filip
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Post by filip on Sept 20, 2021 21:28:58 GMT
Can you demonstrate why the model doesn’t work? If you’re going to make bold claims about anything you need to show your working. Here is where we are. We’ve had an unsatisfactory start to the season and people have come for the ownership of the club. I get it, you’re frustrated, we all are, but that’s football, we’ve *always* been shit save for a 3 year period after we reformed and a ‘blip’ in the 2000s before it all went breasts vertical. Thats how it is, its Chester. The ownership of the club doesn’t need to change but maybe your expectations and reality of those expectations do. The fact we couldn't compete in the NL Club almost went bust Crowds dying Struggling in the league below
Surely people gotta be concerned about this?
By what measure are we not competing? After what, 6 games from 42? Mad coincidence this, but we almost went bust at the very same time a man with lots of money who had invented his own sport in QuashballMax ™️ came trundling over the hill promising us I door surfing and other such ridiculous wonders, whilst the timing of some, but not all board resignations at the time seemed a little coincidental, I’m no conspiracy theorist but it seemed a bit sus . We’ve had 2 season canned because of Covid out of the last 3. Our finishes are 9th but missed out on the P/O on the last day, P/O and last season we were P/O again when it was Null and avoid. Thats competing. Thats always being within a shout, thats exactly the textbook definition of competing. Or do you mean competing as in throwing a load of somebody elses money at it and competing like Fylde are doing…..oh hang on, but they’re doing no better or worse than we are. Non-League Crowds across the board have been weirds this season. Some are very up, some are very down. I’d hand that across to the powers that be at the club because apart from the regular ST push there wasn’t a big ‘WELCOME BACK’ thing, and we should have done that to try and boost our gate; however a poor start means people will talk with their feet. Thats how football has worked. Thats on this Board, the FEWG which seems non existent with exception of a few well meaning but ultimately falling on deaf ears tweets to sort out. Now would you be here giving my large had we won all 6 of our matches so far and absolutely pissing the league? I ask because this sort of conversation only really ever crops up when results are going badly. Ultimately it comes down to a couple of things. Who wants to invest in this football club? Why? Through what means and motivation? If you can find someone, introduce them to the board, who can answer all 3 instead of hiding in a fictional Prosecco Bar invented in their own head then by all means go right ahead. The members of this club will decide on the merits of any attempt. If you can’t then you can carry on screaming into the void son.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 20, 2021 21:31:24 GMT
Acting like you're the one being insulted. How many times have you said "joke of a club" on this thread? Do you not think that's pretty insulting to the club we all support, the people who started it from scratch, the ones that give up their time to keep it going? I never made personal swipes at anyone but calling people idiots is bang out of order. I have not called anyone an idiot who works to keep the club going. As for the club being a joke of a club sorry but we are. We are light years away from where we thought and was promised where we would be 10 years ago. I am not posting anyone on this thread because it is pointless. I asked you a question’’ are you talking to both sides of the debate’’? And it is quite clear you are talking to the people who are against fan ownership mods are not what they used to be! As a mod maybe you should consider closing this thread off because it’s getting toxic There's an argument it should be closed but then you just get another thread saying "why was that closed?" I sense we're all getting a bit fed up so maybe we should just give this thread a rest and talk about something else.
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Post by weareblues on Sept 20, 2021 21:35:33 GMT
The fact we couldn't compete in the NL Club almost went bust Crowds dying Struggling in the league below
Surely people gotta be concerned about this?
By what measure are we not competing? After what, 6 games from 42?
Mad coincidence this, but we almost went bust at the very same time a man with lots of money who had invented his own sport in QuashballMax ™️ came trundling over the hill promising us I door surfing and other such ridiculous wonders, whilst the timing of some, but not all board resignations at the time seemed a little coincidental, I’m no conspiracy theorist but it seemed a bit sus . We’ve had 2 season canned because of Covid out of the last 3. Our finishes are 9th but missed out on the P/O on the last day, P/O and last season we were P/O again when it was Null and avoid. Thats competing. Thats always being within a shout, thats exactly the textbook definition of competing. Or do you mean competing as in throwing a load of somebody elses money at it and competing like Fylde are doing…..oh hang on, but they’re doing no better or worse than we are. Non-League Crowds across the board have been weirds this season. Some are very up, some are very down. I’d hand that across to the powers that be at the club because apart from the regular ST push there wasn’t a big ‘WELCOME BACK’ thing, and we should have done that to try and boost our gate; however a poor start means people will talk with their feet. Thats how football has worked. Thats on this Board, the FEWG which seems non existent with exception of a few well meaning but ultimately falling on deaf ears tweets to sort out. Now would you be here giving my large had we won all 6 of our matches so far and absolutely pissing the league? I ask because this sort of conversation only really ever crops up when results are going badly. Ultimately it comes down to a couple of things. Who wants to invest in this football club? Why? Through what means and motivation? If you can find someone, introduce them to the board, who can answer all 3 instead of hiding in a fictional Prosecco Bar invented in their own head then by all means go right ahead. The members of this club will decide on the merits of any attempt. If you can’t then you can carry on screaming into the void son. I said the National League not this league even if we did go up this season we still wouldn't be able to compete with the amount of money there is in the NL
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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 20, 2021 21:38:22 GMT
I never made personal swipes at anyone but calling people idiots is bang out of order. I have not called anyone an idiot who works to keep the club going. As for the club being a joke of a club sorry but we are. We are light years away from where we thought and was promised where we would be 10 years ago. I am not posting anyone on this thread because it is pointless. I asked you a question’’ are you talking to both sides of the debate’’? And it is quite clear you are talking to the people who are against fan ownership mods are not what they used to be! As a mod maybe you should consider closing this thread off because it’s getting toxic There's an argument it should be closed but then you just get another thread saying "why was that closed?" I sense we're all getting a bit fed up so maybe we should just give this thread a rest and talk about something else. If you close it down you simply play into the hands of the anti fan ownership brigade who need to say what they do want rather than criticise the current model.
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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 20, 2021 21:42:34 GMT
By what measure are we not competing? After what, 6 games from 42?
Mad coincidence this, but we almost went bust at the very same time a man with lots of money who had invented his own sport in QuashballMax ™️ came trundling over the hill promising us I door surfing and other such ridiculous wonders, whilst the timing of some, but not all board resignations at the time seemed a little coincidental, I’m no conspiracy theorist but it seemed a bit sus . We’ve had 2 season canned because of Covid out of the last 3. Our finishes are 9th but missed out on the P/O on the last day, P/O and last season we were P/O again when it was Null and avoid. Thats competing. Thats always being within a shout, thats exactly the textbook definition of competing. Or do you mean competing as in throwing a load of somebody elses money at it and competing like Fylde are doing…..oh hang on, but they’re doing no better or worse than we are. Non-League Crowds across the board have been weirds this season. Some are very up, some are very down. I’d hand that across to the powers that be at the club because apart from the regular ST push there wasn’t a big ‘WELCOME BACK’ thing, and we should have done that to try and boost our gate; however a poor start means people will talk with their feet. Thats how football has worked. Thats on this Board, the FEWG which seems non existent with exception of a few well meaning but ultimately falling on deaf ears tweets to sort out. Now would you be here giving my large had we won all 6 of our matches so far and absolutely pissing the league? I ask because this sort of conversation only really ever crops up when results are going badly. Ultimately it comes down to a couple of things. Who wants to invest in this football club? Why? Through what means and motivation? If you can find someone, introduce them to the board, who can answer all 3 instead of hiding in a fictional Prosecco Bar invented in their own head then by all means go right ahead. The members of this club will decide on the merits of any attempt. If you can’t then you can carry on screaming into the void son. I said the National League not this league even if we did go up this season we still wouldn't be able to compete with the amount of money there is in the NL Fair enough point of view. How much per season would you want a private owner to put in per season to make us competitive ? And for how many seasons ?
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Post by banksy on Sept 20, 2021 21:48:51 GMT
Can you demonstrate why the model doesn’t work? If you’re going to make bold claims about anything you need to show your working. Here is where we are. We’ve had an unsatisfactory start to the season and people have come for the ownership of the club. I get it, you’re frustrated, we all are, but that’s football, we’ve *always* been shit save for a 3 year period after we reformed and a ‘blip’ in the 2000s before it all went breasts vertical. Thats how it is, its Chester. The ownership of the club doesn’t need to change but maybe your expectations and reality of those expectations do. The fact we couldn't compete in the NL Club almost went bust Crowds dying Struggling in the league below
Surely people gotta be concerned about this?
Just to point out that prior to fans coming together to save football in the City, it was immediately following your first three points there..we couldn't compete under SV, crowds dwindled, and the club went bust. The fourth point would've immediately followed had our last private owner remained in place and actually dragged the club into 2010-11, and far further down the pyramid. It's simple really, would we speak to someone who offered a bright future for our club to be part of it? Yes of course we would. So far, those people have either turned out to be a red herring or pretty much non existent. We all want the best for our club and less than a year ago were actually in with a good chance of Returning to the National League. Coming together as one is the way To drive this club forward, but those happy to continue to rip it to shreds should ask themselves what would they do if it weren't here at all to complain about? There are a number of people putting in massive amounts of hours for their club, keeping it as transparent more than most clubs will ever be. Just browse through our last 30 years history and you'll see just why the feelings of not being privately owned are high, bar the odd season that was followed immediately by turmoil. One thing you cannot accuse us of is a lack of passion and ambition, and if any private owners had offered us the same then we would have talked to them by now, but the simple fact is that only the one turned out to be a non starter given the vulture like attempt to wrestle the club from the fans during a pandemic. Like the Hashtag says we're in it together, and that's how it should be. I've actually been questioning myself on whether to look to do another 3 years, but I truly believe that we have a board that is working its Bollocks off for something to all love, in the hardest of times and my ambition of league football is still there (along with a trip to Wembley), and I want my kids to be proud of our club in the future too, not one that just sold out to another unscrupulous owner. One Voice, One Passion. Jeff
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Post by oldsealandroadender on Sept 20, 2021 21:54:35 GMT
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Post by weareblues on Sept 20, 2021 21:56:22 GMT
The fact we couldn't compete in the NL Club almost went bust Crowds dying Struggling in the league below
Surely people gotta be concerned about this?
Just to point out that prior to fans coming together to save football in the City, it was immediately following your first three points there..we couldn't compete under SV, crowds dwindled, and the club went bust. The fourth point would've immediately followed had our last private owner remained in place and actually dragged the club into 2010-11, and far further down the pyramid. It's simple really, would we speak to someone who offered a bright future for our club to be part of it? Yes of course we would. So far, those people have either turned out to be a red herring or pretty much non existent. We all want the best for our club and less than a year ago were actually in with a good chance of Returning to the National League. Coming together as one is the way To drive this club forward, but those happy to continue to rip it to shreds should ask themselves what would they do if it weren't here at all to complain about? There are a number of people putting in massive amounts of hours for their club, keeping it as transparent more than most clubs will ever be. Just browse through our last 30 years history and you'll see just why the feelings of not being privately owned are high, bar the odd season that was followed immediately by turmoil. One thing you cannot accuse us of is a lack of passion and ambition, and if any private owners had offered us the same then we would have talked to them by now, but the simple fact is that only the one turned out to be a non starter given the vulture like attempt to wrestle the club from the fans during a pandemic. Like the Hashtag says we're in it together, and that's how it should be. I've actually been questioning myself on whether to look to do another 3 years, but I truly believe that we have a board that is working its Bollocks off for something to all love, in the hardest of times and my ambition of league football is still there (along with a trip to Wembley), and I want my kids to be proud of our club in the future too, not one that just sold out to another unscrupulous owner. One Voice, One Passion. Jeff Respect your points but surely there’s concerns across the board? Where do you see the club next 5-10 years?
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Post by highpeakblue on Sept 20, 2021 21:57:26 GMT
The fact we couldn't compete in the NL Club almost went bust Crowds dying Struggling in the league below
Surely people gotta be concerned about this?
Just to point out that prior to fans coming together to save football in the City, it was immediately following your first three points there..we couldn't compete under SV, crowds dwindled, and the club went bust. The fourth point would've immediately followed had our last private owner remained in place and actually dragged the club into 2010-11, and far further down the pyramid. It's simple really, would we speak to someone who offered a bright future for our club to be part of it? Yes of course we would. So far, those people have either turned out to be a red herring or pretty much non existent. We all want the best for our club and less than a year ago were actually in with a good chance of Returning to the National League. Coming together as one is the way To drive this club forward, but those happy to continue to rip it to shreds should ask themselves what would they do if it weren't here at all to complain about? There are a number of people putting in massive amounts of hours for their club, keeping it as transparent more than most clubs will ever be. Just browse through our last 30 years history and you'll see just why the feelings of not being privately owned are high, bar the odd season that was followed immediately by turmoil. One thing you cannot accuse us of is a lack of passion and ambition, and if any private owners had offered us the same then we would have talked to them by now, but the simple fact is that only the one turned out to be a non starter given the vulture like attempt to wrestle the club from the fans during a pandemic. Like the Hashtag says we're in it together, and that's how it should be. I've actually been questioning myself on whether to look to do another 3 years, but I truly believe that we have a board that is working its Bollocks off for something to all love, in the hardest of times and my ambition of league football is still there (along with a trip to Wembley), and I want my kids to be proud of our club in the future too, not one that just sold out to another unscrupulous owner. One Voice, One Passion. Jeff And I take my hat off to you. I don't really have the business experience myself, but those who put their heads above the parapet deserve our support.
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Post by highpeakblue on Sept 20, 2021 21:59:37 GMT
Weare blues, you really need to stop asking other people the same questions and answer some of the questions that have been put to you.
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Post by weareblues on Sept 20, 2021 22:00:50 GMT
Weare blues, you really need to stop asking other people the same questions and answer some of the questions that have been put to you. What ‘why don’t you find the Investment’ or ‘sign up to the board ‘ etc etc ??
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Post by weareblues on Sept 20, 2021 22:04:22 GMT
I said the National League not this league even if we did go up this season we still wouldn't be able to compete with the amount of money there is in the NL Fair enough point of view. How much per season would you want a private owner to put in per season to make us competitive ? And for how many seasons ? Realistically your gonna need a 600-900k budget do your gonna be competitive in the NL ideally if we got promoted and investment I’d like to see us pushing for play offs with in 3 years More chance of us winning at markse then any of that happening though
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Post by highpeakblue on Sept 20, 2021 22:04:43 GMT
Weare blues, you really need to stop asking other people the same questions and answer some of the questions that have been put to you. What ‘why don’t you find the Investment’ or ‘sign up to the board ‘ etc etc ?? No, just read what Churton Blue has asked you.
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Post by weareblues on Sept 20, 2021 22:07:35 GMT
Regardless surely it’s good for the board people are asking questions Might give them more motivation on where we can improve as a club
After the shambles we’ve been through last couple years, amount money fans have put in and little we’ve got back from it I don’t see the issues with questions being asked
anyway roll on tomorrow crucial game
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 20, 2021 22:08:32 GMT
Regardless surely it’s good for the board people are asking questions Might give them more motivation on where we can improve as a club After the shambles we’ve been through last couple years, amount money fans have put in and little we’ve got back from it I don’t see the issues with questions being asked anyway roll on tomorrow crucial game Lol so the current club board are now to blame for Covid-affected seasons being cut short. Jesus.
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Post by noddy on Sept 20, 2021 22:09:16 GMT
When does the capping come into play at National League and our level, and have the amounts been specified? I know teams will find ways around it but just curious.
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Post by weareblues on Sept 20, 2021 22:11:45 GMT
Regardless surely it’s good for the board people are asking questions Might give them more motivation on where we can improve as a club After the shambles we’ve been through last couple years, amount money fans have put in and little we’ve got back from it I don’t see the issues with questions being asked anyway roll on tomorrow crucial game Lol so the current club board are now to blame for Covid-affected seasons being cut short. Jesus. I’m on about every season since the 14-15 season
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Post by banksy on Sept 20, 2021 22:12:37 GMT
Well to answer your question weareblues, firstly, we needed to stabilise following 2017-18 which we have done.
We've had several challenges off the field over the last few seasons, so guiding the ship through the choppy waters was the first priority, floods, Murphy takeover farce, covid, you name it we had to deal with it.
All that whilst still trying to build a promotion challenge, and the bringing in of a management team who had achieved just that, and have got closer year on year in achieving it again.
Naturally we want to achieve that promotion still whilst building commercially off the pitch too, as well as increasing the fanbase wherever possible, and strengthening the club in the Community as well as through its own membership.
Contrary to earlier posts, promotion back to the football league was never promised, how could it be?
What we tried to initially was work to a 5 and 10 year plan. We achieved the return to Conference status within the 5 years but not all plans come to fruition, and in truth the club ran quicker on the pitch than off it, but we always committed to having a club competing at the highest level possible whilst maintaining sustainability, sometimes that came into question and that's why the ship needed to be steadied 3 years ago.
We would all love to return to the football league, Hell that's what we all want, but look at the club up the road, don't you you think that was their plan 14 years ago? Plans don't always go...er to plan, and you have to regroup and go back to basics.
I would like to think within 5 years we'll have achieved our aim of returning to the National League and competing for a place in the EFL, but that's just my ambition, as I won't speak for others.
It would be great to say a return to the football league within 10 years and We should never in my view let go of that ambition, but it's going to be a long journey but it's still achievable.
Life isn't without its challenges and football is exactly the same. All we ask is that you help support us through those challenges.
Jeff
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Post by avfo on Sept 20, 2021 22:15:01 GMT
Just for clarity Hereford are not fan owned and Darlington are 70% fan owned. In fairness you could add Southport, Kidderminster and Boston to the privately owned list. You sure about hereford ? Very sure the supporters trust owns majority share Smoke and mirrors. HUST can appoint a maximum of 3 directors to the club's board which means the original 'bennys' will, for as long as they wish, hold an inbuilt majority on the board. In addition, a majority of board members is needed to approve anyone nominated for the board - by the trust or anyone else. The trust have indeed purchased the largest single shareholding,so in effect they have handed over a couple of hundred thousand pounds in return for very little - no say on current or future plans, cannot remove other board members etc.
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Post by weareblues on Sept 20, 2021 22:20:01 GMT
Well to answer your question weareblues, firstly, we needed to stabilise following 2017-18 which we have done. We've had several challenges off the field over the last few seasons, so guiding the ship through the choppy waters was the first priority, floods, Murphy takeover farce, covid, you name it we had to deal with it. All that whilst still trying to build a promotion challenge, and the bringing in of a management team who had achieved just that, and have got closer year on year in achieving it again. Naturally we want to achieve that promotion still whilst building commercially off the pitch too, as well as increasing the fanbase wherever possible, and strengthening the club in the Community as well as through its own membership. Contrary to earlier posts, promotion back to the football league was never promised, how could it be? What we tried to initially was work to a 5 and 10 year plan. We achieved the return to Conference status within the 5 years but not all plans come to fruition, and in truth the club ran quicker on the pitch than off it, but we always committed to having a club competing at the highest level possible whilst maintaining sustainability, sometimes that came into question and that's why the ship needed to be steadied 3 years ago. We would all love to return to the football league, Hell that's what we all want, but look at the club up the road, don't you you think that was their plan 14 years ago? Plans don't always go...er to plan, and you have to regroup and go back to basics. I would like to think within 5 years we'll have achieved our aim of returning to the National League and competing for a place in the EFL, but that's just my ambition, as I won't speak for others. It would be great to say a return to the football league within 10 years and We should never in my view let go of that ambition, but it's going to be a long journey but it's still achievable. Life isn't without its challenges and football is exactly the same. All we ask is that you help support us through those challenges. Jeff Some fair points but it’s the crowds I fear if we don’t have a cup run or go up this season I can see us really struggling to raise money for the budget again Hope I’m proved wrong and everything works out and the current model is successful but I sadly can’t see it being the case
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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 20, 2021 22:25:35 GMT
Fair enough point of view. How much per season would you want a private owner to put in per season to make us competitive ? And for how many seasons ? Realistically your gonna need a 600-900k budget do your gonna be competitive in the NL ideally if we got promoted and investment I’d like to see us pushing for play offs with in 3 years More chance of us winning at markse then any of that happening though Thanks for the answer. Currently 150k being put in by current owners not including gate money plus about 100k worth of volunteer work. So you are looking for somebody to put in 500k per season minimum. Do you want them to own 100% of the club and the Stadium ? SV ‘ put in’ an average of 650k for 8 seasons just to give some context. He owned all the club and wanted the Stadium as did Mr Murphy plus a rather large chunk of surrounding land. He offered the Council £1 for the lot !
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Post by whitey on Sept 20, 2021 22:28:23 GMT
Really not sure what those wanting investment want or think it would achieve! If we went out and bought a few £200K players and were sixth in the NL we'd still be looking at gates of 2,000 - 3,000 unless a large away following. A lot of Wrexham envy going on and yes their gates have gone up massively but they have a much larger catchment area than us and the publicity has also obviously helped, they are also very fickle so let's see where it ends up! Honestly feel sorry for the likes of Jeff who saved this football club and will never forget the great moments it has given me and my lads since reformation. Don't like it then move on. UTFS
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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 20, 2021 22:31:38 GMT
You sure about hereford ? Very sure the supporters trust owns majority share Smoke and mirrors. HUST can appoint a maximum of 3 directors to the club's board which means the original 'bennys' will, for as long as they wish, hold an inbuilt majority on the board. In addition, a majority of board members is needed to approve anyone nominated for the board - by the trust or anyone else. The trust have indeed purchased the largest single shareholding,so in effect they have handed over a couple of hundred thousand pounds in return for very little - no say on current or future plans, cannot remove other board members etc. Thanks AVFO. What percentage to the HUST own ?
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Post by weareblues on Sept 20, 2021 22:36:10 GMT
Realistically your gonna need a 600-900k budget do your gonna be competitive in the NL ideally if we got promoted and investment I’d like to see us pushing for play offs with in 3 years More chance of us winning at markse then any of that happening though Thanks for the answer. Currently 150k being put in by current owners not including gate money plus about 100k worth of volunteer work. So you are looking for somebody to put in 500k per season minimum. Do you want them to own 100% of the club and the Stadium ? SV ‘ put in’ an average of 650k for 8 seasons just to give some context. He owned all the club and wanted the Stadium as did Mr Murphy plus a rather large chunk of surrounding land. He offered the Council £1 for the lot ! The stadiums a tricky one really feel the council hold us back a lot really so much more could be done with that ground Only got to look at macc’s set up and as mad as it sounds they’re way ahead of us
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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 20, 2021 22:44:49 GMT
Thanks for the answer. Currently 150k being put in by current owners not including gate money plus about 100k worth of volunteer work. So you are looking for somebody to put in 500k per season minimum. Do you want them to own 100% of the club and the Stadium ? SV ‘ put in’ an average of 650k for 8 seasons just to give some context. He owned all the club and wanted the Stadium as did Mr Murphy plus a rather large chunk of surrounding land. He offered the Council £1 for the lot ! The stadiums a tricky one really feel the council hold us back a lot really so much more could be done with that ground Only got to look at macc’s set up and as mad as it sounds they’re way ahead of us How do you think CWAC hold us back and what do you think could be done with the ground ? CWAC have contributed over 400k to the KGV project.
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Post by avfo on Sept 20, 2021 22:48:21 GMT
Smoke and mirrors. HUST can appoint a maximum of 3 directors to the club's board which means the original 'bennys' will, for as long as they wish, hold an inbuilt majority on the board. In addition, a majority of board members is needed to approve anyone nominated for the board - by the trust or anyone else. The trust have indeed purchased the largest single shareholding,so in effect they have handed over a couple of hundred thousand pounds in return for very little - no say on current or future plans, cannot remove other board members etc. Thanks AVFO. What percentage to the HUST own ? I think it is just over 40% - edit, 46% apparently
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Sept 20, 2021 23:50:13 GMT
Thanks for the answer. Currently 150k being put in by current owners not including gate money plus about 100k worth of volunteer work. So you are looking for somebody to put in 500k per season minimum. Do you want them to own 100% of the club and the Stadium ? SV ‘ put in’ an average of 650k for 8 seasons just to give some context. He owned all the club and wanted the Stadium as did Mr Murphy plus a rather large chunk of surrounding land. He offered the Council £1 for the lot ! The stadiums a tricky one really feel the council hold us back a lot really so much more could be done with that ground Only got to look at macc’s set up and as mad as it sounds they’re way ahead of us I live with 2 volunteers. They work normal jobs, have household chores to do, relationships etc to maintain and then have to start their CFC work. Neither of them get to see games (one has match day duties the other is at work), they do it for a sense of pride in their local club. There is CFC stuff all over the house. They spend money on items to carry out their work and never claim expenses. They are as professional, diligent and work as hard if not harder than any paid member of staff. They both read this site. They both read the "joke of a club", "other clubs laugh at us", "dying a death" etc comments you make on here and you can bet, like Jeff and Churton Blue Mike above, a little bit of them dies inside. Before you type, think about what you are saying. We're not Wxm, if someone doesn't like it there they can hire someone else. If one of the above decides your toxic post when you are having another paddy because we have lost a game is enough for them, they leave a massive gap. There is currently no white knight Hollywood type lining us up. As two board members have told you, when one arises they will let you know and (if you've paid your affordable to all subs of £12) you can vote on their proposal. I'm not asking you to join the board. I'm not asking you to join CFU. I'm not even asking you to go out and rattle a bucket. I'm asking you to count to ten before you post. If more people like Jeff and Mike walk away Chester FC will cease to exist. Forever. Think about that.
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Post by everhopeful on Sept 21, 2021 5:09:56 GMT
The stadiums a tricky one really feel the council hold us back a lot really so much more could be done with that ground Only got to look at macc’s set up and as mad as it sounds they’re way ahead of us I live with 2 volunteers. They work normal jobs, have household chores to do, relationships etc to maintain and then have to start their CFC work. Neither of them get to see games (one has match day duties the other is at work), they do it for a sense of pride in their local club. There is CFC stuff all over the house. They spend money on items to carry out their work and never claim expenses. They are as professional, diligent and work as hard if not harder than any paid member of staff. They both read this site. They both read the "joke of a club", "other clubs laugh at us", "dying a death" etc comments you make on here and you can bet, like Jeff and Churton Blue Mike above, a little bit of them dies inside.
Before you type, think about what you are saying. We're not Wxm, if someone doesn't like it there they can hire someone else. If one of the above decides your toxic post when you are having another paddy because we have lost a game is enough for them, they leave a massive gap. There is currently no white knight Hollywood type lining us up. As two board members have told you, when one arises they will let you know and (if you've paid your affordable to all subs of £12) you can vote on their proposal. I'm not asking you to join the board. I'm not asking you to join CFU. I'm not even asking you to go out and rattle a bucket. I'm asking you to count to ten before you post. If more people like Jeff and Mike walk away Chester FC will cease to exist. Forever. Think about that.The wisest and most sensible post in this thread, if not the whole board. It should also be the most thought provoking. If you really can't disagree with, or ask a question of, someone like NHNP describes above without inserting a snide remark, or in some cases, being offensive, then please, like he said, count to ten and either say it politely or walk away. If you don't, then the volunteers will, and you will have helped kill our beloved Blues or Yellows.
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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 21, 2021 8:36:39 GMT
In the spirit of trying to be constructive there are two specific areas where the club needs to make progress.
Firstly commercial partners. The club have been very lucky to have had significant financial support from MBNA and Swettenham Chemists since 2010.We really need 2 or 3 similar partners who are prepared like them to work with the club in the long term. Despite a lot of time and effort being put in recently it is proving a struggle to find companies of a similar nature. Get in touch if you are aware of one who maybe interested !
Secondly engaging with the sports minded public in Chester. The KGV project will be a massive help in doing this given the amount of people who will use it each week. The project also illustrates how it is possible to work with partners to achieve things. The Football Foundation have provided £1.1 million, CWAC 400k, the Westminster Foundation 200k, Avenue Services 100k and Power To Change 125k towards the KGV project.Wether people like the idea or not the key to building the support base is to get those who follow a Premiership Club to make Chester their second team. It is obviously very difficult to do this without things going better on the pitch than they are now !
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 21, 2021 9:36:00 GMT
In the spirit of trying to be constructive there are two specific areas where the club needs to make progress. Firstly commercial partners. The club have been very lucky to have had significant financial support from MBNA and Swettenham Chemists since 2010.We really need 2 or 3 similar partners who are prepared like them to work with the club in the long term. Despite a lot of time and effort being put in recently it is proving a struggle to find companies of a similar nature. Get in touch if you are aware of one who maybe interested ! Secondly engaging with the sports minded public in Chester. The KGV project will be a massive help in doing this given the amount of people who will use it each week. The project also illustrates how it is possible to work with partners to achieve things. The Football Foundation have provided £1.1 million, CWAC 400k, the Westminster Foundation 200k, Avenue Services 100k and Power To Change 125k towards the KGV project.Wether people like the idea or not the key to building the support base is to get those who follow a Premiership Club to make Chester their second team. It is obviously very difficult to do this without things going better on the pitch than they are now ! Another idea would be to give a reduced entrance fee to season ticket holders of other clubs. My mate is a season ticket holder at Stoke City and he has been a few times but £17 is a bit too expensive for him to come, when he is also shelling out for the Stoke games.
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