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Post by billyw on Aug 12, 2018 7:09:12 GMT
Freak results like this do happen. I’m faithful that Bern and Jonno will put things right to prevent such catastrophes in the future. My feeling is that Johnson doesn't have a clue what went wrong. They're both on trial for me now and they need to produce a reaction on Tuesday. He certainly gives the impression he hasn't a clue what went wrong, and whether he has the ability to identify it and put things right, time will tell. Let's hope Bern and Jonny don't become Morley and Johnson.
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Post by Paul Da Part on Aug 12, 2018 7:22:05 GMT
Words can simply not describe what I have had to put up with today. That performance was beyond shocking, and puts the Halifax and Kidderminster performances into perspective. I have not seen anything like that in my time as a Chester FC supporter. Blyth Spartans were nothing special really, but we made them look like Barcelona; it was that easy. In my opinion they were the type of side who would just hoof the ball up in a normal game... a normal game this was not. We constantly gave the ball away for fun. Where was the blood and sweat from Monday night? Where was the desire from Monday night? Where was the togetherness from Monday night? NOWHERE!!! I thought that we undergone a clean slate during the Summer and built a side that would fight for every single ball. There was just nothing in us at all today, and I don’t know what has caused this catastrophe to happen. We gave the ball away more frequently than we passed it, we shown no fighting spirit at all, we seemed incredibly lost and disjointed, I can go on... It’s obvious that this current formation does not work, as all of our players didn’t know what to do with themselves for the whole game. I will be watching with great interest to find out how our managers will turn this tragedy around as they weren’t used to situations like this at there former clubs. Maybe as this season goes on we will be competent but come on, this is Blyth Spartans we are talking about here, a side who were in the EBAC League not so long ago. Even Liverpool managed to score less than them. I still believe that we will go onto have a decent season, but if we carry on playing like this then we will be staring into oblivion. This result has seriously brought me back down to earth and made me realise that results like this can happen. I am extremely proud to be a Chester FC supporter and will be forever, but for the sake of tonight, I feel absolutely embarrassed. We must focus on Kidderminster now. That name is still giving me shivers from last season and I will be curious to see how we react to today’s nightmare as the attendance might be affected too. What an excruciatingly bad day to be a Chester FC supporter. Considering you had no words to describe a little defeat you’ve drawn up quite an impressive summary! 😉
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 12, 2018 7:24:56 GMT
In fairness none of us could have seen that coming. Yes, We could have got beat 2-3 nil but 8-1 suggests something was very wrong. It is the kind of result you associate with a club in crisis. The one thing I didn't expect with this squad was for us to rollover at any point, but that's exactly what happened. Hopefully it's focused a few minds around the squad. As for working out what went wrong they had a very long coach journey back to dissect it. I'm expecting a big reaction on Tuesday night - don't want that cretin Richards giving us the run round.
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 12, 2018 7:28:06 GMT
I thought once we went 4 down and only had 10 men it would have been damage limitation to keep it to that score but no we went forward gung ho as if they thought that they could score 4 and get a point. LUDICROUS!!! The usual mindset would be to shut up shop at 4 and make sure no one gets sent off or injured in a dead game. That way you don't put the next game at risk too. That would be my approach. I'd change shape and try a few things out that I'd thinking of trying. We made a sub to go more attacking then Gary got sent off, which made us more vulnerable. Our managers mentality is to score 4. They did that at Kiddie last season. Be interesting so see how they react to that defeat. Don't believe they've ever had to turn round a result like that so far. Suspect they'll be a few games like that this season, both for and against.
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Post by Lobster on Aug 12, 2018 8:12:56 GMT
There are many criticisms that can made of yesterday, but I certainly don’t agree with shutting up shot at 4-0 down. It’s not uncommon to see teams come back from 3 or 4 down these days, especially at our level where momentum is a big part of the game.
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Post by southernblue on Aug 12, 2018 8:39:47 GMT
Reminds me of when we went to Nantwich in our 2nd season and were expected to win easily. Youngie dropped a clanger by dropping Simm and Howard for turning up late even though I'd seen them at 2.00. Nantwich then proceed to give us a good hammering 4-1. We're not as good as we think we are. I was at that game, it was awful, freezing cold for August, and an hour long queue for the food kiosk.
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Post by thebluecamp on Aug 12, 2018 8:39:58 GMT
Where is the interview SB ? "We’ve got a game on Tuesday, but one or two need to understand what’s happened. I’ve just gone in there and I’ve said to one or two of them ‘rip your contracts up and leave the football club’ because after that performance, I wouldn’t dare turn up again. "I feel the same about myself, to be honest with you. I’m embarrassed to be able walk out there on Tuesday night in front of however many people are going to be there – I feel embarrassed about it, so God knows what one or two of them are thinking. soundcloud.com/dave-phillips-12/11-august-2018-170440Thank you for the link AVFO, and for your excellent, and consistent input on the site. Very much appreciated.
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Post by bitbbh on Aug 12, 2018 9:28:21 GMT
So as not to jinx our start to the season i thought i better continue starting the match thread sequence.
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Post by Lobster on Aug 12, 2018 9:45:17 GMT
I've been watching since the end of 1959/60 season and I'm struggling to remember 8 going in .. if ever. I remember us losing 11-2 away to Oldham in the fifties. We had an excuse that day as we had played Chelsea in the Cup a couple of days previously. Other than that, I can't remember a bigger defeat than today's. Had a look through On The Borderline this morning and it looks like this is the first time we’ve let in eight since the 11-2 defeat at Oldham in January 1952, so it’s our worst defeat in 66 years. I think the last time we lost by seven goals was what must have been a painful day at Wrexham in 1953. Amazingly really when you think of some of the awful teams and dire situations we’ve been in during that time. It just shouldn’t be happening this season.
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Post by MOC on Aug 12, 2018 10:16:01 GMT
I remember us losing 11-2 away to Oldham in the fifties. We had an excuse that day as we had played Chelsea in the Cup a couple of days previously. Other than that, I can't remember a bigger defeat than today's. Had a look through On The Borderline this morning and it looks like this is the first time we’ve let in eight since the 11-2 defeat at Oldham in January 1952, so it’s our worst defeat in 66 years. I think the last time we lost by seven goals was what must have been a painful day at Wrexham in 1953. Amazingly really when you think of some of the awful teams and dire situations we’ve been in during that time. It just shouldn’t be happening this season. If we are talking about all competitive games and not just league matches then a 9-2 League Cup defeat at Orient in 1962-63 appears to be the last time we lost by so many.
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Post by Greasby Blue on Aug 12, 2018 10:22:42 GMT
I was told yesterday that Tuton has left the club.
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Post by chesterken on Aug 12, 2018 10:52:41 GMT
There are many criticisms that can made of yesterday, but I certainly don’t agree with shutting up shot at 4-0 down. It’s not uncommon to see teams come back from 3 or 4 down these days, especially at our level where momentum is a big part of the game. For the first time ever I feel I have to disagree with you here Lobster, when you are playing so poorly and are losing 4-0 then have a man sent off you have got to steady the ship. The last thing you do is put another forward on and try to win 5-4, this is not some fantasy you watch on tv where a miracle happens it’s the hard reality of semi pro football. We should have changed formation to stop us being so open and allow us to get a foothold back into the game, had we won that second half 1-0 it would have made for a far less embarrassing result and would have left us in a far better place than we are at the moment. I feel that this has to be a lesson learnt by the managers as well as the players as they have never been in this situation before, let’s treat Tuesday as a clean sheet and get behind the team and hope we see a massive improvement and result.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 12, 2018 11:06:02 GMT
That was stupid, from a personal point of view I had an absolute horror journey and back up there, all to view one of the worst result and performances we’ve ever produced. Completely overrun, Blyth could just ping a ball out wide and they would be right in on us. This formation is rubbish, the lads out wide don’t know what to do and we have three slow ageing centre backs getting pulled all over the place. Today, Howson got a knock in the first half and limped his way through the rest of the game, why wasn’t Moran brought on? Up until Roberts' red card Blyth pretty much just put away every chance they had. They had plenty more chances after that but we did improve somewhat to get a bit more of the ball with ten men. Roberts’ red card looked harsh from where I was, it looked just about a foul to me, there was no appeal from Blyth and their physio wasn’t even required, was a bit of a shock to see a red card come out. At the moment Smalley and Pritchard are being asked to cover their side all alone and they don’t know whether to stay back or go forward. The wider centre backs get pulled out wide and they’re both slow. Up at the other end Dan Mooney is completely lost, he blatantly wants to hug a touchline but is plonked in the middle not knowing what to do. On the day I forgot Gary Stopforth was playing until he stroked one in as a consolation, he undoubtedly did a lot of running as he always does but the midfield was completely outnumbered. Can only give credit to Blyth, they’re no world beaters but they were excellent on the day and caught us on a bad one. Really liked Croft Park as well, decent set-up that is superior to many of those a level above. You’re so correct. The wing backs are being asked to do so much and it’s making them look terrible. They’re good full backs, Clueless wing backs.
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 12, 2018 11:35:15 GMT
I was told yesterday that Tuton has left the club. And who told you that?
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 12, 2018 11:49:32 GMT
I was told yesterday that Tuton has left the club. If that's the case why has it been leaked on here and no official statement from the club.
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Post by Greasby Blue on Aug 12, 2018 11:52:17 GMT
I was told yesterday that Tuton has left the club. And who told you that? A friend of a friend who works for the club
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Post by Anders on Aug 12, 2018 12:05:36 GMT
LINK to video replay of the goals to see how it happened.
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 12, 2018 12:15:02 GMT
One positive from yesterday, Lloyds Marsh-Hughes coming on and not looking out of place is what I have read, at just 17 years old. Well done to him - in his final academy year now and he'll be in the first team before we know it.
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 12, 2018 12:23:30 GMT
One positive from yesterday, Lloyds Marsh-Hughes coming on and not looking out of place is what I have read, at just 17 years old. Well done to him - in his final academy year now and he'll be in the first team before we know it. Marsh-Hughes looks a real prospect. I think he's the next one to move into the league. Him and Cain Noble are the best we've produced since Sam Hughes imo. Cain isn't as slick a player as Tom Crawford, but as a good competitive midfielder he'll find it easier to get into a League Two team. Dont think he's far off starting for us now.
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Post by Blockhead on Aug 12, 2018 12:23:51 GMT
LINK to video replay of the goals to see how it happened. Disgraceful.
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 12, 2018 12:31:09 GMT
Some of that defending is looks like match-fixing. Almost letting them score, and no reaction to conceding. Wow
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Aug 12, 2018 12:55:11 GMT
LINK to video replay of the goals to see how it happened. Wow. How easy was that? Looked like we approached it as a training match. The managers are rightly embarrassed, it's an awful reflection on them and these signings. As a few of us have said since pre-season, our keeper is well dodgey - even by the NLN's modest standards. We need to forget that it's still early days, it's already obvious that their system doesn't suit us. No need to wait until we're thumped again to make the change.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 13:17:11 GMT
Is this what we have become,playing a pub team in a shite ground, and getting totally humiliated ? Harry will be spinning in his grave. The players and management should hang their heads in shame.
I have said it before, there's more to this loss than meets the eye, some of those players look like they are trying to lose !
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 12, 2018 13:21:27 GMT
Is this what we have become,playing a pub team in a shite ground, and getting totally humiliated ? Harry will be spinning in his grave. The players and management should hang their heads in shame. I have said it before, there's more to this loss than meets the eye, some of those players look like they are trying to lose ! Like I said 3 posts up... really strange... for a squad with big character and leaders they didn't seem bothered and only Burton has said anything on Twitter.
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Post by chesterken on Aug 12, 2018 13:22:13 GMT
The first half is murder but the second half after the sending off has to go down as suicide.
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Post by Si on Aug 12, 2018 13:41:40 GMT
Some of that defending is looks like match-fixing. Almost letting them score, and no reaction to conceding. Wow The defending was crap but more worrying was the lack of reaction. Doesn't seem like there was any anger or attempts to galvonise....nothing at all. Very weird. Was there a fight on the bus before the game or something?!
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Post by billyw on Aug 12, 2018 13:45:50 GMT
Some of that defending is looks like match-fixing. Almost letting them score, and no reaction to conceding. Wow The defending was crap but more worrying was the lack of reaction. Doesn't seem like there was any anger or attempts to galvonise....nothing at all. Very weird. Was there a fight on the bus before the game or something?! The bus journey was meant to be a bonding session. Clearly didn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 13:49:47 GMT
Who knows, but its wouldn't surprise me if something comes out latter in the week.
The players are, strangely, saying nothing on social media either. As you say its the lack of reaction that is very unusual, not even frustration or acknowledgement of the situation. Didn't look a bonded group of players to me, far from it.
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Post by Matt on Aug 12, 2018 13:55:49 GMT
Who knows, but its wouldn't surprise me if something comes out latter in the week. The players are, strangely, saying nothing on social media either. As you say its the lack of reaction that is very unusual, not even frustration or acknowledgement of the situation. Didn't look a bonded group of players to me, far from it. There wouldn’t be much to say really. The only cliche of “Not the result we wanted, we go again next week” sometimes talking is best saved for the pitch. I’m hoping that’s the plan.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 12, 2018 15:03:47 GMT
Match highlights:
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