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Post by chesterken on Jul 19, 2020 14:37:42 GMT
Great fightback, but ultimately it comes down to being robbed by the ref... It was it would have been so easy to feel hard done by and throw in the towel at 3-0 but they battled back superbly, it’s ours next season when ever that is.
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Post by nlb17 on Jul 19, 2020 14:38:12 GMT
Showed fantastic guts to get 2 goals back, but should never have been in that position. Who reviews the referee? Shocking decision
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Post by exiled on Jul 19, 2020 14:40:09 GMT
Couldn't ask any more for effort . Referee was a joke. Could have gone either way.
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Post by CH2 on Jul 19, 2020 14:41:24 GMT
Right, that's over with, Alty weren't that great and we weren't that much better.
On the brightside it won't cost us any more money so let's get sorted for next season.
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Post by sqzl on Jul 19, 2020 14:41:57 GMT
The only real complaints are the officials.
Although I’d argue the starting eleven was far worse than when we introduced Morgan, who was quality and aggressive in every tackle. Dudley linked the game for us and was the best player on the pitch for 25 minutes. Waters did well and Hughes bagged. Would have been interesting to see them start with the lads that ended, how Burton plays ahead of anyone is beyond me.
Anyway, onwards to next season and hopefully we mount another playoff push.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 19, 2020 14:42:32 GMT
Second half team probably should’ve started, certainly Stopforth offers more energy than Burton who has sadly been poor for two full seasons now and has to go, Dudley is a very intelligent player, whilst Waters is the best set piece taker and crosser at the club but can’t get in over that waste Johnston - I’m a firm believer that a fan-owned non-league club should never be paying transfer fees and Johnston (who we also lost Mahon for) is living proof.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 14:43:04 GMT
An awful decision made it hard for us. Then again, we did get caught one on one and Mooney should have scored. We actually played better with 10 men, and after Burton went off. I've never understood what he does and his decision making on the pitch is awful.
Can't be anything but proud of the lads after that effort though.
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Post by sammychester on Jul 19, 2020 14:43:47 GMT
Onto next season preparation now. The hunger should be there and have to aim to build on this and better ourselves in key areas.
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Post by Jack on Jul 19, 2020 14:45:00 GMT
The referee has won them that game and they know it full well. Obviously, I'm bitter, but it's stating the obvious. The first 5 minutes of the second half and our performance when we went down to 10 showed they didn't really have the answers for our energy.
It's the NLN, so nothing will happen - but HOW can an official who doesn't know the rules be placed in charge of a game like this?
Players did us proud - it's just a shame they didn't get what they deserved.
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Post by oldsealandroadender on Jul 19, 2020 14:49:07 GMT
Done by the ref. Yes, a goalkeeping error for the first but the two decisions to award a penalty and a red card show that most refs in this league are not up to the job. If that was a penalty what about the challenge on Morgan in the box late on? No consistency. Personally I didn't think either were penalties but if one is then so surely the other is. No matter the whole squad did us and themselves proud, never giving up right to the end.
Now on to next season and hopefully go one better. We seem to have had success in the past in seasons following playoff failure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 14:50:33 GMT
Oh, what could have been if it wasn't for a shocking refereeing display.
Alty should consider themselves a touch fortunate.
The spirit of the lads today was first class. The rustiness maybe all too apparent but entirely to be expected. But I believe there's the nucleus of a decent outfit there
OK, disappointing especially in the manner of the defeat. But, in the circumstances, I don't think the usual post-defeat whingefest would serve any useful purpose. Let's let Bern and Jonno reflect a little and put their plans for next season into action which I'm sure they'll do pretty smartly.
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Post by rcb on Jul 19, 2020 14:52:00 GMT
A combination of the players that went off and the players that came on vastly improved the Chester team. Great performance by the team that finished the match. Shit referee, all too common in a shit league I’m afraid.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 14:52:16 GMT
Dreadful decision, very soft penalty, but once it’s given Johnston has to go - last man. Not true. If it was a foul at all (which I don't think it was), it was an accidental one, which is now supposed to be a yellow card. Very poor piece of officiating from a ref who managed to be intimidated by an empty stadium!
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Post by CH2 on Jul 19, 2020 14:52:54 GMT
Alty shouldn't present too much of a problem for York but, as we've seen, it all depends on the officials.
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Post by Jack on Jul 19, 2020 14:55:48 GMT
I think we've got to see more of Morgan next season - it's difficult to dislodge Kev Roberts but he's full of energy and has quality on the ball, too.
Thought Glendon had a good game today as well. I don't think we'll be far away next season but it's gutting at the moment - we just never seem to get the luck we need. When are we ever on the fortunate side of a refereeing decision?
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 15:01:39 GMT
I think we've got to see more of Morgan next season - it's difficult to dislodge Kev Roberts but he's full of energy and has quality on the ball, too. Thought Glendon had a good game today as well. I don't think we'll be far away next season but it's gutting at the moment - we just never seem to get the luck we need. When are we ever on the fortunate side of a refereeing decision? I try not moan too much about refs but this season I think we really have had some bad luck from them. That clown at Spennymoor for a start. Only Kettering I can remember where we had a bit of luck.
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Post by brianrooney26 on Jul 19, 2020 15:05:08 GMT
You should rightly be proud of your team today. At 3 down and a man down, you could easily have just given up. When the dust settles, you'll probably realise that it was a game played between 2 very rusty teams and there was a distinct lack of quality on show from either. The penalty was soft, yes and had it gone against us, I'd be seething too. But some of the defending on show from both sides was truly abysmal. Hopefully, York will suffer a little bit from that next week! Good luck for next season anyway.
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Post by Matt on Jul 19, 2020 15:06:27 GMT
What an effort that was, the lads never gave in. I was thinking the worst when the pen and red card happened but yet again against Alty refereeing decisions win them the game.
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Post by gone4eva on Jul 19, 2020 15:08:35 GMT
Dreadful decision, very soft penalty, but once it’s given Johnston has to go - last man. Not true. If it was a foul at all (which I don't think it was), it was an accidental one, which is now supposed to be a yellow card. Very poor piece of officiating from a ref who managed to be intimidated by an empty stadium! Would agree with this.
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Post by Anders on Jul 19, 2020 15:09:46 GMT
Dreadful decision, very soft penalty, but once it’s given Johnston has to go - last man. Not true. If it was a foul at all (which I don't think it was), it was an accidental one, which is now supposed to be a yellow card. Very poor piece of officiating from a ref who managed to be intimidated by an empty stadium! Could hear and see a fair few hangers-on who I doubt should have been there.
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Post by altrincham10 on Jul 19, 2020 15:10:32 GMT
Comisorations I have looked at the penalty decision over and over no way a penalty a huge decision that ruined the game we definitely took it for granted at 3-0 and took our foot of the gas and were deservly punished by your 2 goals.All the best for next season(apart from if we play you)
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 15:21:31 GMT
Comisorations I have looked at the penalty decision over and over no way a penalty a huge decision that ruined the game we definitely took it for granted at 3-0 and took our foot of the gas and were deservly punished by your 2 goals.All the best for next season(apart from if we play you) Thanks. I would wish you good luck but to be honest we could do with bloody Brackley or Gateshead out of this league rather than you!
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 19, 2020 15:25:50 GMT
I never fancy us to win a big one off game like that. Added to that, if there's any back luck going you know we'll be on the wrong end of it.
Eventhough I fully expected us exit at the earliest possible stage I'm still really glad we participated and the gesture our players made will not be soon forgotten.
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Post by steveo1 on Jul 19, 2020 15:26:06 GMT
Thought we done ok first half, second half superb. The ref an absolute disgrace, it’s not even a pen but also where is the double jeopardy rule implied?
The likes of Waters, Morgan, Dudley and Stopforth should have started, they have energy to burn.
100 minutes of football was always going to feel long when you haven’t played since March. We should have gone with the energy players and made changes last 20.
The management remained loyal to old guard such as Burton who can go in the bin. 2/3 decent games in a season doesn’t wash, Livesey not played a game since December and a big ask to come back in and do a job. Can’t have Livesey and Grand at Centre back together. I understand the sentiment playing JJ against his old club but his isn’t Waters and Taylor a better option down the left. Not sure how Jamie Morgan doesn’t get more time, that tackle second half was class.
Let’s hope we see a handful of departures now but certainly a good number of players to work with and build on for next season.
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Post by agl on Jul 19, 2020 15:28:14 GMT
Thought Altrincham deserved it overall. Got a bit more quality. Still not sure about the pen..he came from behind and although Mooney went down easily I see why the ref gave it. Not way a red, though. Feared the worst at three nil but credit to the boys for giving them a scare ...given the lack of preparation it was a remarkable last 20 minutes. I hope the controversy over the penalty won't be used to gloss over failings that have been apparent all season...we need a solid keeper (like Tony Thompson) a quicker centre half to play with Livesey and some more height in the midfield. Jury still out on Elliott up front but he deserves a run in the team. The managers have obviously seen something in Johnston but not shown anything yet. I assume Gary Roberts is gone and when the dust settles I hope the managers won't take the easy options when it comes to making more changes. We need some freshening up. Obviously all depends on what happens re Covid
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Post by jimmy on Jul 19, 2020 15:37:38 GMT
Referee ruined the game. Dubious penalty and never a sending off.
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Jul 19, 2020 15:42:44 GMT
Cheated out of that. Onwards and upwards though, the players deserve every credit.
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Post by tarvinblue on Jul 19, 2020 15:44:19 GMT
Thought we played well once the changes were made and with a bit more quality upfront we could have taken something at the end. The grit and determination shown when 3-0 down was first class and we were much better once Burton went off and we brought some fresh, youthful legs on. Was never a sending off and wasn't a penalty either, although can see why it was given. You would expect a ref to take their time on a call like that in order to get it right, but he couldn't wait to get his card out. Oh for VAR! Thought Altrincham had a little more quality than us and just about deserved to go through. At least we can now build towards next season, which looks like it will start in 7 weeks time. Hopefully, we can now move quickly to put together our retained list and strengthen where it's required. The spine of the side needs improving with better quality and in central position more pace. John Johnston is someone I would happily see return to Altrincham - been such a disappointment since he signed.
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Post by Imperial on Jul 19, 2020 16:02:50 GMT
For me Alty were the better side, just. The subs all played well when they came on but I agreed with the starting lineup apart from Burton, he's had a handful of decent games in the two seasons he's been with us despite turning up with a great reputation. Heard rumours that Roberts wasn't in a position to start & possibly the same with Stopforth but the latter made an appearance from the bench which suggsests he'd have been a better shout. Morgan has continued to impress & I think we'll see more of him next season. Probably need two solid central midfielders next season & look at giving Noble more game time.
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Post by highpeakblue on Jul 19, 2020 16:08:01 GMT
All you ask is a level playing field. The referee denied us that. I can take being beaten by a better team and maybe we would have been, but he ensured that we will never know.
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