions and relegations. I am not underestimating them, but we should win comfortably given budget, experience of players and management etc. However, the ghosts of Penrith and Runcorn keep whispering to me... I do think we'll win, but I can see us making hard work of it!
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Post by jb on Sept 17, 2018 11:28:09 GMT
Can't believe how much people are under estimating this team. 3 promotions on the bounce in 3 years they been in existence. They are not going to just rock up and roll over, this game could be a tough one and it's the FA Cup anything can happen. Win 3 games in this and it could change the club finances and give us that push forwards both on and off the pitch we need. Three wins? We are going to do a Lincoln and get to the last eight. Forget the Cowley Brothers, the Gallagher Brothers are taking us to Goodison and Stamford Bridge on our quest for glory.
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Post by rjshbdhmtrm on Sept 17, 2018 11:33:34 GMT
That’s the spirit ‘jb’
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 17, 2018 12:53:18 GMT
It’s all good and well saying that, but let’s say 75% say they can’t afford it, we’re in serious financial trouble as a club. Cup games like these need to be priced to attract fans and potential new fans. Some people go whether it’s £5 or £25, myself included, but that doesn’t mean I think it’s right to price out some supporters either. Lets not forget the club only get about £6 a head from this game so if our break even figure is 1800 then we will need 3600 just to break even and I dont think thats going to happen I think that figure only applies to league games. Cup games are the icing on the cake.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 17, 2018 12:55:05 GMT
Can't believe how much people are under estimating this team. 3 promotions on the bounce in 3 years they been in existence. They are not going to just rock up and roll over, this game could be a tough one and it's the FA Cup anything can happen. Win 3 games in this and it could change the club finances and give us that push forwards both on and off the pitch we need. Three wins? We are going to do a Lincoln and get to the last eight. Forget the Cowley Brothers, the Gallagher Brothers are taking us to Goodison and Stamford Bridge on our quest for glory. They can't be the Gallagher brothers. They seem to get on together ok!
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 17, 2018 13:04:24 GMT
Lets not forget the club only get about £6 a head from this game so if our break even figure is 1800 then we will need 3600 just to break even and I dont think thats going to happen I think that figure only applies to league games. Cup games are the icing on the cake. You're probably right but there must be a cost to stage a game policing, electricity etc etc. I'd be interested to know how much it actually costs to stage a game anybody any ideas?
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Post by massivefloodlights on Sept 17, 2018 13:14:53 GMT
£15? Seriously? Piss take.
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Post by jb on Sept 17, 2018 13:24:38 GMT
£15? Seriously? Piss take. In the words of another Mancunian (like Bern and Jonno): "Everyone can hear you, but nobody's listening."
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 17, 2018 15:53:07 GMT
Can't believe how much people are under estimating this team. 3 promotions on the bounce in 3 years they been in existence. They are not going to just rock up and roll over, this game could be a tough one and it's the FA Cup anything can happen. Win 3 games in this and it could change the club finances and give us that push forwards both on and off the pitch we need. They didn't get promoted last season, but I agree with your point. A strong NWCL team is probably better than a struggling Evo-Stik Premier team, as evidenced by the number of teams in those leagues who get successive promotions and relegations. Judging by the promotions and players they are a club on a roll. A bit like a NWC version of us in the Unibond. At that time we would have fancied ourselves against anyone. We should win, but don't underestimate them. Should be a proper game. Pricing isn't just down to the home team. The smaller away team often sees this as their big chance of some money. After all, they'll likely bring 500 with them. We get 40% of their money too. I've a season ticket so it's a one off cost for me. Be more difficult if I was paying on the gate this week. Let's hope those you can afford it turn up. It's our first home draw since we reformed, isn't it? Remember the years when we couldn't play in it?
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 17, 2018 15:58:25 GMT
They didn't get promoted last season, but I agree with your point. A strong NWCL team is probably better than a struggling Evo-Stik Premier team, as evidenced by the number of teams in those leagues who get successive promotions and relegations. Judging by the promotions and players they are a club on a roll. A bit like a NWC version of us in the Unibond. At that time we would have fancied ourselves against anyone. We should win, but don't underestimate them. Should be a proper game. Pricing isn't just down to the home team. The smaller away team often sees this as their big chance of some money. After all, they'll likely bring 300-400 with them. We get 40% of their money too. I've a season ticket so it's a one off cost for me. Be more difficult if I was paying on the gate this week. Let's hope those you can afford it turn up. It's our first home draw since we reformed, isn't it? Remember the years when we couldn't play in it? We were drawn at home to Gateshead in 2013.
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 17, 2018 15:59:43 GMT
Judging by the promotions and players they are a club on a roll. A bit like a NWC version of us in the Unibond. At that time we would have fancied ourselves against anyone. We should win, but don't underestimate them. Should be a proper game. Pricing isn't just down to the home team. The smaller away team often sees this as their big chance of some money. After all, they'll likely bring 300-400 with them. We get 40% of their money too. I've a season ticket so it's a one off cost for me. Be more difficult if I was paying on the gate this week. Let's hope those you can afford it turn up. It's our first home draw since we reformed, isn't it? Remember the years when we couldn't play in it? We were drawn at home to Gateshead in 2013. Quite correct, we were! Forgot about that😀
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Post by sqzl on Sept 17, 2018 16:09:34 GMT
It’s all good and well saying that, but let’s say 75% say they can’t afford it, we’re in serious financial trouble as a club. Cup games like these need to be priced to attract fans and potential new fans. Some people go whether it’s £5 or £25, myself included, but that doesn’t mean I think it’s right to price out some supporters either. Lets not forget the club only get about £6 a head from this game so if our break even figure is 1800 then we will need 3600 just to break even and I dont think thats going to happen Yeah I don’t agree with lowering the price but I just want to give some balance to the debate. I’m on the same sort of mindset as yourself.
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Post by mcseal on Sept 17, 2018 17:57:38 GMT
They didn't get promoted last season, but I agree with your point. A strong NWCL team is probably better than a struggling Evo-Stik Premier team, as evidenced by the number of teams in those leagues who get successive promotions and relegations. Judging by the promotions and players they are a club on a roll. A bit like a NWC version of us in the Unibond. At that time we would have fancied ourselves against anyone. We should win, but don't underestimate them. Should be a proper game. Pricing isn't just down to the home team. The smaller away team often sees this as their big chance of some money. After all, they'll likely bring 500 with them. We get 40% of their money too.I've a season ticket so it's a one off cost for me. Be more difficult if I was paying on the gate this week. Let's hope those you can afford it turn up. It's our first home draw since we reformed, isn't it? Remember the years when we couldn't play in it? 50% Harry. Don't know if this is a new rule or not but I noticed that if a non league team get to the third round proper and play a league team, the non league team keeps 55% of the gate.
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 17, 2018 20:30:18 GMT
Judging by the promotions and players they are a club on a roll. A bit like a NWC version of us in the Unibond. At that time we would have fancied ourselves against anyone. We should win, but don't underestimate them. Should be a proper game. Pricing isn't just down to the home team. The smaller away team often sees this as their big chance of some money. After all, they'll likely bring 500 with them. We get 40% of their money too.I've a season ticket so it's a one off cost for me. Be more difficult if I was paying on the gate this week. Let's hope those you can afford it turn up. It's our first home draw since we reformed, isn't it? Remember the years when we couldn't play in it? 50% Harry. Don't know if this is a new rule or not but I noticed that if a non league team get to the third round proper and play a league team, the non league team keeps 55% of the gate. Sorry. I Should have been clearer. Don't the FA get 20% after costs? Meaning that each club gets 40% of any money left after costs. Sure someone on here will advise. I meant that each club gets 40% of the gate receipts
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Post by mcseal on Sept 17, 2018 22:12:04 GMT
50% Harry. Don't know if this is a new rule or not but I noticed that if a non league team get to the third round proper and play a league team, the non league team keeps 55% of the gate. Sorry. I Should have been clearer. Don't the FA get 20% after costs? Meaning that each club gets 40% of any money left after costs. Sure someone on here will advise. I meant that each club gets 40% of the gate receipts FA don't take any % until semi final stage. See below: (b) Subject to Rules 22(k) and (l), net gate receipts shall be divided as follows: (i) In all matches prior to the Third Round of the Competition Proper the net gate receipts of each match shall be divided equally between the competing Clubs. (ii) Save for those matches set out in (iii), in all matches played from (and including) the Third Round of the Competition Proper prior to the Semi-Final the net gate receipts of each match shall be divided equally between the competing Clubs. (iii) In all matches played from (and including) the Third Round of the Competition Proper prior to the Semi-Final, involving Clubs outside The FA Premier League or The Football League playing against Clubs from The FA Premier League or The Football League, the net gate receipts of each match shall be divided between the Clubs competing in each match as follows: 55% to Clubs outside The FA Premier League or The Football League. 45% to FA Premier League or Football League Clubs.
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 18, 2018 10:09:40 GMT
Sorry. I Should have been clearer. Don't the FA get 20% after costs? Meaning that each club gets 40% of any money left after costs. Sure someone on here will advise. I meant that each club gets 40% of the gate receipts FA don't take any % until semi final stage. See below: (b) Subject to Rules 22(k) and (l), net gate receipts shall be divided as follows: (i) In all matches prior to the Third Round of the Competition Proper the net gate receipts of each match shall be divided equally between the competing Clubs. (ii) Save for those matches set out in (iii), in all matches played from (and including) the Third Round of the Competition Proper prior to the Semi-Final the net gate receipts of each match shall be divided equally between the competing Clubs. (iii) In all matches played from (and including) the Third Round of the Competition Proper prior to the Semi-Final, involving Clubs outside The FA Premier League or The Football League playing against Clubs from The FA Premier League or The Football League, the net gate receipts of each match shall be divided between the Clubs competing in each match as follows: 55% to Clubs outside The FA Premier League or The Football League. 45% to FA Premier League or Football League Clubs. Ah! Even better! I stand corrected.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 18, 2018 11:16:21 GMT
... said the man in the orthopaedic shoes.
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Post by rjshbdhmtrm on Sept 18, 2018 11:27:07 GMT
. . . boom boom
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Post by purps on Sept 19, 2018 9:15:23 GMT
Hello lads, just wanted to come on and give a bit of balance to this debate. Although the FA rule does state that entry prices are to be agreed by both clubs, the reality is (in our limited experience anyway) is that the home team just cracks on with its normal pricing. In this case that is exactly what happened.
Chester set the price for the fixture via the club secretaries, we didn't argue in fairness but that is just how it happens. The prices for the replay (no sniggering at the back there) are set by us as £6 adult, £3 conc and £1 U16's and Chester readily agreed to that.
I'm not sure if Chester are ran by volunteers but we at COLFC are and time is already at an absolute premium and so anything out of the normal matchday routine can get missed and I think this is just one of those cases.
We played a team from Evostick Prem in the FA Cup last year at home and they tried to insist that for our home game we had to charge the same prices as they would for their home game, which if memory serves was £10 adults.
When I asked how many supporters they would be bringing, they said 30-40 and I knew we were looking at a 1000 home attendance, so we said no - why should 950 of our fans pay double the usual price? He laughably said that they were coming to watch his team from the higher division hahahahaha - we stuck to our guns but said we would happily agree to their usual prices if there was a replay.
That is genuinely how we do things; the home team sets the prices.
As regards the actual match, we could be bringing anything from between 300 - 1000 supporters for this game. We already sold out a 49 seat coach and a 74 seat double decker bus and with the locality being so close loads are making a day of it and coming on the train. I think we could hit 750, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me one bit if we filled the away end.
We genuinely do not have any Danny Dyer types, we have loads of wives, girlfriends and kids with us, so can you please pass the word amongst your own supporters that we are not into any of this bollocks (don't know if you have any of this going on?) so other than being a loud gang of drunken scouse cunts, we are sound honestly!
Its one of the biggest games of our short history and everybody is looking forward to it a lot.
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Post by rjshbdhmtrm on Sept 19, 2018 9:51:10 GMT
Ah, double decker buses to away fixtures takes me back to the early 60’s FA Cup tie v Trashmere. Won 1-0 (Walter Kelly) on a surface of 3” caked mud; probably 2,500 Blues in attendance. Billy Large went on his bike and at half-time was doing dive forward rolls in the mud wearing his multi-coloured jumper tucked into his trousers - absolute classic day out. No worries about any trouble ‘Purp’, enjoy your day - by the way, the game is absolutely massive for ourselves as well and in many ways is one of the most important games in our clubs short history.
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Post by blue4life on Sept 19, 2018 10:08:08 GMT
If the game ends in a draw when is the replay?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 10:42:26 GMT
Hello lads, just wanted to come on and give a bit of balance to this debate. Although the FA rule does state that entry prices are to be agreed by both clubs, the reality is (in our limited experience anyway) is that the home team just cracks on with its normal pricing. In this case that is exactly what happened. Chester set the price for the fixture via the club secretaries, we didn't argue in fairness but that is just how it happens. The prices for the replay (no sniggering at the back there) are set by us as £6 adult, £3 conc and £1 U16's and Chester readily agreed to that. I'm not sure if Chester are ran by volunteers but we at COLFC are and time is already at an absolute premium and so anything out of the normal matchday routine can get missed and I think this is just one of those cases. We played a team from Evostick Prem in the FA Cup last year at home and they tried to insist that for our home game we had to charge the same prices as they would for their home game, which if memory serves was £10 adults. When I asked how many supporters they would be bringing, they said 30-40 and I knew we were looking at a 1000 home attendance, so we said no - why should 950 of our fans pay double the usual price? He laughably said that they were coming to watch his team from the higher division hahahahaha - we stuck to our guns but said we would happily agree to their usual prices if there was a replay. That is genuinely how we do things; the home team sets the prices. As regards the actual match, we could be bringing anything from between 300 - 1000 supporters for this game. We already sold out a 49 seat coach and a 74 seat double decker bus and with the locality being so close loads are making a day of it and coming on the train. I think we could hit 750, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me one bit if we filled the away end. We genuinely do not have any Danny Dyer types, we have loads of wives, girlfriends and kids with us, so can you please pass the word amongst your own supporters that we are not into any of this bollocks (don't know if you have any of this going on?) so other than being a loud gang of drunken scouse cunts, we are sound honestly! Its one of the biggest games of our short history and everybody is looking forward to it a lot. Purps, CFC is run in a similar way. The only non-footballing paid employees are an accounts assistant and a groundsman. Everyone else are volunteers. Good luck on Saturday, have a great day, just not TOO great a day on the pitch...!
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Post by chesterken on Sept 19, 2018 10:49:28 GMT
Hello lads, just wanted to come on and give a bit of balance to this debate. Although the FA rules does state that entry prices are to be agreed by both clubs, the reality is (in our limited experience anyway) is that the home team just cracks on with its normal pricing. In this case that is exactly what happened. Chester set the price for the fixture via the club secretaries, we didn't argue in fairness but that is just how it happens. The prices for the replay (no sniggering at the back there) are set by us as £6 adult, £3 conc and £1 U16's and Chester readily agreed to that. I'm not sure if Chester are ran by volunteers but we at COLFC are and time is already at an absolute premium and so anything out of the normal matchday routine can get missed and I think this is just one of those cases. We played a team from Evostick Prem in the FA Cup last year at home and they tried to insist that for our home game we had to charge the same prices as they would for their home game, which if memory serves was £10 adults. When I asked how many supporters they would be bringing, they said 30-40 and I knew we were looking at a 1000 home attendance, so we said - why should 950 of our fans pay double the usual price? He laughably said that they were coming to watch his team from the higher division hahahahaha - we stuck to our guns but said we would happily agree to their usual prices if there was a replay. That is genuinely how we do things; the home team sets the prices. As regards the actual match, we could be bringing anything from between 300 - 1000 supporters for this game. We already sold out a 49 seat coach and a 74 seat double decker bus and with the locality being so close loads are making a day of it and coming on the train. I think we could hit 750, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me one bit if we filled the away end. We genuinely do not have any Danny Dyer types, we have loads of wives, girlfriends and kids with us, so can you please pass the word amongst your own supporters that we are not into any of this bollocks (don't know if you have any of this going on?) so other than being a loud gang of drunken scouse cunts, we are sound honestly! Its one of the biggest games of our short history and everybody is looking forward to it a lot. Hope you have a wonderful day result aside, it’s great when we get a decent away following with lots of banter between both sets of supporters, if the games half as good as last nights game against Kidderminster we are in for a treat.
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Post by purps on Sept 19, 2018 12:45:51 GMT
Ah, double decker buses to away fixtures takes me back to the early 60’s FA Cup tie v Trashmere. Won 1-0 (Walter Kelly) on a surface of 3” caked mud; probably 2,500 Blues in attendance. Billy Large went on his bike and at half-time was doing dive forward rolls in the mud wearing his multi-coloured jumper tucked into his trousers - absolute classic day out. No worries about any trouble ‘Purp’, enjoy your day - by the way, the game is absolutely massive for ourselves as well and in many ways is one of the most important games in our clubs short history.Yes, never thought of it like that, we just assumed you are the historic Chester City FC - ah well was also hoping you would be under-estimating us
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Post by purps on Sept 19, 2018 12:49:29 GMT
If the game ends in a draw when is the replay? Originally agreed for Tuesday, but our previous biggest crowd at home was 1024 and THAT was a nightmare for the volunteers so we have asked Chester if we could put it back until Wednesday so we can get things organised better. Chester have agreed so just waiting on all the other parties to agree.
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Post by purps on Sept 19, 2018 12:53:38 GMT
Hello lads, just wanted to come on and give a bit of balance to this debate. Although the FA rule does state that entry prices are to be agreed by both clubs, the reality is (in our limited experience anyway) is that the home team just cracks on with its normal pricing. In this case that is exactly what happened. Chester set the price for the fixture via the club secretaries, we didn't argue in fairness but that is just how it happens. The prices for the replay (no sniggering at the back there) are set by us as £6 adult, £3 conc and £1 U16's and Chester readily agreed to that. I'm not sure if Chester are ran by volunteers but we at COLFC are and time is already at an absolute premium and so anything out of the normal matchday routine can get missed and I think this is just one of those cases. We played a team from Evostick Prem in the FA Cup last year at home and they tried to insist that for our home game we had to charge the same prices as they would for their home game, which if memory serves was £10 adults. When I asked how many supporters they would be bringing, they said 30-40 and I knew we were looking at a 1000 home attendance, so we said no - why should 950 of our fans pay double the usual price? He laughably said that they were coming to watch his team from the higher division hahahahaha - we stuck to our guns but said we would happily agree to their usual prices if there was a replay. That is genuinely how we do things; the home team sets the prices. As regards the actual match, we could be bringing anything from between 300 - 1000 supporters for this game. We already sold out a 49 seat coach and a 74 seat double decker bus and with the locality being so close loads are making a day of it and coming on the train. I think we could hit 750, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me one bit if we filled the away end. We genuinely do not have any Danny Dyer types, we have loads of wives, girlfriends and kids with us, so can you please pass the word amongst your own supporters that we are not into any of this bollocks (don't know if you have any of this going on?) so other than being a loud gang of drunken scouse cunts, we are sound honestly! Its one of the biggest games of our short history and everybody is looking forward to it a lot. Purps, CFC is run in a similar way. The only non-footballing paid employees are an accounts assistant and a groundsman. Everyone else are volunteers. Good luck on Saturday, have a great day, just not TOO great a day on the pitch...! In that case, whilst i can appreciate some fans concerns over pricing for this game, as you are playing a team from 3 divisions below, it's just a load of extra work for volunteers at your club to change the pricing structure around for 1 game, especially if you have to issue any kind of online ticket or whatever. Its a big game, we will bring our reasonably fair share of paying supporters and both fan owned clubs will have a good pay day to help them with ongoing costs.
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Post by billyw on Sept 19, 2018 12:53:44 GMT
Ah, double decker buses to away fixtures takes me back to the early 60’s FA Cup tie v Trashmere. Won 1-0 (Walter Kelly) on a surface of 3” caked mud; probably 2,500 Blues in attendance. Billy Large went on his bike and at half-time was doing dive forward rolls in the mud wearing his multi-coloured jumper tucked into his trousers - absolute classic day out. No worries about any trouble ‘Purp’, enjoy your day - by the way, the game is absolutely massive for ourselves as well and in many ways is one of the most important games in our clubs short history. Bloody hell, I remember that game and Billy Large riding his bike to Prenton Park.
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Post by rjshbdhmtrm on Sept 19, 2018 12:57:52 GMT
Never to be forgotten moment . . . that’s why we follow the Blues.
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Post by rjshbdhmtrm on Sept 19, 2018 14:44:59 GMT
Ah, double decker buses to away fixtures takes me back to the early 60’s FA Cup tie v Trashmere. Won 1-0 (Walter Kelly) on a surface of 3” caked mud; probably 2,500 Blues in attendance. Billy Large went on his bike and at half-time was doing dive forward rolls in the mud wearing his multi-coloured jumper tucked into his trousers - absolute classic day out. No worries about any trouble ‘Purp’, enjoy your day - by the way, the game is absolutely massive for ourselves as well and in many ways is one of the most important games in our clubs short history. Bloody hell, I remember that game and Billy Large riding his bike to Prenton Park. Just to show our ages Billy, it was 59/60 I thought it was 60/61. 14200+ was the gate. Chester Team (the old 2-3-5) was: Ron Howells. Ronnie Hughes, Ray Gill. Bobby Hunt, George Spruce, Frank Clemson. Jimmy Cooper, Billy Foulkes, Walter Kelly, Johnny Pimlott, Gordon Richards. 58 years ago, where has that time gone?
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Post by everhopeful on Sept 19, 2018 15:22:49 GMT
Bloody hell, I remember that game and Billy Large riding his bike to Prenton Park. Just to show our ages Billy, it was 59/60 I thought it was 60/61. 14200+ was the gate. Chester Team (the old 2-3-5) was: Ron Howells. Ronnie Hughes, Ray Gill. Bobby Hunt, George Spruce, Frank Clemson. Jimmy Cooper, Billy Foulkes, Walter Kelly, Johnny Pimlott, Gordon Richards. 58 years ago, where has that time gone? Sometimes it's horrible getting old! :-(
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