Brexit idiots 🇬🇧

Ok this is a bit off topic from Brexit but talking with a teacher today about the real possibility of some school's going to 4 day week's due to cut's.WTF?? England 2017 and school's going to 4 day week's as there's no cash...and i wont even get on to the record number of food bank's we now have....wtf is going on here?2017 and were going backward's.

Nowt to do w Europe that has brought us to this state in not so Great Britain.
I've no time for ANY of em Labour,Tory Ukip,Raving monster etc etc.....god know's what the answer is but politic's itself is on it's arse!!

I actually couldn't agree more

I voted leave, no problem

I'd just ask what, specifically, you think we're going to gain from it.

I don't think it's a disaster, personally. We'll plod along, and things will continue to be generally frustrating and disappointing. But the uncertainty it's caused, the isolation is brought us, the sense of vindication it's brought to outright bigots, I just don't see how any of this is worth it when I've yet to hear a single, concrete benefit of us not being in the EU.

Which laws would they be,?

Which rules and regulations would they be?

I can't find which EU Rules and Regulations Buckley Blue dislikes on the Google machine.

But if you feel strongly enough about these EU rules, you would think you'd be about to name at least one or two that you particularly disagree with.

Are you comfortable with the rules and policies being created by our own government, and do you trust them enough to effectively give them more power? And are you comfortable with the rules and regulations the Trump administration is coming up with in the U.S., which we have little choice but to smile and nod along to now that we've stuck two fingers up at Europe?

How about the rules and regulations that make privatisation and austerity a legal requirement of member states?

The abject disregard which the European Union showed for democracy in Greece and its treatment of the country in general makes the EU totally indefensible as an institution in my opinion.

You have the power to vote the Tory party out, however. 

Some thoughts on Brexit: First, the total lack of moral fibre of the government in refusing to guarantee the status of EU immigrants is reprehensible. Can they not imagine the unsettling effect on the families of these people, the sheer uncertainty, and all done in order that the government can use them as a bargaining chip, a policy that can only come from the minds with the empathy levels of a psychopath.

Next, it was clear even before the EUREF that the EU will not exist in anything like its current format for much longer, the world economy has not escaped the black hole of debt that hit the fan in 2008/9, both these reasons make the decision to hold the EUREF at that time ill judged.

The EU was the visionary dream that the downgrading of democracy, nationalism and its total buying into the political and economic neoliberal project turned into a nightmare (the economic side of neoliberalism has been on life support since 2009, its extend and pretend policies will not continue much longer, there will be either radical policy changes or another but more serious crash) however the political goals, as laid out in the Powell Memorandum * are still embedded into the core beliefs of nearly all governments and central bankers. * billmoyers.com/content/the-powell-memo-a-call-to-arms-for-corporations/ It was this document that was the catalyst for the founding of numerous think thanks, all having as their goal political strategies to reverse democracy, and shift power upwards, the economic side was secondary, simply a means to an end.

I don’t agree with referenda, we live in a representative democracy not a direct democracy, but given that a referendum was called I considered it be my civic duty to vote as I do in all elections.

I voted Leave and don’t regret it, though I despair at the way Brexit is being conducted; my reasons were varied, including: Discrediting a useless PM. Being anti-establishment and opposing globalisation Removing the UK from the political structures of the EU, due to the appalling treatment of Greece, and not being able to support an organisation that created the Euro, a currency set up with a central bank that unlike any national central bank does not guarantee all sovereign debt within its monetary area, and does not have a system of fiscal transfers, recycling surpluses by investing in deficit regions, hence the Euro works only to keep German exports cheap, and to suck the economic lifeblood out of the Eurozones poorer countries, the main reason the EU will implode.

All that said, not everything EU is bad, a complexity that the binary Remain/Leave EUREF question could never address, the Customs Union, EEA membership, the single market and a number of EU wide agreements in areas such as Education and Science are worth retaining if possible. For those that question the single market, just compare it to other multilateral trade agreements such as, CETA, the now Trump killed TTIP, NAFTA, and TPP, the single market has no Investor-state dispute settlement court system * It is far from perfect but to better it in regard to trade arrangements with the remaining 27 EU members is just not going to be possible .
* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investor-state_dispute_settlement

The country voted leave and so we must leave the EU, but that should not mean leaving the EEA. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Economic_Area This would be economic madness. The EEA, and EU customs union are two things that will be worth preserving even when the current corrupt EU finally collapses. We could partly satisfy the majorities desire to fully leave the EU by following the Swiss regarding the single market in having a multitude of bilateral agreements. To leave solely to escape from freedom of movement makes no sense; the problems in regions of high immigration are the result of failed domestic policy/planning not of the immigration itself.  A clip from a lecture by American Marxist Professor Richard Wolff. Leaving the EEA could well have terrible economic consequences for this area, should Peugeot, as expected. take over Vauxhall, should they decide to cut capacity European plants in the future, those located outside the EEA will, for obvious reasons, be top of the list.

In sum, Brexit yes, but a softer Brexit, not the economic stupidity in the name of ignorant xenophobia that is May’s Hard Brexit. The Icy winds of reality are going to become crystal clear very soon, and her hard Brexit is Brexit hubris is going look very hollow.

There are lots of reasons to be unhappy at her and her party, but I feel this argument undermines the point.

No PM is really 'voted in'. Unless you live in their constituency, you'll never have had May, Cameron, Blair, Brown or any other PM on your ballot paper. You only vote in your local MP, and by doing so you help their party into national power. It's then up to the party and it's members to elect their leader.

Does she not have a constituency then? You'd think someone would suss out that she's not an MP. 

Q: Who voted her Leader of the Tory Party and by default, Prime Minister?
A: Nobody