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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 15, 2018 19:48:36 GMT
I think the board are making another mistake again here. Why advertise the role with such a short space of time for CV’s to be handed in? Also, why make the deadline this early as at the end of the season plenty of clubs will sack managers?
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Post by sumo on Apr 15, 2018 19:54:50 GMT
people have known the Chester job has been up for grabs for weeks, agents talk, managers talk, as for a cv most people have a cv ready and waiting, its so easy to send one in. So lets see how we get on.
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Post by everhopeful on Apr 15, 2018 19:55:06 GMT
I think the board are making another mistake again here. Why advertise the role with such a short space of time for CV’s to be handed in? Also, why make the deadline this early as at the end of the season plenty of clubs will sack managers? Probably cos it's already done and dusted and they're just going through the motions for show. Sadly.
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Post by rcb on Apr 15, 2018 20:06:10 GMT
I think the board are making another mistake again here. Why advertise the role with such a short space of time for CV’s to be handed in? Also, why make the deadline this early as at the end of the season plenty of clubs will sack managers? Careful Rio, you’ll have some accusations of negativity coming your way! Seriously, I see your viewpoint, and you may be right. My view is that several good candidates will have been preparing their applications since the announcement that MB wasn’t being retained, so the short timeline isn’t an issue. The next two weeks gives the club a chance to get a jump start on others in terms of preparation for next season. All this, of course, subject to not having a headhunted candidate already sounded out. We don’t have the finances to jump the queue, so getting in before the queue forms seems a good strategy to me. I just hope that the best candidate is chosen and not discounted if they have a preference for part-time.
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Post by lookingin on Apr 15, 2018 20:06:49 GMT
I think the board are making another mistake again here. Why advertise the role with such a short space of time for CV’s to be handed in? Also, why make the deadline this early as at the end of the season plenty of clubs will sack managers? The build up to this just seems to planned? For them not to know who we are having?
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 15, 2018 20:18:09 GMT
One may believe that Bignot was sacked early as they have had permission to speak to the man they want, and they've just given it a few days to see if anyone else worthy of an interview applies.
Parkinson Macauley Carden
In that order, if I was to go on a head hunt.
After that, I'm not sure there is anyone else out there worth a head hunt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 20:32:37 GMT
Parkinson is contracted for another season at Alty ??
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 15, 2018 20:34:38 GMT
Parkinson is contracted for another season at Alty ?? Worth a try. Don't ask don't get and all that.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 15, 2018 23:07:49 GMT
people have known the Chester job has been up for grabs for weeks, agents talk, managers talk, as for a cv most people have a cv ready and waiting, its so easy to send one in. So lets see how we get on. Also the short deadline and plans to interview the following week implies that the interviews are just formalities and that the board know who they want and that person has more than likely said they would apply. Of course these are assumptions I am making. For the record, if that is the case then I don't have a problem with it. In fact, I prefer it! We have to get this appointment right and if it means a headhunt then so be it. Our most successful manager was headhunted after all.
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Post by billyw on Apr 16, 2018 6:54:24 GMT
One may believe that Bignot was sacked early as they have had permission to speak to the man they want, and they've just given it a few days to see if anyone else worthy of an interview applies. Parkinson Macauley Carden In that order, if I was to go on a head hunt. After that, I'm not sure there is anyone else out there worth a head hunt. It could explain Sharpes' presence at the last couple of games - probably completely wide of the mark though.
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Post by Matt on Apr 16, 2018 9:17:06 GMT
Just seen the details and objectives for the new manager/ head coach on Twitter. One of which is ensuring the player pathway is met? What is our player pathway? Who is the club scout? What is our recruitment policy? OBJECTIVES Deliver a competitive First Team Squad containing Players who have a desire to progress. Further develop the Club Football ethos, embrace the Fan owned model and Community Trust. Ensure the Player Pathway is met. Keep expenditure within the allocated limit of the Football Playing Budget. Adhere to Club policies and standards at all times inclusive of the Code of Conduct.
Develop a strong working relationship with the Club Scout for identifying player talent and recruitment. Comply with the Club recruitment policy that relates to the principle of local recruitment of Players. In other words don't tell the truth to the media.
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Post by jb on Apr 16, 2018 9:48:00 GMT
Sod it let's have a Calvin Hughes and Chris Piercy managerial combo. Chris has worked under some of the very best including Burr and McCarthy so knows what it takes to be a superb manager.
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Post by superman on Apr 16, 2018 10:17:54 GMT
As we all have our concerns and opinions about the process and candidates I doubt that in reality any of us would be better at selecting the next manager than whoever is on the panel. I wish them good luck, as it will to a large extent depend on luck. Even the biggest clubs with loads of so called expertise at recruiting football managers get it wrong more often than right. Likewise with whoever is successful, there is unlikely to be a universally popular appointment. Nearest one we have had was Steve Burr, who although arguably our most successful manager at National level still become a figure of hate. Whoever is successful will need our full support, a lot of patience, and a huge slice of luck. So let's not get on the back of the manager before he even starts work, even if they would not have been our personal choice. I didn't want Gary Roberts at the club, how wrong was I in my judgement, but we all think we know better when we haven't really got a clue at times. Good luck selection board, good luck candidates, prove us all wrong.
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Post by bing on Apr 16, 2018 10:21:13 GMT
As we all have our concerns and opinions about the process and candidates I doubt that in reality any of us would be better at selecting the next manager than whoever is on the panel. I wish them good luck, as it will to a large extent depend on luck. Even the biggest clubs with loads of so called expertise at recruiting football managers get it wrong more often than right. Likewise with whoever is successful, there is unlikely to be a universally popular appointment. Nearest one we have had was Steve Burr, who although arguably our most successful manager at National level still become a figure of hate. Whoever is successful will need our full support, a lot of patience, and a huge slice of luck. So let's not get on the back of the manager before he even starts work, even if they would not have been our personal choice. I didn't want Gary Roberts at the club, how wrong was I in my judgement, but we all think we know better when we haven't really got a clue at times. Good luck selection board, good luck candidates, prove us all wrong. Sensible post. I have to hold my hands up and say that with Jon McCarthy I backed a losing horse. It's not easy and, of course, the benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Post by uptheseals on Apr 16, 2018 11:43:20 GMT
Honestly don't want any manager that's managing lower than the conference north, just seen Runcorn manager wants it and if we go for Him then it shows our ambition to move forward...
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 16, 2018 11:46:08 GMT
Honestly don't want any manager that's managing lower than the conference north, just seen Runcorn manager wants it and if we go for Him then it shows our ambition to move forward... Gotta start somewhere - Herbert actually ticks all of the boxes I reckon, as someone who knows the area and has experience managing in this area. Young, enthusiastic, driven, can work to a strict budget and someone who buys into our youth academy to develop our graduates.
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Post by happyclapper on Apr 16, 2018 11:46:22 GMT
Parkinson is contracted for another season at Alty ?? Worth a try. Don't ask don't get and all that. He signed a new contract for 2018/19 back in March - we'd have to pay compo, which under the current financial constraints is a no no
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Post by rhodri on Apr 16, 2018 11:55:07 GMT
Herbert wouldn't be a bad shout. Reading the interview with him in the Chronicle ( www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chris-herbert-mark-mcgregor-would-14536347), he appears to say the right things (I know this doesn't always mean much, but its a start), working to low budgets. He did raise good points that under his previous time at the club he recommended some important players to the club - Astles has been irreplaceable since he came in, and Alabi's goals probably kept us up last year. Its interesting to see that's worked with Crawford (at Runcorn) Roberts previously, that could be a factor in potentially getting Roberts in as a player/coach next year? As long as the board and fans aren't expecting us to come straight back up, he could be a good option to help build us up. I remember when he was here last that there were rumours going around that he had been brought in to replace Burr if we had been relegated, obviously the reprieve put an end to that.
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Post by Matt on Apr 16, 2018 11:59:46 GMT
Honestly don't want any manager that's managing lower than the conference north, just seen Runcorn manager wants it and if we go for Him then it shows our ambition to move forward... Just noticed the caption underneath the picture of him "Chris Herbert, who has managed Conwy Borough, Cefn Druids and Flint Town United, has joined Chester FC" Hopefully this isn't the illuminati! And how can a "Chester Lad" go onto play 200 games for Wrexham.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 16, 2018 12:02:49 GMT
Honestly don't want any manager that's managing lower than the conference north, just seen Runcorn manager wants it and if we go for Him then it shows our ambition to move forward... Just noticed the caption underneath the picture of him "Chris Herbert, who has managed Conwy Borough, Cefn Druids and Flint Town United, has joined Chester FC" Hopefully this isn't the illuminati! And how can a "Chester Lad" go onto play 200 games for Wrexham. He's from Chester. He played for Wrexham. Does that answer your question?
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Post by Matt on Apr 16, 2018 12:17:15 GMT
Just noticed the caption underneath the picture of him "Chris Herbert, who has managed Conwy Borough, Cefn Druids and Flint Town United, has joined Chester FC" Hopefully this isn't the illuminati! And how can a "Chester Lad" go onto play 200 games for Wrexham. He's from Chester. He played for Wrexham. Does that answer your question? Nasty
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Post by eltonblues on Apr 16, 2018 13:09:16 GMT
Honestly don't want any manager that's managing lower than the conference north, just seen Runcorn manager wants it and if we go for Him then it shows our ambition to move forward... Just noticed the caption underneath the picture of him "Chris Herbert, who has managed Conwy Borough, Cefn Druids and Flint Town United, has joined Chester FC" Hopefully this isn't the illuminati! And how can a "Chester Lad" go onto play 200 games for Wrexham. Its a job!!!
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Post by eltonblues on Apr 16, 2018 13:11:44 GMT
I wouldn't discount someone just because he is at a lower level, we have no cash, we are still in the mire and our recent exploits off the field are not going to attract people who mqny would see as a great fit. We need to be realistic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 13:18:29 GMT
This ^^ Realistically, what 'name' manager is going to apply for a job for a team who has been relegated, has publicised money issues, with the previous manager saying that there is every chance of a further relegation as things stand. Hiding to nothing. The investment will help, but obviously having a cut-off point for applications on Wednesday will mean that investment is still unknown.
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Post by billyw on Apr 16, 2018 13:48:22 GMT
Honestly don't want any manager that's managing lower than the conference north, just seen Runcorn manager wants it and if we go for Him then it shows our ambition to move forward... Just noticed the caption underneath the picture of him "Chris Herbert, who has managed Conwy Borough, Cefn Druids and Flint Town United, has joined Chester FC" Hopefully this isn't the illuminati! And how can a "Chester Lad" go onto play 200 games for Wrexham. I think it was Mark McGregor his assistant, rather than Herbert who played 200 games for Wrexham
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Post by billyw on Apr 16, 2018 13:49:56 GMT
This ^^ Realistically, what 'name' manager is going to apply for a job for a team who has been relegated, has publicised money issues, with the previous manager saying that there is every chance of a further relegation as things stand. Hiding to nothing. The investment will help, but obviously having a cut-off point for applications on Wednesday will mean that investment is still unknown. Spot on.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Apr 16, 2018 13:50:59 GMT
I don't doubt Herbert is a good scout, but unless anyone can show me different, as a manager he's not really hit any great heights?
other than founding the spice girls of course.
Ive seen Herbert has previously managed Welshpool, Cefn Druids and also Conwy Borough, where he won the league cup and finished second in the Huws Gray Alliance in 2012/2013.
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Post by rossettred on Apr 16, 2018 13:55:48 GMT
Just noticed the caption underneath the picture of him "Chris Herbert, who has managed Conwy Borough, Cefn Druids and Flint Town United, has joined Chester FC" Hopefully this isn't the illuminati! And how can a "Chester Lad" go onto play 200 games for Wrexham. I think it was Mark McGregor his assistant, rather than Herbert who played 200 games for Wrexham Mark Dale Thomas McGregor (born 16 February 1977) is an English footballer who plays as a defender for North West Counties League Premier Division club Runcorn Town; he is also the club's assistant manager. He played 498 games in a 13-year career in the Football League, mostly in the third tier. He started his career at Wrexham in 1995, and made 288 league and cup appearances in his six years for the Welsh club, before he signed with Burnley. In July 2004 he moved from Burnley to Blackpool. In January 2006 he transferred to Port Vale, before joining Conference side Altrincham in August 2008. He stayed in Altrincham for one season, before becoming player-manager at Gap Connah's Quay. He led the club to the Cymru Alliance title for two consecutive seasons. He returned to just playing football with Cefn Druids in January 2015. He was appointed player-assistant manager of Runcorn Town in April 2016.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 13:57:23 GMT
I think the new manager wont need a tour of the stadium, he's already well acquainted with the place.
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Post by Matt on Apr 16, 2018 14:01:12 GMT
I think the new manager wont need a tour of the stadium, he's already well acquainted with the place. Already been decided?
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