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Post by Imperial on Apr 9, 2018 21:56:02 GMT
Maybe so, but Jones and Crawford will be on his radar. I'm not so sure myself. If Jones and Crawford don't stay with us - and who can blame them? - I think they may get a move to another conference side, but I'd be really surprised if they made the jump into league football. They've both got potential, Crawford in particular, but they need a full season under their belt somewhere to see how they develop from here. Wouldn't be shocked to see them both stay with us next season, I certainly hope so. I got told on Saturday that Crawford had a trial at WBA recently & impressed.
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Post by marner93 on Apr 9, 2018 22:03:00 GMT
I got told that Gary Roberts was on trial...
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 9, 2018 22:28:30 GMT
I got told Lucas Dawson was on trial...
for impersonating a footballer.
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Post by uptheseals on Apr 9, 2018 23:14:31 GMT
I got told that Gary Roberts was on trial... You been told incorrect
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Post by Deva Chanter on Apr 9, 2018 23:41:56 GMT
Full odds from Bet Victor: Andy Holden - 4/1 Paul Carden - 6/1 Phil Parkinson - 8/1 Craig Harrison - 10/1 Neil Redfearn - 10/1 Gary Brabin - 12/1 Shaun Reid - 12/1 Lee Clark - 12/1 Neil McDonald - 12/1 Frank Sinclair - 12/1 Russell Slade - 12/1 Carl Macauley - 12/1 Mark Bower - 12/1 Chris Lucketti - 14/1 Michael Brown - 14/1 Gary Mills - 16/1 Andy Scott - 16/1 Dave Penny 16/1 Gary Caldwell - 16/1 Ronnie Moore - 16/1 Matt Jansen - 20/1 Paul Cox - 20/1 Dean Saunders - 20/1 Peter Beadle - 25/1 Take your pick!
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Post by uptheseals on Apr 10, 2018 0:43:17 GMT
Full odds from Bet Victor: Andy Holden - 4/1 Paul Carden - 6/1 Phil Parkinson - 8/1 Craig Harrison - 10/1 Neil Redfearn - 10/1 Gary Brabin - 12/1 Shaun Reid - 12/1 Lee Clark - 12/1 Neil McDonald - 12/1 Frank Sinclair - 12/1 Russell Slade - 12/1 Carl Macauley - 12/1 Mark Bower - 12/1 Chris Lucketti - 14/1 Michael Brown - 14/1 Gary Mills - 16/1 Andy Scott - 16/1 Dave Penny 16/1 Gary Caldwell - 16/1 Ronnie Moore - 16/1 Matt Jansen - 20/1 Paul Cox - 20/1 Dean Saunders - 20/1 Peter Beadle - 25/1 Take your pick! Lee Clark Or Redfearn
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Post by norwegianblue on Apr 10, 2018 2:59:14 GMT
Full odds from Bet Victor: Andy Holden - 4/1 Paul Carden - 6/1 Phil Parkinson - 8/1 Craig Harrison - 10/1 Neil Redfearn - 10/1 Gary Brabin - 12/1 Shaun Reid - 12/1 Lee Clark - 12/1 Neil McDonald - 12/1 Frank Sinclair - 12/1 Russell Slade - 12/1 Carl Macauley - 12/1 Mark Bower - 12/1 Chris Lucketti - 14/1 Michael Brown - 14/1 Gary Mills - 16/1 Andy Scott - 16/1 Dave Penny 16/1 Gary Caldwell - 16/1 Ronnie Moore - 16/1 Matt Jansen - 20/1 Paul Cox - 20/1 Dean Saunders - 20/1 Peter Beadle - 25/1 Take your pick! After Tom Shaw had a brief spell in charge before Bignot. It was suspected that he made the move to Telford with a view to moving into the hot seat there. Don’t be surprised if he’s in the frame for the Chester job. Also, it would not surprise me if Bignot doesn’t reapply and get reappointed. Either would be a cheaper option.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 10, 2018 5:05:11 GMT
Telford?
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Post by rcb on Apr 10, 2018 7:52:40 GMT
Full odds from Bet Victor: Andy Holden - 4/1 Paul Carden - 6/1 Phil Parkinson - 8/1 Craig Harrison - 10/1 Neil Redfearn - 10/1 Gary Brabin - 12/1 Shaun Reid - 12/1 Lee Clark - 12/1 Neil McDonald - 12/1 Frank Sinclair - 12/1 Russell Slade - 12/1 Carl Macauley - 12/1 Mark Bower - 12/1 Chris Lucketti - 14/1 Michael Brown - 14/1 Gary Mills - 16/1 Andy Scott - 16/1 Dave Penny 16/1 Gary Caldwell - 16/1 Ronnie Moore - 16/1 Matt Jansen - 20/1 Paul Cox - 20/1 Dean Saunders - 20/1 Peter Beadle - 25/1 Take your pick! After Tom Shaw had a brief spell in charge before Bignot. It was suspected that he made the move to Telford with a view to moving into the hot seat there. Don’t be surprised if he’s in the frame for the Chester job. Also, it would not surprise me if Bignot doesn’t reapply and get reappointed. Either would be a cheaper option.
An official list of potential candidates published by a leading bookmaker, and here we go again! A preposterous claim that either Shaw or Bignot would be a cheaper option. How the hell do you think you know that?
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Post by chesterken on Apr 10, 2018 8:36:05 GMT
After Tom Shaw had a brief spell in charge before Bignot. It was suspected that he made the move to Telford with a view to moving into the hot seat there. Don’t be surprised if he’s in the frame for the Chester job. Also, it would not surprise me if Bignot doesn’t reapply and get reappointed. Either would be a cheaper option.
An official list of potential candidates published by a leading bookmaker, and here we go again! A preposterous claim that either Shaw or Bignot would be a cheaper option. How the hell do you think you know that? Why don’t we wait to see who applies once advertised then at leased you would be able to argue about facts not fiction, it just seems that every thread on here ends up with infighting with the usual suspects involved.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 9:08:46 GMT
An official list of potential candidates published by a leading bookmaker, and here we go again! A preposterous claim that either Shaw or Bignot would be a cheaper option. How the hell do you think you know that? Why don’t we wait to see who applies once advertised then at leased you would be able to argue about facts not fiction, it just seems that every thread on here ends up with infighting with the usual suspects involved. Correct. However, looking at that list there's no runaway favourite so I suppose many people could consider themselves in with a chance. I think we need to realise, and pretty quickly, that we're not the big draw some of us think we are. Indeed, maybe punching above our weight financially may have been a factor in our current crisis. OK, last time didn't we have around 40 applicants? Since then our circumstances have changed somewhat. We're broke We're now two promotions from the Football League The powers that be are all over the place in terms of direction and strategy Fans are haemorraging away The playing staff are arguably not fit for purpose Etc Etc So, the Lee Clark's of this world are not going to come near us. Indeed, many managers might be thinking twice about walking into such a toxic environment. Don't forget, we won't be the only club looking for a new manager over the next few weeks.I think a serious dose of realism is required. My personal preference is for a Macauley-type of guy but, at this stage, until we KNOW the true extent of our situation, it's all a bit academic
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Post by Matt on Apr 10, 2018 9:22:45 GMT
Full odds from Bet Victor: Andy Holden - 4/1 Paul Carden - 6/1 Phil Parkinson - 8/1 Craig Harrison - 10/1 Neil Redfearn - 10/1 Gary Brabin - 12/1 Shaun Reid - 12/1 Lee Clark - 12/1 Neil McDonald - 12/1 Frank Sinclair - 12/1 Russell Slade - 12/1 Carl Macauley - 12/1 Mark Bower - 12/1 Chris Lucketti - 14/1 Michael Brown - 14/1 Gary Mills - 16/1 Andy Scott - 16/1 Dave Penny 16/1 Gary Caldwell - 16/1 Ronnie Moore - 16/1 Matt Jansen - 20/1 Paul Cox - 20/1 Dean Saunders - 20/1 Peter Beadle - 25/1 Take your pick! Lee Clark Or Redfearn Lee Clark has gone down the pecking order. I thought he was doing well in the Football League! Saying that those candidates are just there by default. We couldn't afford 95% of them.
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Post by norwegianblue on Apr 10, 2018 9:50:23 GMT
An official list of potential candidates published by a leading bookmaker, and here we go again! A preposterous claim that either Shaw or Bignot would be a cheaper option. How the hell do you think you know that? Why don’t we wait to see who applies once advertised then at leased you would be able to argue about facts not fiction, it just seems that every thread on here ends up with infighting with the usual suspects involved. First of all, how do you class me as a ‘usual suspect’? I do not get involved in keyboard arguments as can be seen if you research my posts. I am also well within my rights to express an opinion on this subject just like the rest. It is a forum where topics are debated. From what I see rcb, with over 680 posts and God status, you truly are one of the master debaters. I did not say that Shaw and Bignot were my preferred choices. They just happen to be the last two people that have been in charge of the first team. Tom Shaw was a very popular person while at the Deva and was interested in coaching and a managerial position as his injury problems show. Regarding Marcus Bignot, he is perfectly entitled to apply for the vacant position and knows the clubs situation well. This applies to Neil Young who appears to have had his name mentioned recently regarding the future vacant position. As the club is low on funds, I do not see Chester FC offering the new manager whoever it may be, a high and competitive salary. Therefore, a cheaper option. Until the application deadline passes, anyone is free to apply for the position. I merely mentioned two POSSIBLE applicants that were not listed.
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Post by superman on Apr 10, 2018 10:15:03 GMT
Have we actually advertised for a manager yet? Perhaps the board a going to head hunt the next person, it worked well with Young, arguably reasonably well for a while with Burr who I don't think was interviewed as part of the selection process, and less well with both Bignot and McCarthy who both went through the full recruitment process. Perhaps our FWG have already identified and approached the next man or woman as they seem to have rejected the candidature of both Bignot and Young either individually or as a team early on.
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Post by rcb on Apr 10, 2018 11:02:36 GMT
Why don’t we wait to see who applies once advertised then at leased you would be able to argue about facts not fiction, it just seems that every thread on here ends up with infighting with the usual suspects involved. First of all, how do you class me as a ‘usual suspect’? I do not get involved in keyboard arguments as can be seen if you research my posts. I am also well within my rights to express an opinion on this subject just like the rest. It is a forum where topics are debated. From what I see rcb, with over 680 posts and God status, you truly are one of the master debaters. I did not say that Shaw and Bignot were my preferred choices. They just happen to be the last two people that have been in charge of the first team. Tom Shaw was a very popular person while at the Deva and was interested in coaching and a managerial position as his injury problems show. Regarding Marcus Bignot, he is perfectly entitled to apply for the vacant position and knows the clubs situation well. This applies to Neil Young who appears to have had his name mentioned recently regarding the future vacant position. As the club is low on funds, I do not see Chester FC offering the new manager whoever it may be, a high and competitive salary. Therefore, a cheaper option. Until the application deadline passes, anyone is free to apply for the position. I merely mentioned two POSSIBLE applicants that were not listed. I have total respect for your opinions Norwegianbue, and I agree with your inclusion of Shaw and Bignot. My comment was specifically in regard to your claim that they would be cheaper, which is surely a wild and speculative guess at best. Bookmakers had Chester down as one of the favourites for relegation at the start of the season so they seem to know what they are talking about. I am very interested in seeing how things pan out. Great point Superman. The successful Neil Young was headhunted, whilst the failed McCarthy and Bignot were the subject of the interview process. It is well known in business that many interview processes are statistically less reliable than drawing names from a hat. I doubt the current board are capable of drawing up a shortlist, let alone conducting a positive interview process. Whoever selected Neil Young, and however the process took place, it was successful. The history of Chester FC, in current and former guises, gives the club access to many knowledgeable and respected ex professionals, players and managers, who I’m sure would be prepared to give their support and advice free of charge, to aid the recruitment of the next manager. It does need to happen very soon, to provide stability and confidence for next season.
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Post by lookingin on Apr 10, 2018 11:22:00 GMT
First of all, how do you class me as a ‘usual suspect’? I do not get involved in keyboard arguments as can be seen if you research my posts. I am also well within my rights to express an opinion on this subject just like the rest. It is a forum where topics are debated. From what I see rcb, with over 680 posts and God status, you truly are one of the master debaters. I did not say that Shaw and Bignot were my preferred choices. They just happen to be the last two people that have been in charge of the first team. Tom Shaw was a very popular person while at the Deva and was interested in coaching and a managerial position as his injury problems show. Regarding Marcus Bignot, he is perfectly entitled to apply for the vacant position and knows the clubs situation well. This applies to Neil Young who appears to have had his name mentioned recently regarding the future vacant position. As the club is low on funds, I do not see Chester FC offering the new manager whoever it may be, a high and competitive salary. Therefore, a cheaper option. Until the application deadline passes, anyone is free to apply for the position. I merely mentioned two POSSIBLE applicants that were not listed. I have total respect for your opinions Norwegianbue, and I agree with your inclusion of Shaw and Bignot. My comment was specifically in regard to your claim that they would be cheaper, which is surely a wild and speculative guess at best. Bookmakers had Chester down as one of the favourites for relegation at the start of the season so they seem to know what they are talking about. I am very interested in seeing how things pan out. Great point Superman. The successful Neil Young was headhunted, whilst the failed McCarthy and Bignot were the subject of the interview process. It is well known in business that many interview processes are statistically less reliable than drawing names from a hat. I doubt the current board are capable of drawing up a shortlist, let alone conducting a positive interview process. Whoever selected Neil Young, and however the process took place, it was successful. The history of Chester FC, in current and former guises, gives the club access to many knowledgeable and respected ex professionals, players and managers, who I’m sure would be prepared to give their support and advice free of charge, to aid the recruitment of the next manager. It does need to happen very soon, to provide stability and confidence for next season. I don't think the process will start till after the season has fully finished and we have a full board again. The two big question for the applicant will be how much are you paying and what is the bugget. I don't think we know the answers to these questions yet.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 10, 2018 11:41:33 GMT
Have we actually advertised for a manager yet? Perhaps the board a going to head hunt the next person, it worked well with Young, arguably reasonably well for a while with Burr who I don't think was interviewed as part of the selection process, and less well with both Bignot and McCarthy who both went through the full recruitment process. Perhaps our FWG have already identified and approached the next man or woman as they seem to have rejected the candidature of both Bignot and Young either individually or as a team early on. Spot on - a headhunt has to be the way now.
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Post by chesterken on Apr 10, 2018 11:51:52 GMT
Why don’t we wait to see who applies once advertised then at leased you would be able to argue about facts not fiction, it just seems that every thread on here ends up with infighting with the usual suspects involved. First of all, how do you class me as a ‘usual suspect’? I do not get involved in keyboard arguments as can be seen if you research my posts. I am also well within my rights to express an opinion on this subject just like the rest. It is a forum where topics are debated. From what I see rcb, with over 680 posts and God status, you truly are one of the master debaters. I did not say that Shaw and Bignot were my preferred choices. They just happen to be the last two people that have been in charge of the first team. Tom Shaw was a very popular person while at the Deva and was interested in coaching and a managerial position as his injury problems show. Regarding Marcus Bignot, he is perfectly entitled to apply for the vacant position and knows the clubs situation well. This applies to Neil Young who appears to have had his name mentioned recently regarding the future vacant position. As the club is low on funds, I do not see Chester FC offering the new manager whoever it may be, a high and competitive salary. Therefore, a cheaper option. Until the application deadline passes, anyone is free to apply for the position. I merely mentioned two POSSIBLE applicants that were not listed. Sorry Nb I wasn’t alluding to you just the ones that seem to start a row every time our soon to be released managers name is mentioned .
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Post by iandychesterfc on Apr 10, 2018 12:27:26 GMT
Full odds from Bet Victor: Andy Holden - 4/1 Paul Carden - 6/1 Phil Parkinson - 8/1 Craig Harrison - 10/1 Neil Redfearn - 10/1 Gary Brabin - 12/1 Shaun Reid - 12/1 Lee Clark - 12/1 Neil McDonald - 12/1 Frank Sinclair - 12/1 Russell Slade - 12/1 Carl Macauley - 12/1Mark Bower - 12/1 Chris Lucketti - 14/1 Michael Brown - 14/1 Gary Mills - 16/1 Andy Scott - 16/1 Dave Penny 16/1 Gary Caldwell - 16/1 Ronnie Moore - 16/1 Matt Jansen - 20/1 Paul Cox - 20/1 Dean Saunders - 20/1 Peter Beadle - 25/1 Take your pick! IMO Outside the Box, Caldwell and Barrow? Not for me but plausible.
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 10, 2018 12:40:03 GMT
Full odds from Bet Victor: Andy Holden - 4/1 Paul Carden - 6/1 Phil Parkinson - 8/1 Craig Harrison - 10/1 Neil Redfearn - 10/1 Gary Brabin - 12/1 Shaun Reid - 12/1 Lee Clark - 12/1 Neil McDonald - 12/1 Frank Sinclair - 12/1 Russell Slade - 12/1 Carl Macauley - 12/1Mark Bower - 12/1 Chris Lucketti - 14/1 Michael Brown - 14/1 Gary Mills - 16/1 Andy Scott - 16/1 Dave Penny 16/1 Gary Caldwell - 16/1 Ronnie Moore - 16/1 Matt Jansen - 20/1 Paul Cox - 20/1 Dean Saunders - 20/1 Peter Beadle - 25/1 Take your pick! IMO Outside the Box, Caldwell and Barrow? Not for me but plausible. Agree completely with your three choices. Issue being they’re all in work and whether we can afford any compo.
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Post by Neil Fishers Biggest Fan on Apr 10, 2018 12:48:42 GMT
I have said before Andy Holden is only interested in an assistants role, that’s fact.
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Post by sqzl on Apr 10, 2018 12:53:12 GMT
IMO Outside the Box, Caldwell and Barrow? Not for me but plausible. Agree completely with your three choices. Issue being they’re all in work and whether we can afford any compo. Plus the main issue being we haven't robbed a bank in the last week that i know of? So wages would be about half the playing budget!
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Post by alancfc on Apr 10, 2018 12:59:08 GMT
Honestly when you look at those lists, why the fuck did we get rid of Bignot?! No-one on that list inspires any confidence that they'll be able to put together a seriously competitive team in the short term and build a club over the long term.
Hornby RHJ Jones Hobson Gough
Waters Crawford Roberts Vose
Archer Zanzala
All these players we're brought in or given a proper opportunity by Bignot, on what must have been no more than £40K of additional expense to the budget. Its a side that cannot compete in the National League but would have been competitive in the NLN. And once again that was on the square root of fuck all. Do any of the managers named above have that level of ability in the market, let alone a NLN promotion on their Record?
I despair, we had two NLN promotion winning managers in the building two weeks ago, and now we're look at Craig Harrison at 10/1.
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Post by rcb on Apr 10, 2018 13:29:07 GMT
Alex Ferguson had no experience in English football, Pep Guardiola had no experience in English football, so that means they were stupid appointments does it? Get real for God’s sake. Chester need someone with local player knowledge, and an ability to call in favours. None of that is going to happen with a man from the midlands, or anywhere else from beyond the locality. We can’t afford travelling expenses. Local, knowledgeable manager, with local part-time players. Simple as that. At least half a dozen on that list are streets ahead of Bignot in such regard.
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Post by chesterken on Apr 10, 2018 13:40:14 GMT
Alex Ferguson had no experience in English football, Pep Guardiola had no experience in English football, so that means they were stupid appointments does it? Get real for God’s sake. Chester need someone with local player knowledge, and an ability to call in favours. None of that is going to happen with a man from the midlands, or anywhere else from beyond the locality. We can’t afford travelling expenses. Local, knowledgeable manager, with local part-time players. Simple as that. At least half a dozen on that list are streets ahead of Bignot in such regard. There you go Norwegianblue someone mentions that name again and off he goes up like a bottle of pop😀.
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Post by rcb on Apr 10, 2018 13:47:52 GMT
Alex Ferguson had no experience in English football, Pep Guardiola had no experience in English football, so that means they were stupid appointments does it? Get real for God’s sake. Chester need someone with local player knowledge, and an ability to call in favours. None of that is going to happen with a man from the midlands, or anywhere else from beyond the locality. We can’t afford travelling expenses. Local, knowledgeable manager, with local part-time players. Simple as that. At least half a dozen on that list are streets ahead of Bignot in such regard. There you go Norwegianblue someone mentions that name again and off he goes up like a bottle of pop😀. What a complete pillock. Are you allowed to use a smartphone in the playground?
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Post by chesterken on Apr 10, 2018 13:58:24 GMT
There you go Norwegianblue someone mentions that name again and off he goes up like a bottle of pop😀. What a complete pillock. Are you allowed to use a smartphone in the playground? Sense of humour bypass.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 14:11:55 GMT
Really like the idea of Neil Redfearn, but concerns in me whether he would come for the money, and he doesn't live locally. Listening to him speak and looking at his track record with young players would make him the ideal kind of manager for me. Maybe should have got the job in September, but I believe he wouldn't guarantee the panel that he would keep the club in the Conference with the squad he was inheriting.
Andy Holden could be a good shout but concerns about his desire to do it. Regarding Phil Parkinson, Altrincham giving us the absolute runaround pre-season told us all we needed to know about McCarthys Superstars, fitter, quicker and more desire in his teams. I could watch them happily over the leaden footed lot we get to observe.
Also hear brilliant things about Ian Sharps from his time here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 14:25:34 GMT
Andy Morrison from the Quay or if poss Ian Sharps
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Post by happyclapper on Apr 10, 2018 14:52:53 GMT
Really like the idea of Neil Redfearn, but concerns in me whether he would come for the money, and he doesn't live locally. Listening to him speak and looking at his track record with young players would make him the ideal kind of manager for me. Maybe should have got the job in September, but I believe he wouldn't guarantee the panel that he would keep the club in the Conference with the squad he was inheriting. Andy Holden could be a good shout but concerns about his desire to do it. Regarding Phil Parkinson, Altrincham giving us the absolute runaround pre-season told us all we needed to know about McCarthys Superstars, fitter, quicker and more desire in his teams. I could watch them happily over the leaden footed lot we get to observe. Also hear brilliant things about Ian Sharps from his time here. Not sure about Redfearn, as you say we need to stay local but he does have a good track record. Holden for me is a no having watched his Flint side which was one of the poorest I've seen for years with a half decent budget behind them for the league they were playing. Parkinson has signed an extra year at Altrincham so we would have to pay compensation? Sharps for me would be good appointment if he was interested but again he's under contract unless he has a release clause in it? and of course if he's interested dropping 2 or 3 divisions
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