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Post by burrsdream on Mar 30, 2017 18:10:36 GMT
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Post by whopper1 on Mar 30, 2017 18:26:00 GMT
Just read that myself, don't know wot he expects on the run were on,any other manager wud of been sacked long ago, at the end of the day it's a results business
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Post by Bemused blue on Mar 30, 2017 18:29:37 GMT
I've been supportive of him until now but he is totally oblivious to this horror run and he will not acknowledge it. I was at the Barrow game and sorry Jon we played shit, you saying it was a good performance is more concerning that the defeat itself. Get beat on Saturday and we are still in a dogfight.
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Post by steveo1 on Mar 30, 2017 18:38:52 GMT
I knew comments like this were around the corner. Macca has had an easy ride in terms of critics compared to previous managers.
He keeps saying we are doing well so why is he worried about fan comments? If you were happy with the job you was doing surely you wouldn't need to have a go.
Would prefer the manager to get on with it rather than having a go at fans, not many of us left with the gates going down (another story)
If it's an issue why mention it, keep behind closed doors, the critics wil be a lot worse now, clearly bothers him and others.
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Post by billyw on Mar 30, 2017 18:42:47 GMT
I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that interview was totally embarrassing. What's all this about fans chanting his name - I've never heard it. I think we should start chanting for Sharpes. He should consider himself lucky as fans at other clubs would have crucified their manager if they had suffered similar results to us over the past 3 months. Someone can send this to McCarthy so he can 'mark it and check for spelling mistakes.' What respect I had for McCarthy has diminished.
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Post by massivefloodlights on Mar 30, 2017 18:43:56 GMT
I blame sir Fred.
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Post by Pseudoscally on Mar 30, 2017 19:03:49 GMT
I knew comments like this were around the corner. Macca has had an easy ride in terms of critics compared to previous managers. He keeps saying we are doing well so why is he worried about fan comments? If you were happy with the job you was doing surely you wouldn't need to have a go. Would prefer the manager to get on with it rather than having a go at fans, not many of us left with the gates going down (another story) If it's an issue why mention it, keep behind closed doors, the critics wil be a lot worse now, clearly bothers him and others. I tend to agree. The best thing JM could have done would be to make no comment at all about us the fans and especially Deva-chat. All it will do is further split the fan base. JM has had it pretty easy from us during this poor run of form, largely because most of us realise that sacking him is not really an option. I don't like this 50 point target non sense. If that's all we're aiming for then that's all we'll ever achieve. Whatever the budget for next year, I want JM to come out say he's put together a squad capable of finishing in the play-offs. I want us to aim high and not be content with 50 points and surviving another season. Give us something to get excited about, a decent run in the FA cup or a trophy final at Wembley. It's got to be our turn soon. We were doing so well and even going into the game away at Dover we had a chance of breaking into the top 5 and it's fell apart since then. Not only do I want to hear JM talk us up as a strong force for next year, I want him to be brutally honest when we're dogshit. We as fans are not stupid and when we're crap I want him to acknowledge it. |
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Post by Chester_Blue on Mar 30, 2017 19:10:32 GMT
the lads downstairs read the forum mmmmmmmmm one of them i think it might of been the lad who collects the cones came on here 2 weeks ago and defended jon + big chris
heard a lot of stuff about that lad he's quick to defend his mate macca but he should not be at the club with what i've heard so he needs to stop running back the snake
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Post by Rio Doherty on Mar 30, 2017 19:12:41 GMT
the lads downstairs read the forum mmmmmmmmm one of them i think it might of been the lad who collects the cones came on here 2 weeks ago and defended jon + big chris heard a lot of stuff about that lad he's quick to defend his mate macca but he should not be at the club with what i've heard so he needs to stop running back the snake Is his name Chris Piercy? |
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Post by Al on Mar 30, 2017 19:16:50 GMT
I knew comments like this were around the corner. Macca has had an easy ride in terms of critics compared to previous managers. He keeps saying we are doing well so why is he worried about fan comments? If you were happy with the job you was doing surely you wouldn't need to have a go. Would prefer the manager to get on with it rather than having a go at fans, not many of us left with the gates going down (another story) If it's an issue why mention it, keep behind closed doors, the critics wil be a lot worse now, clearly bothers him and others. I tend to agree. The best thing JM could have done would be to make no comment at all about us the fans and especially Deva-chat. All it will do is further split the fan base. JM has had it pretty easy from us during this poor run of form, largely because most of us realise that sacking him is not really an option. I don't like this 50 point target non sense. If that's all we're aiming for then that's all we'll ever achieve. Whatever the budget for next year, I want JM to come out say he's put together a squad capable of finishing in the play-offs. I want us to aim high and not be content with 50 points and surviving another season. Give us something to get excited about, a decent run in the FA cup or a trophy final at Wembley. It's got to be our turn soon. We were doing so well and even going into the game away at Dover we had a chance of breaking into the top 5 and it's fell apart since then. Not only do I want to hear JM talk us up as a strong force for next year, I want him to be brutally honest when we're dogshit. We as fans are not stupid and when we're crap I want him to acknowledge it. Come off it, you know as well as I do that we can't put a side together that could realistically get in the play offs yet. Not a hope in hells chance we could do it unless we did a Braintree by some miracle. I like Macca, I am prepared to give him as much time to build this club up, and he does need time and patience. Saying things like this doesn't help matters but then he does have a point with some of the guff on here spouted by "Sir Fred" and that Dead Cat Bucket Collector. Also, whoever it is feeding Macca this bullshit that DC is full of negative criticism you need stringing up. The vast MAJORITY of this board are still supportive because we understand the constraints he's working under. Yes there is criticism but my god most of it is constructive!! |
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Post by ivorbigblue1 on Mar 30, 2017 19:22:57 GMT
Well done Jon, we are right behind you. I believe in you, keep it going.
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Post by Pseudoscally on Mar 30, 2017 19:40:51 GMT
I tend to agree. The best thing JM could have done would be to make no comment at all about us the fans and especially Deva-chat. All it will do is further split the fan base. JM has had it pretty easy from us during this poor run of form, largely because most of us realise that sacking him is not really an option. I don't like this 50 point target non sense. If that's all we're aiming for then that's all we'll ever achieve. Whatever the budget for next year, I want JM to come out say he's put together a squad capable of finishing in the play-offs. I want us to aim high and not be content with 50 points and surviving another season. Give us something to get excited about, a decent run in the FA cup or a trophy final at Wembley. It's got to be our turn soon. We were doing so well and even going into the game away at Dover we had a chance of breaking into the top 5 and it's fell apart since then. Not only do I want to hear JM talk us up as a strong force for next year, I want him to be brutally honest when we're dogshit. We as fans are not stupid and when we're crap I want him to acknowledge it. Come off it, you know as well as I do that we can't put a side together that could realistically get in the play offs yet. Not a hope in hells chance we could do it unless we did a Braintree by some miracle. I like Macca, I am prepared to give him as much time to build this club up, and he does need time and patience. Saying things like this doesn't help matters but then he does have a point with some of the guff on here spouted by "Sir Fred" and that Dead Cat Bucket Collector. Also, whoever it is feeding Macca this bullshit that DC is full of negative criticism you need stringing up. The vast MAJORITY of this board are still supportive because we understand the constraints he's working under. Yes there is criticism but my god most of it is constructive!! Why not? We got close for a time this season. 2 defeats over Christmas to a team who are now below us, a defeat to Dover who we beat 5-0 at home. Turn them around and we'd have been 5th going into February. We've beaten D+R 3-0, Aldershot 2-0. We've been competitive in most of our games this season even against the top sides. Yes, we've been spanked a couple of times as well. All I'm saying is that sometimes I think we could go into games with a little more confidence and that starts with the manager talking us up. Home to Forest Green being an example, we were beat before a ball was kicked with the way we set out to play. If it was all about the budget then FGR/Eastleigh would have been promoted long ago but it isn't. |
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Post by Jack on Mar 30, 2017 19:43:17 GMT
I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that interview was totally embarrassing. What's all this about fans chanting his name - I've never heard it. I think we should start chanting for Sharpes. He should consider himself lucky as fans at other clubs would have crucified their manager if they had suffered similar results to us over the past 3 months. Someone can send this to McCarthy so he can 'mark it and check for spelling mistakes.' What respect I had for McCarthy has diminished. What a truly ridiculous person you must be then. Strange interview from JM. He doesn't need to reference any websites or forums, he's the manager and should be above it. For what it's worth, I think the vast majority of supporters fully support him. There's a lot of attention seekers who like to shout the loudest, but really do go into hiding if we win a game. Let's sit down and judge him at the end of the season. |
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Post by Deva93 on Mar 30, 2017 19:44:37 GMT
What is it with this 50 point target? Last season we got 54pts, and in 2014 we finished bottom 4 with 51 points!
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Post by billyw on Mar 30, 2017 19:48:45 GMT
I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that interview was totally embarrassing. What's all this about fans chanting his name - I've never heard it. I think we should start chanting for Sharpes. He should consider himself lucky as fans at other clubs would have crucified their manager if they had suffered similar results to us over the past 3 months. Someone can send this to McCarthy so he can 'mark it and check for spelling mistakes.' What respect I had for McCarthy has diminished. What a truly ridiculous person you must be then. Strange interview from JM. He doesn't need to reference any websites or forums, he's the manager and should be above it. For what it's worth, I think the vast majority of supporters fully support him. There's a lot of attention seekers who like to shout the loudest, but really do go into hiding if we win a game. Let's sit down and judge him at the end of the season. Calm down, the comment about Sharpes was obviously tongue in cheek which anyone with an atom of sense would have understood. |
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Post by sqzl on Mar 30, 2017 19:48:55 GMT
I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that interview was totally embarrassing. What's all this about fans chanting his name - I've never heard it. I think we should start chanting for Sharpes. He should consider himself lucky as fans at other clubs would have crucified their manager if they had suffered similar results to us over the past 3 months. Someone can send this to McCarthy so he can 'mark it and check for spelling mistakes.' What respect I had for McCarthy has diminished. What a truly ridiculous person you must be then. Strange interview from JM. He doesn't need to reference any websites or forums, he's the manager and should be above it. For what it's worth, I think the vast majority of supporters fully support him. There's a lot of attention seekers who like to shout the loudest, but really do go into hiding if we win a game. Let's sit down and judge him at the end of the season. Agree with this. It's actually a bit insulting to a lot of us that he's being a bit bitter about devachat in general. Forums have good and bad and everyone on earth has people that like them and people that dont. The guy needs to not take it to heart and get on with his job of picking up the players confidence because some of them have little of it left. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 19:48:57 GMT
I think Macca needs to be very careful; he's in grave danger of losing what support he has with the fans (and that may be diminishing rapidly)
When people start having a go at the media (and DC is "media"), it's often a sign that they're losing control and it becomes an excuse for their failings - politics is a good example of this.
Personally, I still back him but I do wish that, just occasionally, he says it as it is PUBLICLY rather than the banalities he often utters, maybe in an attempt to protect the players. Going back a few years, Keith Curle was very open (perhaps too much in that particular situation).
I wonder if the pressure is just beginning to get to him. I've suggested before that he needs help (not in that way!), maybe that time is coming closer
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Post by sirfred on Mar 30, 2017 19:53:13 GMT
Oh dear oh dear oh dear I've heard transcripts similar to this from the bunker in the last throws of the 3rd Reich - if he accepted the criticism I would have more respect just be honest John and admit it's not good enough at the moment
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Post by Buckley Blue on Mar 30, 2017 20:09:32 GMT
This devachat is way worse than the other one for bitterness and vitriol, general uninformed comment and obvious personal agendas
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Post by billyw on Mar 30, 2017 20:09:58 GMT
Well done Jon, we are right behind you. I believe in you, keep it going. That's all positive and no negatives so according to Jon, I've got to challenge you.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 20:22:48 GMT
Macca has not done himself any favours with that interview at all. I like him and want him to succeed but he comes across poorly here.
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Post by Derry Blue on Mar 30, 2017 20:38:46 GMT
Macca has not done himself any favours with that interview at all. I like him and want him to succeed but he comes across poorly here. Really poorly. Done himself no good at all. |
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Post by paulie on Mar 30, 2017 20:39:53 GMT
Sounds like someone is feeling a bit of pressure.
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Post by Derry Blue on Mar 30, 2017 20:40:18 GMT
Macca has not done himself any favours with that interview at all. I like him and want him to succeed but he comes across poorly here. Really poorly. Done himself no good at all. Sorry, should have put a positive as well (before I get challenged) - he must be a good speller. |
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Post by MPW on Mar 30, 2017 20:52:09 GMT
I want him to be successful for us but he's not making things any easier for himself with interviews like this.
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Post by billyw on Mar 30, 2017 21:05:29 GMT
Really poorly. Done himself no good at all. Sorry, should have put a positive as well (before I get challenged) - he must be a good speller. Come on Derry, keep up. Jon says the people who post all positives should get 'challenged'. Those who post negatives should get 'hammered' |
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Post by lachelane on Mar 30, 2017 21:26:30 GMT
This devachat is way worse than the other one for bitterness and vitriol, general uninformed comment and obvious personal agendas Seems to be that way, no surprise there as it is much easier to snipe than support. |
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Post by ivorbigblue1 on Mar 30, 2017 21:30:35 GMT
Well done Jon, we are right behind you. I believe in you, keep it going. That's all positive and no negatives so according to Jon, I've got to challenge you. Haha  Very true, I accept the challenge. I think Jon is having us all over a barrel. The lads have been talking down stairs how much slagging off they have been getting on Devachat. Jon will have told them "I 'll deflect it away from you young lads to me, just watch" We all fell for it. Jon is a genius, and great Manager. Go Jon |
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Post by Dear Jon on Mar 30, 2017 21:44:42 GMT
Most of us say things we regret when we are under pressure. But having a go at fans in this way for daring to question a run of very poor results and performances was extremely ill advised. Whilst I accept that ordinarily we should be rational and be constructive in criticism , this does however become extremely difficult when you look at the record since Christmas . I hate to sound alarmist Jon, but we have lost 8 and drawn 1 of our last 9 home games ! Whilst I am happy to see the positives, and do accept some of the hard luck stories and near misses, recent results and some performances (e.g. Maidstone away) speak for themselves. I accept that the team over performed before Christmas, and Jon and his staff should take great credit for this. However at the moment the overall weaknesses are enormous, and there appears to be no Plan B to improve matters. Next season is looking like the most challenging since the Club reformed, both on and off the field, but looking forward I remain to be convinced that Jon is the right man for what is a very difficult job - but not however a hopeless task.
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Post by Zvonimir Boban on Mar 30, 2017 21:46:53 GMT
I had to make sure it wasn't April 1st just then as that article is worthy of an April fool!
Personally I feel there has been some slightly harsh criticism thrown around considering most supporters would probably have settled for this position in the league at this stage of the season (although a run in either of the cups would have been nice) but I do understand it due to our awful, awful home form since 2017.
Of all the issues to pick up on after our latest defeat I really dont think that this message board should be one of them though. Whoever is "downstairs" reporting to John, get a grip of yourself, utterly counter productive from both John and any weasals reporting to him...."Sir Fred said this" "Guest said that".
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Very true, I accept the challenge.