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Jun 16, 2020 17:57:12 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 16, 2020 17:57:12 GMT
To be fair even if the pandemic didn't happen, you'd have thought that any committee that dealt with 'Threats' would be essential during these times of terrorist attacks. Indeed. "Hindsight is wonderful" is no excuse. Would you say that if a building burned down because it had no smoke alarms? If they have to scrap essential teams to "focus on Brexit", then Brexit is inoperable as far as I'm concerned. I still think the government should apologise to the nation for a poorly though out referendum that included a promise they couldn't responsibly deliver. Of course, that would require some degree of courage and humility - two qualities they don't have. If labour hadn't blocked the nations wishes for 3 years then Brexit would be done and this nation would be on the up instead of still having to deal with Brexit |
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Post by Lobster on Jun 16, 2020 18:08:39 GMT
Indeed. "Hindsight is wonderful" is no excuse. Would you say that if a building burned down because it had no smoke alarms? If they have to scrap essential teams to "focus on Brexit", then Brexit is inoperable as far as I'm concerned. I still think the government should apologise to the nation for a poorly though out referendum that included a promise they couldn't responsibly deliver. Of course, that would require some degree of courage and humility - two qualities they don't have. If labour hadn't blocked the nations wishes for 3 years then Brexit would be done and this nation would be on the up instead of still having to deal with Brexit Blaming Labour for Brexit seemed tenuous to me all along, and now that the Tories have a majority, any attempt to divert the blame elsewhere is bizarre. As far as I'm concerned, it is now 100% the Conservative Party's responsibility to deliver Brexit successfully, and whether you voted for it or not, I think everybody should be demanding that of them. If they're had to disband other essential teams to "focus" on Brexit, that already is a failing on their part. |
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Jun 16, 2020 18:16:53 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 16, 2020 18:16:53 GMT
If labour hadn't blocked the nations wishes for 3 years then Brexit would be done and this nation would be on the up instead of still having to deal with Brexit Blaming Labour for Brexit seemed tenuous to me all along, and now that the Tories have a majority, any attempt to divert the blame elsewhere is bizarre. As far as I'm concerned, it is now 100% the Conservative Party's responsibility to deliver Brexit successfully, and whether you voted for it or not, I think everybody should be demanding that of them. If they're had to disband other essential teams to "focus" on Brexit, that already is a failing on their part. It’s the Tory way: promise everything, deliver nothing, blame everybody else. Surprised people are still suckered in by this. |
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Jun 16, 2020 18:38:17 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 16, 2020 18:38:17 GMT
If labour hadn't blocked the nations wishes for 3 years then Brexit would be done and this nation would be on the up instead of still having to deal with Brexit Blaming Labour for Brexit seemed tenuous to me all along, and now that the Tories have a majority, any attempt to divert the blame elsewhere is bizarre. As far as I'm concerned, it is now 100% the Conservative Party's responsibility to deliver Brexit successfully, and whether you voted for it or not, I think everybody should be demanding that of them. If they're had to disband other essential teams to "focus" on Brexit, that already is a failing on their part. I'm sorry but it was 100% the British politicians responsibility to deliver Brexit after the referendum but labour blocked it at every opportunity they really did stick 2 fingers up to democracy hence their annihilation at the first opportunity |
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Jun 16, 2020 18:48:48 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 16, 2020 18:48:48 GMT
Indeed. "Hindsight is wonderful" is no excuse. Would you say that if a building burned down because it had no smoke alarms? If they have to scrap essential teams to "focus on Brexit", then Brexit is inoperable as far as I'm concerned. I still think the government should apologise to the nation for a poorly though out referendum that included a promise they couldn't responsibly deliver. Of course, that would require some degree of courage and humility - two qualities they don't have. If labour hadn't blocked the nations wishes for 3 years then Brexit would be done and this nation would be on the up instead of still having to deal with Brexit Poor WUM. Really bad WUM. It’s quite funny actually. |
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Jun 16, 2020 19:25:36 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 16, 2020 19:25:36 GMT
If labour hadn't blocked the nations wishes for 3 years then Brexit would be done and this nation would be on the up instead of still having to deal with Brexit Poor WUM. Really bad WUM. It’s quite funny actually. A poor response that obviously the truth hurts |
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Jun 16, 2020 19:32:27 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 16, 2020 19:32:27 GMT
Poor WUM. Really bad WUM. It’s quite funny actually. A poor response that obviously the truth hurts What did Labour do to block Brexit exactly? They campaigned in 2017 on a respect the referendum result pledge. All they wanted was a good deal, not a catastrophic no deal exit that would utterly destroy our economy. Tories have had a huge majority for months. You won, get over it. |
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Jun 16, 2020 19:50:52 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 16, 2020 19:50:52 GMT
A poor response that obviously the truth hurts What did Labour do to block Brexit exactly? They campaigned in 2017 on a respect the referendum result pledge. All they wanted was a good deal, not a catastrophic no deal exit that would utterly destroy our economy. Tories have had a huge majority for months. You won, get over it. Labour just tried to mitigate the disaster that Tory Brexshit will undoubtedly be. It’s a familiar refrain though; as soon as things get a bit tricky or require a little political finesse, it’s toys out the pram from the overgrown man-children leading the Tory Party. |
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Post by Lobster on Jun 16, 2020 21:45:04 GMT
Blaming Labour for Brexit seemed tenuous to me all along, and now that the Tories have a majority, any attempt to divert the blame elsewhere is bizarre. As far as I'm concerned, it is now 100% the Conservative Party's responsibility to deliver Brexit successfully, and whether you voted for it or not, I think everybody should be demanding that of them. If they're had to disband other essential teams to "focus" on Brexit, that already is a failing on their part. I'm sorry but it was 100% the British politicians responsibility to deliver Brexit after the referendum but labour blocked it at every opportunity they really did stick 2 fingers up to democracy hence their annihilation at the first opportunity I'd tend to agree the ones who just repeatedly whined for a second referendum didn't help the situation, but I think a lot were just concerned at the dumb-as-hell "Brexit means Brexit" crap and didn't believe that a 52% vote meant any old deal, or no deal, would do. Plus it should me remembered that many MPs represent constituencies that voted Remain. I would say their main responsibility is to act in the interests of people who elected them, not to uphold the 52% of a ridiculous nationwide vote that should never have happened. Brexit is the Tories' baby. It was their idea to hold a referendum, it was them who couldn't agree on whether we should stay or go, and it was them who did no risk assessment for leaving. Anyone else's role in it is minimal. Anyway, we've already got a 107-page thread on Brexit so maybe we should move on. I'm sorry I brought it up, but sadly it is relevant to the handling of lockdown and the pandemic. I'm long past caring about Remain/Leave, but now I'm more concerned about what has been/is being neglected as a result of the whole Brexit carry-on. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 17, 2020 6:37:06 GMT
I see Boris Johnson has found that magic money tree again and his VIP RAF jet is going to get a six figure makeover. It’s nice the Tories are remembering the important stuff during this emergency.
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Post by sealandender1 on Jun 17, 2020 11:32:33 GMT
Started watching PMQ about half hour ago and prior to BoJo entering the chamber there were three ‘men in grey suits’ chatting at the entrance to the chamber afacing the Speaker. The three were stood chatting with barely 12” of space between each other; they dispersed to the seats and I noticed that one of them sat on Conservatives front bench. Two minutes later the television camera zoomed around the chamber and clearly showed who the main culprit of the three men was. None other than that slimy Tw•t Hancock. Who the f••k is he to preach to us about the importance of the two metre ruling!!!
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Post by Lobster on Jun 17, 2020 11:54:12 GMT
Started watching PMQ about half hour ago and prior to BoJo entering the chamber there were three ‘men in grey suits’ chatting at the entrance to the chamber afacing the Speaker. The three were stood chatting with barely 12” of space between each other; they dispersed to the seats and I noticed that one of them sat on Conservatives front bench. Two minutes later the television camera zoomed around the chamber and clearly showed who the main culprit of the three men was. None other than that slimy Tw•t Hancock. Who the f••k is he to preach to us about the importance of the two metre ruling!!! I find it beautifully ironic that after Hancock used one of the coronavirus briefings to bizarrely and unfairly call upon Premier League footballers to do more, it's taken a footballer to tell them how to do their jobs! |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jun 17, 2020 12:26:08 GMT
Started watching PMQ about half hour ago and prior to BoJo entering the chamber there were three ‘men in grey suits’ chatting at the entrance to the chamber afacing the Speaker. The three were stood chatting with barely 12” of space between each other; they dispersed to the seats and I noticed that one of them sat on Conservatives front bench. Two minutes later the television camera zoomed around the chamber and clearly showed who the main culprit of the three men was. None other than that slimy Tw•t Hancock. Who the f••k is he to preach to us about the importance of the two metre ruling!!! They think they are untouchable at the very best times - given he's already had the virus, he probably thinks he's some sort of super hero at this point the letchy creep. |
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Post by everhopeful on Jun 18, 2020 1:35:55 GMT
I see Boris Johnson has found that magic money tree again and his VIP RAF jet is going to get a six figure makeover. It’s nice the Tories are remembering the important stuff during this emergency. £900k isn't it? How many school meals would that be I wonder? |
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Jun 18, 2020 5:20:34 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 18, 2020 5:20:34 GMT
The coronavirus pandemic is a reasonably standardised test of state capacity for different countries. Tory Britain is apparently struggling to build a working phone app that others have now had for months. The definition of a failed state.
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Jun 18, 2020 7:52:43 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jun 18, 2020 7:52:43 GMT
According to a report by the Economist Intelligence Unit, only Belgium's response to the pandemic has been worse than ours among developed nations. www.eiu.com/n/quality-of-oecd-countries-response-to-the-pandemic/The report puts us on par with Italy and Spain, but shows some sympathy to those countries because of the speed of its spread, while the UK's poor response is "harder to explain". |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 18, 2020 8:51:52 GMT
According to a report by the Economist Intelligence Unit, only Belgium's response to the pandemic has been worse than ours among developed nations. www.eiu.com/n/quality-of-oecd-countries-response-to-the-pandemic/The report puts us on par with Italy and Spain, but shows some sympathy to those countries because of the speed of its spread, while the UK's poor response is "harder to explain". So Swedens response was better than ours and there response was Herd Immunity |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 18, 2020 9:11:09 GMT
According to a report by the Economist Intelligence Unit, only Belgium's response to the pandemic has been worse than ours among developed nations. www.eiu.com/n/quality-of-oecd-countries-response-to-the-pandemic/The report puts us on par with Italy and Spain, but shows some sympathy to those countries because of the speed of its spread, while the UK's poor response is "harder to explain". So Swedens response was better than ours and there response was Herd Immunity Exactly. Sweden’s response has been better than ours and they did nothing. |
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Post by Lobster on Jun 18, 2020 9:18:25 GMT
According to a report by the Economist Intelligence Unit, only Belgium's response to the pandemic has been worse than ours among developed nations. www.eiu.com/n/quality-of-oecd-countries-response-to-the-pandemic/The report puts us on par with Italy and Spain, but shows some sympathy to those countries because of the speed of its spread, while the UK's poor response is "harder to explain". So Swedens response was better than ours and there response was Herd Immunity So was ours, largely, and we made an even bigger mess of it than they did. Plus they've admitted they got it wrong - no such honesty from our lot. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Jun 18, 2020 12:35:07 GMT
We have a 2 metre social distancing rule in this country, whilst the vast majority of European countries have less than 2 metres.
We have the largest total number of deaths in Europe.
And people are still calling for the 2 metres to be relaxed to 1 metre.Go figure how many more deaths we would have compared to other countries.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 19, 2020 16:06:27 GMT
Another day, another Tory liar exposed. This time it’s Matt Hancock (again) and his bullshit about the contact tracing app. Apparently Apple are yet to hear anything from HM Government, despite Matt telling everyone at yesterday’s Covid briefing that he was having discussions with them.
I doubt little Matt could even piss straight, much like the man running things, Dominic Cummings.
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Jun 20, 2020 7:15:09 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 20, 2020 7:15:09 GMT
Another day, another Tory liar exposed. This time it’s Matt Hancock (again) and his bullshit about the contact tracing app. Apparently Apple are yet to hear anything from HM Government, despite Matt telling everyone at yesterday’s Covid briefing that he was having discussions with them. I doubt little Matt could even piss straight, much like the man running things, Dominic Cummings. So bad isn’t it? Google and Apple literally like “we don’t know what he’s talking about.” Thought Dom’s mate was sorting this app out, what’s happened to all the tax-payer cash he was given? Or is it like the time when that small family-run pest control company with assets of £18,000 was awarded an £108million contract to supply the NHS with PPE in April? If the Tories hadn’t been so absolutely rampantly determined to ensure their mates and donors benefitted from Covid-19, thousands of lives could have been saved. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 20, 2020 9:34:12 GMT
Another day, another Tory liar exposed. This time it’s Matt Hancock (again) and his bullshit about the contact tracing app. Apparently Apple are yet to hear anything from HM Government, despite Matt telling everyone at yesterday’s Covid briefing that he was having discussions with them. I doubt little Matt could even piss straight, much like the man running things, Dominic Cummings. So bad isn’t it? Google and Apple literally like “we don’t know what he’s talking about.” Thought Dom’s mate was sorting this app out, what’s happened to all the tax-payer cash he was given? Or is it like the time when that small family-run pest control company with assets of £18,000 was awarded an £108million contract to supply the NHS with PPE in April? If the Tories hadn’t been so absolutely rampantly determined to ensure their mates and donors benefitted from Covid-19, thousands of lives could have been saved. Is that why they've put covid tracking on everyone's mobile false news again |
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Jun 20, 2020 9:59:42 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 20, 2020 9:59:42 GMT
So bad isn’t it? Google and Apple literally like “we don’t know what he’s talking about.” Thought Dom’s mate was sorting this app out, what’s happened to all the tax-payer cash he was given? Or is it like the time when that small family-run pest control company with assets of £18,000 was awarded an £108million contract to supply the NHS with PPE in April? If the Tories hadn’t been so absolutely rampantly determined to ensure their mates and donors benefitted from Covid-19, thousands of lives could have been saved. Is that why they've put covid tracking on everyone's mobile false news again You’ve misunderstood me. |
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Post by Lobster on Jun 20, 2020 14:05:45 GMT
So bad isn’t it? Google and Apple literally like “we don’t know what he’s talking about.” Thought Dom’s mate was sorting this app out, what’s happened to all the tax-payer cash he was given? Or is it like the time when that small family-run pest control company with assets of £18,000 was awarded an £108million contract to supply the NHS with PPE in April? If the Tories hadn’t been so absolutely rampantly determined to ensure their mates and donors benefitted from Covid-19, thousands of lives could have been saved. Is that why they've put covid tracking on everyone's mobile false news again It's not the same thing, as explained here. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53120290 Still think it's pretty dodgy, and probably illegal, to put this software on every phone without consent, but that's the tech giants for you. |
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Post by everhopeful on Jun 21, 2020 23:49:07 GMT
Is that why they've put covid tracking on everyone's mobile false news again It's not the same thing, as explained here. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53120290 Still think it's pretty dodgy, and probably illegal, to put this software on every phone without consent, but that's the tech giants for you. That link has been taken down by the BBC. Is there any way to get this off your phone? I can't find one. |
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Post by Lobster on Jun 22, 2020 6:49:35 GMT
It's not the same thing, as explained here. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53120290 Still think it's pretty dodgy, and probably illegal, to put this software on every phone without consent, but that's the tech giants for you. That link has been taken down by the BBC. Is there any way to get this off your phone? I can't find one.
Are you on iPhone or Android? Alternatively, I think you can just switch Bluetooth off.
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Jun 23, 2020 10:55:27 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 23, 2020 10:55:27 GMT
There has been a Covid outbreak at a meat factory in Germany, and authorities have immediately introduced a local lockdown to contain the virus.
The same thing happened at a meat factory here last week, and we didn’t even bother informing the locals with a simple text message.
But then the German government aren’t trying to socially cleanse the population.
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Jun 23, 2020 12:30:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 12:30:42 GMT
Is this the chicken factory on Anglesey? The one that has been bussing workers in from the other plant in mancot. I thought we had a 5 mile driving limit in Wales.
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Jun 23, 2020 12:42:06 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 23, 2020 12:42:06 GMT
Is this the chicken factory on Anglesey? The one that has been bussing workers in from the other plant in mancot. I thought we had a 5 mile driving limit in Wales. Surely you didn’t think the driving limit applied to workers? Lol. |
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