Millwall fans/Racism debate

Whats the point in having forum rules if you don't enforce them?

Not sure what the problem is. This forum is primarily about Chester but also other football chat. This is a big story in the footballing world this weekend and one of those circumstances where sport and politics are linked. There is no derailing of a thread here, its a thread about an incident at a football ground that involves politics - if that's not for you then that's fine but its not the same as a match day thread getting hijacked by politics.

It’s that boring you’ve posted five times on this thread.

Fair enough, but what I meant was that politics should be kept off here where there is no relevance to a footballing thread. It was to address issues a few weeks ago of general footballing topics being hijacked by Tory vs Labour shite. This is one of those rare occasions where football and politics do link so its fine to stay here. I will try and write the rule a bit clearer though.

Not sure why he’s on here. Only ever posts negative things about the club.

Only on Devachat can a discussion about Booing taking a knee decent into petty arguments. It seems like every thread gets hijacked and turned into a slagging match, and it's nearly always the same few posters who are the ones ruining it.
It is very rare on here for a thread to stay on topic for more than a page

Don't you dare point out who it is, the mods will have this thread locked quicker than you can say Mancot Blue

apologies I saw the presidents name mentioned and misinterpreted. In my post all I was saying is nobody should kneel before any body it is embarrassing and degrading are we not all equal

But that’s the whole point of things like this and Rainbow Laces - we are not all equal.

Can't you two just block each other?!

we obviously have different opinions of what equal is.

You occasionally post some interesting views, which often challenge my own. So, I choose not to block you. But you let yourself down with the childish, narcissistic back and forth stuff with Frank. You are equally to blame.

The football authorities are being disingenuous in claiming that taking the knee is 'anti-discriminatory' rather than support for the ideology of Black Lives Matter. The salute is inextricably linked to BLM. When it was introduced they made it very clear that it was a gesture of support for that organisation, even to the extent of putting the BLM logo on the player's shirts.

BLM is a very problematic political organisation. Its very name, coupled with its angry rejection of equivalent slogans such as All Lives Matter and White Lives Matter (and of course the notorious tweet 'White Lives Don't Matter'), is divisive and discriminatory, and its underlying ideology, which states that all white people are inevitably and without exception racist and thus to be denied a voice in debate concerning ethnicity, is plain and simply racist.

It is very possible that the football authorities have come to realise this and are trying to water down their original commitment to a more general 'anti-discrimination' message, but the genie is out of the bottle, as the comments of Dion Dublin and the Black Power salutes seen on the pitch indicate. Football has got itself into a minefield and the sooner it extricates itself and gets back to more solid ground the better.