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Post by Matt on Aug 30, 2017 14:05:13 GMT
Just about to watch it myself, let's see what he has to say.
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Post by blue4life on Aug 30, 2017 14:18:41 GMT
Basically backing McCarthy to come good.
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Post by marner93 on Aug 30, 2017 14:19:31 GMT
Players are happy, basically we can't afford to sack him.
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Post by Al on Aug 30, 2017 14:27:36 GMT
Everyone's happy, everyone's positive.
"We're not afraid to make a strong decision as a board"
If that's the case why's he still in charge? 3 points from 42 at home says all you need to know.
"Everyone was pleased with the battling performance against Fylde"
First half I was quite happy, it was an entertaining half until we came out second half and reverted to lumping the ball forward and sitting deep.
"Second half against Sutton was fantastic until that sucker punch in the last minute"
30min of the second half was good until we sat back and tried to see out the draw by hoofing it long and sitting deep.
And then the usual guff about "we're on the verge of something special here" etc etc etc.
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Post by Matt on Aug 30, 2017 14:39:22 GMT
Everyone's happy, everyone's positive. "We're not afraid to make a strong decision as a board" If that's the case why's he still in charge? 3 points from 42 at home says all you need to know. "Everyone was pleased with the battling performance against Fylde" First half I was quite happy, it was an entertaining half until we came out second half and reverted to lumping the ball forward and sitting deep. "Second half against Sutton was fantastic until that sucker punch in the last minute" 30min of the second half was good until we sat back and tried to see out the draw by hoofing it long and sitting deep. And then the usual guff about "we're on the verge of something special here" etc etc etc. Don't forget "But we beat Aldershot"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 14:40:35 GMT
Very much a "corporate" type of interview saying a lot without saying a lot.
Big thing for me is MM's real difficulty in acknowledging that it's not just the results it's the MANNER of the results especially at home where quality performances are crucial to our very being.
My fear that not much will happen in the coming days and weeks is growing. I think we'll come to regret our indecision
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 14:48:31 GMT
As an aside, we're currently 5/6 to finish in the bottom 4, in odds terms we're already being "cut adrift"
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 30, 2017 14:52:11 GMT
Basically, we are going to have to sit tight and see what happens over 'the next few weeks' and then it will be taken from there. I'm assuming there must be 'objectives' linked to potential points scores at intervals during the season. Very much the impression I get is that last season doesn't really matter and there will be no knee jerk reactions off the back of a handful of bad results this season. If the players are happy, the back room staff are happy and the manager wins so much confidence, why have results been so diabolical for so long, under two different squads? That has to be the question being asked. If everything is so rosy in the garden, why hasn't it 'clicked' for so long and why was it 'clicking' last Autumn? At the end of the day there be 1500 there for the Ebbsfleet and Maidenhead games, unless there is a major turnaround, and crowds aren't going to recover to a level that keeps us financially viable until this manager turns around the perception of 90% of the fanbase. It's going to take a hell of a run to do that!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 14:52:43 GMT
13 minutes of waffle, full of buzzwords.
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Post by bitbbh on Aug 30, 2017 15:04:31 GMT
The interview scirts around something called "measured objectives" without ever disclosing what they are. Another 13 minutes im not going to get back to add to the 90 from Monday.
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Post by g1 on Aug 30, 2017 15:05:34 GMT
This guy is the problem been involved in every wrong decision this club has made
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Post by superman on Aug 30, 2017 15:14:15 GMT
At the back end of last season it was obvious to me that Jon McCarthy was not the man to manager the first team, Chris I. should have been shown the door, and an experienced first team manager/coach appointed. Would have been more than happy for Jon to have been moved sideways to a role more suited to his talents. I expressed my thoughts directly to the club. What happened, JM still manager, CI still around, and a player/coach with zero experience appointed. We seem to have millstone around our neck. Would like to see action taken now, however suspect that JM has been given a certain number of games to demonstrate that he can turn things round. You would realistically expect that poor results and performances in the next 2 games will seal his fate, but will it?
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Post by chesterken on Aug 30, 2017 15:15:00 GMT
I want to see performances you can't always get results but I would like to see us go out and play for 90 minutes, when was the last time that happened. We have had good spell in the first half followed by dross in the second or we are terrible in the first half but improve in the second, we had extra training before the start of the season to improve fitness but we have seen very little of this on the pitch we just don't seem to be able to be be able to perform for a whole game
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Post by Lobster on Aug 30, 2017 15:17:23 GMT
Come on Mark, this has to end, surely?
I hate to say it, but I'm almost dreading the fact that we might actually scrape 4-6 points from these two upcoming away games against weakish sides, thus delaying the inevitable even further. Long term, it might actually be for the best if we lose them.
I'd never hope for us to lose - my hope is that we pick up points at Torquay and Solihull, then Macca suddenly turns round the home form and we all look back and laugh at how we were all calling for his head. My fear is that he'll just be buying himself more time before the inevitable, and it's back to the usual home dross against Ebbsfleet.
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Post by trev on Aug 30, 2017 15:25:15 GMT
This is a quite long and often repetitive interview. Clearly, the board and MM are praying for everything to come good. But as MM himself says himself something is not clicking, but at the same time everything is so positive? I do find it quite unrealistic why it was felt McCarthy should have been able to start with a blank sheet for this season, which conveniently ignores the manager's appalling record of the last season, that MM simply refers to as an “emotional legacy" yet the same dreadful performances and results are continuing with us in the bottom 4. Nevertheless, the message is that he will be given more time given the apparently "strong conversations" which have taken place and that the onus is now on the players to deliver for the manager. Interestingly, at around 8.30, MM says, "we are not blindly carrying on because he's got a contract which prevents us from doing anything about his position". So, is the Club able to pay him off or not ?
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Post by Oaks Blue on Aug 30, 2017 15:55:56 GMT
Long and short of it, MM knows F.All about why the squad can't win at home. But makes apologies for everyone...
Pointless interview.
Get rid of both
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Aug 30, 2017 15:56:55 GMT
There's some serious head burying going on at our club. It's not good enough.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 30, 2017 15:59:19 GMT
I'd be interested in standing near some fellow DC'ers at Solihull just to see if we are all on the same page! I THINK WE ARE
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Post by devaboyreturns on Aug 30, 2017 15:59:51 GMT
A couple of bad results at home - FFS, we haven't won at home since last December !!!!
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Post by billyw on Aug 30, 2017 16:15:22 GMT
Basically, we are going to have to sit tight and see what happens over 'the next few weeks' and then it will be taken from there. I'm assuming there must be 'objectives' linked to potential points scores at intervals during the season. Very much the impression I get is that last season doesn't really matter and there will be no knee jerk reactions off the back of a handful of bad results this season. If the players are happy, the back room staff are happy and the manager wins so much confidence, why have results been so diabolical for so long, under two different squads? That has to be the question being asked. If everything is so rosy in the garden, why hasn't it 'clicked' for so long and why was it 'clicking' last Autumn? At the end of the day there be 1500 there for the Ebbsfleet and Maidenhead games, unless there is a major turnaround, and crowds aren't going to recover to a level that keeps us financially viable until this manager turns around the perception of 90% of the fanbase. It's going to take a hell of a run to do that! The players are happy, the backroom staff are happy, the manager is happy - Well Mr MaGuire we poor sods who put money in and own the club are not happy. When we get relegated at the end of the season, will you still be happy when you are down at the Job centre.
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Post by trev on Aug 30, 2017 16:18:24 GMT
I'd be interested in standing near some fellow DC'ers at Solihull just to see if we are all on the same page! I THINK WE ARE Not just DCers, but from my admittedly less than scientific poll, on 85 mins against Macc, many if not most of the season ticket holders around me in C block were expressing the same view that enough was enough and he must go now. I believe the large majority of fans are pretty much on the same page and wish the Board to act decisively, rather than continue with this shambles.
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Post by chesterblueboy on Aug 30, 2017 16:26:16 GMT
Much as I expected from MM. To be fair to him you cannot expect him to say 'JM is a terrible manager and we are as disappointed as 90% of the fans and should never have offered him a contract extension' However it would appear that the board/MM have been shocked (as I was tbh) at how vocal many in the crowd were on Monday, all making the point of clearly blaming McCarthy and then clapping the players (incidentally Turnbull was fuming at being taken off when there were others eg Mahon who were having terrible games - I doubt if the board/MM spoke to him he'd say everything was positive!!)
I would guess that the board have spoken to McCarthy (possibly before the Aldershot game) and made it clear that performances (particularly at home) must improve and giving him a measurable target (minimum number of points) and at least a home win by mid September. That way the compensation they would have to pay would be minimal.
I personally would sack him now and get somebody else in immediately (& get Shaw back playing!! Jees the guy is only 30-younger than Hannah & McCombe!!!) but none of us know how much that would cost, so the decision may have already made and we are just trying to save our club quite a lot of money!!!
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Post by iandychesterfc on Aug 30, 2017 16:33:03 GMT
We all knew he was getting the next 2 games as a minimum. 2 games vs 2 bottom sides, 4 points must be the minimum.
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Post by steveo1 on Aug 30, 2017 16:35:20 GMT
Not even seen it yet and am not sure I want to. It will be full of crap and buzzwords trying to brainwash us all in to believing the manager is the next Fergie.
I am sick of all this interviews from him, the manager and even players talking a good game but showing no action. I feel for the players, probably scared to speak out in case they get Johnny shunt or Durrell treatment for caring. No way are them players happy playing this way.
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Post by trev on Aug 30, 2017 16:38:22 GMT
Much as I expected from MM. To be fair to him you cannot expect him to say 'JM is a terrible manager and we are as disappointed as 90% of the fans and should never have offered him a contract extension' However it would appear that the board/MM have been shocked (as I was tbh) at how vocal many in the crowd were on Monday, all making the point of clearly blaming McCarthy and then clapping the players (incidentally Turnbull was fuming at being taken off when there were others eg Mahon who were having terrible games - I doubt if the board/MM spoke to him he'd say everything was positive!!) I would guess that the board have spoken to McCarthy (possibly before the Aldershot game) and made it clear that performances (particularly at home) must improve and giving him a measurable target (minimum number of points) and at least a home win by mid September. That way the compensation they would have to pay would be minimal. I personally would sack him now and get somebody else in immediately (& get Shaw back playing!! Jees the guy is only 30-younger than Hannah & McCombe!!!) but none of us know how much that would cost, so the decision may have already made and we are just trying to save our club quite a lot of money!!!But unless my hearing was deceiving me, MM said, "we are not blindly carrying on because he's got a contract which prevents us from doing anything about his position". So, although it will come at a high cost, it appears the Club could remove him if it wished to do so, without undermining its financial position.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 16:54:27 GMT
i reckon next 2 games lose both he's gone draw both then severe under pressure win and draw keeps him going for another week or 2 win win gives him extra time
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Post by rcb on Aug 30, 2017 16:58:42 GMT
The interview gave me all I needed to know. Time and time again, when referring to the board, Maguire used the words "we" and "us". I'm told he is not on the board, but the interview makes it clear to me that he is in total control of the board, he thinks he is the board, and the board do what he wants. In my opinion the McCarthy contract was all his doing and if McCarthy is sacked it would reflect badly on Maguire. I have absolutely no faith in either of the M's and can see nothing other than relegation unless there is a strong act of mutiny by the players. I await the wrath of the M&M lovers once again.
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Post by Paul Da Part on Aug 30, 2017 17:02:50 GMT
As a fan owned club, why does it feel like the situation is being taken out of our hands? We've made our point clear. If the board were not listen to us, our hands are tied. Won't be long before the fans could turn on the board. We don't want that to happen but how else can we actually get our point across without going to CFU meetings? Maguire doesn't fill me with confidence to be brutally honest. Yes, he's done ok commercially but I have my lingering doubts when it comes to the playing side of things. Back McCarthy all you like, it'll end in relegation & then we really are in the brown stuff.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 30, 2017 17:29:29 GMT
The interview gave me all I needed to know. Time and time again, when referring to the board, Maguire used the words "we" and "us". I'm told he is not on the board, but the interview makes it clear to me that he is in total control of the board, he thinks he is the board, and the board do what he wants. In my opinion the McCarthy contract was all his doing and if McCarthy is sacked it would reflect badly on Maguire. I have absolutely no faith in either of the M's and can see nothing other than relegation unless there is a strong act of mutiny by the players. I await the wrath of the M&M lovers once again. Exactly my suspicions for a while. We have a weak board and this guy basically runs the show.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Aug 30, 2017 17:43:43 GMT
From this interview it seems that matters are being considered solely on the basis of this seasons results thus far. The fact that we were woeful from January to the end of the season has been brushed aside. That isn't acceptable imo. Ok new season clean slate etc given people a chance. If we was to get six points from the next two games we wouldn't be that badly placed. From the interview you can't see a trigger being pulled anytime soon.
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