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Post by MPW on Aug 8, 2017 23:07:05 GMT
Can't fault the effort and we impressed at times during the first half, but there is no denying that the second half was alarmingly familiar to most home games this year. I don't think anyone would have been surprised if Fylde had scored a winner towards the end. I know I was almost expecting it!.
White and Akintunde were a real handful and never let their defence settle, but all 3 subs were pretty ineffective. Fylde looked decent at times and time will tell if the draw proves to be a good result.
Very early days and there are signs that we could have a decent team, but I hope Macca doesn't over coach them when I think we just need to let the players do their thing and keep it simple.
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Post by Rimmer on Aug 9, 2017 6:17:27 GMT
For all those that didn't think we played well, have a read of the match report from the Fylde website I still feel that we are much better than last year and we will do well - not bad for our first game against a decent side that has had 90 minutes under their belt AFC Fylde earned a solid point at Chester in their first away trip of the new National League season.
The Coasters opened the scoring moments before half-time through summer signing Jack Muldoon, however were pegged back seconds later when Lucas Dawson slide the ball home.
Both clubs had golden chances to take maximum points from the entertaining contest after the break, none more so than Sam Finley’s rasping volley that was clawed out of the top corner.
Manager Dave Challinor made two changes from the opening day 2-2 draw against Boreham Wood with Henry Jones and Saturday’s goal hero Jonny Smith coming into the starting line-up.
Fylde flew out of the blocks and almost opened the scoring in spectacular fashion inside the opening six minutes. A corner was cleared only as far as Finley 25 yards from goal and the midfield man let fly with a dipping volley that landed on the roof of the net.
The hosts were enjoying some success down their left and a delightful cross from Craig Mahon was nodded just over by the Harry White lurking on the six-yard line.
Chester frontman White was looking dangerous early on and almost bundled his way clean through on the edge of the area only to see his strike blocked at the last by Jordan Tunnicliffe.
The chances were flowing at either end and a pinpoint first-time ball into the box found Jones unmarked at the back post however he steered his glancing header wide.
White powered another header narrowly over Rhys Taylor’s crossbar as an entertaining start reached the half-hour mark.
The Blues were starting to dominate proceeding, with the visitors sitting deep, and went again close when James Akintunde nicked in front of Josh Langley to meet a low cross but flicked his effort wide of the far post.
White was becoming a real thorn in the side of the Fylde backline and Langley had Taylor to thank after the striker had out-paced the Fylde captain.
The Coasters broke away seconds later with the chance of the match so far. Muldoon flew down the left before picking out Smith in acres of space inside the area and whilst his low attempt to the far corner looked goalbound, it trickled agonisingly wide of the upright.
Fylde eventually broke Chester’s resilliance on the stroke of half-time and it was a first in Fylde colours for Muldoon. Finley was set free down the right and his ball into the near post was neatly slotted into the bottom corner by the former Lincoln man.
However, barely 60 seconds later and the hosts were level. Some neat play down the left saw the ball end up with Dawson and he stroked the ball low into the far corner from 12 yards.
Blues forward White picked up where he left off in the second-half and very nearly found the top corner with a sublime curling strike that whistled a foot wide.
Danny Rowe had his first sniff of goal ten minutes after the restart when Muldoon found him on the six-yard line but his first-time effort was blocked and cleared before Jones could follow up.
The host’s momentum was building with ball after ball into the Fylde penalty area but the Coasters were soaking up the pressure well.
The Coasters enjoyed a spell of pressure of their own as the clock wound down and Langley wasn’t far away after rising well to Zaine Francis-Angol’s left-wing cross.
Rowe was growing into the game and flashed one wide from 25 yards as the contest started to even out. Midfielder Lewis Montrose watched a fierce strike fly just over from the edge of the area with less than ten minutes remaining.
The Coasters would have won it late on had it not been for a stunning save from on loan goalkeeper Conor Mitchell. Finley snatched at the ball 18 yards from goal and hit sweetly stuck volley was acrobatically tipped around the far post by the young stopper.
Chester: Mitchell, Halls, Rowe-Turner, James, McCombe, Astles, Mahon (Chapell 80), Turnbull, White (Bell 72), Dawson, Akintunde (Hannah 65).
Subs not used: Lynch, Davies, Chapell.
AFC Fylde: Taylor, Bond, Langley, Tunnicliffe, Francis-Angol, Montrose, Finley, Jones, Muldoon, Smith, Rowe (Hardy 80).
Subs not used: Lynch, Grand, Ezewele, Blinkhorn.
Att: 2,223
Ref: Daniel Middleton.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 9, 2017 6:30:34 GMT
Hope the atmosphere sounded good in the Harry Mac tonight... over the moon with the numbers in there after hours of work towards the Cestrians 1885 movement. Was the busiest I've seen it in a while. If the manager doesn't move away from the tactics he has employed over the last nine months at home then it'll be a while before you see it like that again. Well played, though, it looked good.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 9, 2017 6:54:56 GMT
I must have missed the bit where we lost tonight. I see some have been chomping at the bit to get on here tonight to look at the negatives. Our whole preparation has been knocked by Saturday's postponement given it was the first game of the season; I see Solihull were beaten 3-1 tonight Leyton Orient, who themselves were beaten 2-0 on Saturday. Macca has gone back to what we know works at this level, which is 4-4-2, and our best centre back is Ryan Astles, guilty more than anybody of hoofing it. Our goal came from the link up of two midfielders and I thought our strikers looked the most pro-active on the pitch cross the 90 minutes. Are we that deluded to think that we will play beautiful free-flowing football from defence to midfield? Half the time, us in the stands are calling for somebody to boot the ball from defence. Fylde had a 50 goal striker in their side tonight and he ended up being subbed. We stopped the rot of defeats and we can build from that. It's game one of 46 and it's vital we avoided defeat against a side who are still riding on a crest of a wave from last season and themselves look very dangerous going forward. I just think a few of you need to take a deep breath and think before you type, because you genuinely make fools of yourselves. I just had a feeling that there had been to much positivity this close season for some. Ah, I knew the old "team prep rocked by Saturday's postponement" excuse would appear but in actual fact, according to the manager himself in an interview with the Chronicle yesterday... “There is also the fact that the players have had that little bit extra time to get themselves right and everybody is fit and has trained and after the weekend and we’re ready to get going now.” Ironically in the same interview he alludes to the dreadful second half of th season and doing things over the summer to rectify that yet he persisted in that second half with the same old rubbish tactics of sitting deep and inviting pressure. We were fortunate not to get beat in the end.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 9, 2017 7:15:05 GMT
I must have missed the bit where we lost tonight. I see some have been chomping at the bit to get on here tonight to look at the negatives. Our whole preparation has been knocked by Saturday's postponement given it was the first game of the season; I see Solihull were beaten 3-1 tonight Leyton Orient, who themselves were beaten 2-0 on Saturday. Macca has gone back to what we know works at this level, which is 4-4-2, and our best centre back is Ryan Astles, guilty more than anybody of hoofing it. Our goal came from the link up of two midfielders and I thought our strikers looked the most pro-active on the pitch cross the 90 minutes. Are we that deluded to think that we will play beautiful free-flowing football from defence to midfield? Half the time, us in the stands are calling for somebody to boot the ball from defence. Fylde had a 50 goal striker in their side tonight and he ended up being subbed. We stopped the rot of defeats and we can build from that. It's game one of 46 and it's vital we avoided defeat against a side who are still riding on a crest of a wave from last season and themselves look very dangerous going forward. I just think a few of you need to take a deep breath and think before you type, because you genuinely make fools of yourselves. I just had a feeling that there had been to much positivity this close season for some. Ah, I knew the old "team prep rocked by Saturday's postponement" excuse would appear but in actual fact, according to the manager himself in an interview with the Chronicle yesterday... “There is also the fact that the players have had that little bit extra time to get themselves right and everybody is fit and has trained and after the weekend and we’re ready to get going now.” Ironically in the same interview he alludes to the dreadful second half of th season and doing things over the summer to rectify that yet he persisted in that second half with the same old rubbish tactics of sitting deep and inviting pressure. We were fortunate not to get beat in the end. While I do agree we were fortunate to have not lost in, we should also have won it. It's a game that's about taking your chances and we scored a legitimate goal and theirs was 100% offside. I think despite the negativity, there are a few positives, we would have lost this game with last years side, showed a bit of steel last night and the combination of Akintunde and White looked dangerous. We will learn more about ourselves at the weekend I think, as opposed to the money teams.
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Post by Si on Aug 9, 2017 7:27:21 GMT
I must have missed the bit where we lost tonight. I see some have been chomping at the bit to get on here tonight to look at the negatives. Our whole preparation has been knocked by Saturday's postponement given it was the first game of the season; I see Solihull were beaten 3-1 tonight Leyton Orient, who themselves were beaten 2-0 on Saturday. Macca has gone back to what we know works at this level, which is 4-4-2, and our best centre back is Ryan Astles, guilty more than anybody of hoofing it. Our goal came from the link up of two midfielders and I thought our strikers looked the most pro-active on the pitch cross the 90 minutes. Are we that deluded to think that we will play beautiful free-flowing football from defence to midfield? Half the time, us in the stands are calling for somebody to boot the ball from defence. Fylde had a 50 goal striker in their side tonight and he ended up being subbed. We stopped the rot of defeats and we can build from that. It's game one of 46 and it's vital we avoided defeat against a side who are still riding on a crest of a wave from last season and themselves look very dangerous going forward. I just think a few of you need to take a deep breath and think before you type, because you genuinely make fools of yourselves. I just had a feeling that there had been to much positivity this close season for some. I think the majority of this thread is fine to be honest. I felt a bit down after last night as I felt it was alarmingly similar to the traits that were prominent last season. A point itself is not the end of the world, but we don't take the game to teams anymore at home and whilst the way we are set up will win us points on the road, it's obvious that we are tactically unbalanced at home.
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Post by trublu on Aug 9, 2017 7:38:55 GMT
Agreed Nath, particularly frustrating to see that little period of pressure right towards the end when Hannah had that effort from way out, Hannah rounded the keeper but had gone too far wide for the angle, the Chappell chance from pressuring the keeper, we looked very dangerous when we did get up the pitch after a good 10-15 minutes of sitting back and inviting them on to us.
I feel that when Hannah is fit enough to start, Akintunde's pace will make him very effective off the bench.
Rowe-Turner was tested at left back today and looked a lot better than expected after some of the things id read about him when signed. I felt his distribution was expansive as well and proved that we do have the ability to set up attacks from the back if we can just avoid the temptation to hoof it. He was very isolated at times, Mahon doesnt offer a lot coming back and it left 2 on 1 down the left too often, which is where their goal came from and the cross for the free header a few minutes earlier which was a real let off for the blues.
I think that Fylde are probably a decent side this season and a draw will probably look a point gained once the season settled down.
McCarthy needs to get this sitting back deep sorted out. We dont offer any threat and just invite pressure. We'll get beat playing lime that too often, and we can be a decent side going forward. Plenty of positives to take but a lot to improve on also.
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Post by bing on Aug 9, 2017 7:53:36 GMT
Hope the atmosphere sounded good in the Harry Mac tonight... over the moon with the numbers in there after hours of work towards the Cestrians 1885 movement. Was the busiest I've seen it in a while. It was excellent. Really enjoyed the match - very absorbing against a decent side - and it was enhanced by the atmosphere. Keep up the good work!
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Post by blue4life on Aug 9, 2017 8:29:01 GMT
Hope the atmosphere sounded good in the Harry Mac tonight... over the moon with the numbers in there after hours of work towards the Cestrians 1885 movement. Was the busiest I've seen it in a while. If the manager doesn't move away from the tactics he has employed over the last nine months at home then it'll be a while before you see it like that again. Well played, though, it looked good. What tactics were those then?
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 9, 2017 8:39:52 GMT
One thing to remember from last night was that this was a new team for us. The only consistent starter from last season in that team was Astles.
I know we've played friendlies, but it takes time for a team to gel and to get to know each others game.
Yes, some of last season's frailty and limitations started to appear as the game went on, but there were positives too.
The lack of wide options could become a real issue. Dawson playing there should help the midfield a lot though. We are expecting the wide players to drop in and defend, but also get forward to support the strikers. Mahon really struggled all game to close their right side down. With our full backs tucking in to cover the centre halves we will give space out wide, allowing crosses to come in.
This is compensated by having 4 strikers this season.
It will be interesting to see how Fylde do this season. I suspect they may change quite a bit over the course of the season, given the money they have available. They looked slick with the ball, but open without it. They may feel they need to tighten up, especially away from home. That may reduce their effectiveness with the ball.
Good game. Really enjoyed most of it. If only all games in this league were that open and entertaining. That would keep the crowds up.
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Post by Jack on Aug 9, 2017 8:48:42 GMT
Wasn't there last night but the end result is decent and it's good we're off the mark.
Interestingly, at the start of last season I noted how we weren't coming under as much intense pressure at the end of the games and I think a large part of it is Mahon. He brings the team 20-30 yards up the pitch with his pace and agility. Especially given we only now seem to play with 1 natural winger, his form is going to be vital and it sounds he was off his game yesterday.
We'll only improve and it's great to see that we seemingly just have better players on the pitch.
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Post by Ian H Block on Aug 9, 2017 8:52:36 GMT
Not sure why there is all this negativity on here as I thought we did alright last night against a very good Fylde team. Going forward we seem a lot more potent than last season and we've got more bite and ability in midfield. Yes, the last 15 minutes were a bit nail biting as we hung on for the draw but I think the players were a bit over-anxious to get something from the game. Last season we would have comfortably lost that game, so there is a clear improvement.
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Post by thetheremin on Aug 9, 2017 9:56:29 GMT
Not sure why there is all this negativity on here as I thought we did alright last night against a very good Fylde team. Going forward we seem a lot more potent than last season and we've got more bite and ability in midfield. Yes, the last 15 minutes were a bit nail biting as we hung on for the draw but I think the players were a bit over-anxious to get something from the game. Last season we would have comfortably lost that game, so there is a clear improvement. Negativity? Some of them are goats having a laugh. Some of them are never happy unless they're unhappy. Some of them don't understand football. Some of them demand footballing perfection, and why shouldn't they with our huge budget Seriously though, we've come off the back of a terrible run of results last season and McCarthy should be mindful that he needs to turn that around and has a lot of fans to win back over because of that shocking sequence at home. Couldn't get there last night but it sounds like a point was a fair result. Well done lads.
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 9, 2017 10:01:13 GMT
One thing I did notice last night was that there was nothing coming from the technical area. McCarthy and Shaw stood 5 feet apart with their hands in their pockets and occasionally spoke to each other. I would have liked to have seen more energy and encouragement coming from them.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 9, 2017 10:15:56 GMT
One thing I did notice last night was that there was nothing coming from the technical area. McCarthy and Shaw stood 5 feet apart with their hands in their pockets and occasionally spoke to each other. I would have liked to have seen more energy and encouragement coming from them. Serious? Shaw was going mad at the officials all game, exactly what we didn't get with Iwelumo.
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Post by Matt on Aug 9, 2017 10:23:23 GMT
One thing I did notice last night was that there was nothing coming from the technical area. McCarthy and Shaw stood 5 feet apart with their hands in their pockets and occasionally spoke to each other. I would have liked to have seen more energy and encouragement coming from them. Serious? Shaw was going mad at the officials all game, exactly what we didn't get with Iwelumo. What is Iwelumo's role now? I heard attacking coach but it's only night games?
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Post by bing on Aug 9, 2017 11:16:52 GMT
One thing I did notice last night was that there was nothing coming from the technical area. McCarthy and Shaw stood 5 feet apart with their hands in their pockets and occasionally spoke to each other. I would have liked to have seen more energy and encouragement coming from them. Serious? Shaw was going mad at the officials all game, exactly what we didn't get with Iwelumo. It was also noticable how vocal we were on the field - players shouting to each other, geeing each other up etc. It was also good to see subbed players being patted on the back and having their hands shook by the other players.
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Post by Si on Aug 9, 2017 11:28:48 GMT
Would agree that the work rate was top notch and we went carrying any passengers in that respect. I just want us to be more positive at home and take the game to teams. We did get in some good areas in the first half and played some nice stuff, but we have to be braver in that second half and ask more questions.
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Post by zooblue on Aug 9, 2017 12:17:49 GMT
I am unable to add much to the array of opinions on here after last night's performance but I thought it was very encouraging. All players looked comfortable with the possible exception of Craig Mahon who wasn't quite firing on four cylinders. His day will return. It was just good to see him on the pitch.
Fylde are an accomplished team. They will find the transition to this league a challenge but will not struggle this season and surely finish in the top half. For this reason it was a good point earned.
The squad looks to have better balance than last season and offers more possibilities. I liked the look of Harry White, and Akintunde. I wouldn't have paired them together but they looked good. I was impressed with Bell pre season and he will offer some good options as long as he remains. Hannah is always one of those players that will bag goals.
A word for the crowd. At 2,223 it was a good turnout. Fylde's support was abysmal and shows that their fan base is not established. I would expect 400 - 500 against Halifax so another post 2,000 crowd for August is healthy.
The new signings looked as accomplished as their CV. And as for Astles, does he ever have a bad game?
I think Maidenhead will struggle this year. It's a big step up to National Conference. There is no indication that Solihull will be strong and I can think of other 5 teams already that are likely to finish some way behind Chester this season.
The big unknown are of course injuries and suspensions that can make a mockery of any predictions. Add a good run into the mix and a fortuitous loan signing and everything can change.
ZB
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Post by football12 on Aug 9, 2017 12:33:18 GMT
I personally think Astles was MOM He was class
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Post by Dodge on Aug 9, 2017 13:02:22 GMT
For all those that didn't think we played well, have a read of the match report from the Fylde website I still feel that we are much better than last year and we will do well - not bad for our first game against a decent side that has had 90 minutes under their belt AFC Fylde earned a solid point at Chester in their first away trip of the new National League season. The Coasters opened the scoring moments before half-time through summer signing Jack Muldoon, however were pegged back seconds later when Lucas Dawson slide the ball home. Both clubs had golden chances to take maximum points from the entertaining contest after the break, none more so than Sam Finley’s rasping volley that was clawed out of the top corner. Manager Dave Challinor made two changes from the opening day 2-2 draw against Boreham Wood with Henry Jones and Saturday’s goal hero Jonny Smith coming into the starting line-up. Fylde flew out of the blocks and almost opened the scoring in spectacular fashion inside the opening six minutes. A corner was cleared only as far as Finley 25 yards from goal and the midfield man let fly with a dipping volley that landed on the roof of the net. The hosts were enjoying some success down their left and a delightful cross from Craig Mahon was nodded just over by the Harry White lurking on the six-yard line. Chester frontman White was looking dangerous early on and almost bundled his way clean through on the edge of the area only to see his strike blocked at the last by Jordan Tunnicliffe. The chances were flowing at either end and a pinpoint first-time ball into the box found Jones unmarked at the back post however he steered his glancing header wide. White powered another header narrowly over Rhys Taylor’s crossbar as an entertaining start reached the half-hour mark. The Blues were starting to dominate proceeding, with the visitors sitting deep, and went again close when James Akintunde nicked in front of Josh Langley to meet a low cross but flicked his effort wide of the far post.White was becoming a real thorn in the side of the Fylde backline and Langley had Taylor to thank after the striker had out-paced the Fylde captain. The Coasters broke away seconds later with the chance of the match so far. Muldoon flew down the left before picking out Smith in acres of space inside the area and whilst his low attempt to the far corner looked goalbound, it trickled agonisingly wide of the upright. Fylde eventually broke Chester’s resilliance on the stroke of half-time and it was a first in Fylde colours for Muldoon. Finley was set free down the right and his ball into the near post was neatly slotted into the bottom corner by the former Lincoln man. However, barely 60 seconds later and the hosts were level. Some neat play down the left saw the ball end up with Dawson and he stroked the ball low into the far corner from 12 yards. Blues forward White picked up where he left off in the second-half and very nearly found the top corner with a sublime curling strike that whistled a foot wide. Danny Rowe had his first sniff of goal ten minutes after the restart when Muldoon found him on the six-yard line but his first-time effort was blocked and cleared before Jones could follow up. The host’s momentum was building with ball after ball into the Fylde penalty area but the Coasters were soaking up the pressure well.
The Coasters enjoyed a spell of pressure of their own as the clock wound down and Langley wasn’t far away after rising well to Zaine Francis-Angol’s left-wing cross.Rowe was growing into the game and flashed one wide from 25 yards as the contest started to even out. Midfielder Lewis Montrose watched a fierce strike fly just over from the edge of the area with less than ten minutes remaining. The Coasters would have won it late on had it not been for a stunning save from on loan goalkeeper Conor Mitchell. Finley snatched at the ball 18 yards from goal and hit sweetly stuck volley was acrobatically tipped around the far post by the young stopper. Chester: Mitchell, Halls, Rowe-Turner, James, McCombe, Astles, Mahon (Chapell 80), Turnbull, White (Bell 72), Dawson, Akintunde (Hannah 65). Subs not used: Lynch, Davies, Chapell. AFC Fylde: Taylor, Bond, Langley, Tunnicliffe, Francis-Angol, Montrose, Finley, Jones, Muldoon, Smith, Rowe (Hardy 80). Subs not used: Lynch, Grand, Ezewele, Blinkhorn. Att: 2,223 Ref: Daniel Middleton. I just can't subscribe to the argument being made that McCarthy tactically decided to sit back and invite pressure after 70 minutes. Over 90 minutes two well matched teams will dominate at different points; we were dominant for much of the first half and the start of the second half (as the Fylde report shows) and then Fylde managed to get on top for the last 20 minutes. That could have been fitness from missing Saturday's game and/or the flaws of pre-season, or it could be confidence given our poor home record and the fact that the team may not have gelled yet. I recall somebody who went to watch Fylde on Saturday saying they were nervous to start and then grew into the game, clearly that could have been a factor. I'm really not a fan of how deep we played at home last season but I genuinely don't think that was the case last night. It's also worth noting that the sitting deep tactic was deployed successfully during our unbeaten record at the start of last season, which included us beating Dover 5-0 with about 30% of the possession...
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Post by iandychesterfc on Aug 9, 2017 13:03:25 GMT
I must have missed the bit where we lost tonight. I see some have been chomping at the bit to get on here tonight to look at the negatives. Our whole preparation has been knocked by Saturday's postponement given it was the first game of the season; I see Solihull were beaten 3-1 tonight Leyton Orient, who themselves were beaten 2-0 on Saturday. Macca has gone back to what we know works at this level, which is 4-4-2, and our best centre back is Ryan Astles, guilty more than anybody of hoofing it. Our goal came from the link up of two midfielders and I thought our strikers looked the most pro-active on the pitch cross the 90 minutes. Are we that deluded to think that we will play beautiful free-flowing football from defence to midfield? Half the time, us in the stands are calling for somebody to boot the ball from defence. Fylde had a 50 goal striker in their side tonight and he ended up being subbed. We stopped the rot of defeats and we can build from that. It's game one of 46 and it's vital we avoided defeat against a side who are still riding on a crest of a wave from last season and themselves look very dangerous going forward. I just think a few of you need to take a deep breath and think before you type, because you genuinely make fools of yourselves. I just had a feeling that there had been to much positivity this close season for some. I think the majority of this thread is fine to be honest. I felt a bit down after last night as I felt it was alarmingly similar to the traits that were prominent last season. A point itself is not the end of the world, but we don't take the game to teams anymore at home and whilst the way we are set up will win us points on the road, it's obvious that we are tactically unbalanced at home. I read Alan's comments on twitter bemoaning the super negative DCII and i have to say i'm really unimpressed by that. Take out every comment made by the eternal WUM that is Mancot (Sychdyn) Blue everything said is fair reflection of what everyone was saying post match: i.e a great first half but we wilted away. Now that varies between for the whole second half to the last 10-20 mins but i know i sat there nervously waiting for the final whistle because WE WERE BEING DOMINATED. Simple as that really. We did have chances through Hannah and how Chappell managed to tackle himself when pretty much clean through following a defensive mistake i don't know, but in general we were hanging on a bit. The only thing I would like to rein in is the criticism of McCarthy in that. I heard him and Shaw from the other end of the ground screaming at the lads to get out, dont go so deep etc. However, (and i'll accept this may be a more viable line of criticism) we looked goosed - and what do goosed players do? they sit off and hit long. Andy Halls your prime example, was so knackered chasing after the non-league theo walcott (raw pace no skill) that he was the worst culprit and drew the most criticism from his fellow players and the management staff. We're too quick to criticise the manager at times - i understand that people won't like the front to back style but in pre-season this is what they worked on with Iwelumo and it's never been hidden. Someone said Harry White reminds them of Jon Walters, surely you remember the number of lost causes he had to chase under Wright? It's a tactic, people need to (as someone has already stated) make peace with it because its what you're getting. Fylde could have lost last night playing around the back if Chapple wasn't afraid of his own shadow, McCarthy wants to play football in the opponents half. This is nothing new, we've seen it from the Premiership down to Sunday League. The difference this season is having battlers like White and Aki (with hannah) and a midfield that after a few games I expect will be right on those second balls. Play all the friendlies and train as early as you want, nothing counts more that proper matches for sharpness. As I said, i'm p***ed off people are slagging this forum when the chat has been nothing than reflective on what was a hard-fought point which we could have lost because those on the pitch, not off it, we're looked ragged in the last 15. We were far better in the first half, and i expect to see 80-90 minute performances of that nature 6 games in.
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 9, 2017 13:10:50 GMT
I am unable to add much to the array of opinions on here after last night's performance but I thought it was very encouraging. All players looked comfortable with the possible exception of Craig Mahon who wasn't quite firing on four cylinders. His day will return. It was just good to see him on the pitch.
Fylde are an accomplished team. They will find the transition to this league a challenge but will not struggle this season and surely finish in the top half. For this reason it was a good point earned.
The squad looks to have better balance than last season and offers more possibilities. I liked the look of Harry White, and Akintunde. I wouldn't have paired them together but they looked good. I was impressed with Bell pre season and he will offer some good options as long as he remains. Hannah is always one of those players that will bag goals.
A word for the crowd. At 2,223 it was a good turnout. Fylde's support was abysmal and shows that their fan base is not established. I would expect 400 - 500 against Halifax so another post 2,000 crowd for August is healthy.
The new signings looked as accomplished as their CV. And as for Astles, does he ever have a bad game?
I think Maidenhead will struggle this year. It's a big step up to National Conference. There is no indication that Solihull will be strong and I can think of other 5 teams already that are likely to finish some way behind Chester this season.
The big unknown are of course injuries and suspensions that can make a mockery of any predictions. Add a good run into the mix and a fortuitous loan signing and everything can change.
ZB
He slipped in the 3-0 at Wrexham 2 seasons ago, but apart from that he rarely puts a foot wrong. I'd implore the board to extend his contract asap, because he's gold dust. Also did he look trimmer last night?
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Post by billyw on Aug 9, 2017 15:41:46 GMT
One thing I did notice last night was that there was nothing coming from the technical area. McCarthy and Shaw stood 5 feet apart with their hands in their pockets and occasionally spoke to each other. I would have liked to have seen more energy and encouragement coming from them. Serious? Shaw was going mad at the officials all game, exactly what we didn't get with Iwelumo. Surely he should be vocal with the players rather than the officials.
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Post by rcb on Aug 9, 2017 16:12:58 GMT
Interesting thread really. We played well, but we didn't play well. We deserved to win and we deserved to lose. We even had Chappell coming on as a sub but he was also an unused sub. Not playing last Saturday was a positive according to McCarthy but a negative according to his supporters on here. And of course after only one game the famous "budget" word is back again. The only thing missing are the statititions who claim to know all about the value of stats. They could now legitimately prove that with three games in total for Fylde and Chester and three points between them that they are both going to end up on 46 points each and will therefore be relegated. I expressed disappointment earlier therefore the knowledgeable sqzl claims I must know nothing about football. Time will tell no doubt, but surely anyone who is happy to accept a point v Halifax on Saturday has a strange attitude.
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Post by bing on Aug 9, 2017 16:14:03 GMT
For all those that didn't think we played well, have a read of the match report from the Fylde website I still feel that we are much better than last year and we will do well - not bad for our first game against a decent side that has had 90 minutes under their belt AFC Fylde earned a solid point at Chester in their first away trip of the new National League season. The Coasters opened the scoring moments before half-time through summer signing Jack Muldoon, however were pegged back seconds later when Lucas Dawson slide the ball home. Both clubs had golden chances to take maximum points from the entertaining contest after the break, none more so than Sam Finley’s rasping volley that was clawed out of the top corner. Manager Dave Challinor made two changes from the opening day 2-2 draw against Boreham Wood with Henry Jones and Saturday’s goal hero Jonny Smith coming into the starting line-up. Fylde flew out of the blocks and almost opened the scoring in spectacular fashion inside the opening six minutes. A corner was cleared only as far as Finley 25 yards from goal and the midfield man let fly with a dipping volley that landed on the roof of the net. The hosts were enjoying some success down their left and a delightful cross from Craig Mahon was nodded just over by the Harry White lurking on the six-yard line. Chester frontman White was looking dangerous early on and almost bundled his way clean through on the edge of the area only to see his strike blocked at the last by Jordan Tunnicliffe. The chances were flowing at either end and a pinpoint first-time ball into the box found Jones unmarked at the back post however he steered his glancing header wide. White powered another header narrowly over Rhys Taylor’s crossbar as an entertaining start reached the half-hour mark. The Blues were starting to dominate proceeding, with the visitors sitting deep, and went again close when James Akintunde nicked in front of Josh Langley to meet a low cross but flicked his effort wide of the far post.White was becoming a real thorn in the side of the Fylde backline and Langley had Taylor to thank after the striker had out-paced the Fylde captain. The Coasters broke away seconds later with the chance of the match so far. Muldoon flew down the left before picking out Smith in acres of space inside the area and whilst his low attempt to the far corner looked goalbound, it trickled agonisingly wide of the upright. Fylde eventually broke Chester’s resilliance on the stroke of half-time and it was a first in Fylde colours for Muldoon. Finley was set free down the right and his ball into the near post was neatly slotted into the bottom corner by the former Lincoln man. However, barely 60 seconds later and the hosts were level. Some neat play down the left saw the ball end up with Dawson and he stroked the ball low into the far corner from 12 yards. Blues forward White picked up where he left off in the second-half and very nearly found the top corner with a sublime curling strike that whistled a foot wide. Danny Rowe had his first sniff of goal ten minutes after the restart when Muldoon found him on the six-yard line but his first-time effort was blocked and cleared before Jones could follow up. The host’s momentum was building with ball after ball into the Fylde penalty area but the Coasters were soaking up the pressure well.
The Coasters enjoyed a spell of pressure of their own as the clock wound down and Langley wasn’t far away after rising well to Zaine Francis-Angol’s left-wing cross.Rowe was growing into the game and flashed one wide from 25 yards as the contest started to even out. Midfielder Lewis Montrose watched a fierce strike fly just over from the edge of the area with less than ten minutes remaining. The Coasters would have won it late on had it not been for a stunning save from on loan goalkeeper Conor Mitchell. Finley snatched at the ball 18 yards from goal and hit sweetly stuck volley was acrobatically tipped around the far post by the young stopper. Chester: Mitchell, Halls, Rowe-Turner, James, McCombe, Astles, Mahon (Chapell 80), Turnbull, White (Bell 72), Dawson, Akintunde (Hannah 65). Subs not used: Lynch, Davies, Chapell. AFC Fylde: Taylor, Bond, Langley, Tunnicliffe, Francis-Angol, Montrose, Finley, Jones, Muldoon, Smith, Rowe (Hardy 80). Subs not used: Lynch, Grand, Ezewele, Blinkhorn. Att: 2,223 Ref: Daniel Middleton. I just can't subscribe to the argument being made that McCarthy tactically decided to sit back and invite pressure after 70 minutes. Over 90 minutes two well matched teams will dominate at different points; we were dominant for much of the first half and the start of the second half (as the Fylde report shows) and then Fylde managed to get on top for the last 20 minutes. That could have been fitness from missing Saturday's game and/or the flaws of pre-season, or it could be confidence given our poor home record and the fact that the team may not have gelled yet. I recall somebody who went to watch Fylde on Saturday saying they were nervous to start and then grew into the game, clearly that could have been a factor. I'm really not a fan of how deep we played at home last season but I genuinely don't think that was the case last night. It's also worth noting that the sitting deep tactic was deployed successfully during our unbeaten record at the start of last season, which included us beating Dover 5-0 with about 30% of the possession... Fylde probably had more pace than any other side I've seen since our return to the Conference. OK, sometimes their final ball let them down, but they had plenty of pace. In the first half, even though we were on the front foot, they looked dangerous on the break. In the second half, although it felt like they were the dominant side, they didn't create as much apart from range. I think they'll be dangerous away from home this season and might find it harder to break sides down at home. I think as our legs tired we sat back and let them come at us. I know it's frustrating as I want to see us go hell for leather for the win at home, but I think circumstances just meant that McCarthy wanted to batten down the hatches and minimise the space in behind. I know that a lot on this forum bemoan his tactical nous, but in my opinion, it probably earned us a point last night.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 9, 2017 16:23:40 GMT
I think the majority of this thread is fine to be honest. I felt a bit down after last night as I felt it was alarmingly similar to the traits that were prominent last season. A point itself is not the end of the world, but we don't take the game to teams anymore at home and whilst the way we are set up will win us points on the road, it's obvious that we are tactically unbalanced at home. I read Alan's comments on twitter bemoaning the super negative DCII and i have to say i'm really unimpressed by that. Take out every comment made by the eternal WUM that is Mancot (Sychdyn) Blue everything said is fair reflection of what everyone was saying post match: i.e a great first half but we wilted away. Now that varies between for the whole second half to the last 10-20 mins but i know i sat there nervously waiting for the final whistle because WE WERE BEING DOMINATED. Simple as that really. We did have chances through Hannah and how Chappell managed to tackle himself when pretty much clean through following a defensive mistake i don't know, but in general we were hanging on a bit. The only thing I would like to rein in is the criticism of McCarthy in that. I heard him and Shaw from the other end of the ground screaming at the lads to get out, dont go so deep etc. However, (and i'll accept this may be a more viable line of criticism) we looked goosed - and what do goosed players do? they sit off and hit long. Andy Halls your prime example, was so knackered chasing after the non-league theo walcott (raw pace no skill) that he was the worst culprit and drew the most criticism from his fellow players and the management staff. We're too quick to criticise the manager at times - i understand that people won't like the front to back style but in pre-season this is what they worked on with Iwelumo and it's never been hidden. Someone said Harry White reminds them of Jon Walters, surely you remember the number of lost causes he had to chase under Wright? It's a tactic, people need to (as someone has already stated) make peace with it because its what you're getting. Fylde could have lost last night playing around the back if Chapple wasn't afraid of his own shadow, McCarthy wants to play football in the opponents half. This is nothing new, we've seen it from the Premiership down to Sunday League. The difference this season is having battlers like White and Aki (with hannah) and a midfield that after a few games I expect will be right on those second balls. Play all the friendlies and train as early as you want, nothing counts more that proper matches for sharpness. As I said, i'm p***ed off people are slagging this forum when the chat has been nothing than reflective on what was a hard-fought point which we could have lost because those on the pitch, not off it, we're looked ragged in the last 15. We were far better in the first half, and i expect to see 80-90 minute performances of that nature 6 games in. How you can say you're disappointed by Alan (an ex-Chairman of our fan-owned club no less) slating supporters' opinions in one breath then in the next breath accuse someone of WUMming because they have a different opinion to you (and an opinion shared by others in this thread) absolutely beggars belief. Yes, perhaps we were knackered last night being the first proper "match practice" we've had but you can't blame some for thinking the worst was back from last season after seeing most of that second half.
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Post by chesterken on Aug 9, 2017 17:40:24 GMT
We have to remember that as good as Fylde looked tonight they struggled themselves in their first game with a unconvincing draw against Boringwood, it just takes a little time to get up to speed as long as we improve we will have no problems this season.
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Post by richard on Aug 9, 2017 18:24:04 GMT
Interesting thread really. We played well, but we didn't play well. We deserved to win and we deserved to lose. We even had Chappell coming on as a sub but he was also an unused sub. Not playing last Saturday was a positive according to McCarthy but a negative according to his supporters on here. And of course after only one game the famous "budget" word is back again. The only thing missing are the statititions who claim to know all about the value of stats. They could now legitimately prove that with three games in total for Fylde and Chester and three points between them that they are both going to end up on 46 points each and will therefore be relegated. I expressed disappointment earlier therefore the knowledgeable sqzl claims I must know nothing about football. Time will tell no doubt, but surely anyone who is happy to accept a point v Halifax on Saturday has a strange attitude. It's all about opinions eh? Always welcome are they not?
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Post by devablue on Aug 9, 2017 18:28:08 GMT
A few people moaning about McCarthy's tactics saying the defence are sitting too deep. But do you really think we can play a high line with Astles and McCombe? We probably have the slowest defence in the league right there, at-least the slowest acceleration. It will be a feature of our season for sure.
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