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Post by Bemused blue on Apr 1, 2017 13:39:22 GMT
I don't think the most ardently negative supporter of this club could deny there has been some really positive times in this season, where we've looked a team who could punch above our weight and be a match for most in this division. I'm thinking Dover, Eastleigh, Aldershot, Sutton etc. Surely we've got a much better chance of bridging that gap with continuity? We cannot and should not become a sacking club, especially when I think lots of us went into this season fearing a relegation battle. JM is right with one thing in the interview, in that the culture of our support needs to change. It seems like we've got a sizeable minority who thrive in our failings, who begin to audibly grumble and barrack players after 15 minutes without scoring a goal, who demand the manager's head when we're on a poor run of form. I know all clubs have those supporters, but ours seeem even more hysterical than the rest. If we're going to get where we want to be, and I believe we will, it's going to happen slowly. Our fans have got to support what we're trying to do, not threaten to boycott when we lost a game to a bankrolled village team. I don't honestly believe any fan thrives on the struggles of the club, it's just some are more vocal than others in there views. Every opinion positive or negative should be respected and forums are built on debate. Personally I like Jon but the last 3 months have been dire and the football has been awful at times. The home form must be addressed as that is the lifeblood of our club and we can I'll afford the 1500 fans to continue or worse still become less as that leaves us in a very precarious position and any injection of cash i.e. the Hughes fee is used to mop up losses. I personally see a very tough season next time round. |
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Post by border collie on Apr 1, 2017 14:01:48 GMT
I don't think the most ardently negative supporter of this club could deny there has been some really positive times in this season, where we've looked a team who could punch above our weight and be a match for most in this division. I'm thinking Dover, Eastleigh, Aldershot, Sutton etc. Surely we've got a much better chance of bridging that gap with continuity? We cannot and should not become a sacking club, especially when I think lots of us went into this season fearing a relegation battle. JM is right with one thing in the interview, in that the culture of our support needs to change. It seems like we've got a sizeable minority who thrive in our failings, who begin to audibly grumble and barrack players after 15 minutes without scoring a goal, who demand the manager's head when we're on a poor run of form. I know all clubs have those supporters, but ours seeem even more hysterical than the rest. If we're going to get where we want to be, and I believe we will, it's going to happen slowly. Our fans have got to support what we're trying to do, not threaten to boycott when we lost a game to a bankrolled village team. I don't honestly believe any fan thrives on the struggles of the club, it's just some are more vocal than others in there views. Every opinion positive or negative should be respected and forums are built on debate. Personally I like Jon but the last 3 months have been dire and the football has been awful at times. The home form must be addressed as that is the lifeblood of our club and we can I'll afford the 1500 fans to continue or worse still become less as that leaves us in a very precarious position and any injection of cash i.e. the Hughes fee is used to mop up losses. I personally see a very tough season next time round. Stop it ,please . Only positive thoughts from now on |
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Post by TheTheremin on Apr 1, 2017 16:31:11 GMT
This devachat is way worse than the other one for bitterness and vitriol, general uninformed comment and obvious personal agendas That's true - all down to the lack of moderation. I've said it before, throw in a few Vaughnites ( no they haven't forgotten how special Vaughn made them feel and you know who you are) and a few goats and knobs from other clubs, mix it was about a dozen ultra negative blues who don't have a life, and you get a forum full of poison. McCarthy needs to ignore this crap hole of a forum. It adds nothing to the club. |
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Post by Devon BLUE on Apr 1, 2017 16:39:56 GMT
That's true - all down to the lack of moderation. I've said it before, throw in a few Vaughnites ( no they haven't forgotten how special Vaughn made them feel and you know who you are) and a few goats and knobs from other clubs, mix it was about a dozen ultra negative blues who don't have a life, and you get a forum full of poison. McCarthy needs to ignore this crap hole of a forum. It adds nothing to the club. I can help here. I have experience in moderating a site similar to this and had a reputation for keeping it Ship Shape and Bristol fashion. Certainly I wouldn't allow a poster to call a volunteer a snake. In a couple of weeks the indiscipline would disappear the rouge posters would be gone and you would have a site to be proud of. |
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Post by TheTheremin on Apr 1, 2017 16:51:18 GMT
I've said it before, throw in a few Vaughnites ( no they haven't forgotten how special Vaughn made them feel and you know who you are) and a few goats and knobs from other clubs, mix it was about a dozen ultra negative blues who don't have a life, and you get a forum full of poison. McCarthy needs to ignore this crap hole of a forum. It adds nothing to the club. I can help here. I have experience in moderating a site similar to this and had a reputation for keeping it Ship Shape and Bristol fashion. Certainly I wouldn't allow a poster to call a volunteer a snake. In a couple of weeks the indiscipline would disappear the rouge posters would be gone and you would have a site to be proud of. I agree that is all it needs The level of hate on here towards anyone who volunteers at the club or who works at the club, just because it is fan-owned is quite something. It's irrational but there are blues who have simply never bought into the concept of fan ownership. They see it as the root of every problem we have. As I've pointed out before the top five divisions have fan owned clubs you count count on the fingers of two hands. Of the rest of the other 118 clubs every season the vast majority of relegation places are filled with privately owned clubs. Being a Chester supporter requires patience. Apart from a couple of golden periods in the 70s, 90s and since we reformed it has mostly been completely shit since WWII. Following us requires strength of character. Sadly some fans have none. |
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Post by bonecrusher on Apr 1, 2017 17:01:45 GMT
I can help here. I have experience in moderating a site similar to this and had a reputation for keeping it Ship Shape and Bristol fashion. Certainly I wouldn't allow a poster to call a volunteer a snake. In a couple of weeks the indiscipline would disappear the rouge posters would be gone and you would have a site to be proud of. I agree that is all it needs The level of hate on here towards anyone who volunteers at the club or who works at the club, just because it is fan-owned is quite something. It's irrational but there are blues who have simply never bought into the concept of fan ownership. They see it as the root of every problem we have. As I've pointed out before the top five divisions have fan owned clubs you count count on the fingers of two hands. Of the rest of the other 118 clubs every season the vast majority of relegation places are filled with privately owned clubs. Being a Chester supporter requires patience. Apart from a couple of golden periods in the 70s, 90s and since we reformed it has mostly been completely shit since WWII. Following us requires strength of character. Sadly some fans have none. Sorry but that's such a massive overreaction. If you truly think it to be a crap hole why are you here. Yes I would agree that there are some negative views but alot of people here are passionate blues. I am one, and having been banned from the previous DevaChat for next to nothing, it's nice to be able to post about the club and team again. I also agree that it's pretty poor to be critical of the volunteers but I don't see levels of hate that you mention. One thing I would agree with though is that McCarthy should never look on here. A manager should be his own man, and never influenced by the fans in terms of team selection and tactics. Then he can fall on his own sword if it doesn't work. I also agree that some formal moderation on here wouldn't be a bad idea - for instance I don't believe in the ability to post as a guest. |
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Post by sirfred on Apr 1, 2017 17:17:18 GMT
Didn't expect a victory today so credit to Mccarthy and the team maybe our debate got him up for it hopefully as we are now safe (or probably ) we can push on to finish above the goats and gI've us a much needed home win - I'm not going to be negative at all tonight!
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Apr 1, 2017 18:04:39 GMT
Some people should be utterly embarrassed by the posts on here, Enough said.
I would have taken 52 points, by the start of April, after the Gateshead game. (When the same posters were saying we were relegation certainties).lol
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Post by TheTheremin on Apr 1, 2017 18:26:10 GMT
I agree that is all it needs The level of hate on here towards anyone who volunteers at the club or who works at the club, just because it is fan-owned is quite something. It's irrational but there are blues who have simply never bought into the concept of fan ownership. They see it as the root of every problem we have. As I've pointed out before the top five divisions have fan owned clubs you count count on the fingers of two hands. Of the rest of the other 118 clubs every season the vast majority of relegation places are filled with privately owned clubs. Being a Chester supporter requires patience. Apart from a couple of golden periods in the 70s, 90s and since we reformed it has mostly been completely shit since WWII. Following us requires strength of character. Sadly some fans have none. Sorry but that's such a massive overreaction. If you truly think it to be a crap hole why are you here. Yes I would agree that there are some negative views but alot of people here are passionate blues. I am one, and having been banned from the previous DevaChat for next to nothing, it's nice to be able to post about the club and team again.  I also agree that it's pretty poor to be critical of the volunteers but I don't see levels of hate that you mention. One thing I would agree with though is that McCarthy should never look on here. A manager should be his own man, and never influenced by the fans in terms of team selection and tactics. Then he can fall on his own sword if it doesn't work. I also agree that some formal moderation on here wouldn't be a bad idea - for instance I don't believe in the ability to post as a guest. I liked this forum at first but it's turned to crap. You can spot the pro-Vaughan posters and the goats having a laugh from a mile off. As for the ultra-negativity it's clear that they will never be happy until fan ownership ends, but even after that when it goes wrong they'll become just as unhappy when we fail to perform. |
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Post by Canadian Exile on Apr 1, 2017 19:09:26 GMT
Close this thread, it's negative.
Can I be given mod rights?
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Post by ivorbigblue1 on Apr 1, 2017 19:38:29 GMT
I don't think the most ardently negative supporter of this club could deny there has been some really positive times in this season, where we've looked a team who could punch above our weight and be a match for most in this division. I'm thinking Dover, Eastleigh, Aldershot, Sutton etc. Surely we've got a much better chance of bridging that gap with continuity? We cannot and should not become a sacking club, especially when I think lots of us went into this season fearing a relegation battle. JM is right with one thing in the interview, in that the culture of our support needs to change. It seems like we've got a sizeable minority who thrive in our failings, who begin to audibly grumble and barrack players after 15 minutes without scoring a goal, who demand the manager's head when we're on a poor run of form. I know all clubs have those supporters, but ours seeem even more hysterical than the rest. If we're going to get where we want to be, and I believe we will, it's going to happen slowly. Our fans have got to support what we're trying to do, not threaten to boycott when we lost a game to a bankrolled village team. Well said, and well done to Jon for deflecting the poison away from the players on to him ( he doesn't read this crap anyway) The club will move in the right direction with Jon and the Management team and under Mark McGuire's guidance. Great 3 points at a difficult ground to pick up points, safe trip back boys. upward and on ward to 60 points Positive, positive and more positive |
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Post by ivorbigblue1 on Apr 1, 2017 19:44:06 GMT
I don't think the most ardently negative supporter of this club could deny there has been some really positive times in this season, where we've looked a team who could punch above our weight and be a match for most in this division. I'm thinking Dover, Eastleigh, Aldershot, Sutton etc. Surely we've got a much better chance of bridging that gap with continuity? We cannot and should not become a sacking club, especially when I think lots of us went into this season fearing a relegation battle. JM is right with one thing in the interview, in that the culture of our support needs to change. It seems like we've got a sizeable minority who thrive in our failings, who begin to audibly grumble and barrack players after 15 minutes without scoring a goal, who demand the manager's head when we're on a poor run of form. I know all clubs have those supporters, but ours seeem even more hysterical than the rest. If we're going to get where we want to be, and I believe we will, it's going to happen slowly. Our fans have got to support what we're trying to do, not threaten to boycott when we lost a game to a bankrolled village team. Well said and well done to Jon Mc for deflecting the poison away from the players and on to him ( he doesn't read this cap anyway) We will move in the right direction with Jon and the management team and with Mark McGuire's guidance Great 3 points at a difficult away fixture, well done boys, safe trip back, upwards and on wards to 60 points Positive, positive and more positive |
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Post by sirfred on Apr 1, 2017 19:46:23 GMT
It's that positive you posted it twice
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Post by paulie on Apr 1, 2017 20:30:49 GMT
Looks like the people "downstairs" are snitches. "Jon, jon the nasty deva chatters are saying things about you" Lost all respect for McCarthy after that interview. |
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Post by Buckley Blue on Apr 1, 2017 20:47:34 GMT
That's him losing sleep then
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Post by TheTheremin on Apr 1, 2017 21:56:33 GMT
Looks like the people "downstairs" are snitches. "Jon, jon the nasty deva chatters are saying things about you" Lost all respect for McCarthy after that interview. So you want to spout venom continuously and then you get upset when people start to call you out on it. Wow!!! I'm wondering how you think life actually works? |
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Post by Si on Apr 1, 2017 22:29:39 GMT
I've said it before, throw in a few Vaughnites ( no they haven't forgotten how special Vaughn made them feel and you know who you are) and a few goats and knobs from other clubs, mix it was about a dozen ultra negative blues who don't have a life, and you get a forum full of poison. McCarthy needs to ignore this crap hole of a forum. It adds nothing to the club. I can help here. I have experience in moderating a site similar to this and had a reputation for keeping it Ship Shape and Bristol fashion. Certainly I wouldn't allow a poster to call a volunteer a snake. In a couple of weeks the indiscipline would disappear the rouge posters would be gone and you would have a site to be proud of. That's a corker, well played. |
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Post by paulie on Apr 2, 2017 19:09:59 GMT
Sorry, should have put a positive as well (before I get challenged) - he must be a good speller. Come on Derry, keep up. Jon says the people who post all positives should get 'challenged'. Those who post negatives should get 'hammered'  The only person that should be hammered is that idiot by the board of directors for our shocking home record. On a positive note (just for Jon) our away form has been pretty good of late. Now you (Jon) can check that for spelling you condescending prat. |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Apr 2, 2017 19:32:59 GMT
Clearly some people have their own agenda's.
I didn't hear too many dissenting voices, when McCarthy was given an extended contract at Christmas.
Southport have a revolving door policy and change Manger's with alarming frequency and it has really paid off for them, hasn't it.
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Post by wittonwonder on Apr 3, 2017 20:30:22 GMT
Sorry but that's such a massive overreaction. If you truly think it to be a crap hole why are you here. Yes I would agree that there are some negative views but alot of people here are passionate blues. I am one, and having been banned from the previous DevaChat for next to nothing, it's nice to be able to post about the club and team again. I also agree that it's pretty poor to be critical of the volunteers but I don't see levels of hate that you mention. One thing I would agree with though is that McCarthy should never look on here. A manager should be his own man, and never influenced by the fans in terms of team selection and tactics. Then he can fall on his own sword if it doesn't work. I also agree that some formal moderation on here wouldn't be a bad idea - for instance I don't believe in the ability to post as a guest. I liked this forum at first but it's turned to crap. You can spot the pro-Vaughan posters and the goats having a laugh from a mile off. As for the ultra-negativity it's clear that they will never be happy until fan ownership ends, but even after that when it goes wrong they'll become just as unhappy when we fail to perform. |
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Post by wittonwonder on Apr 3, 2017 20:34:48 GMT
Pro-Vaughan, surely there are no football fans, in any country (this once proud one, Malta, Wales for instance) who are "Pro-Vaughan"....in fact SURELY there are no human beings who are still "Pro-Vaughan".....
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Post by TheTheremin on Apr 3, 2017 20:43:28 GMT
Pro-Vaughan, surely there are no football fans, in any country (this once proud one, Malta, Wales for instance) who are "Pro-Vaughan"....in fact SURELY there are no human beings who are still "Pro-Vaughan"..... Yeah there are. Unfortunately. |
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Post by Derry Blue on Apr 3, 2017 21:16:21 GMT
Pro-Vaughan, surely there are no football fans, in any country (this once proud one, Malta, Wales for instance) who are "Pro-Vaughan"....in fact SURELY there are no human beings who are still "Pro-Vaughan"..... Yeah there are. Unfortunately. Who? |
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Post by 1874 fan on Apr 3, 2017 21:45:19 GMT
Pro-Vaughan, surely there are no football fans, in any country (this once proud one, Malta, Wales for instance) who are "Pro-Vaughan"....in fact SURELY there are no human beings who are still "Pro-Vaughan"..... But WW, your club has been happy to actively back Jim Rushe now residing at her majestys pleasure and who has led a famous old club to oblivion. This support was also against the interests of 1874 Northwich the fans run club set up in protest. Do you not feel your comments aimed at some Chester fans are a little hypocritical ? |
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Post by bogsnorkel on Apr 4, 2017 5:28:10 GMT
I agree with some of the comments about the quality of the football this season certainly when you compare it with the passing game of a couple of seasons ago. I remember one of our goals against Dartford away (4 - 2 win) when the likes of mcconville, Hughes, Rooney and Mahon put together about 7 or 8 quick passes leading to a fantastic goal.
I think some of the criticism of fellow fans on this thread plays right into the hands of JM's comments. When fans are being rude about each other i think it can reduce the credibility of the forum and the many excellent comments that are made. If I were a club director, I would be much more likely to read and take note of comments made in a civil way.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 4, 2017 7:35:58 GMT
Didn't expect a victory today so credit to Mccarthy and the team maybe our debate got him up for it hopefully as we are now safe (or probably ) we can push on to finish above the goats and gI've us a much needed home win - I'm not going to be negative at all tonight! Nice one SirFred. I had a bad experience at Torquay last year with some bullyboy doormen at the ground. I spoke to Mark Maguire about it earlier in the season when we played Torquay at home and he said he'd speak to the Torquay directors and sort it and he did. The doormen at the away entrance this year were sweetness and light. Well done for that Mark. I'm a passionate supporter and thoroughly enjoyed the clown of a ref giving us decisions on Saturday, but I am concerned about the fact that it's now 108 days since we last won a home game (Aldershot 2-0, 17/12/16). Has Macca considered employing an exorcist and ridding the Stadium of the dark force that means we cannot win a home game. Three games left ~ York City (on fire), Woking (lost 6 on the bounce to them) and BorehamWood (have we ever beaten them). I think we're more likely to win at SB than win another home game this season. Finally, I still have faith that we can finish above the Goats. Macca should be making this point at every training session. For me it would make the season a success if we did. |
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Post by Derry Blue on Apr 4, 2017 7:37:36 GMT
Yeah there are. Unfortunately. Who? Who? |
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