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Post by devadiva on Apr 9, 2018 14:24:30 GMT
Out of those mentioned Carl Macauley probably fits the bill best. Achieved wonders over a number of years at Witton and Vauxhalls beforehand. Morrison has had loads of money at Nomads. Heath isn't local to us Sharps has no experience and isn't local to us Sharps may not have been a manager but he was certainly responsible for tightening up a leaky Chester defence in 2016/17. That’s not a bad idea to build a side who wish to consolidate its league position and stabilise a club in turmoil. That run undefeated under sharps shows his high you can get with a tight defence (7th) and Wrexham did it this year. Build from the back and then the central spine is a cliche but it’s the way to go in my view. Doing that will help us stabilise in CN anyway. Retaining Astles and Jones would be a good start and I think we could do a lot worse than trying sharps as manager.
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Post by sqzl on Apr 9, 2018 14:41:55 GMT
Sharps may not have been a manager but he was certainly responsible for tightening up a leaky Chester defence in 2016/17. That’s not a bad idea to build a side who wish to consolidate its league position and stabilise a club in turmoil. That run undefeated under sharps shows his high you can get with a tight defence (7th) and Wrexham did it this year. Build from the back and then the central spine is a cliche but it’s the way to go in my view. Doing that will help us stabilise in CN anyway. Retaining Astles and Jones would be a good start and I think we could do a lot worse than trying sharps as manager. Personally wouldn't be 'trying' anybody. I think Sharps wage now will be better than Bignots was for us. Unless he gets sacked by Walsall and Keates brings his own men in. I would be looking at Heath personally if we have the budget for it, two promotions with different clubs on a tight budget speaks for itself and i believe whoever we choose we literally can't afford to sack. So looking at a rookie manager may prove a very costly decision if things didn't work out. We don't really know what happened when Sharps was with us, was it a confidence thing in the squad that coincided with the unbeaten streak or was it purely Sharps being superman? I reserve judgement, but he's not pulled up many tree's at a hugely disappointing Walsall side this season, nor has their defence been solid. Experience of the league for me, but preferably not at the end of his managerial years looking for a bit of a pay day (Money/Moore)
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 9, 2018 14:53:37 GMT
Sqzl I have stood next to heath and listened to what he has said on the touch lines. Not particularly impressed I have to say. I get were your coming from proven success at north level. Yes Walsall haven’t pulled up any trees this season but with their budget as it is are around and about as expected this season.
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Post by sqzl on Apr 9, 2018 14:59:39 GMT
Sqzl I have stood next to heath and listened to what he has said on the touch lines. Not particularly impressed I have to say. I get were your coming from proven success at north level. Yes Walsall haven’t pulled up any trees this season but with their budget as it is are around and about as expected this season. It's just the overall morale around the club if we appoint a man with two promotions from the divison previously that will help though for me. He has no affiliation or links to Chester in the past, it's nice and fresh, just what we could do with, new faces about the place in senior positions. I'd welcome the change, providing it didn't cost us too much, he's got the recent experience we crave and would surely mean knowledge of the players in the division and the way teams like to play? It's a tough call though SWLP, i'm glad i'm not the one making the next managerial appointment that will make or break us. On the plus side, we may get Solihull down with us next season for a local one?
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Post by RonD on Apr 9, 2018 15:09:03 GMT
Any chance the two new manager threads can be merged? Cheers.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 9, 2018 15:21:05 GMT
Sqzl I have stood next to heath and listened to what he has said on the touch lines. Not particularly impressed I have to say. I get were your coming from proven success at north level. Yes Walsall haven’t pulled up any trees this season but with their budget as it is are around and about as expected this season. It's just the overall morale around the club if we appoint a man with two promotions from the divison previously that will help though for me. He has no affiliation or links to Chester in the past, it's nice and fresh, just what we could do with, new faces about the place in senior positions. I'd welcome the change, providing it didn't cost us too much, he's got the recent experience we crave and would surely mean knowledge of the players in the division and the way teams like to play? It's a tough call though SWLP, i'm glad i'm not the one making the next managerial appointment that will make or break us. On the plus side, we may get Solihull down with us next season for a local one? I wouldn’t be adverse to heath at all. As you say may lift the awful atmosphere around the place and fresh faces etc with no previous connections. Regarding Solihull I think they will be ok. They were cast adrift but Yates I had done a remarkable job with them. I’m hearing as well that there is to be a bit of money available for them next season as well.
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Post by Matt on Apr 9, 2018 15:25:15 GMT
Any chance the two new manager threads can be merged? Cheers. Good idea, done.
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Post by mpf on Apr 9, 2018 15:35:10 GMT
Sharps is from the Warrington area according to wilki
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Post by norwegianblue on Apr 9, 2018 15:39:50 GMT
I haven’t seen Tom Shaw’s name mentioned . . . .
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 9, 2018 15:52:56 GMT
Sharps is from the Warrington area according to wilki I am lead to believe that he lives in Baschurch which is between Shrewsbury and Oswestry. So location wise it wouldn’t be an issue
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Post by Matt on Apr 9, 2018 15:59:21 GMT
I think realistically Sharps wouldn't come back but if somehow he would I think he'd be a good addition. It's no fluke he was here when we had that successive clean sheets record and it's a bit of a coincidence that it all fell apart when he left.
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Post by norwegianblue on Apr 9, 2018 16:18:47 GMT
I think realistically Sharps wouldn't come back but if somehow he would I think he'd be a good addition. It's no fluke he was here when we had that successive clean sheets record and it's a bit of a coincidence that it all fell apart when he left. And don’t be surprised if James Jones moves to Walsall.
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Post by Matt on Apr 9, 2018 16:29:33 GMT
I think realistically Sharps wouldn't come back but if somehow he would I think he'd be a good addition. It's no fluke he was here when we had that successive clean sheets record and it's a bit of a coincidence that it all fell apart when he left. And don’t be surprised if James Jones moves to Walsall. As long as there's a 20% in there that's ok. He'll develop better elsewhere.
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Post by Believe on Apr 9, 2018 17:04:21 GMT
What about Billy Heath? Took Halifax up? Or is he too old school? Views Took Halifax and NFU up on not much budget at all he's the answer we need for this level Not strictly true, I think our budget was in the top 3 or 4 that season, and Gary Neville claimed, at the end of the season, that we'd outbid Salford for 3 or 4 players in the previous 18 months. Nevertheless, everyone knows that money never guarantees success. His record with North Ferriby is absolutely outstanding, not just the promotions but winning at Wembley from 2-0 down against Wrexham. He's got balls of steel and a back as broad as the Humber. At Stalybridge, where 3 sides of the ground had spent the second half chanting "Heath Out", while Billy conducted them, and many had actually cheered their last minute winner, he told his players "take no notice of that lot, we ARE going up this year". True, the "football" ain't pretty, but if you want get out of that league fast, grit your teeth and give Billy a call.
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Post by sqzl on Apr 9, 2018 17:40:03 GMT
Sharps is from the Warrington area according to wilki I am lead to believe that he lives in Baschurch which is between Shrewsbury and Oswestry. So location wise it wouldn’t be an issue Used to live near my mums in Parkgate in Wirral unless he's moved with the Walsall job.
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Post by superman on Apr 9, 2018 18:18:03 GMT
Has lived in Baschurch for several years, moved there when he signed for Shrewsbury and has been his home base ever since including his 2nd spell at Rotherham, Burton Albion, Telford, Chester and Walsall..
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Post by Jack on Apr 9, 2018 18:21:27 GMT
Always been impressed with Carl Macauley. Local, inexpensive and knows these levels really well. It’s a big bonus that his sides were thought to play good football too.
Heath’s style of play concerns me. I know it’s about winning, but we need to draw back lost fans and he’s renowned for being hoofball and 0-0s through and through.
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Post by billyw on Apr 9, 2018 18:34:05 GMT
Always been impressed with Carl Macauley. Local, inexpensive and knows these levels really well. It’s a big bonus that his sides were thought to play good football too. Heath’s style of play concerns me. I know it’s about winning, but we need to draw back lost fans and he’s renowned for being hoofball and 0-0s through and through. Wasn't Macauley assistant manager during Burr's time here.
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Post by Al on Apr 9, 2018 18:38:28 GMT
Always been impressed with Carl Macauley. Local, inexpensive and knows these levels really well. It’s a big bonus that his sides were thought to play good football too. Heath’s style of play concerns me. I know it’s about winning, but we need to draw back lost fans and he’s renowned for being hoofball and 0-0s through and through. Wasn't Macauley assistant manager during Burr's time here. For a spell yes after Vauxhall went under then he brought in the boring one when Carl moved on. Cracking manager at this and the level below. Performed a minor miracle with Vauxhall for a number of seasons keeping them up against all the odds and has done a fine job taking little Witton to the verge of the play offs in the league below. I'd still want Parky though
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Post by Harry Lime on Apr 9, 2018 18:44:30 GMT
Heath's success has been gained with Yorkshire based clubs. That could be an issue for recruitment. We'll have a small budget and will likely need to sign locally based players. Can't see many wanting to travel on the wages we'll be offering. Also want to avoid travel expenses for training too.
Can see the logic in McCauley. He's done really well at Vauxhall Motors and ok at Witton too.
If Sharps is available, you'd need to interview him.
Andy Holden must be the best coach we could get. As a manager he's unproven. Not much experience of English Non League footie either. Didn't I read something about him preferring being a coach? Pity we couldn't bring him in as a coach!
Most of those on the Chronicle list wouldn't be interested now surely.
I'd interview Carden too, and maybe Craig Harrison. They should both have a good recent knowledge of local players, and play decent football.
I'd assume Phil Parkinson is now out of the running. Pity. He would have been my choice.
I'd avoid Morrison and Brabin. Don't like them as individuals. Not right for a family friendly club. After saying that I believe the manager should be responsible for the first team. Not appointed because of their community side skills. We've made that mistake before.
Incidentally, it was SO that appointed JMc and MM. So it maybe a good job he's left the board before the interview process begins.
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Post by dragonslayer on Apr 9, 2018 18:50:14 GMT
Gary Brabin with George Horan as his assistant.
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Post by norwegianblue on Apr 9, 2018 18:55:32 GMT
And don’t be surprised if James Jones moves to Walsall. As long as there's a 20% in there that's ok. He'll develop better elsewhere. It would explain Sharps' attendance at the Torquay game.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Apr 9, 2018 19:15:46 GMT
Is Shaun Reid begging the managers job again?
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Post by mpf on Apr 9, 2018 19:18:18 GMT
Sharps was watching the new Torquay lad who they got on loan from Cardiff
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 9, 2018 19:49:47 GMT
For me out of that lot, Sharps, Heath, Morrison, Sharps was in the stand behind us against Torquay - we did wonder... He was scouting a Torquay player:- Rhys Healey.
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Post by norwegianblue on Apr 9, 2018 19:56:55 GMT
Sharps was in the stand behind us against Torquay - we did wonder... He was scouting a Torquay player:- Rhys Healey. Maybe so, but Jones and Crawford will be on his radar.
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Post by Little Blue Boy on Apr 9, 2018 20:28:56 GMT
Surely we must be looking at Andy Morrell? From the area, has a fantastic record (combined 48% win ratio at Wrexham and Tamworth) and has proven he can work on a budget at Tamworth. Wheels have fell off for them since they sacked him as well, proving the grass isn't always greener. He gets the community side as well and by all accounts did some fantastic work behind the scenes at Tamworth.
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Post by uptheseals on Apr 9, 2018 20:43:02 GMT
Surely we must be looking at Andy Morrell? From the area, has a fantastic record (combined 48% win ratio at Wrexham and Tamworth) and has proven he can work on a budget at Tamworth. Wheels have fell off for them since they sacked him as well, proving the grass isn't always greener. He gets the community side as well and by all accounts did some fantastic work behind the scenes at Tamworth. Hahahahahahaha
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Post by Jack on Apr 9, 2018 20:47:37 GMT
He was scouting a Torquay player:- Rhys Healey. Maybe so, but Jones and Crawford will be on his radar. I'm not so sure myself. If Jones and Crawford don't stay with us - and who can blame them? - I think they may get a move to another conference side, but I'd be really surprised if they made the jump into league football. They've both got potential, Crawford in particular, but they need a full season under their belt somewhere to see how they develop from here. Wouldn't be shocked to see them both stay with us next season, I certainly hope so.
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Post by jb on Apr 9, 2018 21:48:21 GMT
A lot of these names are much more refreshing to hear than Marcus Bignot. He’s the man who made Mad Macca’s win/loss ratio seem decent.
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