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Post by paw2904 on Aug 28, 2017 17:04:31 GMT
Who is the fitness coach? One or two of the lads seem to be 'sturdy', and injuries are most likely to occur when not fit. Can't believe what I heard in that post match interview. Players tired? Didn't Macc play on Sat? Doesn't accept any responsibility, let alone offer an apology. Over 2000 home fans, be lucky if 1500 at next one if nothing happens. Enough is enough. Macc played Friday night. He also said "tired performance" not tired players. Two different things. Tired performance is a mental thing. The long run of home defeats is getting to everyone. Understandably.
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Post by tonya on Aug 28, 2017 17:11:28 GMT
As said earlier I give him 10 games and then if things remain dire he would hopefully resign. Despite his critics Alabi was the difference for us last season. We have lost good players, for various reasons, and it appears we are thin on quality replacements. However 10 games is fair and if the manager still can't win at home he'll have to do the honourable thing.
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 28, 2017 17:14:40 GMT
Me again ha! No problem with playing the ball long but we had chappell up front. You play to your strengths Lincoln played alot of pace around Matt rhead. They executed a game plan. anyone involved in football like me knows the fundamental basics and tactics are missing. We had no width despite having mahon and chappell on. We had no Steel In midfield as Kingsley was being played as a number 10 Didn't get it today I really didn't This is a key point. Mahon and Chappell and both wingers why play so narrow. I sat next to a guy today who saw us for the first time and after 15 mins he commented about our lack of width. Everyone can see why doesn't JM? That poor fella probably won't be returning anytime soon.
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Post by dobshillblue on Aug 28, 2017 17:15:58 GMT
Just want to bring it back to the players body language lack of intensity they don't want to play for him. I appreciate the players may not be passionate about pulling the blue and white on as I would or anyone else on here. You can just see it though. You should be wary, scared wanting to do your best for your manager. That's the minimum I would expect. I know all that would have happened is that he would have clapped them and tried to pull out positives in the dressing room. That lack of presence, charisma and never say die attitude will kill this club and group of players
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 17:17:28 GMT
Sorry folks but I've genuinely run out of anything new or original to say after yet another abject performance.
Forget all this positive "spin" from the board, management and even the players. I personally believe there is an air of negativity bordering on defeatism permeating the playing side of the club, the players DO NOT look as if they're enjoying playing. A real fear now seems to grip the team, the atmosphere rapidly turns toxic and it becomes a vicious circle.
Why this is the case is a subject done to death every week.
I think this is a serious infection that's plonked us in A&E and requiring immediate surgery before it becomes terminal. Praying it will get better will not cure us!
Time for action I'm afraid
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Aug 28, 2017 17:21:23 GMT
As said earlier I give him 10 games and then if things remain dire he would hopefully resign. Despite his critics Alabi was the difference for us last season. We have lost good players, for various reasons, and it appears we are thin on quality replacements. However 10 games is fair and if the manager still can't win at home he'll have to do the honourable thing. No chance. We don't need to give him any more games. The man was found out before the end of last season and since then we've gone out of our way to delay the inevitible. We can't move forward as a club without a proper manager in charge of the team. Everybody surely now knows that Macca isn't a proper manager and we're wrecking our season with every week that passes under him. It was an embarrassing state of affairs at the end of last season. To think it's been so casually allowed to descend beyond that angers me.
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 28, 2017 17:24:44 GMT
One thing I do hope is if he is sacked, everyone will get down to the Deva for the remaining home games. The club need money to cover the loss from somewhere š
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Post by paulie on Aug 28, 2017 17:26:28 GMT
Anyone got a link to mcluless's interview today?
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Post by marner93 on Aug 28, 2017 17:26:54 GMT
I'd like to see him in a coaching role, he does a lot of work behind the scenes, however we need someone ruthless like Mark KKK Wright. I think we were second to every ball today.
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Post by Jack on Aug 28, 2017 17:28:05 GMT
These players are much better than they are showing. I'm not convinced by LRT or McCombe and I've lost the will to live with Chappell but you can't tell me this isn't a better 11 than we had last season.
McCarthy brought in his own players and the performances are just as bad. He is the common denominator and he is the problem. A new manager will be able to work with what we've got because it really isn't a poor group of players.
He's deluded.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Aug 28, 2017 17:31:02 GMT
Why only 1 substitution and that at 88mins has he no faith in who he puts on the bench at 0-2 its got to be all change to try and get something but no 1 time wasting sub near the end Waters and Akintunde came on earlier . . . Sorry missed that was looking at BBC text which showed we made just 1 substitition useless bbc
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Post by whopper1 on Aug 28, 2017 17:35:39 GMT
One thing I do hope is if he is sacked, everyone will get down to the Deva for the remaining home games. The club need money to cover the loss from somewhere š I will be back wen mcarthy goes,b nice to watch a team managed by a proper manager
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 28, 2017 17:39:40 GMT
Deary me! Same old tactics, similar excuses, oh... and Ryan Astles ended up playing up front šš®. I honestly can't believe how we are still surviving with JM in charge. Macclesfield overplayed us today and deserved the win, albeit with a released Chester player in their ranks whilst 3 of their best players of last season in our team. However, we should be winning against a club of Macclesfield's resources (although it wasn't a surprise to see us lose). Winning our next 2 away games would be good, but I want to see a proud win at HOME for once, in front of us loyal fans. It's as if the Deva has turned into purgatory for us. That's how bad our performances at home have been since last year. There was about 2,000 Chester fans down here today, which is great but sadly, we are bound to lose 400 for our next home game after another dire showing. Today was a perfect opportunity to entice the 'floating' supporters back, but we've lost them again. We have two must-win games coming up against struggling opposition. Anything less than 4 points will not be good enough. I'm really looking forward to going to Torquay on Saturday, but at the same time I want to see us go all-out and win the game. Frustrating to watch today, but at least we play away on Saturday š.
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Post by rcb on Aug 28, 2017 17:44:00 GMT
Come on Chester board members - wake up and smell the coffee. Macclesfield lost their best players to us, and got two of our rejects. Probably a lower budget than us as well. We completed our deals early, and returned to training early to get a strategic advantage. Macclesfield on the other hand were in turmoil, struggling to assemble a squad until the last minute. They still beat us comfortably today, so other than the manager what reason can you give to the fans?
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Post by billyw on Aug 28, 2017 17:44:20 GMT
Deary me! Same old tactics, similar excuses, oh... and Ryan Astles ended up playing up front šš®. I honestly can't believe how we are still surviving with JM in charge. Macclesfield overplayed us today and deserved the win, albeit with a released Chester player in their ranks whilst 3 of their best players of last season in our team. However, we should be winning against a club of Macclesfield's resources (although it wasn't a surprise to see us lose). Winning our next 2 away games would be good, but I want to see a proud win at HOME for once, in front of us loyal fans. It's as if the Deva has turned into purgatory for us. That's how bad our performances at home have been since last year. There was about 2,000 Chester fans down here today, which is great but sadly, we are bound to lose 400 for our next home game after another dire showing. Today was a perfect opportunity to entice the 'floating' supporters back, and we've lost them again. We have two must-win games coming up against struggling opposition. Anything less than 4 points will not be good enough. I'm really looking forward to going to Torquay on Saturday, but at the same time I want to see us go all-out and win the game. Frustrating to watch today, but at least we play away on Saturday š. Careful Rio, you are turning into one of those 'moaning idiots' you complained about. Fair play to you though lad, when you don't use a nom de plume that second sentence takes some bottle
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Post by dobshillblue on Aug 28, 2017 17:46:26 GMT
If you watched Whittaker today floating around the pitch pulling the strings nothing fancy just disciplined and new exactly his role. Our players were swapping positions panicking and lacked bravery to commit to taking on players. You could see how scared they were some people may say it's stupid but I in my opinion that bravery is vital in this league and we just lack it in spades. Sad to see that today
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 28, 2017 17:47:49 GMT
Deary me! Same old tactics, similar excuses, oh... and Ryan Astles ended up playing up front šš®. I honestly can't believe how we are still surviving with JM in charge. Macclesfield overplayed us today and deserved the win, albeit with a released Chester player in their ranks whilst 3 of their best players of last season in our team. However, we should be winning against a club of Macclesfield's resources (although it wasn't a surprise to see us lose). Winning our next 2 away games would be good, but I want to see a proud win at HOME for once, in front of us loyal fans. It's as if the Deva has turned into purgatory for us. That's how bad our performances at home have been since last year. There was about 2,000 Chester fans down here today, which is great but sadly, we are bound to lose 400 for our next home game after another dire showing. Today was a perfect opportunity to entice the 'floating' supporters back, and we've lost them again. We have two must-win games coming up against struggling opposition. Anything less than 4 points will not be good enough. I'm really looking forward to going to Torquay on Saturday, but at the same time I want to see us go all-out and win the game. Frustrating to watch today, but at least we play away on Saturday š. Careful Rio, you are turning into one of those 'moaning idiots' you complained about. Fair play to you though lad, when you don't use a nom de plume that second sentence takes some bottleĀ That was a while ago I said that. It's true though, the board needs to act sooner rather than later. He has lost the fans, and now the dressing room. I've been to all 14 home matches and agree with most things said on this thread.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Aug 28, 2017 18:05:21 GMT
That was shocking, today. There is nothing wrong with playing a long ball game, if you have the players. eg. 2 massive centre forwards and a midfield that is capable of winning the second ball. It might not be pretty, but it works for Tony Pulis. But to try and play the long ball game, with Chappell upfront and the players we have, is clearly suicide. # There was no width, no passion and we were second to every ball. There may be a decent passing team, in there somewhere, but these tactics are killing us.
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Post by Finland Blue on Aug 28, 2017 18:05:43 GMT
Deary me! Same old tactics, similar excuses, oh... and Ryan Astles ended up playing up front šš®. I honestly can't believe how we are still surviving with JM in charge. Macclesfield overplayed us today and deserved the win, albeit with a released Chester player in their ranks whilst 3 of their best players of last season in our team. However, we should be winning against a club of Macclesfield's resources (although it wasn't a surprise to see us lose). Winning our next 2 away games would be good, but I want to see a proud win at HOME for once, in front of us loyal fans. It's as if the Deva has turned into purgatory for us. That's how bad our performances at home have been since last year. There was about 2,000 Chester fans down here today, which is great but sadly, we are bound to lose 400 for our next home game after another dire showing. Today was a perfect opportunity to entice the 'floating' supporters back, and we've lost them again. We have two must-win games coming up against struggling opposition. Anything less than 4 points will not be good enough. I'm really looking forward to going to Torquay on Saturday, but at the same time I want to see us go all-out and win the game. Frustrating to watch today, but at least we play away on Saturday š. Careful Rio, you are turning into one of those 'moaning idiots' you complained about. Ā Fair play to you though lad, when you don't use a nom de plume that second sentence takes some bottleĀ And he's not wrong in anything he says is he?
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Post by Al on Aug 28, 2017 18:19:55 GMT
Who is the fitness coach? One or two of the lads seem to be 'sturdy', and injuries are most likely to occur when not fit. Can't believe what I heard in that post match interview. Players tired? Didn't Macc play on Sat? Doesn't accept any responsibility, let alone offer an apology. Over 2000 home fans, be lucky if 1500 at next one if nothing happens. Enough is enough. Said this the other week mate. Players don't look sharp and a few look like they're carrying extra weight. For professional footballers it is not good enough. Players have played 6 games and he complains of tiredness. Absolute joke. 6 games in they should surely to God be fresh!! Urgent changes are required. McCarthy needs to go, and we need to get a man in to sort this bloody team out. Short term deals NO MORE 2 YEAR DEALS FOR FUCK SAKE!!!
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Post by Anders on Aug 28, 2017 18:22:00 GMT
McCarthyās post-match interview today is absurd, full of excuses whilst huffing and puffing about being asked questions that he doesnāt like. Heās arguing and accusing one of the media lads of having an agenda against him whilst trying to defend the indefensible. He just looks completely out of his depth with the pressure telling.
This was the acid test, I said that after Saturday and heās failed miserably. The occasional scrappy lucky away win isnāt enough, nowhere near.
Itās a shambles, man up and end it.
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Post by bing on Aug 28, 2017 18:36:12 GMT
The thing that stood out for me today was the lack of geeing eachother up for one final push. With 20 minutes to go I would expect at 1, 2 or even 3 down, players to be beating their chests, yelling to eachother, "come on... next goal!" etc.
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Post by paulie on Aug 28, 2017 18:37:18 GMT
McCarthyās post-match interview today is absurd, full of excuses whilst huffing and puffing about being asked questions that he doesnāt like. Heās arguing and accusing one of the media lads of having an agenda against him whilst trying to defend the indefensible. He just looks completely out of his depth with the pressure telling. This was the acid test, I said that after Saturday and heās failed miserably. The occasional scrappy lucky away win isnāt enough, nowhere near. Itās a shambles, man up and end it. That bit in the interview made me laugh. He tried to blame the media for causing problems between himself and the fans.
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Post by bluesince72 on Aug 28, 2017 18:39:41 GMT
To fail to score when starting without a recognised striker is predictable and may even be acceptable, but to concede two soft goals and put in another lame passionless display is disgraceful.
We have a squad that has far more quality in it than we had last season, last seasons team would almost certainly have lost all six games with this manager in charge, but its not the players ability as individuals that is letting us down, it is the inability of the manager to set the team up in a way that suits the strengths of his players, to enable them to express themselves and look like they are enjoying playing as a team. He has failed dismally to instil passion and belief in the team. Every manager must be a leader, a motivator, the driving force behind his team, Macca is none of these, the board must collectively grow a pair and ACT NOW before itās too late to save this season, and more importantly our status in national football, relegation to regional football would be a blow this club would struggle recover from.
Macca is a nice guy, extremely hard working, and has done a lot of good stuff on the community side, BUT this is a results business, and we have more than enough evidence now proving that he is simply not up to the managers job. His time is up; itās time to go, not in weeks, or even days but tomorrow morning. If the board donāt act immediately then, as a fan owned club, we need an EGM to force the necessary changes needed to sort out this mess before it is too late!
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 28, 2017 18:54:43 GMT
The next three games are crucial now. Torquay and Solihull away, then Ebbsfleet at home.
If Akintunde isn't going to be fully fit by the weekend, or even if he is, we need a striker in on loan. Trying to muddle through those games may cost us dear come end of the season. It may also affect the mood and attitude of the players too. They looked totally frustrated and fed up today. Just like the rest of us.
With the exception of James (my MoM today), Astles, McCombe, Mahon and Dawson, we looked really poor today.
We never pick up any second ball. Every team we play moves the ball around really well, while we struggle to keep it at all.
Am I missing something with Turnbull? He can pass the ball fairly well but he can't run around the pitch. You can't play a central two with him in it. Maybe that's why the wide men tuck in so much. Is he actually any better than Joyce?
Rowe-Turner's positional play looks simply wrong. He tucks in so far that there are yards of space for them to run into. Every team we've played has identified that. He also stands five yards ahead of the rest of the back four. Leaving space behind him too. JMc must be happy with it as he does nothing about it.
I believe the next three games will decide when JMc leaves. luckily for him (and us!) four of the next five games are away.
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Post by Jack on Aug 28, 2017 19:04:12 GMT
That was rubbish.
Our wingers play like defensive midfielders. I've never seen a team as narrow as we are and it leaves absolutely no option for the man on the ball. It's without question the most frustrating Chester side I can remember watching. Aimless punts or passing into a congested middle where we instantly lose it.
It's not a one off either, this is actually how our manager wants us to play.
I actually don't feel I can judge any of the players fairly, because they're totally restricted by an inept manager. I see potential in all of the summer signings, I think they can all offer something but we will not find out until the board pull the trigger.
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Post by btb on Aug 28, 2017 19:15:24 GMT
That second goal was arguably one of the worst I've ever seen us concede. We pull 11 players back in to the box. The opposition are like a dog with two dicks at seeing this and they then throw every man and his dog in there. It becomes total chaos, the ball flys across our six yard box and their player has the easiest goal he will ever score. I could have scored it. For a man who prides himself on his hard work and leaving no stone unturned, this is a shambles. And what was going on with our set play? It's all so Sunday league. This bloke is playing at football manager and it's all starting to feel a bit Terry Smith. He's a good coach we're told. Watch his pre match warming up of the back four. Go now please because I can't take much more of this dross.
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 28, 2017 19:18:25 GMT
Just a quick question, what does he learn from all those hours pouring over DVD's?
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Post by noddy on Aug 28, 2017 19:33:18 GMT
Just a quick question, what does he learn from all those hours pouring over DVD's? That everyone is better than us, therefore we try to combat the opposition rather than them having to worry about us! Just seen the post match Macclesfield interview, quite bizarre from McCarthy and in some respects bang out of order in his attitude towards perfectly reasonable questioning. I don't buy this "nice" guy persona either, he sounds and seems quite an unpleasant, bitter individual with his responses.
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Post by MPW on Aug 28, 2017 19:38:43 GMT
Come on Chester board members - wake up and smell the coffee. Macclesfield lost their best players to us, and got two of our rejects. Probably a lower budget than us as well. We completed our deals early, and returned to training early to get a strategic advantage. Macclesfield on the other hand were in turmoil, struggling to assemble a squad until the last minute. They still beat us comfortably today, so other than the manager what reason can you give to the fans? Spot on there, shows what a difference a good manager can make.
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