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Post by undressed on Feb 1, 2017 17:47:54 GMT
Any leave voters still willing to show themselves now the country and world has been left in such a state?
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Post by Buckley Blue on Feb 1, 2017 18:48:15 GMT
And what state would this be
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Post by wxmred on Feb 1, 2017 19:39:14 GMT
Any leave voters still willing to show themselves now the country and world has been left in such a state? Me, I voted leave and I will vote leave again if I have to.
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Post by Todger on Feb 1, 2017 19:41:56 GMT
And me. Best thing we've ever done
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Post by Manchester Blue on Feb 1, 2017 19:49:00 GMT
State of the world? didn't know the world revolved around Britain? Who the Americans voted for is their business.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 1, 2017 21:52:00 GMT
It's the US who are causing a stir. And I'm backing Brexit although I'm too young to vote.
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Post by Liberal Elite on Feb 1, 2017 22:00:36 GMT
It's the US who are causing a stir. And I'm backing brexit although I'm two young to vote. You've got an excuse then, the grown ups should be ashamed.
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Post by Liberal Elite on Feb 1, 2017 22:03:52 GMT
Will you still support Brexit when the weak pound, a direct result of the leave vote, causes petrol to rise above £1.50/litre by the end of the year.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 1, 2017 22:10:03 GMT
Will you still support Brexit when the weak pound, a direct result of the leave vote, causes petrol to rise above £1.50/litre by the end of the year. I'll think about it when I drive mate 😅 But tbh it would be a pain for that to go up, but their are other issues which should be discussed
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Post by Manchester Blue on Feb 1, 2017 22:37:39 GMT
its going to be an interesting year for sure. French, dutch and German elections to come.
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 1, 2017 23:28:02 GMT
I voted for Brexit, I knew what I was voting for, and I'd do it again if I had to. Did you see Ken Clarke imply that it was too big a decision to be left to the electorate.
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 2, 2017 6:23:02 GMT
I voted Remain and I really fear for our future. Ten years from now I can see Vauxhall, Nissan, Toyota, even Airbus all gone and the UK transformed in an offshore tax haven. I really hope I'm wrong. I'd be interested to hear leaver's motives for voting that way and what they hoped to achieve.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 2, 2017 6:28:54 GMT
I voted for Brexit, I knew what I was voting for, and I'd do it again if I had to. Did you see Ken Clarke imply that it was too big a decision to be left to the electorate. I'd agree with him. Most voters, on both sides, were poorly informed. The whole thing was badly orchestrated and there was clearly no plain in place for how we were going to leave. I don't believe in a second referendum, but if there were one I'm pretty sure the result would be different.
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Post by Al on Feb 2, 2017 7:08:48 GMT
If Airbus pull out of Broughton then people in our area will really feel it.
We might know people have family, friends, Chester supporters, who will no longer have a job off the back of it. Those people who may have been staunch supporters will no longer be employed and so the football club will be affected too.
It all has a knock on effect
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Post by ted the count on Feb 2, 2017 9:35:41 GMT
I agree with Lobster.I didnt vote as i'm as ill informed on international trade tariff's and cmon let's be honest who had heard of EEA and EFA deal's..and understood them? And i dont mean you heard about em a month before the referendum on newsnight. Tbh though i dont believe the sky is going to fall but i definitely know that is aint going to start raining gold coin's and people will be farting strawberry smelling rainbow's when were out either. For what it's worth...it's a little more complex than we were sold folk's. www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/brexit-explained/brexit-explained-10-things-know-about-world-trade-organization-wto
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Post by jb on Feb 2, 2017 13:26:20 GMT
None of this country's problems are a result of immigration. Also regardless of EU freedom of movement, total immigration every year has always been double that because we choose to let in hundreds of thousands of people every year from non-EU countries because immigration is good.
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Post by tom on Feb 2, 2017 16:34:47 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Feb 2, 2017 17:13:10 GMT
None of this country's problems are a result of immigration. Also regardless of EU freedom of movement, total immigration every year has always been double that because we choose to let in hundreds of thousands of people every year from non-EU countries because immigration is good. One stat that nobody seems to like when it comes to discussing the EU and immigration is that Switzerland, a non-EU nation, has by far the highest proportion of immigrants of any major European country at 28.9%. I mention this every time someone brings up one of these "let's take control of our own borders" arguments, and not once has anyone argued or even acknowledged the point. If pulling out of the EU was a route to limiting immigration, would you not expect the non-EU countries to have the fewest immigrants? Norway and Iceland buck that trend too, both having more than EU countries Denmark and Finland.
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Post by undressed on Feb 2, 2017 21:29:07 GMT
notice the brexiters have cleared off now a couple of facts have come out to play
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Post by Buckley Blue on Feb 2, 2017 21:56:17 GMT
Just bored with it all to be honest, we're leaving and that's it
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Post by Nigel F on Feb 2, 2017 22:04:36 GMT
Best thing that's happened in generations.
Together We Can Make Britain Great Again.
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Post by Pseudoscally on Feb 3, 2017 18:46:18 GMT
I fear for the big industry in the local area, Airbus, Vauxhall. These companies could easily pull the plug on investment over here.
I was made redundant at the end of 2015 from a company taken over by the yanks and then they moved all our production over to states. Products and technology that we (The UK) developed over 30 years ago, just snapped up and stolen and that's before the madman Trump got in. Hate to see what will happen now.
I now have to work over in Huddersfield to earn what I did before and keep my house. The weakening pound is not helping my commute and soon the price of food will rise.
It's ok though, at least we can keep the foreigners out.
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Post by themariobalotelli on Feb 3, 2017 19:34:55 GMT
I hear all of the 'make Britain great again' talk but when was Britain great? I grew up in the 70's and 80's and it was pretty bleak.Working class life and never went hungry but looking back the 70's and 80s werent the glory year's surely to feck? Not sure the 90s were esp great if you lived in one of those industrial areas that were closed and left to rot.Nick Danzigers 1996 book A journey to the edge show's that very well.1990's we already had a huge underclass/divided country so WHEN were we 'great'? When was this utopia that the rich right wing elite tell us is gonna come back?....i'm 46 and i've never known it.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 3, 2017 20:27:52 GMT
Embarrassing to hear a woman in the audience for Question Time in Wallasey yesterday admitting that she only voted to leave because of the story about straight bananas.
I'm not going to have a go at anyone for voting leave as long as they put some thought into it, but people like her have jeopardised jobs, helped hate crime rise and cast youth into an uncertain future they didn't want, all because of a trivial, made up story about fruit.
That's the only 'EU rule' anybody knows, and it's not even a real one. Just shows how frightening misinformed some people are, and how badly they need to reassess their priorities.
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 3, 2017 21:01:58 GMT
And there we have it, from the Brexit White Paper: there was no need to 'take back control', we never lost it. Ever get the feeling you've been conned?
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Post by Chester 68 on Feb 3, 2017 21:08:48 GMT
Yep. Voted Leave. Still think it is the correct thing to do. The European union is going to fall apart in the next 5 years.
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Post by Buckley Blue on Feb 3, 2017 23:52:20 GMT
I fear for the big industry in the local area, Airbus, Vauxhall. These companies could easily pull the plug on investment over here. I was made redundant at the end of 2015 from a company taken over by the yanks and then they moved all our production over to states. Products and technology that we (The UK) developed over 30 years ago, just snapped up and stolen and that's before the madman Trump got in. Hate to see what will happen now. I now have to work over in Huddersfield to earn what I did before and keep my house. The weakening pound is not helping my commute and soon the price of food will rise. It's ok though, at least we can keep the foreigners out. Did you work at Raytheon
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Post by Pseudoscally on Feb 4, 2017 1:06:05 GMT
I fear for the big industry in the local area, Airbus, Vauxhall. These companies could easily pull the plug on investment over here. I was made redundant at the end of 2015 from a company taken over by the yanks and then they moved all our production over to states. Products and technology that we (The UK) developed over 30 years ago, just snapped up and stolen and that's before the madman Trump got in. Hate to see what will happen now. I now have to work over in Huddersfield to earn what I did before and keep my house. The weakening pound is not helping my commute and soon the price of food will rise. It's ok though, at least we can keep the foreigners out. Did you work at Raytheon No. Not Raytheon. I worked for Excelsyn, Mostyn, Holywell. Taken over by a US firm AMRI who asset stripped us and moved production to the states.
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Post by Buckley Blue on Feb 4, 2017 12:12:58 GMT
No. Not Raytheon. I worked for Excelsyn, Mostyn, Holywell. Taken over by a US firm AMRI who asset stripped us and moved production to the states. About that time self same thing happened to myself at Raytheon, Broughton.
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Post by Pseudoscally on Feb 4, 2017 17:53:04 GMT
It's heart breaking and it's only going to get worse.
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