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Post by brooklaneblue on Oct 26, 2024 19:00:57 GMT
I really sympathise with the fans that traveled today, the commentary sounded like we were like rabbits in the headlights.
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Post by borussiachester on Oct 26, 2024 19:22:40 GMT
Cal once personally chastised me for calling the team ‘gutless’ after a game, and so I’ve been loathed to use that word ever since - but if ever there were a performance for which that word were an appropriate descriptor, it’d be today’s. Of course, what more balanced and rational way to express my feelings than a rant about everyone responsible…
Harrison - At fault for one, arguably two, of the goals today. Don’t want to criticise him too heavily as he hasn’t done a lot wrong for us - and his saves later in the game prevented it from being six or seven - but I don’t think he’s on the same level as Tyrer or Stanway.
Hunter - Actually feel sorry for him - he’s completely the wrong player for the style of football we play, and signing him only to try and shoehorn him into a system in which he’s clearly uncomfortable is a failure in recruitment.
Burke - Love the guy, and still don’t think there’s any doubting that he’s got a big future in the game, but he’s been pretty disappointing all season for his own high standards, and today was the worst of the lot.
Rawlinson - Have to eat a dose of humble pie here, having been one of those who called for us to sign him, but we’re a worse team with him on the pitch. Strikes me as the latest in a long line of players to have dropped down a couple of divisions, only to realise this league isn’t the stroll he may have anticipated.
Woodthorpe - Gets away with murder because he ‘gets stuck in’. Said early in the season that, as much as I like him, it was unhelpful for fans to be putting him on a pedestal so soon… and this is why. Been really poor in the last few games, but pretty much has to play by default as he’s the only proper left-back we’ve got (again, a failure in recruitment).
Bainbridge - Player of the season quite comfortably for me so far, but certainly didn’t look it today. For all the good work he does out of possession, he’s clearly limited on the ball, and those limitations were exposed badly by Curzon.
Weeks - Walking testament as to why nobody, regardless of stature, should be given a three-year contract at this level. The fact that he’s been largely underwhelming for the last 18 months makes the board’s decision in this respect seem even dafter now than it did at the time.
Glendon - Made my feelings on the lad clear over the years - on the whole, I think he’s been a good player for us, and has often been unfairly scapegoated - but I’m far beyond the point of trying to defend his performances. Disappearing down the tunnel at full-time and failing to acknowledge the fans is unforgivable.
Turner - Feels harsh to criticise him too much, given that he’s barely played, but totally anonymous today. Very skilful player, but there are doubts over whether he’ll be able to succeed in a system in which he’s pretty isolated, and which places so little emphasis on attacking flair.
Peers - Again, feel sorry for him in some respects, as he’s clearly ill-suited to the role he’s being asked to play, but the long and short of it is that, with all due respect, he isn’t good enough to lead the line for a team aiming for promotion.
Caton - One of the few players who actually tried to make something happen this afternoon, admittedly, but there needs to be a discussion about where he’s at in his development and what he brings to the team. Clearly extremely talented, but he’s a massive ‘confidence player’, who’ll go on a scoring streak and then drop off the mark and have a run of games where he offers very little. Matters aren’t being helped by the fact he’s being increasingly used as a mere ‘workhorse’, in the hope that his pace alone will give us the spark we otherwise lack.
Cal - Absolutely hate calling for anyone to lose their job, especially when it’s someone who’s worked so tirelessly for, and is so passionate about the club - but I’m beginning to feel as though a mutual parting of the ways would be in everyone’s best interests (and I genuinely mean a decision that’s mutual in every sense of the word, not a sacking). Seems as though he’s begun to lose the dressing room, if their performances and body language are anything to go by, and he’s now begun to lose a good chunk of the fanbase too. I think we all came to the realisation long ago that he wasn’t going to suddenly have some Damascene conversion to attacking football, but what worries me above all is that all belief seems to have drained out of the club, and I’m not convinced he has the answers on how to change that - especially after today’s showing, when we were totally bamboozled by everything Curzon threw at us. His comments, and general demeanour, in his interview give me the impression that he’s not entirely convinced he’ll still be here come next Saturday. Worth noting that Bern and Jonno were given 15 games (albeit in a slightly shorter season), and the general consensus was that the decision should’ve been made earlier so as to give their successor a fighting chance of clawing things back.
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Post by agl on Oct 26, 2024 19:35:51 GMT
Cal once personally chastised me for calling the team ‘gutless’ after a game, and so I’ve been loathed to use that word ever since - but if ever there were a performance for which that word were an appropriate descriptor, it’d be today’s. Of course, what more balanced and rational way to express my feelings than a rant about everyone responsible… Harrison - At fault for one, arguably two, of the goals today. Don’t want to criticise him too heavily as he hasn’t done a lot wrong for us - and his saves later in the game prevented it from being six or seven - but I don’t think he’s on the same level as Tyrer or Stanway. Hunter - Actually feel sorry for him - he’s completely the wrong player for the style of football we play, and signing him only to try and shoehorn him into a system in which he’s clearly uncomfortable is a failure in recruitment. Burke - Love the guy, and still don’t think there’s any doubting that he’s got a big future in the game, but he’s been pretty disappointing all season for his own high standards, and today was the worst of the lot. Rawlinson - Have to eat a dose of humble pie here, having been one of those who called for us to sign him, but we’re a worse team with him on the pitch. Strikes me as the latest in a long line of players to have dropped down a couple of divisions, only to realise this league isn’t the stroll he may have anticipated. Woodthorpe - Gets away with murder because he ‘gets stuck in’. Said early in the season that, as much as I like him, it was unhelpful for fans to be putting him on a pedestal so soon… and this is why. Been really poor in the last few games, but pretty much has to play by default as he’s the only proper left-back we’ve got (again, a failure in recruitment). Bainbridge - Player of the season quite comfortably for me so far, but certainly didn’t look it today. For all the good work he does out of possession, he’s clearly limited on the ball, and those limitations were exposed badly by Curzon. Weeks - Walking testament as to why nobody, regardless of stature, should be given a three-year contract at this level. The fact that he’s been largely underwhelming for the last 18 months makes the board’s decision in this respect seem even dafter now than it did at the time. Glendon - Made my feelings on the lad clear over the years - on the whole, I think he’s been a good player for us, and has often been unfairly scapegoated - but I’m far beyond the point of trying to defend his performances. Disappearing down the tunnel at full-time and failing to acknowledge the fans is unforgivable. Turner - Feels harsh to criticise him too much, given that he’s barely played, but totally anonymous today. Very skilful player, but there are doubts over whether he’ll be able to succeed in a system in which he’s pretty isolated, and which places so little emphasis on attacking flair. Peers - Again, feel sorry for him in some respects, as he’s clearly ill-suited to the role he’s being asked to play, but the long and short of it is that, with all due respect, he isn’t good enough to lead the line for a team aiming for promotion. Caton - One of the few players who actually tried to make something happen this afternoon, admittedly, but there needs to be a discussion about where he’s at in his development and what he brings to the team. Clearly extremely talented, but he’s a massive ‘confidence player’, who’ll go on a scoring streak and then drop off the mark and have a run of games where he offers very little. Matters aren’t being helped by the fact he’s being increasingly used as a mere ‘workhorse’, in the hope that his pace alone will give us the spark we otherwise lack. Cal - Absolutely hate calling for anyone to lose their job, especially when it’s someone who’s worked so tirelessly for, and is so passionate about the club - but I’m beginning to feel as though a mutual parting of the ways would be in everyone’s best interests (and I genuinely mean a decision that’s mutual in every sense of the word, not a sacking). Seems as though he’s begun to lose the dressing room, if their performances and body language are anything to go by, and he’s now begun to lose a good chunk of the fanbase too. I think we all came to the realisation long ago that he wasn’t going to suddenly have some Damascene conversion to attacking football, but what worries me above all is that all belief seems to have drained out of the club, and I’m not convinced he has the answers on how to change that - especially after today’s showing, when we were totally bamboozled by everything Curzon threw at us. His comments, and general demeanour, in his interview give me the impression that he’s not entirely convinced he’ll still be here come next Saturday. Worth noting that Bern and Jonno were given 15 games (albeit in a slightly shorter season), and the general consensus was that the decision should’ve been made earlier so as to give their successor a fighting chance of clawing things back. You've basically caned every player there. Cal must be doing a brilliant job to get anything out of them🤣
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Post by Lon on Oct 26, 2024 19:47:33 GMT
Cal once personally chastised me for calling the team ‘gutless’ after a game, and so I’ve been loathed to use that word ever since - but if ever there were a performance for which that word were an appropriate descriptor, it’d be today’s. Of course, what more balanced and rational way to express my feelings than a rant about everyone responsible… Harrison - At fault for one, arguably two, of the goals today. Don’t want to criticise him too heavily as he hasn’t done a lot wrong for us - and his saves later in the game prevented it from being six or seven - but I don’t think he’s on the same level as Tyrer or Stanway. Hunter - Actually feel sorry for him - he’s completely the wrong player for the style of football we play, and signing him only to try and shoehorn him into a system in which he’s clearly uncomfortable is a failure in recruitment. Burke - Love the guy, and still don’t think there’s any doubting that he’s got a big future in the game, but he’s been pretty disappointing all season for his own high standards, and today was the worst of the lot. Rawlinson - Have to eat a dose of humble pie here, having been one of those who called for us to sign him, but we’re a worse team with him on the pitch. Strikes me as the latest in a long line of players to have dropped down a couple of divisions, only to realise this league isn’t the stroll he may have anticipated. Woodthorpe - Gets away with murder because he ‘gets stuck in’. Said early in the season that, as much as I like him, it was unhelpful for fans to be putting him on a pedestal so soon… and this is why. Been really poor in the last few games, but pretty much has to play by default as he’s the only proper left-back we’ve got (again, a failure in recruitment). Bainbridge - Player of the season quite comfortably for me so far, but certainly didn’t look it today. For all the good work he does out of possession, he’s clearly limited on the ball, and those limitations were exposed badly by Curzon. Weeks - Walking testament as to why nobody, regardless of stature, should be given a three-year contract at this level. The fact that he’s been largely underwhelming for the last 18 months makes the board’s decision in this respect seem even dafter now than it did at the time. Glendon - Made my feelings on the lad clear over the years - on the whole, I think he’s been a good player for us, and has often been unfairly scapegoated - but I’m far beyond the point of trying to defend his performances. Disappearing down the tunnel at full-time and failing to acknowledge the fans is unforgivable. Turner - Feels harsh to criticise him too much, given that he’s barely played, but totally anonymous today. Very skilful player, but there are doubts over whether he’ll be able to succeed in a system in which he’s pretty isolated, and which places so little emphasis on attacking flair. Peers - Again, feel sorry for him in some respects, as he’s clearly ill-suited to the role he’s being asked to play, but the long and short of it is that, with all due respect, he isn’t good enough to lead the line for a team aiming for promotion. Caton - One of the few players who actually tried to make something happen this afternoon, admittedly, but there needs to be a discussion about where he’s at in his development and what he brings to the team. Clearly extremely talented, but he’s a massive ‘confidence player’, who’ll go on a scoring streak and then drop off the mark and have a run of games where he offers very little. Matters aren’t being helped by the fact he’s being increasingly used as a mere ‘workhorse’, in the hope that his pace alone will give us the spark we otherwise lack. Cal - Absolutely hate calling for anyone to lose their job, especially when it’s someone who’s worked so tirelessly for, and is so passionate about the club - but I’m beginning to feel as though a mutual parting of the ways would be in everyone’s best interests (and I genuinely mean a decision that’s mutual in every sense of the word, not a sacking). Seems as though he’s begun to lose the dressing room, if their performances and body language are anything to go by, and he’s now begun to lose a good chunk of the fanbase too. I think we all came to the realisation long ago that he wasn’t going to suddenly have some Damascene conversion to attacking football, but what worries me above all is that all belief seems to have drained out of the club, and I’m not convinced he has the answers on how to change that - especially after today’s showing, when we were totally bamboozled by everything Curzon threw at us. His comments, and general demeanour, in his interview give me the impression that he’s not entirely convinced he’ll still be here come next Saturday. Worth noting that Bern and Jonno were given 15 games (albeit in a slightly shorter season), and the general consensus was that the decision should’ve been made earlier so as to give their successor a fighting chance of clawing things back. You've basically caned every player there. Cal must be doing a brilliant job to get anything out of them🤣 Isn’t wrong though is he 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by brooklaneblue on Oct 26, 2024 19:50:47 GMT
No idea how Curzon manage this when we've got 8x the budget. really........maybe their manager has a better pedigree than ours and doesn't suck up to piss poor performances week in week out from his players... just saying Mr.
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Post by tooth on Oct 26, 2024 19:51:04 GMT
Cal once personally chastised me for calling the team ‘gutless’ after a game, and so I’ve been loathed to use that word ever since - but if ever there were a performance for which that word were an appropriate descriptor, it’d be today’s. Of course, what more balanced and rational way to express my feelings than a rant about everyone responsible… Harrison - At fault for one, arguably two, of the goals today. Don’t want to criticise him too heavily as he hasn’t done a lot wrong for us - and his saves later in the game prevented it from being six or seven - but I don’t think he’s on the same level as Tyrer or Stanway. Hunter - Actually feel sorry for him - he’s completely the wrong player for the style of football we play, and signing him only to try and shoehorn him into a system in which he’s clearly uncomfortable is a failure in recruitment. Burke - Love the guy, and still don’t think there’s any doubting that he’s got a big future in the game, but he’s been pretty disappointing all season for his own high standards, and today was the worst of the lot. Rawlinson - Have to eat a dose of humble pie here, having been one of those who called for us to sign him, but we’re a worse team with him on the pitch. Strikes me as the latest in a long line of players to have dropped down a couple of divisions, only to realise this league isn’t the stroll he may have anticipated. Woodthorpe - Gets away with murder because he ‘gets stuck in’. Said early in the season that, as much as I like him, it was unhelpful for fans to be putting him on a pedestal so soon… and this is why. Been really poor in the last few games, but pretty much has to play by default as he’s the only proper left-back we’ve got (again, a failure in recruitment). Bainbridge - Player of the season quite comfortably for me so far, but certainly didn’t look it today. For all the good work he does out of possession, he’s clearly limited on the ball, and those limitations were exposed badly by Curzon. Weeks - Walking testament as to why nobody, regardless of stature, should be given a three-year contract at this level. The fact that he’s been largely underwhelming for the last 18 months makes the board’s decision in this respect seem even dafter now than it did at the time. Glendon - Made my feelings on the lad clear over the years - on the whole, I think he’s been a good player for us, and has often been unfairly scapegoated - but I’m far beyond the point of trying to defend his performances. Disappearing down the tunnel at full-time and failing to acknowledge the fans is unforgivable. Turner - Feels harsh to criticise him too much, given that he’s barely played, but totally anonymous today. Very skilful player, but there are doubts over whether he’ll be able to succeed in a system in which he’s pretty isolated, and which places so little emphasis on attacking flair. Peers - Again, feel sorry for him in some respects, as he’s clearly ill-suited to the role he’s being asked to play, but the long and short of it is that, with all due respect, he isn’t good enough to lead the line for a team aiming for promotion. Caton - One of the few players who actually tried to make something happen this afternoon, admittedly, but there needs to be a discussion about where he’s at in his development and what he brings to the team. Clearly extremely talented, but he’s a massive ‘confidence player’, who’ll go on a scoring streak and then drop off the mark and have a run of games where he offers very little. Matters aren’t being helped by the fact he’s being increasingly used as a mere ‘workhorse’, in the hope that his pace alone will give us the spark we otherwise lack. Cal - Absolutely hate calling for anyone to lose their job, especially when it’s someone who’s worked so tirelessly for, and is so passionate about the club - but I’m beginning to feel as though a mutual parting of the ways would be in everyone’s best interests (and I genuinely mean a decision that’s mutual in every sense of the word, not a sacking). Seems as though he’s begun to lose the dressing room, if their performances and body language are anything to go by, and he’s now begun to lose a good chunk of the fanbase too. I think we all came to the realisation long ago that he wasn’t going to suddenly have some Damascene conversion to attacking football, but what worries me above all is that all belief seems to have drained out of the club, and I’m not convinced he has the answers on how to change that - especially after today’s showing, when we were totally bamboozled by everything Curzon threw at us. His comments, and general demeanour, in his interview give me the impression that he’s not entirely convinced he’ll still be here come next Saturday. Worth noting that Bern and Jonno were given 15 games (albeit in a slightly shorter season), and the general consensus was that the decision should’ve been made earlier so as to give their successor a fighting chance of clawing things back. your right apart from hunter nowhere near good enoy
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Post by brooklaneblue on Oct 26, 2024 19:56:10 GMT
save our season ... sack him now embarrassing this club cant afford to sack him and the alternative is sink?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Oct 26, 2024 19:56:27 GMT
Is Mahon your love child? You've been consistently posting him for manager for weeks now. Have you got money on it? 😂 To put things into some sort of perspective, Mahon is employed full time in the Wigan Athletic Academy and has been for years. It is difficult to believe he would pack that in to come to Chester for 2 or 3 years. Our new training facility means we need to train during the day. So I just don't see how your wishful thinking could work. It's a pity as the type of team he's put together at Curzon seems a better fit for NLN than the one we have. Put some of our better players in there too, and it would really effective. Someone posted that John Coleman nearly went for the Stalybridge job. It seems unlikely but, if true, he'd be a serious option. To be fair I haven’t actually been calling for him because I haven’t been calling for the current manager to go. The above post was tongue-in-cheek and previous thread about Mahon was simply admiring what a brilliant job a club legend is doing.
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Post by archwhopper on Oct 26, 2024 19:58:52 GMT
Are Kevlar, Archwhopper and TheShed the same poster? Suspicious activity there. What do you base that on I have been a Chester supporter for over 60 years which is probably more than the other 2 and you put together i got 48 years behind watching 60% dross and because i am an old dinosaur unable to use my mobile to nathan/mancot/frank's high standards i/we are obviously the same poster,
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Post by Anders on Oct 26, 2024 19:59:40 GMT
We've lost our last two away games by an aggregate of 1-7. The goal we scored was a last minute free kick. Torn to pieces in both.
We can always get beat, but I don't think Calum has been battered like this before from my memory.
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Post by brooklaneblue on Oct 26, 2024 20:06:39 GMT
Worse performance I’ve seen in my 30 years of watching Chester. He’s clearly lost the dressing room and now he’s lost the Fanbase, no way back from here! Serious questions need to asked or are we just happy to be a mid table regional football outfit? maybe 5-0 at Shrewsbury was a 1 goal more shit storm
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Post by muchwenlock2 on Oct 26, 2024 20:10:03 GMT
We have never played that well with both Weeks and Glendon in the team time to pick one and bin off the other . The captain shouldn't be running off down the tunnel at full time and letting another player do post match interviews
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 26, 2024 20:11:49 GMT
Is Mahon your love child? You've been consistently posting him for manager for weeks now. Have you got money on it? 😂 To put things into some sort of perspective, Mahon is employed full time in the Wigan Athletic Academy and has been for years. It is difficult to believe he would pack that in to come to Chester for 2 or 3 years. Our new training facility means we need to train during the day. So I just don't see how your wishful thinking could work. It's a pity as the type of team he's put together at Curzon seems a better fit for NLN than the one we have. Put some of our better players in there too, and it would really effective. Someone posted that John Coleman nearly went for the Stalybridge job. It seems unlikely but, if true, he'd be a serious option. To be fair I haven’t actually been calling for him because I haven’t been calling for the current manager to go. The above post was tongue-in-cheek and previous thread about Mahon was simply admiring what a brilliant job a club legend is doing. I realised the last post was probably tongue in cheek. It was the last in a long line though............. Fair point about the job he's doing though.
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 26, 2024 20:15:06 GMT
Worse performance I’ve seen in my 30 years of watching Chester. He’s clearly lost the dressing room and now he’s lost the Fanbase, no way back from here! Serious questions need to asked or are we just happy to be a mid table regional football outfit? maybe 5-0 at Shrewsbury was a 1 goal more shit storm Halifax under McCarthy when we were 5 down after about 25 minutes? That was the worst performance I can remember. Maybe I've blanked worse from my memory.
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Post by theshed1 on Oct 26, 2024 20:18:41 GMT
What do you base that on I have been a Chester supporter for over 60 years which is probably more than the other 2 and you put together i got 48 years behind watching 60% dross and because i am an old dinosaur unable to use my mobile to nathan/mancot/frank's high standards i/we are obviously the same poster, So me and you are of the same era when we would air our differences face to face not like today's faceless keyboard warriors I wonder what sort of conversation we would have them face to face
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Post by Al on Oct 26, 2024 20:18:47 GMT
maybe 5-0 at Shrewsbury was a 1 goal more shit storm Halifax under McCarthy when we were 5 down after about 25 minutes? That was the worst performance I can remember. Maybe I've blanked worse from my memory. Witton away in the fa trophy was pretty dire
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Post by Anders on Oct 26, 2024 20:27:23 GMT
maybe 5-0 at Shrewsbury was a 1 goal more shit storm Halifax under McCarthy when we were 5 down after about 25 minutes? That was the worst performance I can remember. Maybe I've blanked worse from my memory. Bignot that was, just before Christmas. The other two worst since reformation are Kiddy in the FA Cup and Solihull which was McCarthy's last game in my opinion. Not just terrible on the pitch but sizeable followings where we all lost our rags.
People will assume Blyth, but that was a weird game where they had 8 shots and scored them all. Telford the game after was worse.
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Post by brooklaneblue on Oct 26, 2024 20:35:13 GMT
i got 48 years behind watching 60% dross and because i am an old dinosaur unable to use my mobile to nathan/mancot/frank's high standards i/we are obviously the same poster, So me and you are of the same era when we would air our differences face to face not like today's faceless keyboard warriors I wonder what sort of conversation we would have them face to face oh yes Christmas time I was there, that was a piss poor time too.
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Post by archwhopper on Oct 26, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
Think is time is up now to be fair. But for all those blindly hating him for some time - who do you bring in? Go on. No suggestions. Know your lower league knowledge. One thing I do know I think we can forget Mahon we can’t cover the wages for two jobs and he is at Wigan during the day were never going to get the carpark tarmaced properly unless we get mahony in, mates rates and all, or are we still waiting for the russians to cough up after they had 4000 tonne of steel behind the harry macc a few summers ago, at least the ducks love the lake in the crater they left behind
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 26, 2024 20:47:59 GMT
Halifax under McCarthy when we were 5 down after about 25 minutes? That was the worst performance I can remember. Maybe I've blanked worse from my memory. Bignot that was, just before Christmas. The other two worst since reformation are Kiddy in the FA Cup and Solihull which was McCarthy's last game in my opinion. Not just terrible on the pitch but sizeable followings where we all lost our rags.
People will assume Blyth, but that was a weird game where they had 8 shots and scored them all. Telford the game after was worse.
Ah. I've been blaming McCarthy for that one. Told you I've tried to blank them out.
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Post by brooklaneblue on Oct 26, 2024 20:52:38 GMT
Halifax was a McCarthy team.
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Post by archwhopper on Oct 26, 2024 20:59:21 GMT
i got 48 years behind watching 60% dross and because i am an old dinosaur unable to use my mobile to nathan/mancot/frank's high standards i/we are obviously the same poster, So me and you are of the same era when we would air our differences face to face not like today's faceless keyboard warriors I wonder what sort of conversation we would have them face to face unfortuantly my freind the world is very differant now and with the fear of being called grandad or dinosaur i would not want to upset our younger keyboard warriors, but they would find it hard to talk with a mouthful of fist
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Post by boughtonbliue on Oct 26, 2024 21:07:03 GMT
Halifax was a McCarthy team. 4 down by half time I think
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Post by superhans on Oct 26, 2024 21:23:01 GMT
Think is time is up now to be fair. But for all those blindly hating him for some time - who do you bring in? Go on. No suggestions. Know your lower league knowledge. Said it after Buxton, we should be moving heaven and earth for John Coleman. Knows a player when he sees one. Love cal but he's made a serious mistake in resigning Glendon, weeks and Murray. Id take billy heath at this point, always gets the better of us it's not rocket science
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Post by loskasleftfoot on Oct 26, 2024 21:29:19 GMT
Luckily I wasn't there today. Unluckily I was there for the past 4 home games were performances peaked at piss-poor. It is clear that Callum is struggling. I wonder if now is the time to bring in an old head to guide him through the coming months. He may emerge a better manager.
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Post by Simmo on Oct 26, 2024 21:34:15 GMT
A change must be made quickly before the season is a complete right off. Not so sure about Billy Heath though!
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Post by superhans on Oct 26, 2024 21:41:30 GMT
Thing is with Cal it's looking like he doesn't have the bottle or tactical nous to drop or release one of Glendon or weeks. Said it all when somehow both started today despite recent performances, feel for them slightly as we have no width at all but again is that their fault or the manager's?
But it goes way beyond that, Buckley-Rickets (Curzons no. 7) is type of player we've been calling out for. Was sad to see Curzon sign him from Warrington after he did well against us last season for them. Nobody could tell me he's on more than Weeks, Glendon, Rawlinson or Peers etc.
I'm sick of Cal making out we're playing some unreal side when realistically we have a very competitive budget
Just really poor player recruitment and tactics for us. If Cal stays he won't change personnel or tactics, he's shown that again today. I'm sorry but he's miles off it and nothing will change. The time for change was after the awful end to last season but here we are.
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Post by Lobster on Oct 26, 2024 21:48:58 GMT
For once I’ll agree with you. Went straight down the tunnel today didn’t even come to face the music. Lost an awful lot of respect from me then. Glendon has been here a looooong time. He's been the captain for most of that time, and everything seems to go through him. We've not got promoted in that time. The closest we've got is the season where he didn't kick a ball. He is a talented player but is that enough? Is anyone else after him? Who would he have gone to if we hadn't kept him on? Radcliffe?
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Post by Lobster on Oct 26, 2024 22:02:51 GMT
Cal once personally chastised me for calling the team ‘gutless’ after a game, and so I’ve been loathed to use that word ever since - but if ever there were a performance for which that word were an appropriate descriptor, it’d be today’s. Of course, what more balanced and rational way to express my feelings than a rant about everyone responsible… Harrison - At fault for one, arguably two, of the goals today. Don’t want to criticise him too heavily as he hasn’t done a lot wrong for us - and his saves later in the game prevented it from being six or seven - but I don’t think he’s on the same level as Tyrer or Stanway. Hunter - Actually feel sorry for him - he’s completely the wrong player for the style of football we play, and signing him only to try and shoehorn him into a system in which he’s clearly uncomfortable is a failure in recruitment. Burke - Love the guy, and still don’t think there’s any doubting that he’s got a big future in the game, but he’s been pretty disappointing all season for his own high standards, and today was the worst of the lot. Rawlinson - Have to eat a dose of humble pie here, having been one of those who called for us to sign him, but we’re a worse team with him on the pitch. Strikes me as the latest in a long line of players to have dropped down a couple of divisions, only to realise this league isn’t the stroll he may have anticipated. Woodthorpe - Gets away with murder because he ‘gets stuck in’. Said early in the season that, as much as I like him, it was unhelpful for fans to be putting him on a pedestal so soon… and this is why. Been really poor in the last few games, but pretty much has to play by default as he’s the only proper left-back we’ve got (again, a failure in recruitment). Bainbridge - Player of the season quite comfortably for me so far, but certainly didn’t look it today. For all the good work he does out of possession, he’s clearly limited on the ball, and those limitations were exposed badly by Curzon. Weeks - Walking testament as to why nobody, regardless of stature, should be given a three-year contract at this level. The fact that he’s been largely underwhelming for the last 18 months makes the board’s decision in this respect seem even dafter now than it did at the time. Glendon - Made my feelings on the lad clear over the years - on the whole, I think he’s been a good player for us, and has often been unfairly scapegoated - but I’m far beyond the point of trying to defend his performances. Disappearing down the tunnel at full-time and failing to acknowledge the fans is unforgivable. Turner - Feels harsh to criticise him too much, given that he’s barely played, but totally anonymous today. Very skilful player, but there are doubts over whether he’ll be able to succeed in a system in which he’s pretty isolated, and which places so little emphasis on attacking flair. Peers - Again, feel sorry for him in some respects, as he’s clearly ill-suited to the role he’s being asked to play, but the long and short of it is that, with all due respect, he isn’t good enough to lead the line for a team aiming for promotion. Caton - One of the few players who actually tried to make something happen this afternoon, admittedly, but there needs to be a discussion about where he’s at in his development and what he brings to the team. Clearly extremely talented, but he’s a massive ‘confidence player’, who’ll go on a scoring streak and then drop off the mark and have a run of games where he offers very little. Matters aren’t being helped by the fact he’s being increasingly used as a mere ‘workhorse’, in the hope that his pace alone will give us the spark we otherwise lack. Cal - Absolutely hate calling for anyone to lose their job, especially when it’s someone who’s worked so tirelessly for, and is so passionate about the club - but I’m beginning to feel as though a mutual parting of the ways would be in everyone’s best interests (and I genuinely mean a decision that’s mutual in every sense of the word, not a sacking). Seems as though he’s begun to lose the dressing room, if their performances and body language are anything to go by, and he’s now begun to lose a good chunk of the fanbase too. I think we all came to the realisation long ago that he wasn’t going to suddenly have some Damascene conversion to attacking football, but what worries me above all is that all belief seems to have drained out of the club, and I’m not convinced he has the answers on how to change that - especially after today’s showing, when we were totally bamboozled by everything Curzon threw at us. His comments, and general demeanour, in his interview give me the impression that he’s not entirely convinced he’ll still be here come next Saturday. Worth noting that Bern and Jonno were given 15 games (albeit in a slightly shorter season), and the general consensus was that the decision should’ve been made earlier so as to give their successor a fighting chance of clawing things back. You've basically caned every player there. Cal must be doing a brilliant job to get anything out of them🤣 Well, he didn't get anything out of them today. And he signed 8 of these players , and 2 of the 3 he didn't he seems to have unwavering faith in despite them playing like clowns.
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Post by Lobster on Oct 26, 2024 22:12:59 GMT
Worse performance I’ve seen in my 30 years of watching Chester. He’s clearly lost the dressing room and now he’s lost the Fanbase, no way back from here! Serious questions need to asked or are we just happy to be a mid table regional football outfit? maybe 5-0 at Shrewsbury was a 1 goal more shit storm I've seen us get battered by teams like Shrewsbury, Carlisle and Rochdale, but you kind of felt like they were teams on our level and that was just the way it was sometimes. It's really hard to get twatted by Curzon Ashton and hold your head high. I actually have a lot of respect for them. They have decent facilities, recruit wisely and always seem to manage a decent cup run. But there's no reason why they should be so comfortably better than us. That was dreadful. First half an hour was like what you'd get if you dragged a bunch of lads out of bed who had been on a Friday night bended, chucked a kit on them and told them to get out there. We seemed to sober up after that and in isolation we weren't that bad second half, but it was still the same ponderous crap we've seen for god knows how long and it isn't good enough. I've described recent performances as "not good enough", as in not what a team going from promotion needs, but that was another level of shite. It would've been a piss poor showing from a newly promoted team, let alone one of the pre-season favourites for promotion. There is plenty of talent in this team. Someone can get them promoted. Calum has until Christmas to show some indication that it's him, for me.
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