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Post by Hannibal on Aug 8, 2017 21:29:06 GMT
Pleased that we managed a point against a very good Fylde team. Astles m-o-m by a mile. Their 50 goal No 9 hardly had a touch. Mahon was embarrassing at times. Lots of positives, but as said above we invited pressure at the end and only a worldie by Mitchell saved us a point. Good games from White, James, and a few others. We need to do something about losing possession so easily.
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Post by Lobster on Aug 8, 2017 21:29:19 GMT
Watched Fylde on Saturday and I thought they were there for the taking. Fully expected a 4-0 win tonight. So yet another failure to keep a clean sheet, and a failure to win against a newly promoted team yet to find their feet. Glad I'm in Germany and couldn't make the match. Will be there on Saturday fully expecting a comfortable win. Anything less will be a joke. A home draw is two points lost against such teams. If you see it differently then I hope you enjoy relegation. I'm sick of the dross served up in 2017, and the myriad of excuses too. If you're happy please don't bother commenting on my post, because I'm sick of your drivel as well!!You're not really grasping the concept of a forum there, are you?
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Post by CH2 on Aug 8, 2017 21:30:44 GMT
Is it just me or have we just continued as we finished last season? I'm trying to be positive and was full of hope after watching us against Port Vale, although only a friendly. Tonight, we saw glimpses of what our players can do and do think we have some very good players, but it seems they are hamstrung by the formation they are being asked to play. I know it is only one game in but I'm already worried. I saw Halifax at the weekend and I'm sure, if we play to our strengths, we'll see our first home win for a while.
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Post by bing on Aug 8, 2017 21:31:26 GMT
Energetic and full of pace. Kept their width in the wingers and always a threat but look like conceding a few as well, expect them to do well this season. We got a decent point in the end, strikers worked hard. Not sure about Chappel even in his cameo he wasn't confident enough to take a shot on with a decent chance. Likes Rowe Turner apart from his one mistake of diving into a tackle that nearly cost us. First Half positive, second half looked short of match fitness. Overall a nice point. Thank you, doesn't sound a bad point for you lot then. Yep - that's how I read it. Fylde had plenty of pace and zipped it around. I can only go on the basis of what I saw tonight and I think it was a good point against an expensively put together side. No shame in admitting that. They might find it tougher on some of the pitches we play on mind you.
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Post by sirfred on Aug 8, 2017 21:32:11 GMT
Was reasonably happy with the performance at half time but we looked out of puff second half playing too deep at times we had no outlet and relied on occasional breaks - I hope we don't play that defensive every game and play with more width - we looked a tad slow second half that might be due to not playing Saturday - some positives though with both White and Akintunde looking sharp and it's good to have the returning Hannah
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 21:37:53 GMT
Thought it was a good point. Fylde were quick, caused Halls all sorts of trouble but he handled it well. Lack of pace in the back four will cost us a few points this season.
White and Akintunde were outstanding. Tough to look past those 2 starting Saturday. Hannah looked hungry but Bell looked nothing like the lad we saw pre season.
Dawson can't half whip a cross in either, he played well, as did Turnbull.
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Post by Si on Aug 8, 2017 21:39:09 GMT
First half was fine, very even. Second half was same old submissive McCarthy, sitting back and soaking up as if we are the away team and I'm so bored of it. We had over 2000 tonight and a load of young lads on the Harry Mac ready to sing their hearts out but they need some sort of spark from the team to get them going but the shackles are never released. New players but the same habits are there....allowing teams far too much freedom and inviting teams to attack down the flanks and get crosses in. I'm sure statistically the match might have been pretty even and neither keeper had much to do, but if any team was going to win then it certainly wasn't us. None of the full backs got past the half way line in the second half, it's so negative. LRT looked pretty poor to me if I'm being honest and hardly an improvement on Hunt, and Halls seems to love an aimless punt. I get that McCarthy wants us to be compact and tough to break down but at home we need to show more than that. I miss the days where I looked forward to us shooting towards the Harry Mac as you knew we'd at least put a bit of pressure on the opposition but these days it's far too submissive and quite frankly its boring. I'm willing to cut McCarthy a bit of slack as given the circumstances of the last few days perhaps this should be viewed as a decent point, but it's still a worry that we always set up as an away team. Hopefully we can take the game to Halifax on Saturday and at least have a go at them.
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Post by Maravilla on Aug 8, 2017 21:40:53 GMT
Same old tonight I'm afraid. Aimless hoofing for the majority and then ran out of steam after 70 minutes. Some individual moments of skill but that was about it. Could and should have been another home defeat. The one positive was that it wasn't. We need to start by stopping crosses into the box and then work on being fit for 90 minutes. You don't need to watch a DVD to work that out. I agree that our weakness is in wide areas. We sit very narrow in order to be compact and solid, but the downside of that is you allow space in wide areas. Not an issue if crosses are getting into the box every now and then, but for the last 15 minutes most - if not all - of their crosses made into the box. Eventually one of those crosses will fall for the opposition. Thought we played fairly well for 60 minutes. Clearly ran out of steam towards the end - given they've had an extra fixture, that was inevitable. Only criticism from me is that for the last 25 minutes we just continually gave them the ball back and invited pressure on ourselves. All we needed was for the GK to play it out short or Kingsley James to get on the ball and pass it round in the middle of the pitch for a couple of minutes to stop them building momentum, but we just kept lumping it forward in the hope that Hannah would latch onto it - which he did to be fair toward the end and their left back should have been sent off in my opinion. Imagine we will build on that on Saturday. Fylde looked a good team. They have pace in wide areas, keep the ball well and have a decent all round striker. Can't see them struggling to pick up points once they've found their feet. All in all a decent point, and one I think we will look back on later in the season as a good result.
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Post by sirfred on Aug 8, 2017 21:41:40 GMT
I think it's tough to judge Bell on that cameo as the balls to him were atrocious he never had a chance did he - I think Bell is a good player given decent service
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Post by superman on Aug 8, 2017 21:42:30 GMT
Good open entertaining match, plenty of chances at both ends and result could have gone either way. Chester lost composure and accuracy as they tired but could still have nicked it. Flyde very pacey with plenty of width, will do well on good pitches but may struggle on heavy ground. Harry White very hard working, could become a crowd pleaser with a few goals. Happy with a point from that.
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Post by billyw on Aug 8, 2017 21:42:53 GMT
Same old tonight I'm afraid. Aimless hoofing for the majority and then ran out of steam after 70 minutes. Some individual moments of skill but that was about it. Could and should have been another home defeat. The one positive was that it wasn't. We need to start by stopping crosses into the box and then work on being fit for 90 minutes. You don't need to watch a DVD to work that out. I thought we were good in the first half, played some nice football and matched Fylde but second half saw the same old, hoofing down the middle and I think we were lucky to get a point. On a more positive note, we have the players to give us a decent season and 4 strikers capable of scoring goals but can McCarthy get the best out of them. He can start, as you say, by getting them fitter, as Fylde made us look very pedestrian, particularly in the second half.
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 8, 2017 21:48:06 GMT
We should be fit, we've been training since mid-June. It's an absolute given. We shouldn't be blowing after 70 minutes. It's clearly a tactic to allow players time and space in wide areas as it happened all night and most of last season. At no point does anyone go out and pressure the ball. I'm afraid I was expecting a lot more given the players we had out there. If any of those 4-5 chances had gone in over the last 20 minutes the tone would be different on here tonight. McCarthy needs to prove quickly he is a football manager and not a philosopher. Well done to the lads behind the goal who made an atmosphere - great effort.
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Post by Si on Aug 8, 2017 21:52:30 GMT
Can anyone remember the last time we looked genuinely like a better footballing team than the opposition? I get frustrated that every team that comes here passes and moves so much better than us, and we rely on staying in shape and whacking it forwards quickly hoping the catch them out. Away from home I can see us picking up points, but at home I really want to see us get on the ball more and make something happen.
I was wincing in those final 15 mins as it was just like last season waiting for the inevitable to happen.
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Post by noddy on Aug 8, 2017 21:55:53 GMT
Think most people have summed in up tonight, an ok performance against pretty useful opposition. They were a little sharper than us which I guess is understandable having played Saturday. Agree we have to keep the ball better, and not let sides dominate the ball so much which is what happened too often in home games last season, whether that's a formation or tactical issue I'm not sure. Plenty of positives I thought, Dawson's dead balls were tremendous and Akintunde and White were a handful for an hour. Am happy to cut the boys a little slack tonight, everybody put a shift in. Hopefully we can progress after tonight game and pick up 3 points Saturday against Halifax and dominate the games and ball a little more.
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Post by billyw on Aug 8, 2017 22:04:21 GMT
Can anyone remember the last time we looked genuinely like a better footballing team than the opposition? I get frustrated that every team that comes here passes and moves so much better than us, and we rely on staying in shape and whacking it forwards quickly hoping the catch them out. Away from home I can see us picking up points, but at home I really want to see us get on the ball more and make something happen. I was wincing in those final 15 mins as it was just like last season waiting for the inevitable to happen. Agree with all that and the final 15 minutes was a re-run of every home game since Christmas. We we're ok in the first half but nevertheless Fylde always looked more dangerous and could, or probably should, have beaten us convincingly.
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Post by Matt on Aug 8, 2017 22:06:44 GMT
I thought we played a good team tonight who will definitely be in the top half of the table. Akintunde's skill to trick those 2 defenders was a delight to watch, he could be a real handful this season, I think Turnbull was instrumental through out, Hannah looked really sharp and White looks decent, just lacks a bit of pace but Target men tend to be like that. The only concern at the moment is left back, we need another to cover. Overall I feel optimistic that we'll do ok, but It's only the first game!
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Post by aiguy on Aug 8, 2017 22:06:51 GMT
A really nice touch from the club holding a minute's applause for those fans we have lost. Touch of class there Sorry but I get fed up with minute's applause/silences. They're a modern trend and inappropriate.
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Post by pauly on Aug 8, 2017 22:13:10 GMT
The difference tonight every defender in there team can pass and move there goalkeeper completed more passes than our entire team, every goal kick he rolled it to any defender who had as much time as he liked to find a player of his choice this happened all night, yet when we have the ball we can't build from the back we hoof and hoof again, I don't expect us to batter teams but surly we can play touch and go like they can? Why didn't we stop them having it so easy building from the back? Is good ball going to be the way again this season? Positives we got away with a draw!
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Post by btb on Aug 8, 2017 22:14:11 GMT
I don't agree with all this, they're going to be sharper because they played Saturday. We aren't as sharp because the manager has Molly coddled them through pre season. 45 minute games for the best part and time off if you had a sore toe. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I have always believed you reap through the season what you have sowed through the pre season. Burr did exactly the same. Yes we have small squads but not preparing them properly is also a recipe for injuries when the competitive games start. There will be some sore legs in that dressing room tonight that's for sure.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 8, 2017 22:16:37 GMT
A really nice touch from the club holding a minute's applause for those fans we have lost. Touch of class there We did the "death clap" at the opening game of last season too. It's a nice touch to honour all those Blues who have passed. As for the game, I agree with Si - the first half we looked good going forward and played some good football but I'm unsure how well we dealt with their threat on the break. I was worried that our slow back line was eventually going to be breached by Fylde's pace and their opening goal was expected after the preceding ten minutes. We showed great character to level almost immediately, though, which is something we lacked throughout the whole of last season so that was good to see. The second half was poor though, as Si says Cuckcarthy reverted back to the same system as much of last season allowing Fylde to, frankly, batter us for pretty much the whole second half. Akintunde the star man, our only threat. After tonight suddenly the numbers at the back aren't too much of a concern - it's actually on the wings where I feel we lack something. Still, we haven't lost our first game so that's always a positive.
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Post by Si on Aug 8, 2017 22:20:43 GMT
The difference tonight every defender in there team can pass and move there goalkeeper completed more passes than our entire team, every goal kick he rolled it to any defender who had as much time as he liked to find a player of his choice this happened all night, yet when we have the ball we can't build from the back we hoof and hoof again, I don't expect us to batter teams but surly we can play touch and go like they can? Why didn't we stop them having it so easy building from the back? Is good ball going to be the way again this season? Positives we got away with a draw! Bang on. Their keeper rolled it out, defenders happy to take the pass and knock it amongst themselves until finding an opening in midfield. In all honesty we haven't played like that since the early days of Burr when Kingsley James would come and take the ball off Charnock/Brown/Kay and we would build from there. The following season Burr had a crisis in his footballing philosophy and we have never been a possession based team since then.
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Post by Forever Blue on Aug 8, 2017 22:31:31 GMT
Can anyone remember the last time we looked genuinely like a better footballing team than the opposition? I get frustrated that every team that comes here passes and moves so much better than us, and we rely on staying in shape and whacking it forwards quickly hoping the catch them out. Away from home I can see us picking up points, but at home I really want to see us get on the ball more and make something happen. I was wincing in those final 15 mins as it was just like last season waiting for the inevitable to happen. No and that's why JM should have gone at the end of last season tactically he is shite and he can watch all the dvd's he wants but it wont change.
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 8, 2017 22:32:19 GMT
The difference tonight every defender in there team can pass and move there goalkeeper completed more passes than our entire team, every goal kick he rolled it to any defender who had as much time as he liked to find a player of his choice this happened all night, yet when we have the ball we can't build from the back we hoof and hoof again, I don't expect us to batter teams but surly we can play touch and go like they can? Why didn't we stop them having it so easy building from the back? Is good ball going to be the way again this season? Positives we got away with a draw! I remember attending a CFU meeting last August when McCarthy presented his footballing philosophy. My memory tells me he talked about hitting balls forward and trying to win second balls in key areas. I'd have hoped after nearly 12 months he would have sussed this doesn't work. The only time that tactic will work is if you have a target man who can win those balls and create problems. We don't have such a player and we aren't able to push forward to win those second balls as when we do we get over run at the back, which happened repeatedly this evening.
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Post by embalmer on Aug 8, 2017 22:34:48 GMT
The difference tonight every defender in there team can pass and move there goalkeeper completed more passes than our entire team, every goal kick he rolled it to any defender who had as much time as he liked to find a player of his choice this happened all night, yet when we have the ball we can't build from the back we hoof and hoof again, I don't expect us to batter teams but surly we can play touch and go like they can? Why didn't we stop them having it so easy building from the back? Is good ball going to be the way again this season? Positives we got away with a draw! I remember attending a CFU meeting last August when McCarthy presented his footballing philosophy. My memory tells me he talked about hitting balls forward and trying to win second balls in key areas. I'd have hoped after nearly 12 months he would have sussed this doesn't work. The only time that tactic will work is if you have a target man who can win those balls and create problems. We don't have such a player and we aren't able to push forward to win those second balls as when we do we get over run at the back, which happened repeatedly this evening. I was just about to mention this - McCarthy repeated this very tactical mantra at the CFU meeting last month so I'm not sure why people are so surprised by the style of football that was on show tonight. My advice would be to get used to it, unfortunately!
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Post by agl on Aug 8, 2017 22:39:17 GMT
So, to summarise ...we were awful and quite promising. LRT had a good/ awful game at left back. We will be fine this season but could go down. The minutes applause was a good and bad idea. It's a good point but we should be beating promoted teams irrespective of budget. All I can be sure of is that Tarvin Blue will always see the worst in everything connected with the team and manager and that the guy who is in Germany needs help. I still think staying up this season will be a decent achievement and that will turn out to be an OK point. It's the games against Guiseley, Halifax, Solihull etc that will be crucial
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Post by sqzl on Aug 8, 2017 22:42:30 GMT
What a joke of a post. Do you know anything regards football? Fylde have over double our budget. Saturday is a tough game, like any other at this level. What's with the bold letters sqzl? Make you feel good? Just because you're happy with dross and I'm not doesn't make you anything special. P.S. I have an FA coaching badge and suspect you're just an arsehole. Not particularly and I miss the part where I said I was happy? It's a good point against a side that have a much larger budget, FACT. Every game is hard in this division, FACT. I suggest you take your FA badge, and go learn a bit about football.
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Post by Forever Blue on Aug 8, 2017 22:47:58 GMT
So, to summarise ...we were awful and quite promising. LRT had a good/ awful game at left back. We will be fine this season but could go down. The minutes applause was a good and bad idea. It's a good point but we should be beating promoted teams irrespective of budget. All I can be sure of is that Tarvin Blue will always see the worst in everything connected with the team and manager and that the guy who is in Germany needs help. I still think staying up this season will be a decent achievement and that will turn out to be an OK point. It's the games against Guiseley, Halifax, Solihull etc that will be crucial To summarise it we have better players but tactically little has changed and JM is still shite that's about it.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 8, 2017 22:54:57 GMT
I would say that a draw is a fair result. We played really well in the first half and played some wonderful football, but in the second half we sat back too deep and allowed Fylde to attack. Saying that though, their goal was clearly 2 yards off side. I was right by it and it was very poor officiating. I though that most of our team put in a good performance, including Akintunde, Astles, Rowe-Turner, Dawson to name a few. I would say a draw against AFC Fylde is a great start for us, and a benchmark for our next game against Halifax. We still need that belated home win, but we will get it very soon. Nethertheless, it was great to be back along with a very healthy crowd. Also, the supporters behind the goal in particular were excellent and put on a fantastic display. Well done, and hopefully the first of many 🔵⚪️👏.
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 8, 2017 22:55:02 GMT
Hope the atmosphere sounded good in the Harry Mac tonight... over the moon with the numbers in there after hours of work towards the Cestrians 1885 movement. Was the busiest I've seen it in a while.
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Post by Alan on Aug 8, 2017 22:56:32 GMT
I must have missed the bit where we lost tonight.
I see some have been chomping at the bit to get on here tonight to look at the negatives. Our whole preparation has been knocked by Saturday's postponement given it was the first game of the season; I see Solihull were beaten 3-1 tonight Leyton Orient, who themselves were beaten 2-0 on Saturday. Macca has gone back to what we know works at this level, which is 4-4-2, and our best centre back is Ryan Astles, guilty more than anybody of hoofing it. Our goal came from the link up of two midfielders and I thought our strikers looked the most pro-active on the pitch cross the 90 minutes. Are we that deluded to think that we will play beautiful free-flowing football from defence to midfield? Half the time, us in the stands are calling for somebody to boot the ball from defence. Fylde had a 50 goal striker in their side tonight and he ended up being subbed. We stopped the rot of defeats and we can build from that. It's game one of 46 and it's vital we avoided defeat against a side who are still riding on a crest of a wave from last season and themselves look very dangerous going forward. I just think a few of you need to take a deep breath and think before you type, because you genuinely make fools of yourselves.
I just had a feeling that there had been to much positivity this close season for some.
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