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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 21:23:07 GMT
Have you seen how many posts you put on here. Your not going to change anything. Oh by the way did you get round to paying your cfu membership seeing as your telling other people to do it on the other thread
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Post by Al on Mar 15, 2020 22:01:10 GMT
Have you seen how many posts you put on here. Your not going to change anything. Oh by the way did you get round to paying your cfu membership seeing as your telling other people to do it on the other thread I don't see what his CFU membership status has to do with this topic, obviously though you're trying to score cheap points against him. Regarding the Coronavirus outbreak. I've 2 young kids and a partner who is deemed to be in the high risk bracket. As far as I am concerned this government and their herd immunity policy are a disgrace |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 22:16:38 GMT
i have family in high risk areas one child with cancer and graddaughter with type one diabetes i and my wife both in 70s.don't need his scaremongering just so he can let everybodyy know he is a labour supporter.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 15, 2020 22:34:34 GMT
My scaremongering, lol OK.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 15, 2020 22:40:20 GMT
Cuba is rapidly increasing production of Interferon B which is known to have successfully treated at least 1,500 coronavirus patients.
According to scientists there are enough supplies at present to treat 80,000 people, equivalent to every single case in China.
This has been achieved despite a six-decade economic blockade imposed by the US.
I won’t mention the political ideology of Cuba.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 22:46:35 GMT
i presume you want schools and workplaces closed .or have you got another idea .like i said before i know nothing so like evey body else we either trust others who may or may not know better or we all panic.if its as bad as you think worst case scenario is we all die .i have no intention of panicking so I'll just go with the flow
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Post by avfo on Mar 15, 2020 23:45:23 GMT
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 16, 2020 9:42:05 GMT
Dear God you love a bit of gossip why don't you give it a rest. We all understand your life revolves around slagging off any thing the government does. I'm beginning to wish your lot had won then we wouldn't have to put up with your tedious posts every five minutes Noooooooooooooooooooo!! |
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Post by jb on Mar 16, 2020 10:27:30 GMT
Some good news as the number of cases in China has dramatically fallen, so much so that the temporary hospitals which were constructed in the wake of their epidemic have now been closed.
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Post by Churton Blue on Mar 16, 2020 12:45:01 GMT
Some good news as the number of cases in China has dramatically fallen, so much so that the temporary hospitals which were constructed in the wake of their epidemic have now been closed. It is great to see some good news. Apparently ten cases yesterday. Four in Wuhan, four Spanish visitors and two visitors from the UK according to the BBC. South Korea and China have been relatively successful in dealing with their outbreaks. South Korea by testing more people that anyone else in the World and China by being extremely draconian and aggressive. |
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Post by Al on Mar 16, 2020 15:15:39 GMT
Some good news as the number of cases in China has dramatically fallen, so much so that the temporary hospitals which were constructed in the wake of their epidemic have now been closed. It is great to see some good news. Apparently ten cases yesterday. Four in Wuhan, four Spanish visitors and two visitors from the UK according to the BBC. South Korea and China have been relatively successful in dealing with their outbreaks. South Korea by testing more people that anyone else in the World and China by being extremely draconian and aggressive. China disinfecting entire cities twice a day in a huge operation. Not seen anything reported to be done on that scale in the west. They've been extremely aggressive in their fight against it, and its worked. Heard that France are about to go into total lock down from Wednesday |
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Post by Churton Blue on Mar 16, 2020 16:33:40 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Mar 16, 2020 17:49:52 GMT
Have to say today's advice from Johnson seems a lot like an admission that Thursday's advice was way off the mark.
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Post by Churton Blue on Mar 16, 2020 19:06:28 GMT
Have to say today's advice from Johnson seems a lot like an admission that Thursday's advice was way off the mark. You are probably right. Trying to be positive they have stopped talking all that nonsense about herd immunity that they came out with on Thursday and Friday. They also appear to have made a screeching U turn on testing although what they said was a bit vague. Having announced they were stopping routine testing on Friday they talked about scaling up capacity and testing being important tonight so I assume they have followed the WHO advice. It was poorly delivered imo. Far too wishy washy as well and lacking clarity in some areas. A three out of ten rather than the nought out of ten last week because they saw sense in two important areas. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 16, 2020 19:56:29 GMT
So basically don’t go near anyone unless you’re a school kid.
Or a parent.
Or a teacher.
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Post by Lobster on Mar 16, 2020 20:03:46 GMT
I'm tempted to try and be a-political given the circumstances, but I also think you need to keep your eye on this lot at all times. You can tell he thinks he's Winston Churchill with these daily broadcasts.
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Post by Churton Blue on Mar 16, 2020 20:24:29 GMT
I'm tempted to try and be a-political given the circumstances, but I also think you need to keep your eye on this lot at all times. You can tell he thinks he's Winston Churchill with these daily broadcasts. My 3 out of 10 was for tonights broadcast from the dynamic trio. I would be struggling to give the Government 1 out of 10 overall. Lots of other countries have been equally poor but have upped their game. Time will tell if ours is capable of doing this but if things go badly in London, there was a hint, expect some drastic changes from Johnson and Cummings in the near future. |
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Post by Al on Mar 16, 2020 21:24:18 GMT
This lot in charge havent got a clue.
The only advice I would give is, look after yourself, your family and friends and stay safe. Don't stockpile stuff you don't or won't use. You don't need Boris bloody Johnson bumbling his way through a 30min press interview to know this.
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Post by avfo on Mar 16, 2020 22:52:40 GMT
Several (usually reliable journo's) are indicating that this document published for all to read today, led to a change in the governments previous plan -
'Perhaps our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over. In the most effective mitigation strategy examined, which leads to a single, relatively short epidemic (case isolation, household quarantine and social distancing of the elderly), the surge limits for both general ward and ICU beds would be exceeded by at least 8-fold under the more optimistic scenario for critical care requirements that we examined. In addition, e ven if all patients were able to be treated, we predict there would still be in the order of 250,000 deaths in GB, and 1.1-1.2 million in the US.
'Although advocating long term suppression, they end their report with this cheery thought - However, we emphasise that is not at all certain that suppression will succeed long term; no public health intervention with such disruptive effects on society has been previously attempted for such a long duration of time. How populations and societies will respond remains unclear.www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf |
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Post by Churton Blue on Mar 17, 2020 8:53:58 GMT
Several (usually reliable journo's) are indicating that this document published for all to read today, led to a change in the governments previous plan -
'Perhaps our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over. In the most effective mitigation strategy examined, which leads to a single, relatively short epidemic (case isolation, household quarantine and social distancing of the elderly), the surge limits for both general ward and ICU beds would be exceeded by at least 8-fold under the more optimistic scenario for critical care requirements that we examined. In addition, e ven if all patients were able to be treated, we predict there would still be in the order of 250,000 deaths in GB, and 1.1-1.2 million in the US.
'Although advocating long term suppression, they end their report with this cheery thought - However, we emphasise that is not at all certain that suppression will succeed long term; no public health intervention with such disruptive effects on society has been previously attempted for such a long duration of time. How populations and societies will respond remains unclear.www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf Thanks AVFO. On Thursday when our Government decided to do one thing and most of the rest of the world decided to do something else as Lobster pointed out they were taking a massive gamble. Thanks to Imperial College London for providing some evidence to prove the gamble was a mistake and has resulted in making them change their minds. |
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Post by Lobster on Mar 17, 2020 12:08:12 GMT
Several (usually reliable journo's) are indicating that this document published for all to read today, led to a change in the governments previous plan -
'Perhaps our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over. In the most effective mitigation strategy examined, which leads to a single, relatively short epidemic (case isolation, household quarantine and social distancing of the elderly), the surge limits for both general ward and ICU beds would be exceeded by at least 8-fold under the more optimistic scenario for critical care requirements that we examined. In addition, e ven if all patients were able to be treated, we predict there would still be in the order of 250,000 deaths in GB, and 1.1-1.2 million in the US.
'Although advocating long term suppression, they end their report with this cheery thought - However, we emphasise that is not at all certain that suppression will succeed long term; no public health intervention with such disruptive effects on society has been previously attempted for such a long duration of time. How populations and societies will respond remains unclear.www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf
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Post by Lobster on Mar 17, 2020 18:32:59 GMT
What were all those jobs Priti Patel was telling us were "low-skilled" a couple of weeks ago? Shop assistants, taxi drivers, couriers, cleaners... kind of need them all now, don't we?
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Post by Charlie Runkle on Mar 17, 2020 19:37:57 GMT
What were all those jobs Priti Patel was telling us were "low-skilled" a couple of weeks ago? Shop assistants, taxi drivers, couriers, cleaners... kind of need them all now, don't we? Absolutely zero offence to any of them, they are still low-skilled jobs. |
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Post by Lobster on Mar 18, 2020 9:51:49 GMT
What were all those jobs Priti Patel was telling us were "low-skilled" a couple of weeks ago? Shop assistants, taxi drivers, couriers, cleaners... kind of need them all now, don't we? Absolutely zero offence to any of them, they are still low-skilled jobs. Perhaps true, but they are needed, and I imagine we're currently pretty dependent on people who some might argue "shouldn't be here". |
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 18, 2020 10:37:21 GMT
Some good news as the number of cases in China has dramatically fallen, so much so that the temporary hospitals which were constructed in the wake of their epidemic have now been closed. It is great to see some good news. Apparently ten cases yesterday. Four in Wuhan, four Spanish visitors and two visitors from the UK according to the BBC. South Korea and China have been relatively successful in dealing with their outbreaks. South Korea by testing more people that anyone else in the World and China by being extremely draconian and aggressive. India have only had around 100 cases. |
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Post by Lobster on Mar 18, 2020 10:50:21 GMT
Interesting to see that Finland, which had a similarly lax response to the UK last week, saw its cases rise from 59 on Friday to 223 on Monday, prompting more extreme action this week including closing schools. It definitely seems the countries that gave laid-back, "keep calm and carry on" advice last week made a mistake. For a pretty authoritarian government, it's surprising that ours is doing not much telling and a lot of asking. "Please don't stockpile", "we advise not to go to pubs and bars" and so on. These polite messages aren't getting through in my opinion and they need actually be giving instructions and setting temporary laws.
Also, I can't believe Japan and the Olympic Committee are still talking about the Games going ahead this year. Even if it's safe by then, how is anyone supposed to train for it? Get the damn thing cancelled and move it to next year!
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Post by jb on Mar 18, 2020 12:13:32 GMT
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Post by iandychesterfc on Mar 18, 2020 13:08:47 GMT
Considering the manner in which he became chancellor, Rishi Sunak has been exceptional during this crisis. Very impressive.
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Post by Lobster on Mar 18, 2020 14:22:01 GMT
Considering the manner in which he became chancellor, Rishi Sunak has been exceptional during this crisis. Very impressive. Have to say he's come across pretty well. Dread to think how that smug idiot Sajid Javid would've handled this. |
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Post by iandychesterfc on Mar 18, 2020 14:24:17 GMT
Considering the manner in which he became chancellor, Rishi Sunak has been exceptional during this crisis. Very impressive. Have to say he's come across pretty well. Dread to think how that smug idiot Sajid Javid would've handled this. An awful decision by him, certainly for his career. That said, agree we're actually better off with Rishi. |
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