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Post by Al on Sept 6, 2017 5:42:21 GMT
Currently 7500 miles away, maybe not a bad thing at the moment, so relying on summaries and comments from others. Yet again you could "cut and paste" virtually any post from previous match threads and apply it to this game. CRISIS and FREEFALL are not too strong words regarding our predicament. The frustration and downright anger at the situation AND the fact that it's been on the cards for months seems to have reached new heights tonight. In my view, a strong board, whether in football or business, needs to act quickly and decisively to lance the boil. The alternative, I fear, is too ghastly to contemplate, indeed, indecision may prove terminal in the long term. JM's position is now untenable, results + playing style + fans lack of faith + players not performing all adds up to what will be a toxic atmosphere on Saturday. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I'll miss that one as well but I dearly hope the club has acted before then. On a purely personal note, moan, groan and criticise but personal abuse towards JM does nobody any favours, we should be better than that Aye it could describe any and all our performances at home or away since Boxing Day last year. That's the biggest issue I have with him is that he just merrily carries on with the same old shite, day in day out despite bring able to see its not working. The man is deluded, listening to his post match interview again hammers it home. He is not a manager, he should not be manager of this football club. If he wants to play at being a manager let him try his luck in an Evo Stik club or lower. |
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Post by thetheremin on Sept 6, 2017 6:11:50 GMT
Let battle commence. Richard, Thetheremin, where are you... I refer you to my earlier reply. Once we have a situation where the manager has clearly lost the fans his position has become untenable. That threshold was crossed last night. With McCarthy's brand of football there's no way the fans can be won back, and by estimation every home game from now on while this continues will lose us serious money. Just 500 missing fans translates to a minimum £6k lloss. A thousand missing fans is minimum £12k. We're quickly going to be a thousand fans under break-even. I wanted to give him ten games but I'm seriously worried that two more games like this will drive all confidence out of the squad. |
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Post by Lobster on Sept 6, 2017 6:22:00 GMT
I thought Rowe Turner had a good game tonight, I thohhht he was quick, powerful and put a shift in. He then made the awful mistake for the second goal but other than that I was impressed, I think he'll end up being a decent player for us I've seen decent moments from him, although he seems a bit erratic. I kind of think we should reserve judgment on all the new players for now as they're playing in ridiculous circumstances. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 6, 2017 6:30:50 GMT
Let battle commence. Richard, Thetheremin, where are you... Richard will probably be too busy offering 'nice guy' Jon some emotional support at this difficult time. |
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Post by rollo on Sept 6, 2017 8:16:54 GMT
Living in Worcester this was the first time I have seen the side for a while. As a member of the Supporters Trust No 699 I have supported the team all my life, but have to say this was one of the poorest performances I have witnessed in my 70 years. 650 gate 216 which were from Chester says a lot about the relative strengths of the clubs, we should be able to compete.
Briefly; no one seems to want to keep the ball/ no one seems able to run at an opposition player / passing is often accurate but to little effect/ we played with width but the quality of crossing is poor/ Joyce sees at lot of the ball but not to much effect/ Rowe Turner looked decent apart form his crosses. I could go on.
The teams confidence will be at an all time low , what is to be done? As with Burr we have made an enormous mistake in giving such a long contract to a manger, no doubt with the best of intentions. Jon is a bit of a PA disaster, keep him away for the interview. I don't think we can afford to pay him off, so give him another role with very tight , defined tasks and objectives with the community side of the club and possibly scouting opponents. Approach Graham Barrow and see if he will help us out in the short term, perhaps paid on results with a good bonus if he keeps us in the division. Whatever is done the decision will not be easy and we as fans should be grateful to those who give their time to run a fans owned club. We have had a raft of chairman over the last three years and this for me is a worry and has possibly lead to the sort of decisions we have seen.
When you look at the Solihull Moors ground we should be grateful for the infrastructure we have, however I have to say that considering the downpour before the game the pitch stood up very well.
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 6, 2017 9:33:35 GMT
How bad was that last night? I travelled back from Yorkshire during the day, then down to Solihull in a monsoon for that. In a way I'm glad I went to witness it. You had to be there to appreciate how poor it was.
Solihull will do well to stay up. They were really limited.
Bringing in a loan signing is something I've been on about for a while, but why a fullback? We still don't have any fit strikers, judging on last night.
I thought Halls, McCombe and Rowe-Turner did well first half.
One effort from Chappell summed him up. Played through, the keeper came charging out and stopped. There was a huge gap far post. All it needed was a neat shot with the instep to curl it in far post. He scuffed it along the floor wide of the near post. You'd have been embarrassed yourself with that!
We had a very cautious defensive set up. Bell up front on his own. Dawson, James, Turnbull and Joyce with Chappell trotting about. Bell looked useless, didn't hold a ball up all night and gave it away. Not much help though.
As the game wore on we ended up with Bell, Hannah, James a d Shaw all standing in a row up front while we moved it about a bit then long balled up from a central position. Surely you move it wide, then cross it against ten men?
Whatever game plan we started with had reduced to desperation as the game wore on. Something doesn't look right with the players for me. They look totally frustrated after 7 games.
For those considering not going Saturday, I would suggest we all turn up. Get behind the team during the game, as we did for the Macc game. Once the game is lost, then let our feelings known. That will pressure the Board into action and they will feel they have no alternative but to change manager. Anyone who saw last night's loss to a very poor Solihull team will know there really is no other option now.
Edit - By "once the game is lost" I didn't necessarily mean after it has finished. It could be lost after 80 minutes. 10 minutes of chanting would be very effective and have the desired affect.
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Post by richard on Sept 6, 2017 9:58:13 GMT
Let battle commence. Richard, Thetheremin, where are you... I refer you to my earlier reply. Once we have a situation where the manager has clearly lost the fans his position has become untenable. That threshold was crossed last night. With McCarthy's brand of football there's no way the fans can be won back, and by estimation every home game from now on while this continues will lose us serious money. Just 500 missing fans translates to a minimum £6k lloss. A thousand missing fans is minimum £12k. We're quickly going to be a thousand fans under break-even. I wanted to give him ten games but I'm seriously worried that two more games like this will drive all confidence out of the squad. As I have said repeatedly on other threads, our board will make the decisions that need to be made. It's a real conundrum. We lose fans and therefore lose lots of money or we part ways with a manager who is in a long term contract and lose money and then have the double whammy of having to pay someone else. Since reforming, save a few blips, we have managed to keep our heads above the water in financial terms. Nobody can argue that money matters in terms of success on the pitch and yes, i know that there are other examples of clubs who have fared better with less resources too, but we are where we are. So, what do we do? Well, I don't have all the answers, but I do know that our absolute priority is survival, so any decisions made must reflect that in terms of long term sustainability. Would also like to echo the comments made earlier on this thread. There is no excuse for personal abuse against people on this forum, be it to fellow posters or club employees. We all want the same thing ultimately and even in difficult situations where emotions run high, we should avoid name calling. |
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Post by blue4life on Sept 6, 2017 10:03:27 GMT
McCarthy deserves all the abuse he gets.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 6, 2017 10:07:31 GMT
McCarthy deserves all the abuse he gets. No he doesn't. He should be relieved of his duties, but what purpose does personal abuse achieve? |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 6, 2017 10:09:16 GMT
If JM is dismissed, which I feel is necessary, then a cup run will take on enormous significance.
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Post by blue4life on Sept 6, 2017 10:09:47 GMT
McCarthy deserves all the abuse he gets. No he doesn't. He should be relieved of his duties, but what purpose does personal abuse achieve? Course he does, goes round blaming everyone else but not himself, deserves everything he gets. |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 6, 2017 10:11:40 GMT
No he doesn't. He should be relieved of his duties, but what purpose does personal abuse achieve? Course he does, goes round blaming everyone else but not himself, deserves everything he gets. Ok, but we obviously have different standards of decency. I just want him gone. |
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Post by blue4life on Sept 6, 2017 10:22:49 GMT
Course he does, goes round blaming everyone else but not himself, deserves everything he gets. Ok, but we obviously have different standards of decency. I just want him gone. So do I. He probably wouldn't get abuse if he just come out and said it's not good enough instead of blaming everyone else. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 6, 2017 10:30:13 GMT
If JM is dismissed, which I feel is necessary, then a cup run will take on enormous significance. Can't see us getting past Altrincham. |
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Post by southernblue on Sept 6, 2017 19:07:43 GMT
If JM is dismissed, which I feel is necessary, then a cup run will take on enormous significance. k We could really do with one this season. Would make a nice change to progress beyond the first round of the FA Trophy. |
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Post by agl on Sept 6, 2017 20:15:05 GMT
I thought Rowe Turner had a good game tonight, I thohhht he was quick, powerful and put a shift in. He then made the awful mistake for the second goal but other than that I was impressed, I think he'll end up being a decent player for us The mistake was a shocker but other than that he was our best player. He's the one who looks fit for a start. Anyone spot or hear the crettin behind the goal going off on one about LRT after he made the mistake? Embarrassing. |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 6, 2017 20:56:20 GMT
It was a poor error but I thought he was one of the very few positives that you could take out of an awful performance on the whole last night.
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Post by southernblue on Sept 7, 2017 10:45:14 GMT
I thought Rowe Turner had a good game tonight, I thohhht he was quick, powerful and put a shift in. He then made the awful mistake for the second goal but other than that I was impressed, I think he'll end up being a decent player for us The mistake was a shocker but other than that he was our best player. He's the one who looks fit for a start. Anyone spot or hear the crettin behind the goal going off on one about LRT after he made the mistake? Embarrassing. On Torquay's forum someone said he kept getting out of position as usual after our match there. |
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 8, 2017 6:31:58 GMT
Match highlights:
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