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Post by Cestrian1987 on Aug 11, 2018 20:35:42 GMT
According to someone 'close to the club' a number of players who played today have played their last game for the club. You mean the manager said it in a interview
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Post by tonya on Aug 11, 2018 20:37:04 GMT
According to someone 'close to the club' a number of players who played today have played their last game for the club. Jonno said it in his post match interview If this is the case, which I very much doubt, it's a pretty sad reflection on the management team. They assembled the team, coached them etc etc. However I doubt if this rumour is true.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 11, 2018 20:39:54 GMT
In all honesty I don’t think what Jonno said will happen, it’s just a message for our players to think about so they can be fired up for the next game to avoid repeating today’s calamity. Interesting comment for him to make though considering a fair proportion of the fanbase have been bemoaning the 5-3-2 system since the first game. Should we just expect non league players to adapt? Should they take the full 100% blame for today?
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Post by tonya on Aug 11, 2018 20:46:22 GMT
Words can simply not describe what I have had to put up with today. That performance was beyond shocking, and puts the Halifax and Kidderminster performances into perspective. I have not seen anything like that in my time as a Chester FC supporter. Blyth Spartans were nothing special really, but we made them look like Barcelona; it was that easy. In my opinion they were the type of side who would just hoof the ball up in a normal game... a normal game this was not. We constantly gave the ball away for fun. Where was the blood and sweat from Monday night? Where was the desire from Monday night? Where was the togetherness from Monday night? NOWHERE!!! I thought that we undergone a clean slate during the Summer and built a side that would fight for every single ball. There was just nothing in us at all today, and I don’t know what has caused this catastrophe to happen. We gave the ball away more frequently than we passed it, we shown no fighting spirit at all, we seemed incredibly lost and disjointed, I can go on... It’s obvious that this current formation does not work, as all of our players didn’t know what to do with themselves for the whole game. I will be watching with great interest to find out how our managers will turn this tragedy around as they weren’t used to situations like this at there former clubs. Maybe as this season goes on we will be competent but come on, this is Blyth Spartans we are talking about here, a side who were in the EBAC League not so long ago. Even Liverpool managed to score less than them. I still believe that we will go onto have a decent season, but if we carry on playing like this then we will be staring into oblivion. This result has seriously brought me back down to earth and made me realise that results like this can happen. I am extremely proud to be a Chester FC supporter and will be forever, but for the sake of tonight, I feel absolutely embarrassed. We must focus on Kidderminster now. That name is still giving me shivers from last season and I will be curious to see how we react to today’s nightmare as the attendance might be affected too. What an excruciatingly bad day to be a Chester FC supporter. Why do you think we'll still have a decent season? On the evidence so far this there is no evidence to suggest we will. It's wisfull thinking based on hope. The saying 'Wing and a prayer' springs to mind. Hopefully you are right for the sake of the club because a combination of similar results would be disastrous, to put it lightly.
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Post by thestanchion on Aug 11, 2018 20:48:33 GMT
We need a right back and a left back and a decent goalkeeper. Pritchard and Smalley were awful. Either stay back or press the man coming forward. How many times in the first half did their right mid pick up a ball down the channel? Feel humiliated after that. Friendly club nice day out til 3pm. Lost day's wages, 400 miles for that. At least with honest John we only lost every game by 1 or 2..
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Aug 11, 2018 20:59:27 GMT
Jonno said it in his post match interview If this is the case, which I very much doubt, it's a pretty sad reflection on the management team. They assembled the team, coached them etc etc. However I doubt if this rumour is true. What are you struggling to understand? He said it in his interview. On camera. It’s not a ‘rumour’ he said it.
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Post by trublu on Aug 11, 2018 21:01:42 GMT
Shocking performance, Gary Roberts looked the only one able to put his foot on the ball and set the play as well, worrying that he's going to be missing for 3 games.
Both wingbacks looked poor defensively and leaves a back 3 always overloaded.
Didn't have an answer for their no. 9 either who looked a step ahead of any of our defenders all day.
I think we have 3 wingers and no in this squad and until Green returns no one to play in behind the strikers, 442 definitely the way to go, when he does need to look carefully whether to play him in CM or sacrifice an out and out striker for him in behind.
Keeper had a shocker, never got anywhere near anything all day, he needs to put that behind him and improve quickly.
Not sure what happened on the coach on the way there but these players know the management team by and large so can't see how they'd be shocked by any no gadget rule or whatever. Liverpool supposedly went on a bad run the season before last due to Klopp doing the same thing I believe.
One lad near us packed up his banner and left at 3-0 down, he had the right idea!
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 11, 2018 21:02:20 GMT
Jonno said it in his post match interview If this is the case, which I very much doubt, it's a pretty sad reflection on the management team. They assembled the team, coached them etc etc. However I doubt if this rumour is true. Watch the interview for yourself and hear him say those exact words.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 11, 2018 21:05:59 GMT
Words can simply not describe what I have had to put up with today. That performance was beyond shocking, and puts the Halifax and Kidderminster performances into perspective. I have not seen anything like that in my time as a Chester FC supporter. Blyth Spartans were nothing special really, but we made them look like Barcelona; it was that easy. In my opinion they were the type of side who would just hoof the ball up in a normal game... a normal game this was not. We constantly gave the ball away for fun. Where was the blood and sweat from Monday night? Where was the desire from Monday night? Where was the togetherness from Monday night? NOWHERE!!! I thought that we undergone a clean slate during the Summer and built a side that would fight for every single ball. There was just nothing in us at all today, and I don’t know what has caused this catastrophe to happen. We gave the ball away more frequently than we passed it, we shown no fighting spirit at all, we seemed incredibly lost and disjointed, I can go on... It’s obvious that this current formation does not work, as all of our players didn’t know what to do with themselves for the whole game. I will be watching with great interest to find out how our managers will turn this tragedy around as they weren’t used to situations like this at there former clubs. Maybe as this season goes on we will be competent but come on, this is Blyth Spartans we are talking about here, a side who were in the EBAC League not so long ago. Even Liverpool managed to score less than them. I still believe that we will go onto have a decent season, but if we carry on playing like this then we will be staring into oblivion. This result has seriously brought me back down to earth and made me realise that results like this can happen. I am extremely proud to be a Chester FC supporter and will be forever, but for the sake of tonight, I feel absolutely embarrassed. We must focus on Kidderminster now. That name is still giving me shivers from last season and I will be curious to see how we react to today’s nightmare as the attendance might be affected too. What an excruciatingly bad day to be a Chester FC supporter. Why do you think we'll still have a decent season? On the evidence so far this there is no evidence to suggest we will. It's wistful thinking based on hope. The saying 'Wing and a prayer' springs to mind. Hopefully you are right for the sake of the club because a combination of similar results would be disastrous, to put it lightly. Freak results like this do happen. I’m faithful that Bern and Jonno will put things right to prevent such catastrophes in the future.
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Post by Lobster on Aug 11, 2018 21:08:24 GMT
That cant be just a bad performance, a bad performance is losing 4 nil. To lose by that margin something must be up, they must have completely given up, and gone past caring. Has there been a dressing room fall out, or have they been on the ale ? Doesn't make sense to me. My guess is they were just totally unfocused. Maybe went up there confident and in high spirits, laughing and joking on the coach etc, but then forgot there was a football match to play, and we came up against a team who were fired up. It’s a shock because if nothing else I thought the mentality and heart would be there with these two. Personally I don’t think it’s a great team we’ve got - I thought the same after the Spennymoor match - and I can accept that, because our budget is modest, but to lose like that so early in the season is alarming. Trying to be philosophical, it kind of doesn’t matter that much whether you lose 1-0 or 8-1. Yes, I know people will say goal difference, but that’s only a factor if you finish level on points with someone, and if you do you should look first at games you should’ve won. Also, it’s true that to start with a draw, a win and a loss is better than to start with three draws like we did last season, however embarrassing the loss is. Where it hurts is psychologically. I became a bit numb to results last season, but this is a fresh start and to get our worst defeat in decades so early into it is painful. It’s definitely a good thing to have a game on Tuesday, and we must see a response. There’s only so many false dawns the fans can take before we all lose the energy.
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Post by MOC on Aug 11, 2018 21:10:30 GMT
Dreadful result to say the least today but the key thing for me now is how well we bounce back from it. Don’t forget that in the next game after the 7-1 humiliation against Brighton we won 2-0 away at Exeter. A good win on Tuesday night would certainly help the club quickly move on from today’s debacle, but a bad result would deepen the wounds.
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 11, 2018 21:12:00 GMT
The season is on a knife-edge already IMO. Could go off the rails very quickly with another poor show against Kiddy. Three home games in quick succession now and that could either be a good thing or an absolutely disastrous one.
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Post by whopper1 on Aug 11, 2018 21:12:25 GMT
Just got back from watching that shower, number 7,think it was dan mooney,what a total yard dog,should of put us 1 up, instead decided to tit around with the ball for to long, corners, free kicks etc were a total joke, goalkeeper is poor even though he pulled off a couple of decent saves,should of been 6 down at half time, easily could of been double figures, only decent thing was getting a pint at half time and throughout the game.
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Post by trublu on Aug 11, 2018 21:14:07 GMT
Why do you think we'll still have a decent season? On the evidence so far this there is no evidence to suggest we will. It's wisfull thinking based on hope. The saying'Wing on a prayer' springs to mind. Hopefully you are right for the sake of the club because a combination of similar results would be disastrous, to put it lightly. Freak results like this do happen. I’m faithful that Bern and Jonno will put things right to prevent such catastrophes in the future. I actually think the tactical issues thrown up by playing a back 3 and no natural wingers should have been apparent to them. I'm not one to over-react, but i think they do need to take a look at themselves and whether they should have been a bit quicker to act. Performances in the first 2 games have been ok, but the start against Curzon could have left us 3-0 down and Spennymore created a few 1-on-1s that showed up these problems.
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Post by thebluecamp on Aug 11, 2018 21:23:30 GMT
If this is the case, which I very much doubt, it's a pretty sad reflection on the management team. They assembled the team, coached them etc etc. However I doubt if this rumour is true. Watch the interview for yourself and hear him say those exact words. Where is the interview SB ?
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Post by Lobster on Aug 11, 2018 21:24:58 GMT
Is it just me that finds the “three at the back” complaints a bit trivial? I’d get it if we’d lost by one or two, but it sounds like there was a bit more wrong today than the system.
Tempted to just write this one off as a nightmare and move on. We’ll see what the reaction is on Tuesday. They daren’t put in another stinker.
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Post by delamereal on Aug 11, 2018 21:27:26 GMT
I thought once we went 4 down and only had 10 men it would have been damage limitation to keep it to that score but no we went forward gung ho as if they thought that they could score 4 and get a point.
LUDICROUS!!!
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Post by trublu on Aug 11, 2018 21:29:49 GMT
Is it just me that finds the “three at the back” complaints a bit trivial? I’d get it if we’d lost by one or two, but it sounds like there was a bit more wrong today than the system. Tempted to just write this one off as a nightmare and move on. We’ll see what the reaction is on Tuesday. They daren’t put in another stinker. Well we've been getting ripped apart for 3 games running by our wingbacks being totally incapable of getting back. 3 at the back is fine if you can control the wing play and channel everything through the middle, but we can't because the wingbacks are bombing forward all the time.
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Post by avfo on Aug 11, 2018 21:39:17 GMT
Watch the interview for yourself and hear him say those exact words. Where is the interview SB ? "We’ve got a game on Tuesday, but one or two need to understand what’s happened. I’ve just gone in there and I’ve said to one or two of them ‘rip your contracts up and leave the football club’ because after that performance, I wouldn’t dare turn up again. "I feel the same about myself, to be honest with you. I’m embarrassed to be able walk out there on Tuesday night in front of however many people are going to be there – I feel embarrassed about it, so God knows what one or two of them are thinking. soundcloud.com/dave-phillips-12/11-august-2018-170440
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Post by sqzl on Aug 11, 2018 21:42:09 GMT
Is it just me that finds the “three at the back” complaints a bit trivial? I’d get it if we’d lost by one or two, but it sounds like there was a bit more wrong today than the system. Tempted to just write this one off as a nightmare and move on. We’ll see what the reaction is on Tuesday. They daren’t put in another stinker. Well we've been getting ripped apart for 3 games running by our wingbacks being totally incapable of getting back. 3 at the back is fine if you can control the wing play and channel everything through the middle, but we can't because the wingbacks are bombing forward all the time. We haven’t been ripped apart though hve we, we didn’t concede a goal first two games. Curzon only had one decent chance and that was a ball in behind the centre backs. Whilst I agree the wing backs don’t know how to play there, it’s a bit OTT to say we’ve been ripped apart three games when we’ve had two clean sheets. There was far more wrong today than the wing backs, it started from the front, missing Tuton closing defenders down. Then midfield were diabolic and won nothing, no first balls or second. Then finally the defence, frankly you’d rather have had a few fans playing there today.
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 11, 2018 21:46:01 GMT
Steady on. It's one game. You're right - talk means nothing without any action, and as I said, it will be interesting to see what happens on Tuesday. Would you prefer he came out and spoke a load of tosh that we all know is nonsense a la McCarthy? But I think that this is the point Billy was making . Messrs Burr and McCarthy, and to a lesser extent Bignot, were masters at talking a great game and giving inadequate excuses for utterly abysmal performances /results - although none as a bad as this . Surely this club cannot afford more of the same - despite the reputations of the duo. We can only hope and pray for significant improvement on Tuesday & Saturday. I actually think that was the point that I was making.
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Post by trublu on Aug 11, 2018 22:09:15 GMT
Well we've been getting ripped apart for 3 games running by our wingbacks being totally incapable of getting back. 3 at the back is fine if you can control the wing play and channel everything through the middle, but we can't because the wingbacks are bombing forward all the time. We haven’t been ripped apart though hve we, we didn’t concede a goal first two games. Curzon only had one decent chance and that was a ball in behind the centre backs. Whilst I agree the wing backs don’t know how to play there, it’s a bit OTT to say we’ve been ripped apart three games when we’ve had two clean sheets. There was far more wrong today than the wing backs, it started from the front, missing Tuton closing defenders down. Then midfield were diabolic and won nothing, no first balls or second. Then finally the defence, frankly you’d rather have had a few fans playing there today. I'll stick by what I meant, it's been a clear point of weakness and it is tactical because not only do both wingbacks look lost defensively due to their advanced position, I don't think these central defenders are coping either. Today the rest of the team forwards fell apart and I think that was because Tuton was holding the ball up better than anyone and Matty Hughes is a winger forced into a strikers role. I've seen 3 at the back win games with Jamie Heard and Carl Regan at wing back so I know it doesn't just come down to the full backs, but these 2 are getting caught out over and over again and it clearly isn't working for this side. I'd go 442 on Tuesday and may be 451 once Tuton and Green are back. One positive from today, young Marsh Hughes looks to have the physicality to put himself about a bit and isnt lacking confidence. Not a bad option off the bench whilst he gains some experience and could see a few goals in him.
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Post by jabber on Aug 11, 2018 22:30:14 GMT
Unfortunately I've mentioned on a different thread , let's wait and see but reading this from people who went I'm shocked! 8 1 , that a schoolboy score , there is something fundamentally wrong , we never played a league team, they haven't won before playing us, some of them were either drunk or decided not give a **** , needs to be sorted.
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Post by Matt on Aug 11, 2018 22:35:08 GMT
There is a bit of a Nantwich feel to it, I know it’s a shambolic result but in the long run this result could pay off. I do think there’s a lot of over reaction on here which will hopefully be calmed down with a decent result on Tuesday.
Does anyone know if we can appeal the red card? Jono mentioned something about looking at the video of the foul. I didn’t know decisions like that could be appealed at this level, it didn’t last year.
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Post by bluejay on Aug 11, 2018 22:54:38 GMT
There is a bit of a Nantwich feel to it, I know it’s a shambolic result but in the long run this result could pay off. I do think there’s a lot of over reaction on here which will hopefully be calmed down with a decent result on Tuesday. Does anyone know if we can appeal the red card? Jono mentioned something about looking at the video of the foul. I didn’t know decisions like that could be appealed at this level, it didn’t last year. Nantwich came to my mind as well. Big bust up in the dressing room, abysmal performance on the day, but we never looked back after that. Fingers crossed...
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Post by mrmanero on Aug 11, 2018 23:07:32 GMT
There is a bit of a Nantwich feel to it, I know it’s a shambolic result but in the long run this result could pay off. I do think there’s a lot of over reaction on here which will hopefully be calmed down with a decent result on Tuesday. Does anyone know if we can appeal the red card? Jono mentioned something about looking at the video of the foul. I didn’t know decisions like that could be appealed at this level, it didn’t last year. Well said. This result will be a blessing for all. I’ve no doubt they will be a stronger group for this tonking. I’ve just had another bit on with skybet for the title.
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Post by Anders on Aug 12, 2018 0:03:12 GMT
That was stupid, from a personal point of view I had an absolute horror journey and back up there, all to view one of the worst result and performances we’ve ever produced.
Completely overrun, Blyth could just ping a ball out wide and they would be right in on us. This formation is rubbish, the lads out wide don’t know what to do and we have three slow ageing centre backs getting pulled all over the place. Today, Howson got a knock in the first half and limped his way through the rest of the game, why wasn’t Moran brought on? Up until Roberts' red card Blyth pretty much just put away every chance they had. They had plenty more chances after that but we did improve somewhat to get a bit more of the ball with ten men. Roberts’ red card looked harsh from where I was, it looked just about a foul to me, there was no appeal from Blyth and their physio wasn’t even required, was a bit of a shock to see a red card come out.
At the moment Smalley and Pritchard are being asked to cover their side all alone and they don’t know whether to stay back or go forward. The wider centre backs get pulled out wide and they’re both slow. Up at the other end Dan Mooney is completely lost, he blatantly wants to hug a touchline but is plonked in the middle not knowing what to do. On the day I forgot Gary Stopforth was playing until he stroked one in as a consolation, he undoubtedly did a lot of running as he always does but the midfield was completely outnumbered.
Can only give credit to Blyth, they’re no world beaters but they were excellent on the day and caught us on a bad one. Really liked Croft Park as well, decent set-up that is superior to many of those a level above.
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Post by stavros on Aug 12, 2018 5:50:03 GMT
Don’t worry lads and ladies. We ve had a good spanking and sometimes these things work out as pushing things along for the better. I tell you what though, thank god people didn’t spend the week on devachat speculating which players we should keep when we get promoted, musing about reaching 100 points, being optimistic that the majority of the squad will stay when we are promoted, looking forward to playing Shrewsbury again, discussing when to go full time again and wondering whether we can have part time players in league one.
That would be REALLY embarrassing.
Massive wake up call for all concerned. Onwards and upwards (just maybe not as quickly as the supporters branch would wish)
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 12, 2018 6:48:52 GMT
Agreed with a lot of the thought on here that the result was a bit of a freak one, Brazil 1 Germany 7 World Cup semi final anyone.... Nobody saw that coming either.
Something is not quite right though, and I would certainly hope the management team make some changes to the formation after that. As for some people calling for Gary Roberts to be binned off, if Wenger or Ferguson had took the same attitude over Viera and Keane then they wouldn't have won anything. I think we need to accept that Gary is not only a great player at this level but also a committed one too, couple that with some very poor referees in this league and he will get sent off again for us this season, mark my words. This result has happened, its gone, finished with, we move on to the Kiddy game next and the players and staff have a chance to put that result right. Lets see how they react.
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 12, 2018 6:53:41 GMT
Why do you think we'll still have a decent season? On the evidence so far this there is no evidence to suggest we will. It's wistful thinking based on hope. The saying 'Wing and a prayer' springs to mind. Hopefully you are right for the sake of the club because a combination of similar results would be disastrous, to put it lightly. Freak results like this do happen. I’m faithful that Bern and Jonno will put things right to prevent such catastrophes in the future. My feeling is that Johnson doesn't have a clue what went wrong. They're both on trial for me now and they need to produce a reaction on Tuesday.
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