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Post by Si on Aug 19, 2017 18:02:39 GMT
Biggest budget since the club reformed this season, yet we are playing the cuckold at home. The shockingly low home attendance will certainly have the board shaken. That's the important thing, they cannot ignore attendances like today at this stage of the season and it shows the magnitude of the discontent at the football that is being served up. It's stale and has been for some time. A fresh man with fresh ideas is needed, and someone who can galvanise the fans who have had the piss taken out of them in just about every press interview he's done in recent months. Enough is enough. |
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Post by paulie on Aug 19, 2017 18:03:48 GMT
Biggest budget since the club reformed this season, yet we are playing the cuckold at home. The shockingly low home attendance will certainly have the board shaken. I don't think it will. He must have some sort of hold over them or he has convinced them he is doing a good job. The club had the perfect opportunity in the summer to get rid of him but never. It would look bad sacking the man thus early into a season, but it has to happen. |
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Post by rjshbdhmtrm on Aug 19, 2017 18:05:18 GMT
J Mc the only manager who believes that tactics are a mint sweet in a plastic box.
Totally out of his depth at Conference level and has got to go, regardless as to how much financially it sets the club back.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 19, 2017 18:06:19 GMT
That first half was utter shambles, just a worse version of all of our home games since January. It was just hoof, hoof, hoof. What made me get frustrated the most was that we had ELEVEN men back for corners. What is the sense in that? For a corner you should have about 2-3 players near the halfway line incase we started a counter attack. But with every man back the possession will just go back to the opposition. The second half was much better. We actually played the ball along the floor and looked good going forward. That second half performance goes to show that we are capable against anyone, but the players don't receive the correct tactics/coaching properly. In a sense I thought we were unlucky in the end as we did improve. It's the first half performance which was more disappointing, along with a very poor attendance.
Onto Aldershot now, which will be a similar game than today. I really want to go, however I might be having a mouth operation on Friday which would prevent me from going. I am praying that my potential operation gets cancelled so I can head down to Hampshire to back the blues.
COYB!
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Post by Si on Aug 19, 2017 18:08:28 GMT
That first half was utter shambles, just a worse version of all of our home games since January. It was just hoof, hoof, hoof. What made me get frustrated the most was that we had ELEVEN men back for corners. What is the sense in that? For a corner you should have about 2-3 players near the halfway line incase we started a counter attack. But with every man back the possession will just go back to the opposition. The second half was much better. We actually played the ball along the floor and looked good going forward. That second half performance goes to show that we are capable against anyone, but the players don't receive the correct tactics/coaching properly. In a sense I thought we were unlucky in the end as we did improve. It's the first half performance which was more disappointing, along with a very poor attendance. Onto Aldershot now, which will be a similar game than today. I really want to go, however I might be having a mouth operation on Friday which would prevent me from going. I am praying that my potential operation gets cancelled so I can head down to Hampshire to back the blues. COYB! Rio, your mouth op sounds like the more enjoyable option! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 18:11:15 GMT
As much as I'd love to see us play attacking football going to be tough with only 1 striker, 2 full backs with no legs and very little creativity in midfield (can't rely on Mahon every game).
Going for 'quality' over quantity is biting us in the arse already, still August!
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 19, 2017 18:11:50 GMT
That first half was utter shambles, just a worse version of all of our home games since January. It was just hoof, hoof, hoof. What made me get frustrated the most was that we had ELEVEN men back for corners. What is the sense in that? For a corner you should have about 2-3 players near the halfway line incase we started a counter attack. But with every man back the possession will just go back to the opposition. The second half was much better. We actually played the ball along the floor and looked good going forward. That second half performance goes to show that we are capable against anyone, but the players don't receive the correct tactics/coaching properly. In a sense I thought we were unlucky in the end as we did improve. It's the first half performance which was more disappointing, along with a very poor attendance. Onto Aldershot now, which will be a similar game than today. I really want to go, however I might be having a mouth operation on Friday which would prevent me from going. I am praying that my potential operation gets cancelled so I can head down to Hampshire to back the blues. COYB! Rio, your mouth op sounds like the more enjoyable option! At least the surgeons wouldn't 'hoof' my teeth out 😊. |
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Post by Al on Aug 19, 2017 18:24:24 GMT
That first half is down there with some of those Terry Smith years.
The 1-7 mauling by Brighton, the 1-5 defeat to Orient.. it was THAT bad. Everything I said we didn't and don't do in the hartlepool match thread we continued not to do today in that first half. No width, no support no options when we were on the ball trying to go forward. As poor a game as LRT and Halls had they continually had NO options upfront of them other than a hoof forward. Dawson's movement or rather lack of in the second half was shocking. 3 times if he'd gone to Halls looking for a pass a quick 1-2 would have seen Halls in. Once he's there Halls has a wicked right foot to whip balls in. We need to work him into those positions more.
Now. That first half was abysmal, atrocious and I'd go as far to say disgusting. Losing 1-0 at home and EVERY man back defending it. I had a go at McCarthy for it, as did many beside me. For him to stand there complaining about us voicing our displeasure takes the piss. We have all played the game for years and watched it for years. You leave one or two lads up to give you a platform to build a counter attack. Everytime we conceded a corner Sutton kept 4 or 5 of their lads back cause they knew if we clear the corner it's going start back to them and the ball will be lumped right back down our throats.
Yes, McCarthy has made mistakes, and we had enough of them since last Christmas. What I cannot abide by is that he NEVER LEARNS. He can't or seemingly won't change, despite our poor run at home. We continue with the negative hoofball.
If he cant change the way we play or learn from his mistakes then he needs to go and allow us to bring in someone else. In this business you adapt your style and your philosophies to suit the players at your disposal. Find a system that works for them and then stick to it.
There is a football team in this squad, I have no doubt about it. But McCarthy is breaking them and their confidence.
Get rid of McCarthy and bring in Jim Harvey or even Graham Barrow. Christ i'd take Graham back in a heartbeat over this cuckold prick
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Post by Lobster on Aug 19, 2017 18:42:52 GMT
The disallowed Sutton goal was a strange one. I don't think I've ever seen so much time pass between the ball going in the net and it being ruled out, so I can understand why some sources reported that Sutton had gone 3-1 up. The ball was back in the centre circle and the teams we're mostly ready to kick off again, but then I saw Astles and a few other blue shirts in discussion with the linesman and it seems they changed their mind. Not even sure what the problem with the goal was, but to be fair it shouldn't have been a free kick in the first place so maybe these things even themselves out.
One of many talking points in what turned out to be a weird and surprisingly exciting game. Four cracking goals and a great comeback after a truly terrible first half, but ended with the all too familiar feeling of losing to a soft goal at the end of the game, and as others have said, it's happened too many times to be bad luck.
First half was awful, absolutely awful. To be fair the first Sutton goal was a terrific strike, but it was one of many chances they created because we weren't picking up men on the edge of the box. It's like we're just trying to create a human shield in our own six yard box. It reminds me of when you watch England in the qualifiers against teams like San Marino and Andorra, where all they're trying to do is keep the score down.
Everything seemed to come down their right. I can't quite make my mind up about Rowe-Turner - he looks awful one minute and brilliant the next. Their second goal, is it just me who thought there was a possibility it went in through a hole in the side netting? It looked improbable that he got it in from that angle.
Mahon (who otherwise had a shocking first half) gave the scoreline a flattering look at half time with a fantastic strike, and after the strange disallowed goal, we actually started to play football and got back on level terms with another fine long range strike.
We really should have gone on to win it from there, but we seemed to lose momentum. It's like this team is always either losing or desperately trying not to lose. By the last few minutes, we were camped in our own half and this is where, sadly, you have to point the finger at the manager. No team in this division should be seeing a point at home to Sutton as worth defending for their lives for. You could see, feel and smell that Sutton winner coming.
I wouldn't have been so bothered about losing that game if we'd been caught on the break while pushing for a winner, but we lost it because we invited pressure on ourselves under the belief that a single point at home to Sutton United in August is not worth the risk of losing, and we still managed to lose it. That's sad, and it's an attitude that will get us relegated.
I would bring Lynch back in for Mitchell, who doesn't fill me with confidence, and I've seen enough of Chapell who was mostly to blame for the third goal by running the ball into nowhere and losing it as he always does. Overall though, I don't think this is a bad team but it's like they're all playing with a ball and chain around their ankles. Maybe they'd play better if they just ignored the manager and did their own thing? It felt like that was the case in the second half.
I think with McCarthy, the only question is whether we sack him now and deal with the bad PR of sacking a manager "after four games", or do the gentlemanly and courteous thing and give him 8-10 games, but deep down, I think we all know it's not going to change, is it? There's no manager on the planet whose job hasn't been under threat at some point, but I don't think I've ever been so sure that a Chester manager isn't going to turn things round as I am with McCarthy.
Not sure what to make of Sutton. I thought they looked very decent first half, but perhaps that was mainly because we were making them look good as they seemed very average in the second. They looked confident and 'streetwise' more than anything, which is maybe a polite way of saying dirty and whiny, but they deserved the three points over the 90 minutes. Don't think they'll be up there at the end of the season though.
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Post by Jack on Aug 19, 2017 18:45:38 GMT
Starting at the end, I agree that nobody can claim that was bad luck. It was clearly coming for the 5 minutes beforehand, because of our continual stepping back to our 6 yard box. We were SO deep, we always are, and it cost us AGAIN. How can a professional football manager not see the pattern of events unfold before his eyes? It just says it all, that a 2-2 we decided to shut up shop. We had Sutton, a surprisingly bang average side, on the ropes and let them off with it.
That first half was so poor. It was my first game of the season today and it was even worse than the last 3 months of last season. I've seen teams that play narrow before but our system today had to be seen to be believed. It was truly obscene, you could have thrown a blanket over all of our players. When Halls and LRT have the ball, I actually felt sorry for them. Put yourself in their shoes, you look up and you either pass it into the hugely congested centre or lump it up the line to absolutely nobody. This is directly down to inept tactics. It's also painfully dull to watch, with absolutely no scope for creativity. To see a player like Mahon playing in centre midfield is such a shame, he needs space to operate and he's devastating when he gets it.
The crowd absolutely turned and rightfully so. McCarthy can answer back all he likes, but he's got some nerve to do so. The main problem with him is that he feels genuinely above question and takes criticism incredibly personally. We see it every week with Neil Turner and we saw it todayHe's deluded and feels there is an agenda against him.
Second half was better, but still so narrow. The players did their best and McCarthy will attempt to dine of it for weeks. In reality, our tactics cost us the points again.
We clearly have good footballers this year, they are being failed by the manager. I hope we've got somebody at the club brave enough to pull the trigger. 1600 today tells its own story.
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Post by weststandblue on Aug 19, 2017 18:56:13 GMT
Starting at the end, I agree that nobody can claim that was bad luck. It was clearly coming for the 5 minutes beforehand, because of our continual stepping back to our 6 yard box. We were SO deep, we always are, and it cost us AGAIN. How can a professional football manager not see the pattern of events unfold before his eyes? It just says it all, that a 2-2 we decided to shut up shop. We had Sutton, a surprisingly bang average side, on the ropes and let them off with it. That first half was so poor. It was my first game of the season today and it was even worse than the last 3 months of last season. I've seen teams that play narrow before but our system today had to be seen to be believed. It was truly obscene, you could have thrown a blanket over all of our players. When Halls and LRT have the ball, I actually felt sorry for them. Put yourself in their shoes, you look up and you either pass it into the hugely congested centre or lump it up the line to absolutely nobody. This is directly down to inept tactics. It's also painfully dull to watch, with absolutely no scope for creativity. To see a player like Mahon playing in centre midfield is such a shame, he needs space to operate and he's devastating when he gets it. The crowd absolutely turned and rightfully so. McCarthy can answer back all he likes, but he's got some nerve to do so. The main problem with him is that he feels genuinely above question and takes criticism incredibly personally. We see it every week with Neil Turner and we saw it todayHe's deluded and feels there is an agenda against him. Second half was better, but still so narrow. The players did their best and McCarthy will attempt to dine of it for weeks. In reality, our tactics cost us the points again. We clearly have good footballers this year, they are being failed by the manager. I hope we've got somebody at the club brave enough to pull the trigger. 1600 today tells its own story. Either the media or neil Turner are told no questions about the form. Only condolence questions. Never do they mention no win in 18 home matches. Nearly a season of home matches without a win. Of that's not worthy of the sack I don't know what is |
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Post by billyw on Aug 19, 2017 19:09:54 GMT
The Board has to make a decision - do we keep McCarthy and accept what appears to be the inevitability of relegation or grasp the nettle now and get someone in who can hopefully bring out the best of the players undoubted abilities.
For those who say we are only 4 games into the season - take the blinkers off and judge McCarthy over the last 9 months or to be more precise, since the Sharps effect wore off. I'm afraid McCarthy is as inept as Terry Smith as a manager
Sacking McCarthy will cost the club money KEEPING HIM WILL COST A LOT MORE.
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Post by marner93 on Aug 19, 2017 19:45:35 GMT
The disallowed Sutton goal was a strange one. I don't think I've ever seen so much time pass between the ball going in the net and it being ruled out, so I can understand why some sources reported that Sutton had gone 3-1 up. The ball was back in the centre circle and the teams we're mostly ready to kick off again, but then I saw Astles and a few other blue shirts in discussion with the linesman and it seems they changed their mind. Not even sure what the problem with the goal was, but to be fair it shouldn't have been a free kick in the first place so maybe these things even themselves out.One of many talking points in what turned out to be a weird and surprisingly exciting game. Four cracking goals and a great comeback after a truly terrible first half, but ended with the all too familiar feeling of losing to a soft goal at the end of the game, and as others have said, it's happened too many times to be bad luck. First half was awful, absolutely awful. To be fair the first Sutton goal was a terrific strike, but it was one of many chances they created because we weren't picking up men on the edge of the box. It's like we're just trying to create a human shield in our own six yard box. It reminds me of when you watch England in the qualifiers against teams like San Marino and Andorra, where all they're trying to do is keep the score down. Everything seemed to come down their right. I can't quite make my mind up about Rowe-Turner - he looks awful one minute and brilliant the next. Their second goal, is it just me who thought there was a possibility it went in through a hole in the side netting? It looked improbable that he got it in from that angle. Mahon (who otherwise had a shocking first half) gave the scoreline a flattering look at half time with a fantastic strike, and after the strange disallowed goal, we actually started to play football and got back on level terms with another fine long range strike. We really should have gone on to win it from there, but we seemed to lose momentum. It's like this team is always either losing or desperately trying not to lose. By the last few minutes, we were camped in our own half and this is where, sadly, you have to point the finger at the manager. No team in this division should be seeing a point at home to Sutton as worth defending for their lives for. You could see, feel and smell that Sutton winner coming. I wouldn't have been so bothered about losing that game if we'd been caught on the break while pushing for a winner, but we lost it because we invited pressure on ourselves under the belief that a single point at home to Sutton United in August is not worth the risk of losing, and we still managed to lose it. That's sad, and it's an attitude that will get us relegated. I would bring Lynch back in for Mitchell, who doesn't fill me with confidence, and I've seen enough of Chapell who was mostly to blame for the third goal by running the ball into nowhere and losing it as he always does. Overall though, I don't think this is a bad team but it's like they're all playing with a ball and chain around their ankles. Maybe they'd play better if they just ignored the manager and did their own thing? It felt like that was the case in the second half. I think with McCarthy, the only question is whether we sack him now and deal with the bad PR of sacking a manager "after four games", or do the gentlemanly and courteous thing and give him 8-10 games, but deep down, I think we all know it's not going to change, is it? There's no manager on the planet whose job hasn't been under threat at some point, but I don't think I've ever been so sure that a Chester manager isn't going to turn things round as I am with McCarthy. Not sure what to make of Sutton. I thought they looked very decent first half, but perhaps that was mainly because we were making them look good as they seemed very average in the second. They looked confident and 'streetwise' more than anything, which is maybe a polite way of saying dirty and whiny, but they deserved the three points over the 90 minutes. Don't think they'll be up there at the end of the season though. Indirect free kick that went in with out another Sutton player touching the ball before it went in. |
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Post by blue4life on Aug 19, 2017 19:51:20 GMT
McCarthy won 13 points out of a possible 78, at any other club he'd of gone long time ago.
The club need to grow a set of balls and act now.
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 19, 2017 19:51:55 GMT
The disallowed Sutton goal was a strange one. I don't think I've ever seen so much time pass between the ball going in the net and it being ruled out, so I can understand why some sources reported that Sutton had gone 3-1 up. The ball was back in the centre circle and the teams we're mostly ready to kick off again, but then I saw Astles and a few other blue shirts in discussion with the linesman and it seems they changed their mind. Not even sure what the problem with the goal was, but to be fair it shouldn't have been a free kick in the first place so maybe these things even themselves out. Indirect free kick that went in with out another Sutton player touching the ball before it went in. Linesman flagged for offside following the discussion with the referee. Definitely wasn't an indirect free kick. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 19, 2017 20:00:38 GMT
Indirect free kick that went in with out another Sutton player touching the ball before it went in. Linesman flagged for offside following the discussion with the referee. Definitely wasn't an indirect free kick. Is there any such thing as an Indirect Free Kick these days? I thought they had been binned off, as they "caused confusion". I actually thought the ref had a good game today. He tried to let the game flow, played advantage then brought it back if none occurred. One of the best we've had in ages. Mind you, always helps when they surprisingly disallow a goal for the opposition! That was almost the turning point of the game. |
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Post by mrburns on Aug 19, 2017 20:01:15 GMT
I caught a pokemon on pokemon go at the game highlight of the 1st half tbfh!
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 19, 2017 20:03:03 GMT
Where do you start with that? I think most of the points on here have been well made already. First game for me this year following return from holiday and I took up my new season ticket position in an ideal place to monitor the effectiveness of Rio as a ball boy.
The first half was indeed utterly appalling - we did not have a clue. Sutton were good for the two goal lead, both goals could have been defended better. Way too much time and space on the edge of the area for the first one (although to be fair he hit it well) and then a great strike again for the second just clipping in off the edge of the post (should a keeper be beaten at his near post though?)
Tactics were bizarre a times as well, particularly the insistence of bringing back everyone at corners. which meant that from a clearance the ball just came straight back. It was the booing of this that was so palpably obvious to the crowd that got McCarthy turning round and having a moan at the crowd. Whilst you can sense his frustration and pressure that sort of behaviour is only going to end in one way and really does indicate a guy who doesn't really know why it isn't working. Mahon's goal came out of nothing and have us a lift and for much of the second half the performance was a total transformation and I genuinely fancied us to get a winner. However with 10 minutes to go we got deeper and deeper as it seemed an acceptance that a point was a good result took over and you could just see the winner coming.
I think we definitely have a better team than last year, and an overall better squad (if a little thin) but all the problems of last year were there to be seen once again and we are going to end up in the shit if something doesn't change. McCarthy is a weird one. he seems to be happy to say that it's a success for us to not be relegated but then in this weeks standard I read about him claiming that the 3-0 and 4-0 wins are just around the corner and how much he will enjoy them. It's not looking good for hik as I think the majority of the crowd have turned now and, unless there is a major upturn in results - which is not impossible but unlikely, I can't see a way out for him.
Shame because as the heart of it I believe he is a decent guy, much in the same way Graeme Taylor was a good bloke who knew his football but was way out of his depth in the England job.
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Post by Lobster on Aug 19, 2017 20:11:55 GMT
The first half was indeed utterly appalling - we did not have a clue. Sutton were good for the two goal lead, both goals could have been defended better. Way too much time and space on the edge of the area for the first one (although to be fair he hit it well) and then a great strike again for the second just clipping in off the edge of the post (should a keeper be beaten at his near post though?) From where I was, I honestly wondered if it had gone through the side netting and was a "ghost" goal. From the angle he hit it, if it hit the post at all you'd have thought it would have bounced away. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 19, 2017 20:13:18 GMT
I caught a pokemon on pokemon go at the game highlight of the 1st half tbfh! Was it Gloom?  |
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Post by weststandblue on Aug 19, 2017 20:13:49 GMT
McCarthy won 13 points out of a possible 78, at any other club he'd of gone long time ago. The club need to grow a set of balls and act now. Exactly this! Sack the clown |
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 19, 2017 20:14:11 GMT
The first half was indeed utterly appalling - we did not have a clue. Sutton were good for the two goal lead, both goals could have been defended better. Way too much time and space on the edge of the area for the first one (although to be fair he hit it well) and then a great strike again for the second just clipping in off the edge of the post (should a keeper be beaten at his near post though?) From where I was, I honestly wondered if it had gone through the side netting and was a "ghost" goal. From the angle he hit it, if it hit the post at all you'd have thought it would have bounced away. I was right behind the shot - it definitely went in! It just nicked the inside edge of the post and went across to the other corner. In defence of the keeper he couldn't have placed it any better and he did strike it pretty well. |
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 19, 2017 20:17:36 GMT
Linesman flagged for offside following the discussion with the referee. Definitely wasn't an indirect free kick. Is there any such thing as an Indirect Free Kick these days? I thought they had been binned off, as they "caused confusion". I actually thought the ref had a good game today. He tried to let the game flow, played advantage then brought it back if none occurred. One of the best we've had in ages. Mind you, always helps when they surprisingly disallow a goal for the opposition! That was almost the turning point of the game. Keeper picking up a backpass would be indirect - all direct free kick offences in the box result in a penalty. Not sure where you have heard that indirect free kicks have been binned off though. They're still in the laws of the game! |
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Post by rcb on Aug 19, 2017 20:27:20 GMT
Maybe. But if it gets one person back for the next 20 games that is £240 for the club. It's worth it. Some people still seem to miss the point about a fans owned club. Or maybe they just don't care. Either way we need everyone. One person stops coming, maybe their mate does too. Then the people they sit/stand with stop coming. Hopefully he's read it, felt guilty and decided to go after all. Makes me question how much of a fan some can be when you simply refuse to go because of the manager. Half of us on here would rather see someone else in charge but we go because we're Chester Fans. Nobody's asking you to start chanting JMs blue white army. I did my usual 130 mile round trip in attending today's game. Usual dross in the first half interspersed with a belligerent little shit having the ordasity to remonstrate with the home fans. Great to see what seemed to be a refusal by the team to follow McCarthy's tactics to lay down and die. Sad to see he got his own way(tactically) in the end though. As regards attendance, in my case money is not an issue. Value for money and entertainment are the key. With no other means of demonstrating one's objection to the seriousness of the current situation the only option at this point in time is to stop attending. It seems 700 people beat me to it. Where I sit I noted five nearby empty seats that were filled last year. Walk the streets with a placard if you want sqzl, but challenging the right of fans to cease attending is pathetic. Smacks of arrogance in fact. 700 paying clients at say £15 a time rounded down to £10,000 per match. Couple that with the ruinous outcome which relegation would bring and then, perhaps, meekly continuing to attend, kissing McCarthy's arse in some instances, will be to the long term detriment. Perhaps short term action now will bring the fiasco to an end and create a future for an otherwise doomed club. That's how serious I see the situation. Subject to the board growing a pair, I hope to be at the next home game. |
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Post by happyclapper on Aug 19, 2017 20:32:49 GMT
Is there any such thing as an Indirect Free Kick these days? I thought they had been binned off, as they "caused confusion". I actually thought the ref had a good game today. He tried to let the game flow, played advantage then brought it back if none occurred. One of the best we've had in ages. Mind you, always helps when they surprisingly disallow a goal for the opposition! That was almost the turning point of the game. Keeper picking up a backpass would be indirect - all direct free kick offences in the box result in a penalty. Not sure where you have heard that indirect free kicks have been binned off though. They're still in the laws of the game! Yeah indirect free kicks are definetly still part of the game. As long as no player touches the ball then you can't score direct, I thought our keeper had touched it but obviously not. Talking of the keeper he should not be getting beat at the near post like that, Lynch doesn't look in great shape but he's ours and i'd be inclined to put him in goal for the next game. McCarthy turning around and having a go at the fans WHO PAY HIS WAGES was bang out of order - that alone should be a sackable offense. The really frustrating thing is that at times we showed glimpses of what we can do but his tactics of sitting deep and not keeping a player out of the box on defending corners is not working and the board must see that like everyone else. We've lost 600 fans in 11 days - that's shocking and that means for all the good work commercially the club are doing off the pitch its not going to be enough |
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Post by Si on Aug 19, 2017 20:34:14 GMT
He is killing the enthusiasm for attending home games and killing any hope of an atmosphere. I used to enjoy when we would have a bit of a go and the crowd would get going but everyone these days has just had the fun sucked out of them. The likes of me and a lot of others have seen shit before and no doubt will again and we will always be back, but I fear that a continuation of this will ruin the younger crowd or at least kill their enthusiasm. A club like us cannot afford to turn a blind eye to the alarming decline in crowds.
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 19, 2017 20:39:33 GMT
The first half was indeed utterly appalling - we did not have a clue. Sutton were good for the two goal lead, both goals could have been defended better. Way too much time and space on the edge of the area for the first one (although to be fair he hit it well) and then a great strike again for the second just clipping in off the edge of the post (should a keeper be beaten at his near post though?) From where I was, I honestly wondered if it had gone through the side netting and was a "ghost" goal. From the angle he hit it, if it hit the post at all you'd have thought it would have bounced away. It curved in towards the goal and just caught the inside of the post. The chances of that happening is slim. Another two inches and it would have bounced out. Six inches the other way and you'd hope the keeper might save it. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 19, 2017 20:42:04 GMT
Is there any such thing as an Indirect Free Kick these days? I thought they had been binned off, as they "caused confusion". I actually thought the ref had a good game today. He tried to let the game flow, played advantage then brought it back if none occurred. One of the best we've had in ages. Mind you, always helps when they surprisingly disallow a goal for the opposition! That was almost the turning point of the game. Keeper picking up a backpass would be indirect - all direct free kick offences in the box result in a penalty. Not sure where you have heard that indirect free kicks have been binned off though. They're still in the laws of the game! An offside results in an indirect free kick as well, although very unlikely you'd score from it being in your own half. They still exist, but it would be strange to have given one in that situation. Also, if it was indirect, the ref should have had his arm in the air until it touched another player. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 19, 2017 20:45:32 GMT
Is there any such thing as an Indirect Free Kick these days? I thought they had been binned off, as they "caused confusion". I actually thought the ref had a good game today. He tried to let the game flow, played advantage then brought it back if none occurred. One of the best we've had in ages. Mind you, always helps when they surprisingly disallow a goal for the opposition! That was almost the turning point of the game. Keeper picking up a backpass would be indirect - all direct free kick offences in the box result in a penalty. Not sure where you have heard that indirect free kicks have been binned off though. They're still in the laws of the game! With the exception of the back pass to the keeper I can't remember the last time I saw one given. I must pay more attention! |
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Post by sqzl on Aug 19, 2017 21:00:08 GMT
Makes me question how much of a fan some can be when you simply refuse to go because of the manager. Half of us on here would rather see someone else in charge but we go because we're Chester Fans. Nobody's asking you to start chanting JMs blue white army. I did my usual 130 mile round trip in attending today's game. Usual dross in the first half interspersed with a belligerent little shit having the ordasity to remonstrate with the home fans. Great to see what seemed to be a refusal by the team to follow McCarthy's tactics to lay down and die. Sad to see he got his own way(tactically) in the end though. As regards attendance, in my case money is not an issue. Value for money and entertainment are the key. With no other means of demonstrating one's objection to the seriousness of the current situation the only option at this point in time is to stop attending. It seems 700 people beat me to it. Where I sit I noted five nearby empty seats that were filled last year. Walk the streets with a placard if you want sqzl, but challenging the right of fans to cease attending is pathetic. Smacks of arrogance in fact. 700 paying clients at say £15 a time rounded down to £10,000 per match. Couple that with the ruinous outcome which relegation would bring and then, perhaps, meekly continuing to attend, kissing McCarthy's arse in some instances, will be to the long term detriment. Perhaps short term action now will bring the fiasco to an end and create a future for an otherwise doomed club. That's how serious I see the situation. Subject to the board growing a pair, I hope to be at the next home game. Not sure what you're on about mate but if you see my other thread, I'm not a JM fan? I also share you're frustration given I live 109 miles from Chester, it's a 4-5hour drive in total. I was criticising people not attending because of the manager because it's Chester FC we all support, not JMFC. |
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