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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 13, 2020 9:40:12 GMT
As I’ve said in the other thread, the US and U.K. capitalists governments are only interested in protecting the markets as this threatens to be much worse than the 2008 world financial crash; and with the eugenics-influenced U.K. government it’s a case of “survival of the fittest” and so be it.
Also the very nature of the capitalist society where every man is for himself has led to the alarming scenes we are seeing in supermarkets up and down the land as the fitter and healthier people panic and stock up on all manners of food medicines and soaps, rendering immunocompromised people (cancer patients, dialysis patients etc), carers for the elderly, the general elderly who may only have the ability to shop once a week, and people with chronic respiratory illnesses who'll suffer because idiots are stocking up on products they'll never use, and those who really need this stuff can't get it. What happens to the people dependant on food banks and the homeless? People on universal credit are also not able to stock up on dried or tinned food as most of the shelves have been cleared by better off, selfish gits.
But hey, the British public overwhelmingly voted for this. Makes me very proud...
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Post by eyeswideopen on Mar 13, 2020 9:41:59 GMT
LOL I'm probably going to regret asking this but how have you jumped to that conclusion based on the spread of this virus? The US and U.K. governments are playing roulette with their people in order to protect the markets as this epidemic could lead to a worse financial crash than the subprime mortgage scandal that caused the 2008 worldwide financial crash. Coronavirus highlights gap between socialist and capitalist responsesJohnson’s “dither and delay” strategy is turning us into a global outlier. In the months to come, the Tories will blame the Labour Party anyway for this, just like they did for the previous financial crash. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 13, 2020 9:43:24 GMT
“Commie China who Corbyn loves spreading the virus” etc etc etc.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 13, 2020 10:24:07 GMT
Leading health experts are now branding the British government’s response as “pathetic” - is our government right and are every other country and all the experts wrong?
“We have a superficial prime minister who has got no grasp of public health. Our lot are behaving like 19th-century colonialists playing a five-day game of cricket.” The words of Prof. John Ashton, a former regional director of public health for north-west England.
At least Nicola Sturgeon is taking the lead on this north of the border, certainly more of a responsible statesman than the clown in number 10.
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Post by Lobster on Mar 13, 2020 11:51:23 GMT
Trump and Johnson are the worst people imaginable to be playing major roles in a crisis like this. One constantly lashes out and inflames situations by blaming everything on others, the other garbles his way out of situations and is a complete coward who sees every crisis as an opportunity. And both have no conscience and are entirely motivated by greed.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 13, 2020 12:05:51 GMT
“Yes, we’re not doing the same as all other countries but we know what we’re doing” says government that includes intellectual heavyweights like Liz Truss, Grant Shapps, Priti Patel, and a foreign secretary who didn’t realise we were separated from France by water.
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Post by Forever Blue on Mar 14, 2020 1:22:25 GMT
I think the uk have got it right tbh, people complain if they do nothing but will also complain if they over react, as it stands they are going on the scientific evidence they have. anyone got any idea where I can get some bog roll ? it is a virus it will spread how many people does the flu kill every year ? lets go on the evidence and not over react. I've always been on the "let's not panic" side of the fence, but I do wonder how our science can be so different to that of our nearest neighbours Ireland, as well as Denmark, which has a similar climate to us, and to a lesser extent Norway. I don't trust the government, basically. They're shown repeatedly that they don't prioritise public health, and I feel that once again they're putting the economy ahead of people's wellbeing. It's telling that Johnson even said the idea behind banning sporting events is because of the strain on public services (which are underfunded by his government) rather than to, you know, stop people dying. I thought his speech yesterday was a complete shitshow, somehow managing to generate panic-inducing headlines while at the same time treat the subject with flippancy. I am not saying the country wont need to go into lock down at some stage because I am sure it will, the question is when and atm we are in the early stages and if you isolate the country to soon people will take risks. I went into Asda on the greyhound park today to do our monthly shop and it was ridiculous the shelfs were almost empty or empty of the essentials we needed, no toilet roll no meat on the shelfs, no rice or pasta ect. I am a health care worker and work nights so I can only do my shopping when I get time only to find this is already going beyond the ridiculous, I would rather the government put restrictions on the amount people can buy at one time. Well lets hope the people that will be looking after the sick don't starve in the mean time. |
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Post by Lobster on Mar 14, 2020 9:52:31 GMT
I've always been on the "let's not panic" side of the fence, but I do wonder how our science can be so different to that of our nearest neighbours Ireland, as well as Denmark, which has a similar climate to us, and to a lesser extent Norway. I don't trust the government, basically. They're shown repeatedly that they don't prioritise public health, and I feel that once again they're putting the economy ahead of people's wellbeing. It's telling that Johnson even said the idea behind banning sporting events is because of the strain on public services (which are underfunded by his government) rather than to, you know, stop people dying. I thought his speech yesterday was a complete shitshow, somehow managing to generate panic-inducing headlines while at the same time treat the subject with flippancy. I am not saying the country wont need to go into lock down at some stage because I am sure it will, the question is when and atm we are in the early stages and if you isolate the country to soon people will take risks. I went into Asda on the greyhound park today to do our monthly shop and it was ridiculous the shelfs were almost empty or empty of the essentials we needed, no toilet roll no meat on the shelfs, no rice or pasta ect. I am a health care worker and work nights so I can only do my shopping when I get time only to find this is already going beyond the ridiculous, I would rather the government put restrictions on the amount people can buy at one time. Well lets hope the people that will be looking after the sick don't starve in the mean time. Fair point. I think what most people can agree on is that the government isn't showing the leadership and direction it needs to. |
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Post by Lobster on Mar 14, 2020 9:55:28 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 14, 2020 10:06:16 GMT
It’s basically the same thing Lobster.
“Herd immunity” would only work if the majority of the population were already vaccinated. This is a weird social cleansing experiment by the eugenic fantasists like Cummings.
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Post by Churton Blue on Mar 14, 2020 10:20:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 12:25:29 GMT
They don’t do this with the flu every winter. Massive overreaction. Embarrassing.  |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 14, 2020 12:29:31 GMT
They don’t do this with the flu every winter. Massive overreaction. Embarrassing. Bit weird you posting on an off-topic forum of a football club you don’t support  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 13:20:13 GMT
"They don’t do this with the flu every winter.
Massive overreaction. Embarrassing" - SB, March 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 13:28:06 GMT
looks like Spain is the new Italy. All flights cancelled, not looking good at all.
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Post by avfo on Mar 14, 2020 16:07:19 GMT
Depressing I know but this site gives a fairly dependable update on the numbers per country either suffering,recovered or have died from Covid-19. The current death rate in all cases which had reached an outcome worldwide is 7% www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ |
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Post by Moltisanti on Mar 14, 2020 16:44:51 GMT
Bit weird you posting on an off-topic forum of a football club you don’t support Thought that myself. Bizzare. |
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Post by Lobster on Mar 14, 2020 19:39:14 GMT
I'm finding the situation in the shops almost more scary than the virus. Surely something needs to be done about this? The attitude seems to be to blame shoppers, but once one does it, it creates the need for others to. Supermarkets don't care that stuff is flying off the shelves, so the government needs to do something. If people don't have what they need to take care of themselves things are only going to get worse.
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Post by Lobster on Mar 15, 2020 9:13:04 GMT
It seems at best a gamble, and a gamble is the wrong decision even if it pays off in my opinion. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 15, 2020 9:30:34 GMT
8,000 private hospital beds to be rented to the NHS for £2.4million PER DAY - capitalism is failing us and the private sector is lapping up the profits
How many ventilators could Johnson buy for £2.4 million? The government's response is pitiful.
A socialist government could have requisitioned private hospitals to manage this crisis but “COMMIE CORBIN BLA BLA BLA”.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 11:36:33 GMT
£300 a day to hire a bed you could stop at the grosvenor with breakfast for less than that.
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 15, 2020 11:39:32 GMT
Every time I put the news on and see Corbyn still leading the Labour Party I think that this man has not accepted that he's the worst leader of the party in it's 120 year history and more of the same to come.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 15, 2020 11:50:43 GMT
Every time I put the news on and see Corbyn still leading the Labour Party I think that this man has not accepted that he's the worst leader of the party in it's 120 year history and more of the same to come. Very insightful input into a thread about Covid-19. |
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Post by Lobster on Mar 15, 2020 15:30:39 GMT
I bet the virus is relieved it doesn't have Donald Trump.
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Post by Churton Blue on Mar 15, 2020 19:28:32 GMT
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Post by Churton Blue on Mar 15, 2020 19:45:16 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Mar 15, 2020 20:16:22 GMT
What it does make you realise is how ridiculous it is that we've spent the last four years falling out with each other over the shape of fruit, the colour of passports and all sort of other nonsense that we didn't care about until 2015. I'm blaming both sides here by the way, and include myself.
I've said before that I thought Brexit was going to seem a real oddity in the future, but I didn't think it would be as soon as this. Think of all the time, money and effort invested in that that could've been spend elsewhere - healthcare, education, environmental protection, things that would be a bit more useful now than "taking back control" of whatever it is. And I hope plenty of people are pointing out to that absolute t**t Michael Gove that experts are quite useful after all.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 15, 2020 20:44:31 GMT
Not only that issue, but also Brexit will lead to a major delay in the availability of the vaccine currently in development - we will have to wait longer and it’ll cost more due to us pulling out of the European Medicines Agency. Meanwhile, according to a leaked Public Health England document, up to 80% will be infected with 7.9 million hospitalised, with two waves: now, dipping in June, then returning in the winter. Not sure any of us have processed the impact this will have on our lives. It’s great that we are seeing leaders with statements of perspective, inspiration and compassion. It’s just a shame they are coming from Jurgen Klopp rather than our Prime Minister. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 21:11:47 GMT
Dear God you love a bit of gossip why don't you give it a rest. We all understand your life revolves around slagging off any thing the government does. I'm beginning to wish your lot had won then we wouldn't have to put up with your tedious posts every five minutes
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 15, 2020 21:15:33 GMT
Dear God you love a bit of gossip why don't you give it a rest. We all understand your life revolves around slagging off any thing the government does. I'm beginning to wish your lot had won then we wouldn't have to put up with your tedious posts every five minutes 1. The points raised in the above post are not “gossip” but fact. 2. You don’t have to read my posts, if you feel they’re tedious then why on God’s earth are you bothering to comment on them? |
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