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Post by Lobster on May 30, 2020 8:29:16 GMT
Deaths yesterday across Europe: Spain 2 Italy 87 Germany 24 France 52 Turkey 28 Belgium 42 Sweden 84Portugal 14 Ireland 6 Poland 13 Romania 13 Hungary 8 Netherlands 28 UK ... 324 Apparently we’ve met all the conditions to ease lockdown restrictions. Somebody stop the Tory genocide. Sweden's death rate is insane given their fairly small and sparse population. Surprised a country like that would handle it so badly. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 30, 2020 8:43:17 GMT
So how can we speed it up. Is this your attempt at humour. Deadly serious unfortunately. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 30, 2020 8:43:38 GMT
Deaths yesterday across Europe: Spain 2 Italy 87 Germany 24 France 52 Turkey 28 Belgium 42 Sweden 84Portugal 14 Ireland 6 Poland 13 Romania 13 Hungary 8 Netherlands 28 UK ... 324 Apparently we’ve met all the conditions to ease lockdown restrictions. Somebody stop the Tory genocide. Sweden's death rate is insane given their fairly small and sparse population. Surprised a country like that would handle it so badly. Didn’t lockdown. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 8:44:54 GMT
I agree but if you remember this is one of the countries we should have followed as they were doing so much better than us. With out a vaccine I think between 30 and 50 deaths per day will be the accepted norm and that is not just here
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Post by Ian H Block on May 30, 2020 8:51:25 GMT
I agree but if you remember this is one of the countries we should have followed as they were doing so much better than us. With out a vaccine I think between 30 and 50 deaths per day will be the accepted norm and that is not just here If we ever got to 30 - 50 deaths per day it would be a miracle, given the clowns who are directing operations. |
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Post by Lobster on May 30, 2020 8:55:10 GMT
Sweden's death rate is insane given their fairly small and sparse population. Surprised a country like that would handle it so badly. Didn’t lockdown. I know, just surprised a country like that, that's normally pretty sensible, would handle it like that. |
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Post by Lobster on May 30, 2020 8:57:15 GMT
I agree but if you remember this is one of the countries we should have followed as they were doing so much better than us. With out a vaccine I think between 30 and 50 deaths per day will be the accepted norm and that is not just here Whose said Sweden was a country we should follow? I think their non-lockdown was widely seen as pretty strange. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 9:11:17 GMT
When we first went into lockdown there were plenty of people saying Sweden haven't got lock down and look how well they are doing. First off we had. Why haven't we gone into lockdown, fast forward and its, this lockdown is crap we need to get out of it. Now it's too soon to come out of lockdown. Opinions vary I don't know who is right or wrong but I would not like the job of sorting it.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 9:17:24 GMT
I agree but if you remember this is one of the countries we should have followed as they were doing so much better than us. With out a vaccine I think between 30 and 50 deaths per day will be the accepted norm and that is not just here Whose said Sweden was a country we should follow? I think their non-lockdown was widely seen as pretty strange. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 9:20:56 GMT
The guardian in April did an article on Sweden say their approach may work quite a big article.
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Post by Ian H Block on May 30, 2020 9:24:19 GMT
The guardian in April did an article on Sweden say their approach may work quite a big article. And now in hindsight it’s seen as a disaster, given their death rate. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 9:27:37 GMT
Not denying that. Just saying how opinions differ.
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 30, 2020 9:32:13 GMT
When we first went into lockdown there were plenty of people saying Sweden haven't got lock down and look how well they are doing. First off we had. Why haven't we gone into lockdown, fast forward and its, this lockdown is crap we need to get out of it. Now it's too soon to come out of lockdown. Opinions vary I don't know who is right or wrong but I would not like the job of sorting it. There’s a job of sorting it? Someone should tell Number 10. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on May 30, 2020 9:43:47 GMT
The guardian in April did an article on Sweden say their approach may work quite a big article. And now in hindsight it’s seen as a disaster, given their death rate. Why is it Death Rate is quoted for Sweden but when it comes to the UK its the number of dead is it because the numbers are bigger and whilst our death rate isn't the best it's not the worst either and no I am not trying to do down the number of deaths 1 is too many but as we know we can make figures say what we want too |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 9:51:20 GMT
I've yet to meet the person with hind sight
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 30, 2020 9:53:05 GMT
And now in hindsight it’s seen as a disaster, given their death rate. Why is it Death Rate is quoted for Sweden but when it comes to the UK its the number of dead is it because the numbers are bigger and whilst our death rate isn't the best it's not the worst either and no I am not trying to do down the number of deaths 1 is too many but as we know we can make figures say what we want too No it isn’t the worst, to be fair. It’s the second worst. In the entire world. 194th out of 195. GREAT Britain. |
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Post by Ian H Block on May 30, 2020 9:59:10 GMT
The guardian in April did an article on Sweden say their approach may work quite a big article. I remember the article, and at no point did it say the Swedish approach would work, only that it was an almighty gamble which MAY pay off. Obviously too nuanced for the slack-jawed right wing buffoons who held it up as reason to lift lockdown restrictions. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 10:13:55 GMT
Can you not post without insulting people yes it said the word (may) just like the sage report said (estimate) (possible) (could). You know why they use these words, because they don't really know.
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Post by Ian H Block on May 30, 2020 10:16:36 GMT
Can you not post without insulting people yes it said the word (may) just like the sage report said (estimate) (possible) (could). You know why they use these words, because they don't really know. I think they know now though. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 10:19:11 GMT
Your opinion not necessarily right.
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 30, 2020 10:23:42 GMT
South Korea has closed its schools again after a second spike of cases. They’ve had less than 300 deaths altogether since the start of the outbreak.
We’re opening schools on Monday. 300-400 people are dying every day in the UK.
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 30, 2020 10:36:57 GMT
I know I’ve always said that the right wing press (and the BBC) are just a propaganda arm of the government but it has now emerged that the government are using OUR money to pay the Daily Heil to publish propaganda articles about how brilliantly they’re handling the epidemic.
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Post by Ian H Block on May 30, 2020 10:39:37 GMT
Your opinion not necessarily right. Deaths and death rates aren’t opinions, they are facts. Hardly a nebulous concept. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 10:52:39 GMT
But you used the words (I think) so is that not your opinion. If not (I know) or (I can prove) may be better choice
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Post by Lobster on May 30, 2020 12:03:07 GMT
I've just read that an April 23 Sage meeting predicted that England would only have 1,000 cases a day by mid-May, when in fact we're at the end of May and seeing 8,000 a day.
It feels a lot like the government had decided in advance that they wanted to relieve lockdown in June and are sticking with that even though figures are worse than expected.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 12:55:07 GMT
Can someone point me in the direction to where I can see these 8000 aday infections. Yesterday positive tests were 2094.how are these figures proved without tests. Not looking for arguments.
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 30, 2020 13:04:05 GMT
I've just read that an April 23 Sage meeting predicted that England would only have 1,000 cases a day by mid-May, when in fact we're at the end of May and seeing 8,000 a day. It feels a lot like the government had decided in advance that they wanted to relieve lockdown in June and are sticking with that even though figures are worse than expected. The government followed the science... ... after they told the science in no uncertain terms which way to go. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 13:10:39 GMT
You forgot to add. In My opinion. Because you just made that up.
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 30, 2020 13:19:48 GMT
You forgot to add. In My opinion. Because you just made that up. We gonna do that every time any of us post anywhere on Deva Chat then? |
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Post by Lobster on May 30, 2020 13:30:35 GMT
"That's your opinion" is a terrible comeback. Yes, it's all about opinions, let's take that as a given shall we?
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