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Post by devadiva on Oct 26, 2024 22:47:13 GMT
Why is Tom Peers being wheeled out for an interview instead of the captain. Piss poor from the supposed best midfielder in the division it's he who should be fronting up He’s a Grade A bottler. when has GG ever done any media? Not good enough for our captain |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Oct 26, 2024 22:58:52 GMT
Last season we had a spell when we played a ridiculous amount of minutes without scoring a goal
We are now heading down that road again and have had another apology about the performance. Interestingly a senior player has said blame us not CM. Perhaps they are trying to take some of the blame away from Cal?
Either way it’s not good enough and will start to create a toxic football club as fans become split.
Recruitment has been poor it was so obvious last season why we fell short .
He has either tried and failed or been unwilling to bring in what’s required and works in this league ie a target man and at least a couple more with presence about them in midfield
We’ve gone from a game away from being top to bottom half in 4 games plays lost out on any cup £££
How much more misery are our fanes expected to
Put with??
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Post by devadiva on Oct 26, 2024 23:29:50 GMT
Credit to Tom for having the kahunas to front up the media. Thats not easy after today’s performance and deserves a bit of respect. Shame our so called captain hasn’t got the balls to do so. Can’t remember him EVER doing any media. Why’s he’s captain is beyond me. Never shown any leadership on or off the pitch and when things aren’t going well that really shows the men from the boys. George, sorry, but you are most definitely a boy. |
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Post by Anders on Oct 26, 2024 23:53:46 GMT
Today hurt me, usually you can find some small thing or two to take from a bad result & performance but I didn’t take anything from that, nothing in the slightest. Bottom of the barrel bad.
Cal is right in that the goals themselves came from mistakes, Harrison should have done better with the first I felt, you can’t account for the hideous error for the second, and maybe it was my view but I wasn’t entirely convinced the penalty was even in the box. That said, the performance was never close to being good enough at any point.
The striking thing was the vicious reaction from the stands, it was like the lid being lifted from a heavily shaken bottle of pop. That must have been brutal for him to endure and witness, mind you anger turned to self deprecating humour in the second half.
Felt sorry for Hunter, throwing him out there to defend Buckley-Ricketts as a pure right back was ridiculous, if Kev was fit then then that decision is astounding. He did bomb on when some of us encouraged him to do so but all too often bizarrely ended up drifting inside for some reason. Glad Weeks was hauled off early, awful and I don’t like how he hides behind Glendon to excuse his poor efforts either. Mind you, there’s no defence of Glendon either, who was dreadful. Perhaps, at a push, you could say Caton could somewhat hold his head up higher, who tried quite hard.
Hancox showed a bit of passion when he came on, not sure we’ll see Mottley-Henry again though, sharply pulled up and limped off.
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Post by Lobster on Oct 26, 2024 23:58:06 GMT
Hancox showed a bit of passion when he came on, not sure we’ll see Mottley-Henry again though, sharply pulled up and limped off. Arguably a bit too much passion with that tackle on their impressive number 7 near the end. Thought he was a bit lucky not to see red. Not sure Mottley-Henry is the answer but he at least did something. Felt sorry for him getting hurt, looked like hamstrings? |
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Post by tonya on Oct 27, 2024 0:00:32 GMT
We are only 6 points off the top. Its not time to ponic.
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Post by Forever Blue on Oct 27, 2024 2:31:01 GMT
Did Peers say in his interview when he asked the lads what was up he didn't know where Glendon was ..... did I hear this right From what I heard he says " I am know where near the club captain George Glendon is but it's low confidence " I am asking myself why is Tom Peers even doing that Interview ? Where the fuck is El Capitan ? snuck off again like he did after the match ? he should of gone when he tried to sneak off to Radcliffe in closed season that showed his loyalty to Cal. One thing Cal can do is ditch him and make Connell Rawlinson Captain straight away, Fair play to Tom Peers for having the balls to face the press. Just to add why are the team so low in confidence ? more questions need to be asked from the board and maybe a CFU meeting needs to be held so Cal and the team can answer the fans questions and fast from the owners. |
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Post by Lon on Oct 27, 2024 5:12:02 GMT
Think is time is up now to be fair. But for all those blindly hating him for some time - who do you bring in? Go on. No suggestions. Know your lower league knowledge. Said it after Buxton, we should be moving heaven and earth for John Coleman. Knows a player when he sees one. Love cal but he's made a serious mistake in resigning Glendon, weeks and Murray. Id take billy heath at this point, always gets the better of us it's not rocket science Billy Heath? Got to be one of the worst shouts ever that. |
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Post by tooth on Oct 27, 2024 5:59:54 GMT
Absolutely clueless, never seen a Chester following that toxic but completely justified IMO. We looked like we were a league below Curzon, who were a well coached, athletic team. Cal, Glendon and Weeks can go. Hunter a completely fraud too btw. Need a proper manager in with a clue of what's needed at this level says it all when a 35 year old man is a better option than hunter he does absolutely nothing for me |
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Post by steveo1 on Oct 27, 2024 7:02:56 GMT
A few stats to really consider here as this has been an ongoing since new year. From 1st January to date it’s 38 games which is basically a league season.
Played 38
Won 12
Draw 15
Lost 11
= 51 points
45 goals scored 10 in two games end of season)
34 against
51 points over a season gets you no higher position than 14th over the last 10 years bar two season which would see us relegated and 9th. Even Steve Watson in that season from hell scared led us to 46 points.
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Post by boughtonbliue on Oct 27, 2024 7:15:50 GMT
A few stats to really consider here as this has been an ongoing since new year. From 1st January to date it’s 38 games which is basically a league season. Played 38 Won 12 Draw 15 Lost 11 = 51 points 45 goals scored 10 in two games end of season) 34 against 51 points over a season gets you no higher position than 14th over the last 10 years bar two season which would see us relegated and 9th. Even Steve Watson in that season from hell scared led us to 46 points. So we are averaging 1.3 points per game. Season is 46 games so the total would be 61 or 62 points. |
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Post by steveo1 on Oct 27, 2024 7:30:01 GMT
A few stats to really consider here as this has been an ongoing since new year. From 1st January to date it’s 38 games which is basically a league season. Played 38 Won 12 Draw 15 Lost 11 = 51 points 45 goals scored 10 in two games end of season) 34 against 51 points over a season gets you no higher position than 14th over the last 10 years bar two season which would see us relegated and 9th. Even Steve Watson in that season from hell scared led us to 46 points. So we are averaging 1.3 points per game. Season is 46 games so the total would be 61 or 62 points. The extra hour had thrown me! Yes 46 games be around 61/62 points which gets you around 12-14th over the last two seasons. |
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Post by btb on Oct 27, 2024 7:38:10 GMT
I guess we have 5 or 6 players on decent money and 10 or so on peanuts for football wages Behave. There’s no excuses this year, the budget was competitive, take your head out of cal’s backside. |
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Post by devadiva on Oct 27, 2024 7:56:33 GMT
So we are averaging 1.3 points per game. Season is 46 games so the total would be 61 or 62 points. The extra hour had thrown me! Yes 46 games be around 61/62 points which gets you around 12-14th over the last two seasons. I think that’s a good way of objectively measuring why we all feel the way we do - mid table mediocrity in NLN is not what we aspire to. TBH I don’t think we can realistically sustain better than NL but if we don’t have aspirations/expectations for promotion and continuous improvement we may as well give up and go home. I always thought the definition of a team that was working well was that it amounted to more than the sum of its parts. We have a great squad but we aren’t even performing at the sum of the parts atm and haven’t done at any time in 2024 as the stats show. For a stats man this can’t be news to Cal can it - so why doesn’t he see it?! |
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Post by superhans on Oct 27, 2024 7:57:34 GMT
Said it after Buxton, we should be moving heaven and earth for John Coleman. Knows a player when he sees one. Love cal but he's made a serious mistake in resigning Glendon, weeks and Murray. Id take billy heath at this point, always gets the better of us it's not rocket science Billy Heath? Got to be one of the worst shouts ever that. I was half joking but do you think the football under Cal has been any better than watching Alfreton? They score more goals than us and finished above us last season, same again so far this season. Five games without a goal from open play hasn't been any fun to watch |
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Post by Lon on Oct 27, 2024 8:24:19 GMT
Billy Heath? Got to be one of the worst shouts ever that. I was half joking but do you think the football under Cal has been any better than watching Alfreton? They score more goals than us and finished above us last season, same again so far this season. Five games without a goal from open play hasn't been any fun to watch Last two games especially we have been misplacing passes and HOOFING it into the channels to no one to be fair so can see the similarities |
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Post by tonya on Oct 27, 2024 8:37:33 GMT
What a brave and honest insight from Tom, putting this loss into perspective. Day after this now we have to support the team and put it behind us
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Post by 1paulcarden on Oct 27, 2024 8:44:55 GMT
Billy Heath? Got to be one of the worst shouts ever that. I was half joking but do you think the football under Cal has been any better than watching Alfreton? They score more goals than us and finished above us last season, same again so far this season. Five games without a goal from open play hasn't been any fun to watch Exactly. Anyone who thinks we play attractive football hasn’t been watching us for 3 seasons. We basically play Heath football without the players to do it. Insanity. |
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Post by johnytwodogs on Oct 27, 2024 8:53:47 GMT
Was Willoughby injured or dropped, I bet he regrets ever telling cal he had a long throw, he has looked as if he is not enjoying his football, should never be isolated on the wing he needs the freedom to roam to get the best from him.
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Post by waggoner on Oct 27, 2024 9:08:11 GMT
What a brave and honest insight from Tom, putting this loss into perspective. Day after this now we have to support the team and put it behind us Put it behind us? What we are seeing is not new, it happened last season too. The team is in freefall unbalanced not physical enough and lacking height and width We have a stubborn manager who lives off stats keeps saying “I is down to me I take responsibility for the performance “ but doesn’t explain how he is going to fix it. He is a youth team manager trying to play youth team tactics against tough hardened men and it shows when we get bullied off the ball The squad itself is full of players with good technical ability but football is not just about that CMC has lost the fan base and once that happens there is no going back. The worry is that the hostility will start to trickle into the boardroom and destabilise the club We are at a cross roads have the board got the bottle to deal with it? |
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Post by tooth on Oct 27, 2024 9:16:31 GMT
What a brave and honest insight from Tom, putting this loss into perspective. Day after this now we have to support the team and put it behind us if they actually give us a performance to get excited about then we would get behind the team but there is nothing to be positive about |
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Post by eltonblues on Oct 27, 2024 9:39:20 GMT
Was Willoughby injured or dropped, I bet he regrets ever telling cal he had a long throw, he has looked as if he is not enjoying his football, should never be isolated on the wing he needs the freedom to roam to get the best from him. I think he took a knock on Tuesday. Interesting that last season Chester fans were watching Oldham playing Kurt out wide being ineffective and now he's here he has been popped out wide 🤷 |
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Post by blue4life on Oct 27, 2024 10:43:09 GMT
We are only 6 points off the top. Its not time to ponic. That's ok then, next time they get a hammering we'll applaud them off. |
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Post by RonD on Oct 27, 2024 10:45:55 GMT
About 700 Curzon fans there and they're top of the League. Won't be long before another Club comes in for Mahon. More like 700+ Chester, in that 1,063. Great turnout considering how poor we have been of late. |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Oct 27, 2024 10:48:14 GMT
The below from Waggoner sums up in my opinion exactly why he sadly needs to go asap excellent post absolutely spot on
Put it behind us? What we are seeing is not new, it happened last season too. The team is in freefall unbalanced not physical enough and lacking height and width
We have a stubborn manager who lives off stats keeps saying “I is down to me I take responsibility for the performance “ but doesn’t explain how he is going to fix it.
He is a youth team manager trying to play youth team tactics against tough hardened men and it shows when we get bullied off the ball
The squad itself is full of players with good technical ability but football is not just about that
CMC has lost the fan base and once that happens there is no going back. The worry is that the hostility will start to trickle into the boardroom and destabilise the club
We are at a cross roads have the board got the bottle to deal with it?
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Post by luckyblue on Oct 27, 2024 10:49:36 GMT
Was Willoughby injured or dropped, I bet he regrets ever telling cal he had a long throw, he has looked as if he is not enjoying his football, should never be isolated on the wing he needs the freedom to roam to get the best from him. I think he took a knock on Tuesday. Interesting that last season Chester fans were watching Oldham playing Kurt out wide being ineffective and now he's here he has been popped out wide 🤷 Deffo took a knock on Tuesday night. He was limping and grimacing as he headed towards the dugout at the final whistle. |
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Post by thetheremin on Oct 27, 2024 11:09:14 GMT
What a brave and honest insight from Tom, putting this loss into perspective. Day after this now we have to support the team and put it behind us Put it behind us? What we are seeing is not new, it happened last season too. The team is in freefall unbalanced not physical enough and lacking height and width We have a stubborn manager who lives off stats keeps saying “I is down to me I take responsibility for the performance “ but doesn’t explain how he is going to fix it. He is a youth team manager trying to play youth team tactics against tough hardened men and it shows when we get bullied off the ball The squad itself is full of players with good technical ability but football is not just about that CMC has lost the fan base and once that happens there is no going back. The worry is that the hostility will start to trickle into the boardroom and destabilise the club We are at a cross roads have the board got the bottle to deal with it? At the very least we are gravitating back to negative (I.e. not attacking) tactics to grind out narrow victories but we now it is going to result in endless 0-0 draws and probable 0-1 home defeats against clubs that have brought 15 fans. I think that is one thing fans are worried about. It is rubbish to watch, literally every manager in this division from top to bottom knows how to win against our telegraphed tactics, and it repeatedly breaks the spirit of the support week in week out. After first two games I thought we turned a corner and the tactics changed but now Cal is settling back to the tactics he seems more comfortable with, but the wrong tactics that really ignore the psychology of football supporters and the needs of the club as a business as the crowds will tank lower and lower. Something has to change and there is only a few games to do it. I desperately want Cal to succeed but he doesn’t my seem to know what to do to change this in-game and from game to game. Like I said a few games max. |
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Post by annonymous on Oct 27, 2024 12:28:19 GMT
Southport fan here. Would you guys swap Cal for Bentley right now if you got offered it?
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Post by weareblues on Oct 27, 2024 12:35:24 GMT
I guess we have 5 or 6 players on decent money and 10 or so on peanuts for football wages Behave. There’s no excuses this year, the budget was competitive, take your head out of cal’s backside. Usually I’m the first to admit we need investment but this season it’s nothing to do with money it’s to do with repetitive negative tactics. Our summer recruitment was the strongest we’ve had since being back down here Said before Cal got appointed the best option to take us back to the NL would be someone experienced like Jim Gannon |
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Post by beavis on Oct 27, 2024 13:08:27 GMT
Behave. There’s no excuses this year, the budget was competitive, take your head out of cal’s backside. Usually I’m the first to admit we need investment but this season it’s nothing to do with money it’s to do with repetitive negative tactics. Our summer recruitment was the strongest we’ve had since being back down here Said before Cal got appointed the best option to take us back to the NL would be someone experienced like Jim Gannon Christ, if Billy Heath and Jim Gannon who *checks notes* hasn't managed for nearly three years, are two of the suggestions, my suggestion would be to give Cal - a lifelong Chester fan, a new five year contract. Ive said this on numerous occasions in the past, but if anyone on here or who supports Chester in general ever thought the football would be any different than you're seeing now you clearly never watched his youth teams in action. The difference was, he had a target man in Tom Peers (who was bigger than most kids then), LMH and Will Goodwin leading the line for him. All big lumps that could all move at that level. Hes a very pragmatic manager that is so risk averse that he'd rather set up not to lose and hopefully pinch a goal than to try anything to win at any cost. What we're seeing and have seen over the last few seasons is the body of work that Cal has prided his coaching on ever since first starting his coaching journey. At a club like ours, it just doesn't work. As many have said, wed put up with losing games if we knew we were doing everything to try to win. I agree with most on here with regards to Glendon and Weeks, in that they're a conundrum that he hasn't ever solved. DW had his best season under Cal when GG was injured and then when GG had his best season last year, DW underperformed. So far this season, both have been very poor and in my opinion DW more than GG. They have to go! The only way back for Cal now is to see the error of his ways with the two aforementioned players and move them on and at least show that he's taking onboard what everyone else is seeing. |
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