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Post by leedsutd234 on Mar 12, 2024 22:49:03 GMT
What a gutless performance. Where are the leaders? Southport deserved that win. Lots of 4/10 players out there tonight. How did their goal go past Stanway. If we do make the play-offs where are the goals coming from.
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Post by yossergolf on Mar 12, 2024 22:50:27 GMT
Exactly needs to own it and go back to the drawing board. Games running out and we're in a poor spell, lacking goals, lacking creativity in our play. We aren't secure with the play offs and too many more performances like that and we'll miss out. The tactics were frankly crap all game, too slow at the back, Southport clocked onto us first half pushing up on Edwards and Williams when they had the ball and then having a man up on the full backs straight away. Midfield were anonymous all game offered little option so left with pumping aimless balls forwards. When we do try switching the play it's 3 or 4 passes that take forever and by the time we get the ball on the opposite flank the space that was there has gone. Southport switch play in one drilled ball and it stretches us on the pitch. We had more than enough opportunities to do that first half especially and didn't do it. Second half taking Tollitt off at 0-0 pathetic. The 3 in midfield were useless all game, fine if you want to put Caton on but put Tollitt in behind or just tell him to find space, let him drift in on the left, on the right through the middle, get him to find space and get him on the ball, he's creative, he's direct, get the full backs running forwards off him then, let the forwards be in and around the box, not constantly having to run the channels because we have zero width. These tactics need to be rethought before the rails really do come off our season, if Cal has ambitions of taking us up the leagues then he needs to recognise when something isn't working and find a way to change the system to make us more creative. We’ve been lacking goals all season. Tactics are play possession football, mainly sideways and backwards then the opposition can’t score. Last season we had a goal scorer who created and took his own chances, rarely do we see a forward player making forward runs for a through ball. Home performances have been poor for a while and do nothing to encourage fans to continually show up. As a squad we lack a solid midfield battler who will put himself about. Glendon and Weeks can play together but they need someone with steel who will dominate, unfortunately that is not Cal’s way. He has to look at himself, tactics and squad to get the best out of it. We may make play offs but there has to be a quick turnaround in form or the season peters out.
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Post by moldcestrian on Mar 12, 2024 22:51:37 GMT
The problem in my eyes is we have some very talented small players but not enough tall players. In this league the ball is in the air more often than not. so a team like southport can come along be aggressive play a lot of high balls and beat us. Next season we need to get the balance right with bigger players aswell as the small ball players. Probably get pelters for this but imagine being a player and all you have is Allcock banging on at you all game? Never shuts up and it’s utter shite. The likes of Whitehouse, Edwards, Roberts must think who the fuck he is.
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Post by brooklaneblue on Mar 12, 2024 22:52:32 GMT
Talking over the course of the season of course it makes a difference. Easiest thing i' the world to blame the budget. Who on earth wants to take us over??? Tonight the budget was not the issue, its coaching, tactics, and desire to win , we failed on all three categories tonight, we can't blame the officials either.
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Post by dannyjdholland on Mar 12, 2024 22:54:01 GMT
If there's one thing I don't want to hear from Calum tonight it's a smart arse remark back to Neil Turner when he doesn't like a question he gets asked. He more than anyone out there was poor tonight and needs to realise it. Every home game the same with no lessons learned. they are taking their time releasing the interview again Might be because Neil Turner is interviewing their manager as well.
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Post by arthuro on Mar 12, 2024 22:55:36 GMT
I'd be interested to know what Tamworth's budget is (or Curzon ofr Brackley). Brackley can more then afford to pay £££ if they need to have done for years.
Our recruitment over the summer wasn't good enough, We've no money to bring in players we desperatley need in. Hope im proven wrong but i can't see us getting out this league any time soon
Seems to be the same story every season
I doubt the recent incomings like Burton on Tollit will be on buttons. No doubt our manager has wasted lots of money this season on the likes of Taylor, Jake Burton and a few others who have failed to deliver.
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Post by whitey on Mar 12, 2024 22:57:22 GMT
The problem in my eyes is we have some very talented small players but not enough tall players. In this league the ball is in the air more often than not. so a team like southport can come along be aggressive play a lot of high balls and beat us. Next season we need to get the balance right with bigger players aswell as the small ball players. Probably get pelters for this but imagine being a player and all you have is Allcock banging on at you all game? Never shuts up and it’s utter shite. The likes of Whitehouse, Edwards, Roberts must think who the fuck he is. At least he talks to the players, all Cal does is argue with fans and Lino's!
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Post by muffinthemule on Mar 12, 2024 22:57:52 GMT
Someone said earlier that Cal had no 'plan B'. Let's face it, he's not even got a 'plan A'. Abysmal performance. Feel sorry for the players having to play to that crap system. By
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Post by devadiva on Mar 12, 2024 22:58:25 GMT
For the first time this season I am genuinely concerned about play offs. That was garbage and the rest of our fixtures are tough ones. Doesn’t feel like we have the strategy or belief to do it. And a change in system usually takes time to bed in - are there enough games left to do that successfully - esp against the opposition we have?. If we do make the play offs I hope they are all away games and we do a hell of a lot of penalty practice.
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Post by luckyblue on Mar 12, 2024 23:02:26 GMT
Somebody has already mentioned that last season we had a never say die attitude, and I/we always felt we could score a last minute equaliser or winner. This patch of (non) form feels like we won’t score if we played for 3 or 4 days. Had to have a word with myself to stop me going home at half time- bored shitless.
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Post by oldtimer on Mar 12, 2024 23:02:43 GMT
Brackley can more then afford to pay £££ if they need to have done for years.
Our recruitment over the summer wasn't good enough, We've no money to bring in players we desperatley need in. Hope im proven wrong but i can't see us getting out this league any time soon
Seems to be the same story every season
I doubt the recent incomings like Burton on Tollit will be on buttons. No doubt our manager has wasted lots of money this season on the likes of Taylor, Jake Burton and a few others who have failed to deliver. go on say it Caton
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Post by devadiva on Mar 12, 2024 23:05:07 GMT
Probably get pelters for this but imagine being a player and all you have is Allcock banging on at you all game? Never shuts up and it’s utter shite. The likes of Whitehouse, Edwards, Roberts must think who the fuck he is. At least he talks to the players, all Cal does is argue with fans and Lino's! On the question of talking, we could do with a leader on the pitch. Glendon has zero presence. You never hear him say or do anything. It usually falls to Weeks and Whitehouse to plug the gap from what I can see. I think we all agree we need a new system but a new captain to help implement it would help.
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Post by arthuro on Mar 12, 2024 23:05:33 GMT
I doubt the recent incomings like Burton on Tollit will be on buttons. No doubt our manager has wasted lots of money this season on the likes of Taylor, Jake Burton and a few others who have failed to deliver. go on say it Caton Feel sorry for Caton. Undoubted talent but he’s having it kicked out by our manager by being played at wing back and then wide left. Get him in the middle where he will score goals.
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Post by league2 on Mar 12, 2024 23:11:39 GMT
Feel sorry for Caton. Undoubted talent but he’s having it kicked out by our manager by being played at wing back and then wide left. Get him in the middle where he will score goals. We will only be paying a % of there wages
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Post by avfo on Mar 12, 2024 23:13:21 GMT
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Post by dannyjdholland on Mar 12, 2024 23:13:53 GMT
Feel sorry for Caton. Undoubted talent but he’s having it kicked out by our manager by being played at wing back and then wide left. Get him in the middle where he will score goals. We will only be paying a % of there wages Who else is going to be paying his wages? He’s contracted here?
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Post by oldtimer on Mar 12, 2024 23:14:12 GMT
Feel sorry for Caton. Undoubted talent but he’s having it kicked out by our manager by being played at wing back and then wide left. Get him in the middle where he will score goals. you feel sorry for Caton how many games has he played this season and how many of them lasted 90 mins that's just one example of what's wrong with this club no discipline whatsoever
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Post by Harry Lime on Mar 12, 2024 23:18:16 GMT
The players just looked drained of any confidence tonight. Harder they tried the worse it got.
The defence and keeper are fine. The rest is unbalanced.
For me the midfield hasn't looked right all season. The diamond has been used to fit Glendon into a key 10 role. The way we set up he is the key player. But it leaves you narrow and with little width. The rest of the midfield have suffered in comparison to last season.
The strikers are mainly ineffective and have been all season. Part of that is the time we take to get the ball up to them. By the time we do, there's no space and it ends up a fight ball. Our strikers aren't at their best doing that. The other part of it is that the strikers aren't great either.
Tollitt isn't really a striker. I'd prefer him playing in the Glendon role, or as a roving winger, depending on the formation. Not convinced about Peers. Can't see how he scored so many for Curzon. Maybe he got lucky. Norton isn't good enough. Thomas isn't a striker. Caton can be effective, but it's the occasional burst rather than over 90 minutes. None of them look to have any confidence. Hardly surprisingly. Southport put the ball in every opportunity they had. That makes it easier for their strikers to find space in our box as they know when it's coming in. Ours have to wait and there is no space in a penalty area packed with big defenders, that also puts extra pressure on the players putting the ball in.
All in all its been a disappointing few weeks at home. But we've had 30+ home games in the last 2 seasons and it's been a consistent problem. Unless we change tactics and recruitment we'll need a better balance to overcome our deficiencies.
The other elephant in the room is the lack of entertainment. It seems worse tonight as we've lost, but the game was more open than most have been and we still struggled to create anything from open play. I think privately Cal will realise how much he's learned this season, probably more than any other season so far in his career. He'll emerge stronger and wiser from this one.
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Post by Anders on Mar 12, 2024 23:19:57 GMT
Feel sorry for Caton. Undoubted talent but he’s having it kicked out by our manager by being played at wing back and then wide left. Get him in the middle where he will score goals. Same for Peers and Tollitt tonight really. Tollitt far too advanced to get involved, that's not his position at all, never has been. Shouldn't have come off though, should have been pushed behind Peers and Caton floating around.
Peers had their #21 on his shoulders all night and won nothing in the air against him. Never a thought to change that situation despite being obvious after just ten minutes.
Bentley wasn't afraid to make a change by taking off Thomson at half time who was clearly their weak link. We just as usual stick to the same old until it's too late.
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Post by oldtimer on Mar 12, 2024 23:24:58 GMT
The players just looked drained of any confidence tonight. Harder they tried the worse it got. The defence and keeper are fine. The rest is unbalanced. For me the midfield hasn't looked right all season. The diamond has been used to fit Glendon into a key 10 role. The way we set up he is the key player. But it leaves you narrow and with little width. The rest of the midfield have suffered in comparison to last season. The strikers are mainly ineffective and have been all season. Part of that is the time we take to get the ball up to them. By the time we do, there's no space and it ends up a fight ball. Our strikers aren't at their best doing that. The other part of it is that the strikers aren't great either. Tollitt isn't really a striker. I'd prefer him playing in the Glendon role, or as a roving winger, depending on the formation. Not convinced about Peers. Can't see how he scored so many for Curzon. Maybe he got lucky. Norton isn't good enough. Thomas isn't a striker. Caton can be effective, but it's the occasional burst rather than over 90 minutes. None of them look to have any confidence. Hardly surprisingly. Southport put the ball in every opportunity they had. That makes it easier for their strikers to find space in our box as they know when it's coming in. Ours have to wait and there is no space in a penalty area packed with big defenders, that also puts extra pressure on the players putting the ball in. All in all its been a disappointing few weeks at home. But we've had 30+ home games in the last 2 seasons and it's been a consistent problem. Unless we change tactics and recruitment we'll need a better balance to overcome our deficiencies. The other elephant in the room is the lack of entertainment. It seems worse tonight as we've lost, but the game was more open than most have been and we still struggled to create anything from open play. I think privately Cal will realise how much he's learned this season, probably more than any other season so far in his career. He'll emerge stronger and wiser from this one. his post match interview would suggest he's learnt nothing
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Post by hackett on Mar 12, 2024 23:28:36 GMT
The problem in my eyes is we have some very talented small players but not enough tall players. In this league the ball is in the air more often than not. so a team like southport can come along be aggressive play a lot of high balls and beat us. Next season we need to get the balance right with bigger players aswell as the small ball players. Size of the players had nothing to do with it sorry. We have capability to move the ball around quicker and be direct without having to lump it forwards. We're too slow simple as that, doesn't matter if you are 6ft 6 or 5ft 6 We do, but that first half where we were trying to move the ball around like the nimble football players that they are didn't work either. Can probably understand the problem Cal has now?
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Post by brooklaneblue on Mar 12, 2024 23:30:53 GMT
At least he talks to the players, all Cal does is argue with fans and Lino's! On the question of talking, we could do with a leader on the pitch. Glendon has zero presence. You never hear him say or do anything. It usually falls to Weeks and Whitehouse to plug the gap from what I can see. I think we all agree we need a new system but a new captain to help implement it would help. I said this all season, Glendon is a good player at this level, but not a captain and neither is Weeks.
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Post by whitey on Mar 12, 2024 23:34:24 GMT
Size of the players had nothing to do with it sorry. We have capability to move the ball around quicker and be direct without having to lump it forwards. We're too slow simple as that, doesn't matter if you are 6ft 6 or 5ft 6 We do, but that first half where we were trying to move the ball around like the nimble football players that they are didn't work either. Can probably understand the problem Cal has now? Did we? All I seen was 'hoof' from the start!
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Post by hackett on Mar 12, 2024 23:39:08 GMT
We do, but that first half where we were trying to move the ball around like the nimble football players that they are didn't work either. Can probably understand the problem Cal has now? Did we? All I seen was 'hoof' from the start! What end of the stadium were youbout of interest? They had ample opportunities in the first half but kept passing it, happened several times in there box.
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Post by bryndjones on Mar 13, 2024 0:05:06 GMT
I was impressed with Southport, not because they were particularly good but they were so determined to see out the win, they fought and battled for every ball and wanted it so much more than us. That’s why I’m really flat tonight and worried for our chances in the run in. Mid table sides like Spennymoor and Southport have caught up with us and we are being dragged down the league and reeled in. Too many games this season we’ve gone behind and not responded and also countless times we’ve gone ahead and been pegged back. We’re hardly mentality monsters, are we...
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Post by sandgrounder on Mar 13, 2024 0:05:21 GMT
The curse is lifted...
Overall very little in the game; we had two chances being the goal and Lloyd missing a sitter in the first half. For Chester, Weeks clipped the crossbar from outside the box and Burton hit it again from a cross/shot. One of those matches which could have ended 0-0 or 1-0 to either team without any complaints.
I thought Chester looked solid defensively and compact in the middle, though there was an obvious lack of pace in wide areas. There didn't seem to be any number sevens, no tricky wingers or pace down the sides. Most teams in this league have got that as an option; yes it's the sixth tier and most quick wingers have inconsistent delivery but it's normally an option.
You might have noticed we made a sub at half time, defender for defender. Your ex-academy lad Thomson was playing RWB, he came off for a centre back. Another centre back (Quansah, the better of the two brothers....) shifted over a little. I can only assume Bentley noticed you had nothing down your left so he might as well congest the middle even more.
I think you're a winger (or two) off a very good team because there's quality everywhere else. I can see the midfield trio come in for some stick, but I felt sorry for them because they never had any options. They'd pick the ball up again and again, but the only free man was the one stood five yards away. I don't think they want to play cautiously, they've got the technical ability to spread expansive passes all across the pitch, but ultimately if there's no one stood there then there's nothing they can do. They end up getting pelters for playing negative five yard passes but it was the only thing on.
The only width came from the full backs but because we had a back five, they were always outnumbered. They couldn't create any two v ones because there was no supporting wide player to create one with.
I think you'll get in the play-offs but that will likely mean more close cagey games and you just need that something different from wide areas and it would be a completely different team.
Best of luck for the season.
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Post by welshrover on Mar 13, 2024 0:13:55 GMT
Listening to Cal's post match interviews you get the impression he is playing football on a computer not on a football pitch.
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Post by hackett on Mar 13, 2024 0:22:50 GMT
Listening to Cal's post match interviews you get the impression he is playing football on a computer not on a football pitch. Na, he's playing with footballers when we need 5/10 lumps. Same as the season we won the league above, the height won us that title alongside Clare. We've no real height in any position, we lose ariel battles and the last two games we've lost most second balls aswell.
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Post by bluey7 on Mar 13, 2024 0:40:59 GMT
Cals computer talk about how many corners & shots we have means nothing if you don't score goals, bad recruiting and the lack of higher quality of players coming to the club is down to the management team,they lack the knowledge and contacts of a higher level of football ,its clearly not going to happen with this management team
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Post by borussiachester on Mar 13, 2024 0:47:14 GMT
Truly dire watch tonight. The only enjoyable moments were Cal sarcastically offering a fan the post of set-piece coach, Cal then slipping over on the touchline a few minutes later, and the Temper Trap and the Cure on the PA at half-time.
I don’t get this apparent obsession with trying to ‘match’ the opposition - on Saturday we came up against a good footballing side so tried unsuccessfully to play around them; this time out we came up against a strong, direct side, so for some reason decided to try and play the same way as they did. A squad of our calibre ought to be able to bring the game to the opposition and impose our own style on them, rather than appearing in awe of a side in 17th, but tonight the players’ confidence looked shot - a real concern, seeing as we came into the game on the back of a long unbeaten run - and, judging by his demeanour on the touchline and in his post-match interview, I worry Cal’s could be too. As has been said time and time again, it’s difficult to understand why a side with the attacking players we’ve got looks quite so toothless in front of goal - Peers in particular has faded in recent weeks, and looks badly in need of a rest, but we’re not exactly blessed with alternatives. Felt quite sorry for Coates, as he got up and down that right flank tirelessly, and the onus shouldn’t have been entirely on him to provide an attacking threat from out wide - but again, how often have we said that this season?
With all this being said, it really wouldn’t surprise me if we go on to beat Tamworth at the weekend, but the last two years have surely provided us with more than enough evidence that things need to seriously change at home if we harbour serious ambitions of promotion. While I think some of the criticism of Cal tonight has been overly harsh, it feels like we’ve spent almost the entirety of his tenure wondering when the shackles will finally come off, and so I don’t blame some for wondering whether they ever will.
As an aside, I’m surprised Southport are so low in the table, because they had quality and balance all over the pitch - what are Danny Lloyd and Festus Arthur doing back in this league, for goodness’ sake?! Jim Bentley’s style of play is unlikely to put him in the frame for the Barcelona job, but you can’t deny that it causes teams plenty of issues. If they can keep the core of this side together, and add to it wisely in the summer, I could see them being dark horses for the playoffs.
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