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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 3, 2021 21:04:37 GMT
They wanted full time as soon as the 3rd goal went in. They looked a beaten side for most of that 2nd half.
The early goal made a huge difference in a game like that. Defensively we looked solid yet again. Will go in to that SF with huge confidence and Wembley will be bouncing.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 3, 2021 21:06:14 GMT
Like I said early goal it would be a different game but what a performance brilliant as good an England performance I have seen for many years it's great to see us play with some flair
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Post by Lobster on Jul 3, 2021 21:08:45 GMT
Superb performance. Finally England have won a knockout game in the Euros away from Wembley!
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jul 3, 2021 21:26:33 GMT
They are a different team, when they take the shackles off. Quailty of the balls, into the box was first class.
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Post by vandycandy on Jul 3, 2021 22:02:25 GMT
So glad BBC has had the coverage of the last two England games, so far superior to ITV!!
Anyone know who has it on Wednesday?
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Post by Lobster on Jul 3, 2021 22:05:50 GMT
So glad BBC has had the coverage of the last two England games, so far superior to ITV!! Anyone know who has it on Wednesday? Back on ITV
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Post by vandycandy on Jul 3, 2021 22:07:32 GMT
So glad BBC has had the coverage of the last two England games, so far superior to ITV!! Anyone know who has it on Wednesday? Back on ITV That's a pity. I'd imagine both would show the final?
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jul 3, 2021 22:15:49 GMT
So glad BBC has had the coverage of the last two England games, so far superior to ITV!! Anyone know who has it on Wednesday? Back on ITV Banal central
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 3, 2021 22:25:47 GMT
The rest of the tournament is at Wembley and we're still involved, perfect! Would have been a huge disappointment if we'd missed out.
Denmark will be a big test but this isn't the same level of opposition that we faced at this stage in 1996 or at the World Cup three years ago. What an opportunity.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 3, 2021 22:39:13 GMT
The rest of the tournament is at Wembley and we're still involved, perfect! Would have been a huge disappointment if we'd missed out. Denmark will be a big test but this isn't the same level of opposition that we faced at this stage in 1996 or at the World Cup three years ago. What an opportunity. Yep, we're the home nation now, in effect. Southgate has to be seen as the most successful England manager since Alf Ramsey now. I would say it's not as talented a squad as we had for most of the '00s as well, he's just got them playing as a team much better than any of his recent predecessors did.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 3, 2021 23:23:58 GMT
The rest of the tournament is at Wembley and we're still involved, perfect! Would have been a huge disappointment if we'd missed out. Denmark will be a big test but this isn't the same level of opposition that we faced at this stage in 1996 or at the World Cup three years ago. What an opportunity. Yep, we're the home nation now, in effect. Southgate has to be seen as the most successful England manager since Alf Ramsey now. I would say it's not as talented a squad as we had for most of the '00s as well, he's just got them playing as a team much better than any of his recent predecessors did. Agreed. Back to back semi-finals under Southgate. All the more impressive if you compare it to our poor showing at tournaments from 2010 to 2016 (we didn't even qualify in 2008).
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Post by cameandabel on Jul 4, 2021 7:24:28 GMT
Easy for people to say things like “it was only Ukraine”, but at major tournaments from 2010 to 2016 England failed to beat nations including the USA, Algeria, Costa Rica, Russia, Slovakia and Iceland. I don’t think we won a game by more than one goal at any of those tournaments either.
Southgate has changed all that and has ended a number of barren runs including winning on penalties, knocking out the Germans and getting beyond the quarter-finals. Sven-Goran Eriksson had a talented set of players at his disposal and was paid a lot of money to get outwitted by the same manager at the quarter-final stage of three successive major tournaments, while things were even worse under McLaren, Capello and Hodgson. Southgate has taken his fair share of criticism over his team selections but the key thing was always going to be whether he delivered in tournaments and that’s what he’s doing.
But, of course, England are “bang average” and anybody who thinks otherwise knows nothing about football according to a poster in this thread…
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Post by highpeakblue on Jul 4, 2021 8:44:01 GMT
People always know better than the manager.
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Post by agl on Jul 4, 2021 8:47:05 GMT
Easy for people to say things like “it was only Ukraine”, but at major tournaments from 2010 to 2016 England failed to beat nations including the USA, Algeria, Costa Rica, Russia, Slovakia and Iceland. I don’t think we won a game by more than one goal at any of those tournaments either. Southgate has changed all that and has ended a number of barren runs including winning on penalties, knocking out the Germans and getting beyond the quarter-finals. Sven-Goran Eriksson had a talented set of players at his disposal and was paid a lot of money to get outwitted by the same manager at the quarter-final stage of three successive major tournaments, while things were even worse under McLaren, Capello and Hodgson. Southgate has taken his fair share of criticism over his team selections but the key thing was always going to be whether he delivered in tournaments and that’s what he’s doing. But, of course, England are “bang average” and anybody who thinks otherwise knows nothing about football according to a poster in this thread… On here and speaking to so called proper football fans there's double standards when it comes to club vs country. Fans are happy to see their club team win, whether or not the performance is good. They take the occasional ugly 1-0, along with the better showings. Yet with the national team there's this ridiculous notion that we can sweep the world aside in style. This is a very good England squad, with strength in depth across the pitch (possibly only Kane is irreplaceable). The manager has learned from previous tournaments and adopted a style which makes England hard to beat, but also allows gifted players to flourish when the situation demands. There seems to be a plan B and C which can be brought in at different stages during the game. I'd be surprised if we don't beat Denmark, then I'd say it's 50-50 against Spain or Italy.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 4, 2021 8:54:35 GMT
Easy for people to say things like “it was only Ukraine”, but at major tournaments from 2010 to 2016 England failed to beat nations including the USA, Algeria, Costa Rica, Russia, Slovakia and Iceland. I don’t think we won a game by more than one goal at any of those tournaments either. Also, I bet France are wishing they could say "it was only Switzerland", and Holland "it was only the Czech Republic". This along with Hungary giving all the big names in their group problems. There really are no easy games in the Euros, whereas there still are in the World Cup. I think I had a similar reaction to most when Southgate was given the job. Perhaps unfairly, he had a bit of a reputation for being an FA "yes man", but he's proved to be the perfect fit.
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Post by tonya on Jul 4, 2021 8:56:50 GMT
The thing that baffles friends/family is when I say that the Belgium manager played for Chester.
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Post by chesterken on Jul 4, 2021 9:45:51 GMT
The team are starting to believe in themselves now the only time we looked vulnerable yesterday was just after we scored the first goal we pulled everyone back behind the ball and sat in for the next 15 minutes, add to that Walker had a couple of brain fart moments which nearly gifted them a goal. But once we got back on the front foot we looked like we would score every time we attacked, let’s take that positivity into the next game we should have too much fire power for Denmark to handle.
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Post by bing on Jul 5, 2021 15:50:12 GMT
Great display - the most controlled performance I can remember from us in a long time.
Managing expectation will be the toughest thing now as most people assume we're going to brush aside Denmark. Play like we did on Saturday I think we'll be okay, but the Eriksen thing has definitely galvanised them.
By the way, I've never understood why refs blow up exactly on 90 minutes, even if it's obvious that the result has been decided. Surely their job is to blow up exactly when the match ought to finish (there should have been at least 3 mins injury time). It deprived that young Ukranian player his first cap and also deprives the paying public of an extra few minutes of entertainment.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 5, 2021 16:12:31 GMT
Great display - the most controlled performance I can remember from us in a long time. Managing expectation will be the toughest thing now as most people assume we're going to brush aside Denmark. Play like we did on Saturday I think we'll be okay, but the Eriksen thing has definitely galvanised them. By the way, I've never understood why refs blow up exactly on 90 minutes, even if it's obvious that the result has been decided. Surely their job is to blow up exactly when the match ought to finish (there should have been at least 3 mins injury time). It deprived that young Ukranian player his first cap and also deprives the paying public of an extra few minutes of entertainment. It certainly was a rarity to hear the whistle blown bang on 90 minutes. There weren't many stoppages but there were a few subs, so you'd have thought a minute at least.
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Post by waggoner on Jul 5, 2021 20:38:14 GMT
The thing that baffles friends/family is when I say that the Belgium manager played for Chester. I have told a few people that and they look at me like i'm crackers. Mind you they also think i'm mental when I state the obvious, which is; It was the making of him coming to play for us. It shaped him into the manager he is now. So by the same thinking...Without Spanish Bob Belgium would not be the side they have been over the last few years. So WE at CFC are responsible for shaping the No 1 team in the world. Can Wrexham say that? Oh gotta go the nurse is bringing the meds around
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jul 6, 2021 7:09:16 GMT
The thing that baffles friends/family is when I say that the Belgium manager played for Chester. I have told a few people that and they look at me like i'm crackers. Mind you they also think i'm mental when I state the obvious, which is; It was the making of him coming to play for us. It shaped him into the manager he is now. So by the same thinking...Without Spanish Bob Belgium would not be the side they have been over the last few years. So WE at CFC are responsible for shaping the No 1 team in the world. Can Wrexham say that? Oh gotta go the nurse is bringing the meds around Or alternatuvely, he saw how shite we were and thought ' Jesus, I better turn my life around' ( only joking)
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Post by Lobster on Jul 6, 2021 9:29:55 GMT
I have told a few people that and they look at me like i'm crackers. Mind you they also think i'm mental when I state the obvious, which is; It was the making of him coming to play for us. It shaped him into the manager he is now. So by the same thinking...Without Spanish Bob Belgium would not be the side they have been over the last few years. So WE at CFC are responsible for shaping the No 1 team in the world. Can Wrexham say that? Oh gotta go the nurse is bringing the meds around Or alternatuvely, he saw how shite we were and thought ' Jesus, I better turn my life around' ( only joking) As well as Martinez, that squad included Jonny Walters, who played in the Premier League, and David Artell, who now manages in League One. It also contained experienced lads like Bolland, Yeo, Marples and Westwood. Amazingly, none of them were captain. Must have been a hell of a player keeping the armband off them!
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 6, 2021 11:12:42 GMT
Most seem to be backing Italy to win later. Given the choice I'd probably rather face Spain in the final, if we were to get that far, but there isn't a great deal in it and I think that will be reflected tonight.
Wouldn't be surprised if either semi-final went beyond the 90.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 6, 2021 11:15:21 GMT
Same, Italy are the best team in the competition and I’d much rather face Spain if we were to make the final.
I do think Italy will win comfortably tonight, whereas tomorrow nights game is far more closer to call.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 6, 2021 21:05:45 GMT
Two really good teams playing tonight, and no bad thing for tomorrow's winner that it's gone to extra time.
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Post by chesterken on Jul 6, 2021 21:15:09 GMT
Same, Italy are the best team in the competition and I’d much rather face Spain if we were to make the final. I do think Italy will win comfortably tonight, whereas tomorrow nights game is far more closer to call. Italy paid the price for sitting back and playing for 1-0, I hope Spain do it as they are the team that are still trying to win the game without penalties.
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Post by bing on Jul 7, 2021 8:08:00 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed the match last night. Really intense from start to finish.
From an England (or Denmark) perspective, probably the best result as Spain were by far the better side, plus the match went into extra time.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 7, 2021 8:20:00 GMT
Really was a good game last night and on balance I thought Spain edged it. Must give praise to Felix Brych really good ref who got his decisions just right and allowed the game to flow, he has had a good tournament
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 7, 2021 8:45:32 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed the match last night. Really intense from start to finish. From an England (or Denmark) perspective, probably the best result as Spain were by far the better side, plus the match went into extra time. Yes a thoroughly entertaining game that. Suspect tonight will be an ugly, cagey war of attrition. Fancy Denmark to sneak it by one goal.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 7, 2021 9:36:48 GMT
Spain were the better side last night, but I think Italy have been the better team over the course of the tournament and are the tougher final opponent. Spain were rubbish in their first two matches.
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