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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 9, 2024 18:20:47 GMT
If this is how it happened then it is wrong, unfortunately one poster thinks it's great to see people stomped all over Amsterdam. I have seen videos of people being stopped by a mob and demand they show their passport to prove they are not from Israel. Also demand they repeat, free palastine before being allowed to leave, these are easy enough to find if you do a quick search, unfortunately it's not all about football Exactly, people shouldn’t travel abroad to export their own racial violence on people just looking to earn an honest crust. Just hope those taxi drivers who were targeted and Moroccan-owned businesses that were smashed up soon recover.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 9, 2024 22:06:25 GMT
Fascist football hooligans get their arses handed to them by the locals and the world media have some warped, twisted idea to defend them.
Cringe.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Nov 9, 2024 22:15:36 GMT
Far right this far right that. I am not far right, no more than you are far left we may have different opinions but one thing I don't fall for is newspapers and bbc news having lived in Holland for 2 years I have a lot of friends who are more than happy to have a leader who puts the Dutch people first. 'I'm not far-right but all my Dutch mates love the far-right and I quote Geert Wilders on internet forums.' What on earth has the world come to when you can't rampage through a European capital attacking property and singing racist chants without getting a good kicking from the locals?
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Post by Eddie Gray's left foot on Nov 9, 2024 22:25:32 GMT
The world will be a safer place for the next 4 years. God, who's told you to think that? Elon Musk? No I don't know Elon Musk. The fact is that from 2016/20 was the only time the USA was not at war with anyone during a presidency and that was because of Donald Trump. Let's just see if that was a fluke.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 10, 2024 2:46:58 GMT
God, who's told you to think that? Elon Musk? No I don't know Elon Musk. The fact is that from 2016/20 was the only time the USA was not at war with anyone during a presidency and that was because of Donald Trump. Let's just see if that was a fluke. I suspect it was a fluke. Also Obama's reign before him was a relatively peaceful one too, especially considering what Bush had been like before that. Also, Trump didn't exactly bring peace to his own country. Race riots, George Floyd, dreadful advice about COVID which he ended up getting himself through his own stupidity, and that's before we come to his babyish and inflammatory to losing the 2020 election, and the violence and disorder he encouraged after it.
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 10, 2024 8:49:32 GMT
Teenage Dutch journalist doing a better job than the mainstream media in exposing the racist thuggery of the Israelis that sparked the trouble in Amsterdam.
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Post by johnytwodogs on Nov 10, 2024 8:56:46 GMT
Far right this far right that. I am not far right, no more than you are far left we may have different opinions but one thing I don't fall for is newspapers and bbc news having lived in Holland for 2 years I have a lot of friends who are more than happy to have a leader who puts the Dutch people first. 'I'm not far-right but all my Dutch mates love the far-right and I quote Geert Wilders on internet forums.' What on earth has the world come to when you can't rampage through a European capital attacking property and singing racist chants without getting a good kicking from the locals?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 10, 2024 8:57:03 GMT
Far right this far right that. I am not far right, no more than you are far left we may have different opinions but one thing I don't fall for is newspapers and bbc news having lived in Holland for 2 years I have a lot of friends who are more than happy to have a leader who puts the Dutch people first. Is it putting the Dutch people first to allow a foreign army of football hooligans to rampage through a Dutch city wreaking havoc, and then defend them? And for the record, YES - I absolutely love to see fascist thugs get stomped all over the pavement by the locals.
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Post by johnytwodogs on Nov 10, 2024 9:11:46 GMT
I can say I am not far right because I don't even know what far right means, no more than i know what far left means. You and I have differing opinions but I would not call you a name because of that. I change my affiliation as often as I change the party I vote for. So maybe the world would be a better place if we all adopted a live and let live attitude. Especially tomorrow when we remembet real men, not talkers and debaters but men who fought for their country.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 10, 2024 9:27:21 GMT
I didn’t call you far right, myself. Just noticeable that you seem to be in support of far right leaders and groups, that’s all.
Yeah those brave men that fought against the type of fascism that Isr*el is championing. We will remember them.
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Post by johnytwodogs on Nov 10, 2024 9:52:28 GMT
If you open your eyes you will see the world is waking up, people are voting for the world they want. All I want is to live my life peacefully and enjoy my family and for my sins chester fc. As an aside are you happy with anti Israeli protesters rampaging through the streets of your capital every single week in the name of some far off war that has nothing to do with us.
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 10, 2024 9:56:29 GMT
If you open your eyes you will see the world is waking up, people are voting for the world they want. All I want is to live my life peacefully and enjoy my family and for my sins chester fc. As an aside are you happy with anti Israeli protesters rampaging through the streets of your capital every single week in the name of some far off war that has nothing to do with us. ‘Rampaging’, listen to yourself. If this war has nothing to do with us why are we selling weapons that are slaughtering civilians in their tens of thousands?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 10, 2024 10:02:41 GMT
If you open your eyes you will see the world is waking up, people are voting for the world they want. All I want is to live my life peacefully and enjoy my family and for my sins chester fc. As an aside are you happy with anti Israeli protesters rampaging through the streets of your capital every single week in the name of some far off war that has nothing to do with us. You’re doing a terrible job of being the apolotical, “just want to live my life” chap you are claiming to be. Mask hasn’t even slipped, you just haven’t had one on’
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Post by johnytwodogs on Nov 10, 2024 10:26:47 GMT
Well are you happy with your capital city being invaded every weekend in the name of some war in far off places. Or is it different to what happened in Holland. By the way neither of them achieve anything other than pissing people off who are unable to get on with their lives.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 10, 2024 13:41:40 GMT
Mate it doesn’t effect me, but I have tonnes of respect for thousands of peaceful protestors marching to stop indiscriminate genocide and ethnic cleansing which we are funding.
You know it’s “different to what happened in Holland” which was a bunch of fascist football hooligans being beaten by the local residents - you’re coming across as a proper wrong’un here pal.
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Post by johnytwodogs on Nov 10, 2024 14:42:18 GMT
And you pal come across as an arrogant know it all,if you think all these people marching against a war thousands of miles away has any effect on the outcome then I think you need to give your head a wobble. Every weekend for more than a year no nearer hostages being released whoops it's not about them is it imagine having your baby kidnapped and some heartless bastard deprive it of a loving family, if this is what you support I think it may be you that is the wrong one
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Post by Lobster on Nov 10, 2024 15:55:00 GMT
And you pal come across as an arrogant know it all,if you think all these people marching against a war thousands of miles away has any effect on the outcome then I think you need to give your head a wobble. Every weekend for more than a year no nearer hostages being released whoops it's not about them is it imagine having your baby kidnapped and some heartless bastard deprive it of a loving family, if this is what you support I think it may be you that is the wrong one I support peace. Any civilian killed or suffering is an outrage. However, Israel is being the more destructive and malicious force in my opinion. Over 43,000 Palestinians dead and counting, most of them women and children, and now on to Lebanon as well for some reason. It's just not a proportionate response.
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Post by johnytwodogs on Nov 10, 2024 16:02:30 GMT
I agree entirely but do you believe that if Israel walked away thar hamas would cease firing rockets and release the hostages it's an easy resolution but it's a two way street.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 10, 2024 16:49:45 GMT
And you pal come across as an arrogant know it all,if you think all these people marching against a war thousands of miles away has any effect on the outcome then I think you need to give your head a wobble. Every weekend for more than a year no nearer hostages being released whoops it's not about them is it imagine having your baby kidnapped and some heartless bastard deprive it of a loving family, if this is what you support I think it may be you that is the wrong one Parroting the lies about dead babies now? It’s never been about the hostages. It’s been about annexation, genocide, expansion, hence the move into Lebanon and the simultaneous attacks on three other nearby countries. You only have to listen to the genocidal rhetoric coming out of their government, it really isn’t difficult to find. Thing is, you know all this. You’ve just chosen to pick the side of evil.
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Post by johnytwodogs on Nov 10, 2024 16:57:55 GMT
I have not mentioned dead babies that my friend was you,so there is not a baby 15 months old now who was kidnapped by the terrorists hamas, try looking at every thing through different glasses, my god you really hate Israel, but seem to have lot of love for terrorists are you also a Holocaust denier, I think this conversation is now over.
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 10, 2024 18:05:43 GMT
I agree entirely but do you believe that if Israel walked away thar hamas would cease firing rockets and release the hostages it's an easy resolution but it's a two way street. You’re right, it is a two way street. Hamas should release their hostages at the same time the Israeli government release the 3600 Palestinians currently being held without charge. According to Amnesty International the Israelis arbitrarily round up Palestinian civilians from Gaza and West Bank and toss them into a virtual black hole for prolonged periods without producing any evidence that they pose a security threat and without minimum due process.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 11, 2024 8:42:14 GMT
I have not mentioned dead babies that my friend was you,so there is not a baby 15 months old now who was kidnapped by the terrorists hamas, try looking at every thing through different glasses, my god you really hate Israel, but seem to have lot of love for terrorists are you also a Holocaust denier, I think this conversation is now over. If you want to keep repeating false libellous claims about me on the internet then if I wanted to, there’s plenty of legal routes I could take here. Quite a serious accusation to accuse me of being a “holocaust denier” for simply stating it was great to see fascist football hooligans beaten by the residents of the city they were terrorising. What a fucking leap of mental gymnastics that is. Are you mentally unstable? Your “conversation is over” because you simply cannot deal with multiple people providing you with facts and evidence and have to resort to libellous which could get you and this forum in trouble.
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Post by johnytwodogs on Nov 11, 2024 9:52:45 GMT
Do you understand the difference between a question and an accusation, reread my post if you are capable. Nothing libelous just a straightforward question, I understand you are a consultant working on the front line of the NHS but I don't think that gives you the right to question my mental health, you could just as easily answered the question with a simple yes or no,
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 11, 2024 10:03:08 GMT
Do you understand the difference between a question and an accusation, reread my post if you are capable. Nothing libelous just a straightforward question, I understand you are a consultant working on the front line of the NHS but I don't think that gives you the right to question my mental health, you could just as easily answered the question with a simple yes or no, It would help if you used recognised grammatical structures in your posts.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 11, 2024 11:32:26 GMT
Why is Israel the only country where criticism of its policies seems to be insinuated as hatred of the primary religion there? I don't get it. It needs to stop.
Nobody ever uses the term "Jewish aggression" or "Jewish terrorism". The religion is never brought into the discussion when criticising Israel, yet it so readily comes with accusations of anti-Semitism. Meanwhile, anything Hamas, Al-Qaeida or Isis do is always described as "Islamic", yet that's apparently fine.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 11, 2024 11:56:04 GMT
Indeed. Worse still, this whole debate isn't even about their genocidal maniac government, its about a bunch of football hooligans on an away day terrorising locals and abusing a minutes silence for flood victims, yet people like "Johnnytwodogs" get their knickers in a twist over it and ask if you're a holocaust denier for speaking out against it - whilst seemingly supporting a far right leader.
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Post by weareblues on Nov 14, 2024 16:38:56 GMT
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 14, 2024 22:39:02 GMT
Hahahahahaha That is brilliant
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 15, 2024 8:24:05 GMT
I see the poor victims were at it again in Paris last night, attacking home fans in the stands, wearing IOF apparel and hoods and masks.
Suppose it’s another case of the locals trying to defend themselves and being branded “anti-Semitic” (the phrase has lost all meaning).
When you’re given the green light to carry out a genocide, murder aid workers and journalists repeatedly, sniper six year olds etc by the US and the U.K. you can push the boundaries as far as you like with impunity.
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Post by avfo on Nov 17, 2024 20:34:44 GMT
Just another day in the good old USA - "Jews will not replace us" - Police said there were no arrests after officers were dispatched at 1:20 p.m. "on a group of individuals dressed in all black and armed with firearms holding Nazi Swastika signs,".
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