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Post by eyeswideopen on Sept 22, 2021 14:48:16 GMT
Savage, and a 4G pitch. Buxton have the same (not Savage, obviously). A lot of money has gone into both. It helps that Savage lives locally and his kid is in the academy. Buxton doesn't add up to me, some big names (Jamie Ward, London Meikle etc) plus money spent elsewhere on crowds of 400.A big gamble! On about the bar facilities they have there very impressive, Realistically it’s something we need to be aiming to do if we want to progress and find ways to bring in more income Given limited resources, would you spend your money on a new bar or new players?
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 22, 2021 16:39:56 GMT
I see Fleetwood Town, whose owner Andy Pilley is in court over fraud and money laundering charges, have made losses of over £20m and owe companies controlled by Mr Pilley over £21m.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 22, 2021 17:06:02 GMT
I see Fleetwood Town, whose owner Andy Pilley is in court over fraud and money laundering charges, have made losses of over £20m and owe companies controlled by Mr Pilley over £21m. Perhaps he might be interested in taking a control interest here, to satisfy the cravings for big money backers from those that just love to get shafted.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 22, 2021 17:43:52 GMT
I see Fleetwood Town, whose owner Andy Pilley is in court over fraud and money laundering charges, have made losses of over £20m and owe companies controlled by Mr Pilley over £21m. He’s suing Cheshire West and Chester Council for £10m for damages. According to the Chester Standard: “The case is in response to what Mr Pilley believes is a long-running personal vendetta against him by the council’s Trading Standards team, who are investigating a number of individuals connected to his energy companies.”
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Post by bluejay on Sept 22, 2021 19:04:33 GMT
You ask these questions like everyone should know the answer to them. When in doubt offer a question where you know that anybody would struggle to answer. Another one who is clearly happy with NLN football and no crowds. You guys are proposing the change of ownership model, it’s only fair you back up the proposals with the detail. Just shouting: “WE NEED CHANGE! THIS ISN’T WORKING” without telling us how it should be changed, how it will work when it is changed etc doesn’t really mean anything. It’s just vacuous sound bites. Why are you still engaging with them? 14 pages and the penny still hasn't dropped.
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Post by weareblues on Sept 22, 2021 19:12:16 GMT
You guys are proposing the change of ownership model, it’s only fair you back up the proposals with the detail. Just shouting: “WE NEED CHANGE! THIS ISN’T WORKING” without telling us how it should be changed, how it will work when it is changed etc doesn’t really mean anything. It’s just vacuous sound bites. Why are you still engaging with them? 14 pages and the penny still hasn't dropped. Good crowd wasnt it last night, Totally not concerning considering crowds are our main source of income
Surely you've got concerns about the way the clubs heading? Less then a thousand home fans for a FA Cup game is piss poor espeically against a side like darlington
If board want this model to work then we need to be doing alot more match advertisement and be looking at ways to get the crowds back
Least we got the win and the prize money will benefit us massively
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 19:14:30 GMT
I would say there is literally no millionaire willing to take us on at all. Where do we think this person would come from? They would have to be a hardcore fan to take it on and be willing to lose 500k + a year minimum to get us in the football league.
Go on name me some local millionaires, who you’d approach? Someone who has a prior interest in the club. PLEASE DONT SAY MICHAEL OWEN.
Our best chance is one of us lot on here win the euro millions and gift the club a lump sum.
I’d give us £1mil to renovate the stadium and area, then £500k to invest in squad and youth. The rest is going on a yacht 😂😂
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Post by bluejay on Sept 22, 2021 19:17:37 GMT
Why are you still engaging with them? 14 pages and the penny still hasn't dropped. Good crowd wasnt it last night, Totally not concerning considering crowds are our main source of income
Surely you've got concerns about the way the clubs heading? Less then a thousand home fans for a FA Cup game is piss poor espeically against a side like darlington
If board want this model to work then we need to be doing alot more match advertisement and be looking at ways to get the crowds back
Least we got the win and the prize money will benefit us massively
Of course it hurts to see such small crowds, but again: There Is Currently No Viable Alternative. And if it wasn't for the fans, volunteers and board there would be no club to argue over.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 22, 2021 20:04:02 GMT
Good crowd wasnt it last night, Totally not concerning considering crowds are our main source of income
Surely you've got concerns about the way the clubs heading? Less then a thousand home fans for a FA Cup game is piss poor espeically against a side like darlington
If board want this model to work then we need to be doing alot more match advertisement and be looking at ways to get the crowds back
Least we got the win and the prize money will benefit us massively
Of course it hurts to see such small crowds, but again: There Is Currently No Viable Alternative. And if it wasn't for the fans, volunteers and board there would be no club to argue over. Spot on
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Post by waggoner on Sept 22, 2021 21:50:15 GMT
I would say there is literally no millionaire willing to take us on at all. Where do we think this person would come from? They would have to be a hardcore fan to take it on and be willing to lose 500k + a year minimum to get us in the football league. Go on name me some local millionaires, who you’d approach? Someone who has a prior interest in the club. PLEASE DONT SAY MICHAEL OWEN. Our best chance is one of us lot on here win the euro millions and gift the club a lump sum. I’d give us £1mil to renovate the stadium and area, then £500k to invest in squad and youth. The rest is going on a yacht 😂😂 the remark about someone needing to pump in 500k a year to get us into the league shows where we are and where we are heading. So you reckon that we would need a budget of around 800k? What's our budget now? 250k? We will always be a part time club run by amateurs
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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 22, 2021 22:06:13 GMT
I would say there is literally no millionaire willing to take us on at all. Where do we think this person would come from? They would have to be a hardcore fan to take it on and be willing to lose 500k + a year minimum to get us in the football league. Go on name me some local millionaires, who you’d approach? Someone who has a prior interest in the club. PLEASE DONT SAY MICHAEL OWEN. Our best chance is one of us lot on here win the euro millions and gift the club a lump sum. I’d give us £1mil to renovate the stadium and area, then £500k to invest in squad and youth. The rest is going on a yacht 😂😂 the remark about someone needing to pump in 500k a year to get us into the league shows where we are and where we are heading. So you reckon that we would need a budget of around 800k? What's our budget now? 250k? We will always be a part time club run by amateurs Do you think we could find someone willing to lose 500k per season for 10 years then ? I assume you do otherwise what is the purpose of your post ?
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Post by league2 on Sept 22, 2021 22:06:44 GMT
our budget now is nowhere near 250000 i believe it's one of the lowest in this league
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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 22, 2021 22:18:47 GMT
our budget now is nowhere near 250000 i believe it's one of the lowest in this league Where does your information come from ?
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Post by noddy on Sept 22, 2021 22:24:35 GMT
our budget now is nowhere near 250000 i believe it's one of the lowest in this league I would be surprised if we were a bottom 8 budget.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 22, 2021 23:05:04 GMT
I would say there is literally no millionaire willing to take us on at all. Where do we think this person would come from? They would have to be a hardcore fan to take it on and be willing to lose 500k + a year minimum to get us in the football league. Go on name me some local millionaires, who you’d approach? Someone who has a prior interest in the club. PLEASE DONT SAY MICHAEL OWEN. Our best chance is one of us lot on here win the euro millions and gift the club a lump sum. I’d give us £1mil to renovate the stadium and area, then £500k to invest in squad and youth. The rest is going on a yacht 😂😂 the remark about someone needing to pump in 500k a year to get us into the league shows where we are and where we are heading. So you reckon that we would need a budget of around 800k? What's our budget now? 250k? We will always be a part time club run by amateurs And the alternative is what? I much doubt there are too many generous benefactors knocking around willing to lose 500k per annum for zero gain. Investors wouldnt touch it because there is unlikely to be any gain. We dont own the ground so there is nothing to sell or develop. And no profit to be made.
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Post by weareblues on Sept 23, 2021 5:59:33 GMT
our budget now is nowhere near 250000 i believe it's one of the lowest in this league I would be surprised if we were a bottom 8 budget. I wouldn’t there’s a lot of money in this league
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Post by devacfc2010 on Sept 23, 2021 6:02:58 GMT
It's a catch 22 position, the only real way we are going to attract more fans and make more ticket revenue is climbing the leagues with possibly a cup run to raise the profile of the club. The other difficulty is peeling people off their sofas watching soccer Saturday to come down and watch their local side but that's a problem most teams outside the premier league have. Although the Chester PR team do an excellent job of advertising for the club.
We made it to mid table in the conference being fan owned that shows it is possible with the right players and manager(s).
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Post by dc2cfc on Sept 23, 2021 7:43:40 GMT
A few quick ideas that could be implemented to potentially help crowds would be -
- Twitter/Facebook (Like/Retweet/Share) the clubs post for the upcoming home game (every home game) to Win Two tickets or Family ticket etc.. - Email advertising for each home game from the email database, advertising game, buy tickets online etc (Not too sure what the current gdpr bit is though) - Student Target area, offer them a deal (Match Ticket + Pint for £?) I think they will just start to be moving in now
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Sept 23, 2021 7:44:47 GMT
our budget now is nowhere near 250000 i believe it's one of the lowest in this league I am reliably informed it is over 300k this year. The club managed it's finances well over COVID, and did well with the Build A Budget scheme. If anyone is reading this with 500k a year to blow on a Non League club with no assets can they please email info@chesterfc.com where one of the "amateurs" will get back to you ASAP.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Sept 23, 2021 7:45:40 GMT
A few quick ideas that could be implemented to potentially help crowds would be - - Twitter/Facebook (Like/Retweet/Share) the clubs post for the upcoming home game (every home game) to Win Two tickets or Family ticket etc.. - Email advertising for each home game from the email database, advertising game, buy tickets online etc (Not too sure what the current gdpr bit is though) - Student Target area, offer them a deal (Match Ticket + Pint for £?) I think they will just start to be moving in now Would agree with all 3. Can all be done easily.
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Post by brianfelshaw on Sept 23, 2021 8:23:19 GMT
our budget now is nowhere near 250000 i believe it's one of the lowest in this league I am reliably informed it is over 300k this year. The club managed it's finances well over COVID, and did well with the Build A Budget scheme. If anyone is reading this with 500k a year to blow on a Non League club with no assets can they please email info@chesterfc.com where one of the "amateurs" will get back to you ASAP. I wonder if the sales of Taylor and Goodwin also played a part? That’s surely got to be the way forward, sign unwanted players elsewhere, develop them then sell them on as well as doing the same with our own youth team players. One a season would likely provide an increase on each seasons budget.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2021 8:29:27 GMT
A few quick ideas that could be implemented to potentially help crowds would be - - Twitter/Facebook (Like/Retweet/Share) the clubs post for the upcoming home game (every home game) to Win Two tickets or Family ticket etc.. - Email advertising for each home game from the email database, advertising game, buy tickets online etc (Not too sure what the current gdpr bit is though) - Student Target area, offer them a deal (Match Ticket + Pint for £?) I think they will just start to be moving in now Agree with the student point - think I’ve raised it before but when I went and did my masters at Chester, most people didn’t know a team existed ! If you approached the sports union first, there’s 4 mens and 2 girls teams to begin, all with 16 in a squad. If you did £10 plus a pint I guarantee you’d get 50-60 down as there’s nothing else to do on a Saturday. If that works, expand it out to all sports union teams. Also worth noting there’s some serious players in the first team at the uni, when I was there most lads were evo stick north, Bala and Airbus - always worth a look !
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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 23, 2021 8:30:16 GMT
I would be surprised if we were a bottom 8 budget. I wouldn’t there’s a lot of money in this league I would be amazed if it was. AFC Fylde and York City clearly have budgets higher than ours but after them there are probably 6 to 8 clubs including us with very similar first team budgets.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 23, 2021 8:31:35 GMT
I am reliably informed it is over 300k this year. The club managed it's finances well over COVID, and did well with the Build A Budget scheme. If anyone is reading this with 500k a year to blow on a Non League club with no assets can they please email info@chesterfc.com where one of the "amateurs" will get back to you ASAP. I wonder if the sales of Taylor and Goodwin also played a part? That’s surely got to be the way forward, sign unwanted players elsewhere, develop them then sell them on as well as doing the same with our own youth team players. One a season would likely provide an increase on each seasons budget. Exactly. My views entirely
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Post by brianfelshaw on Sept 23, 2021 8:43:22 GMT
I wonder if the sales of Taylor and Goodwin also played a part? That’s surely got to be the way forward, sign unwanted players elsewhere, develop them then sell them on as well as doing the same with our own youth team players. One a season would likely provide an increase on each seasons budget. Exactly. My views entirely Fan owned or privately owned, surely that’s the prudent way of creating extra revenue/income. The likes of Askew, Williams, Morgan, Glendon, Weeks, Hardy, Dudley, Oyibo etc are all sellable assets, the right ages with plenty of time for improvement.
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Post by brianfelshaw on Sept 23, 2021 8:46:19 GMT
I wouldn’t there’s a lot of money in this league I would be amazed if it was. AFC Fylde and York City clearly have budgets higher than ours but after them there are probably 6 to 8 clubs including us with very similar first team budgets. Brackley, Boston, Spennymoor then all the full time clubs Gloucester, Kidderminster, Hereford, Gateshead plus as you’ve already said York and Fylde. It’s a congested group just to get into the top ten with sugar daddies ploughing money in. It shows that we’ve actually had a few decent seasons up until this one.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 23, 2021 9:03:06 GMT
I would be amazed if it was. AFC Fylde and York City clearly have budgets higher than ours but after them there are probably 6 to 8 clubs including us with very similar first team budgets. Brackley, Boston, Spennymoor then all the full time clubs Gloucester, Kidderminster, Hereford, Gateshead plus as you’ve already said York and Fylde. It’s a congested group just to get into the top ten with sugar daddies ploughing money in. It shows that we’ve actually had a few decent seasons up until this one. And even so, we’re only a handful of games into it.
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Post by brianfelshaw on Sept 23, 2021 9:16:35 GMT
Brackley, Boston, Spennymoor then all the full time clubs Gloucester, Kidderminster, Hereford, Gateshead plus as you’ve already said York and Fylde. It’s a congested group just to get into the top ten with sugar daddies ploughing money in. It shows that we’ve actually had a few decent seasons up until this one. And even so, we’re only a handful of games into it. I’m not one of these that think things are all of a sudden crashing all around us. Im aware enough to see that even though we’re a bigger club that the majority in this league due to support, I accept where we’ve had to come from to be where we are now. We’ve had a bad start but we always have bad runs, especially post Christmas, maybe this is ours now? Signing unwanted players like Taylor, Asante, Askew, Williams, Glendon and Weeks etc and signing the best players from other clubs like Jackson, Morgan and Oyibo is the way we have to continue going along with quality youngsters coming through like Burke, Goodwin, Marsh Hughes. A few bad results doesn’t make it a bad strategy.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 23, 2021 15:41:05 GMT
the remark about someone needing to pump in 500k a year to get us into the league shows where we are and where we are heading. So you reckon that we would need a budget of around 800k? What's our budget now? 250k? We will always be a part time club run by amateurs And the alternative is what? I much doubt there are too many generous benefactors knocking around willing to lose 500k per annum for zero gain. Investors wouldnt touch it because there is unlikely to be any gain. We dont own the ground so there is nothing to sell or develop. And no profit to be made. The alternative could be like this "Derby County go into Administration" link they owe 10s of millions and they have a millionaire owner
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Post by Lobster on Sept 23, 2021 16:42:42 GMT
I would say there is literally no millionaire willing to take us on at all. Where do we think this person would come from? They would have to be a hard corgie fan to take it on and be willing to lose 500k + a year minimum to get us in the football league. Go on name me some local millionaires, who you’d approach? Someone who has a prior interest in the club. PLEASE DONT SAY MICHAEL OWEN. Our best chance is one of us lot on here win the euro millions and gift the club a lump sum. I’d give us £1mil to renovate the stadium and area, then £500k to invest in squad and youth. The rest is going on a yacht 😂😂 the remark about someone needing to pump in 500k a year to get us into the league shows where we are and where we are heading. So you reckon that we would need a budget of around 800k? What's our budget now? 250k? We will always be a part time club run by amateurs You're entitled to your views on our model but it's been pointed out to you several times that you're using disparaging and unkind language. It seems that you're not listening and are doing it deliberately for dramatic effect. You seem to think nothing of rubbishing the club and the people who keep it going. I certainly don't think we are run by amateurs. Volunteers, yes, but that doesn't mean they don't have professional skills and qualifications. I certainly think they behave more professionally than a lot of private club owners - including at least four of the ones we had before them. You have to have a thick skin to get involved with board but everyone is human. Jeff Banks said in this very thread that he almost stepped down recently. Everyone has a threshold. An imperfect club is better than no club, which is what we'll have if nobody fancies can be doing with the hassle any more.
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