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Post by noddy on Jul 23, 2023 0:38:13 GMT
Where are we short then as things stand? Can only comment on last seasons home form as I don't travel away or do pre season friendlies.Turning the draws into narrow wins are a necessity as to replicate last season's away form is unlikely. Pace, width and taking the handbrake off I'd like to see, not sussing the opposition out first half. Looking at the squad, defensively I think we have plenty of quality on paper. Hopefully Callum can tweak the system to make us more effective at home and hopefully consistently better to watch with a positive result which at 4.55 is the most important thing đ
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Post by dc2cfc on Jul 23, 2023 17:01:40 GMT
Havenât done any research on this, but has Zac Clarke played at all this pre-season?
Iâm guessing he will be going out on loan again?
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jul 23, 2023 17:15:55 GMT
Havenât done any research on this, but has Zac Clarke played at all this pre-season? Iâm guessing he will be going out on loan again? He featured at Buckley.
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Post by noddy on Jul 25, 2023 21:16:20 GMT
Anybody travel to Bala this evening, any report on the game?
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Post by bogsnorkel on Jul 25, 2023 21:19:18 GMT
Lost 1-0. You have to wonder where the goals are coming from. Caton apart, we seem light based on pre season matches
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Post by Matt on Jul 25, 2023 21:31:32 GMT
Does anyone know what our game is Saturday? I canât see anything anywhere
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Post by Anders on Jul 25, 2023 21:33:18 GMT
Does anyone know what our game is Saturday? I canât see anything anywhere Marine away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 21:37:40 GMT
I donât usually go pre season games but I played with Kieran Smith from Bala at Chester Nomads so thought Iâd go down.
Football ruined a lovely evening đ would have been better off with a kayak on the lake instead of watching this - all the feels of a pre season / slightly increased training match.
We were crap - wouldnât read too much into it.
If weâre like this against the Stansted baggage handlers Iâll start worrying but all will be fine come opening day.
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Post by whitey on Jul 25, 2023 22:58:07 GMT
Lost 1-0. You have to wonder where the goals are coming from. Caton apart, we seem light based on pre
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Post by Anders on Jul 25, 2023 23:28:07 GMT
Lost 1-0. You have to wonder where the goals are coming from. Caton apart, we seem light based on pre season matches Agree with this, need a boost up front. Hall isn't going to score a great amount, or Thomas. Murray is just a waste of a wage. Just my opinion of course and would be happy to be proved wrong. Just to counter, Thomas got 7 goals last season despite spending half of it on the bench when out of favour earlier on. He'll chip in from out wide, not many wingers have got that amount over multiple years for us recently.
Regarding Murray, I don't know what it is if you involve cup games, but we've only lost once in 27 league games when he's started. Particularly in away games he is hugely important in my opinion.
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Post by proudblue on Jul 26, 2023 5:42:21 GMT
Didnât think we played too badly in the first half last night, except for lacking a cutting edge. We created a few chances that Willoughby would have almost certainly gobbled up last season and maybe Caton would have done if heâd been on the field at the time. I donât recall Stanway having much to do at the other end before the break.
It was the second half where the balance of the game seemed to change and Bala got on top. No great surprise when they got the winner, but no great reason to panic either.
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Post by elazuluno on Jul 26, 2023 5:57:41 GMT
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jul 26, 2023 6:03:46 GMT
Agree with this, need a boost up front. Hall isn't going to score a great amount, or Thomas. Murray is just a waste of a wage. Just my opinion of course and would be happy to be proved wrong. Just to counter, Thomas got 7 goals last season despite spending half of it on the bench when out of favour earlier on. He'll chip in from out wide, not many wingers have got that amount over multiple years for us recently.
Regarding Murray, I don't know what it is if you involve cup games, but we've only lost once in 27 league games when he's started. Particularly in away games he is hugely important in my opinion.
I thought Murray was excellent last night.
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Post by chesterken on Jul 26, 2023 7:04:05 GMT
We have a solid looking squad and a few lads havenât started yet due to injuries, I do think that the final tweaks will come from the loan market once it opens up Calum has a great record at bringing it gems from higher up the leagues.
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Post by Curva Nord on Jul 26, 2023 9:42:30 GMT
I'm hoping a goal poacher from Everton will waltz through our doors
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jul 26, 2023 9:42:35 GMT
People flap flap panic panicking over a game on a plastic pitch in July where we played lads to get minutes. Jeez.
Charlie Caton will play as our #9 and score 20+ goals in the League next season.
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Post by oldblue72 on Jul 26, 2023 12:36:02 GMT
Donât agree mate. If weâre serious about winning this league we should be brushing Bala aside pre season or not. We are fairly solid but need goals to kill teams off. Weâre ok without the ball but lack a system with it from the games I have seen so far.Looks at the moment like we are filling positions up with anyone who can run- maybe thatâs just a minutes in legs process - but we should still be beating Bala.
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Post by Matt on Jul 26, 2023 12:53:01 GMT
Donât agree mate. If weâre serious about winning this league we should be brushing Bala aside pre season or not. We are fairly solid but need goals to kill teams off. Weâre ok without the ball but lack a system with it from the games I have seen so far.Looks at the moment like we are filling positions up with anyone who can run- maybe thatâs just a minutes in legs process - but we should still be beating Bala. I don't see the point looking at pre-season games, we drew with a full strength Bolton side and even beat Everton last season. It means nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 14:27:31 GMT
Donât agree mate. If weâre serious about winning this league we should be brushing Bala aside pre season or not. We are fairly solid but need goals to kill teams off. Weâre ok without the ball but lack a system with it from the games I have seen so far.Looks at the moment like we are filling positions up with anyone who can run- maybe thatâs just a minutes in legs process - but we should still be beating Bala. We were crap and lethargic all over the show last night but you canât read anything into these games, most of the boys looked tired and I think most only go at 70% or so to ensure no injuries. If we played Bala in a competitive fixture it would 4/5-0 so stop panicking
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Post by Lobster on Jul 26, 2023 14:44:07 GMT
These are practice matches. The odd shit performance can actually be beneficial as it can help you realise what needs work, what you're doing wrong and what you need to work on before the serious games start.
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Post by CH3STER on Jul 26, 2023 16:23:54 GMT
People flap flap panic panicking over a game on a plastic pitch in July where we played lads to get minutes. Jeez. Charlie Caton will play as our #9 and score 20+ goals in the League next season. This
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jul 26, 2023 17:54:47 GMT
Donât agree mate. If weâre serious about winning this league we should be brushing Bala aside pre season or not. We are fairly solid but need goals to kill teams off. Weâre ok without the ball but lack a system with it from the games I have seen so far. Looks at the moment like we are filling positions up with anyone who can run- maybe thatâs just a minutes in legs process - but we should still be beating Bala. Thats very unfair on lads like Caton, Hall and Murray. They are excellent players. Weeks is technically superb. Even our fullbacks are both excellent with a ball? Chester should / could have been 3-0 up at half time. We were very good with and without the ball and missed a few decent chances. The team got changed around 2nd half and lost a bit of its edge, and they scored late on. We were not great 2nd half but it wasn't the 4th round of the FA Cup, it was a good runout against a really fit side on a plastic pitch that puts minutes in legs, don't overthink it. Don't need to beat anyone pre-season, we have to start beating teams a week on Saturday.
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Post by Si on Jul 27, 2023 8:55:50 GMT
People flap flap panic panicking over a game on a plastic pitch in July where we played lads to get minutes. Jeez. Charlie Caton will play as our #9 and score 20+ goals in the League next season. TBF the reaction seems quite measured on here, can't see many posts above flapping? But yeah, I couldn't care less about pre season - it's games where lads are playing for fitness whilst also not trying to get injured, and with frequent changes from both sides then it's just not reflective of a normal league match whatsoever. I don't bother going to pre season anymore - I can't get excited if we win and I'm not arsed if we lose, so there's just no incentive for me to give up an afternoon or night to go and watch something where there is nothing at stake. I've seen us have great pre season's and then terrible in the league, it's really not a great yardstick. The only pre season that was a clear insight into how we'd do in the league was the final McCarthy season where we looked miles off it in pre season and also fitness levels looked poor.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jul 27, 2023 9:14:33 GMT
People flap flap panic panicking over a game on a plastic pitch in July where we played lads to get minutes. Jeez. Charlie Caton will play as our #9 and score 20+ goals in the League next season. TBF the reaction seems quite measured on here, can't see many posts above flapping? But yeah, I couldn't care less about pre season - it's games where lads are playing for fitness whilst also not trying to get injured, and with frequent changes from both sides then it's just not reflective of a normal league match whatsoever. I don't bother going to pre season anymore - I can't get excited if we win and I'm not arsed if we lose, so there's just no incentive for me to give up an afternoon or night to go and watch something where there is nothing at stake. I've seen us have great pre season's and then terrible in the league, it's really not a great yardstick. The only pre season that was a clear insight into how we'd do in the league was the final McCarthy season where we looked miles off it in pre season and also fitness levels looked poor. More based on twitter tbh Si, and I don't even bother with Facebook but can only imagine..
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Post by Moltisanti on Jul 27, 2023 9:47:35 GMT
Canât believe people are questioning Cal already, some people have very short memories.
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Post by Si on Jul 27, 2023 10:00:44 GMT
TBF the reaction seems quite measured on here, can't see many posts above flapping? But yeah, I couldn't care less about pre season - it's games where lads are playing for fitness whilst also not trying to get injured, and with frequent changes from both sides then it's just not reflective of a normal league match whatsoever. I don't bother going to pre season anymore - I can't get excited if we win and I'm not arsed if we lose, so there's just no incentive for me to give up an afternoon or night to go and watch something where there is nothing at stake. I've seen us have great pre season's and then terrible in the league, it's really not a great yardstick. The only pre season that was a clear insight into how we'd do in the league was the final McCarthy season where we looked miles off it in pre season and also fitness levels looked poor. More based on twitter tbh Si, and I don't even bother with Facebook but can only imagine.. Part of the problem with Twitter is that you get gloating Goats who still want to obsess with our results despite the fact they are a Hollywood glamour club, and too many of our lot on there rise to the bait.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 27, 2023 10:35:44 GMT
People flap flap panic panicking over a game on a plastic pitch in July where we played lads to get minutes. Jeez. Charlie Caton will play as our #9 and score 20+ goals in the League next season. TBF the reaction seems quite measured on here, can't see many posts above flapping? But yeah, I couldn't care less about pre season - it's games where lads are playing for fitness whilst also not trying to get injured, and with frequent changes from both sides then it's just not reflective of a normal league match whatsoever. I don't bother going to pre season anymore - I can't get excited if we win and I'm not arsed if we lose, so there's just no incentive for me to give up an afternoon or night to go and watch something where there is nothing at stake. I've seen us have great pre season's and then terrible in the league, it's really not a great yardstick. The only pre season that was a clear insight into how we'd do in the league was the final McCarthy season where we looked miles off it in pre season and also fitness levels looked poor. Just had a look at our pre-season 2012/13 when we went on to win the division by a mile. We were beaten 3-0 by Airbus, 1-0 by Fylde (lower division at the time) and lost at home to Kilmarnock and a Liverpool team with an average age of about 17.
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Post by Jack on Jul 27, 2023 10:49:03 GMT
I hate pre-season. Iâd rather it was all behind closed doors and we just rocked up at Bishop Stortford a week on Saturday.
Thereâs no rhyme or reason to it. Squad sounds like itâs one striker away from being really strong. Itâll happen.
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Post by harrymac on Jul 27, 2023 12:41:39 GMT
I agree results are meaningless in the friendlies. I do like to go to the odd one or two tho especially when we've signed a load of new players so I know who is who come the first league game. I'm expecting an impressive young loan signing or two before the season starts as well. Callum's stock in bringing on players has risen and he has the contacts at all the local big clubs. And the Utd friendly is a strange one....
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Post by egdarblue on Jul 27, 2023 12:44:21 GMT
Can only judge how it's going to go after around 10 games in
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