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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 25, 2020 11:20:58 GMT
Absolutely nothing. But are you not encouraged by the death rate coming Down. It will only go up when you see unreported Street raves in London with 17 police officers injured and police cars smashed up. Only reported on twitter. We seem to be accepting this kind of behaviour as normal. If people used a bit of common sense life would be so much easier.my daughter had her latest update from Welsh government. She can now meet up with family member at social distance. But you know what she won't because she is frightened to death of catching anything. She is panicking because her husband and 20 year old daughter are going back to work next week and 16 year old son wants to meet his girl friend. They have barely left the house since March. How many people did Dominic Cummings infect driving up and down the M1 whilst highly contagious? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 11:23:21 GMT
Stop nit picking you don't have to agree with me. Negative posts are exactly the type of posts that prevent my daughter from leaving home a little bit of positivety never hurt anybody.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 25, 2020 11:26:32 GMT
Stop nit picking you don't have to agree with me. Negative posts are exactly the type of posts that prevent my daughter from leaving home a little bit of positivety never hurt anybody. Tell her to get off Deva Chat then. It’s hardly a sea of positivity at the best of times. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 11:37:45 GMT
That's rather harsh she has been a Chester supporter for 30 years her daughter was the first mascot of the reformed club when we played Trafford. She has been unable to attend games since she had cancer. But still contributes in any way she can.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 25, 2020 12:19:24 GMT
That's rather harsh she has been a Chester supporter for 30 years her daughter was the first mascot of the reformed club when we played Trafford. She has been unable to attend games since she had cancer. But still contributes in any way she can. Good for her and hope she’s okay, but I can hardly be blamed for her very genuine concerns. If this Tory Government had tackled the crisis with anything approaching competence I am certain most people would be feeling a bit more relaxed moving forward. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 12:37:33 GMT
Thanks for the kind words. I am pleased the tory government financed the NHS enough for to have 3 major operations plus nuclear therapy and monthly injections at £800 a go. So we can not complain.as I say you treat it as you find it. She has had incredible treatment at qe Birmingham Wrexham Maelor clatter bridge Broad green and Liverpool university hospital.and not forgetting arrow Park.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 25, 2020 13:02:39 GMT
Thanks for the kind words. I am pleased the tory government financed the NHS enough for to have 3 major operations plus nuclear therapy and monthly injections at £800 a go. So we can not complain.as I say you treat it as you find it. She has had incredible treatment at qe Birmingham Wrexham Maelor clatter bridge Broad green and Liverpool university hospital.and not forgetting arrow Park. Aye, the NHS is still a fantastic institution despite the best efforts of the Tories. An absolute shining example of the power of socialist endeavour and collective effort. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 13:14:44 GMT
It's better than fantastic. My eldest daughter had an op recently it had been cancelled because of covid. Fortunately she had the op in the Nuffield so again no complaints from us
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 25, 2020 14:21:17 GMT
Thanks for the kind words. I am pleased the tory government financed the NHS enough for to have 3 major operations plus nuclear therapy and monthly injections at £800 a go. So we can not complain.as I say you treat it as you find it. She has had incredible treatment at qe Birmingham Wrexham Maelor clatter bridge Broad green and Liverpool university hospital.and not forgetting arrow Park. Aye, the NHS is still a fantastic institution despite the best efforts of the Tories. An absolute shining example of the power of socialist endeavour and collective effort. I don't think anyone can criticise our wonderful NHS which has always come up trumps whenever me or my Family have ever needed it (not too often thankfully) and yes its the best thing Labour have ever done which is easy to decide as its the only example of the power of socialist endeavour and collective effort which has been any good. |
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Post by luke90 on Jun 25, 2020 14:21:44 GMT
Absolutely nothing. But are you not encouraged by the death rate coming Down. It will only go up when you see unreported Street raves in London with 17 police officers injured and police cars smashed up. Only reported on twitter. We seem to be accepting this kind of behaviour as normal. If people used a bit of common sense life would be so much easier.my daughter had her latest update from Welsh government. She can now meet up with family member at social distance. But you know what she won't because she is frightened to death of catching anything. She is panicking because her husband and 20 year old daughter are going back to work next week and 16 year old son wants to meet his girl friend. They have barely left the house since March. How many people did Dominic Cummings infect driving up and down the M1 whilst highly contagious? Inside a car? Probably no one  . |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 25, 2020 14:22:53 GMT
Yesterday's Coronavirus deaths:
Germany - 0
Belgium - 9
Netherlands - 2
Portugal - 3
Switzerland - 2
Austria - 0
Denmark - 0
UK - 152
Another 149 today. Absolutely tragic we have these idiots running things. It could, and should, have been so different.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 25, 2020 14:25:40 GMT
How many people did Dominic Cummings infect driving up and down the M1 whilst highly contagious? Inside a car? Probably no one . That’s right, because his car runs on fresh air and his 6 year old kid has a bladder the size of a beach ball. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 25, 2020 14:54:52 GMT
Aye, the NHS is still a fantastic institution despite the best efforts of the Tories. An absolute shining example of the power of socialist endeavour and collective effort. I don't think anyone can criticise our wonderful NHS which has always come up trumps whenever me or my Family have ever needed it (not too often thankfully) and yes its the best thing Labour have ever done which is easy to decide as its the only example of the power of socialist endeavour and collective effort which has been any good. Council house building? Welfare for those that need it? Which examples have been bad then? |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 25, 2020 15:13:10 GMT
Add to that the Minimum Wage, Good Friday Agreement, Health and Safety at Work Act, National Parks, Open University, etc., etc., the list is very long.
If any of the Tory Boys would like to list all the things the Conservatives have done to help ordinary people, it would be most helpful.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 25, 2020 15:27:33 GMT
I don't think anyone can criticise our wonderful NHS which has always come up trumps whenever me or my Family have ever needed it (not too often thankfully) and yes its the best thing Labour have ever done which is easy to decide as its the only example of the power of socialist endeavour and collective effort which has been any good. Council house building? Welfare for those that need it? Which examples have been bad then? Council house building? Started by David Lloyd George’s Liberal government’s Housing Act of 1919 Welfare for those that need it? Started December 1911 National Insurance Act provides cover against sickness and unemployment Chancellor of the Exchequer David Lloyd George devised a contributory scheme of health insurance for those in employment, which provided payment for medical treatment. Grafted on to the act was a limited plan for unemployment benefit drawn up by Winston Churchill. With this legislation, the Liberals laid the foundations of the Welfare State.
So those 2 examples aren't very good as they were both the brainchild of the Liberals aided by the Conservatives |
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Jun 25, 2020 15:28:55 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jun 25, 2020 15:28:55 GMT
Strictly speaking, the NHS was proposed by a Tory MP. It was Clemont Attlee's Labour that adopted it though.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 25, 2020 16:00:59 GMT
Council house building? Welfare for those that need it? Which examples have been bad then? Council house building? Started by David Lloyd George’s Liberal government’s Housing Act of 1919 Welfare for those that need it? Started December 1911 National Insurance Act provides cover against sickness and unemployment Chancellor of the Exchequer David Lloyd George devised a contributory scheme of health insurance for those in employment, which provided payment for medical treatment. Grafted on to the act was a limited plan for unemployment benefit drawn up by Winston Churchill. With this legislation, the Liberals laid the foundations of the Welfare State.
So those 2 examples aren't very good as they were both the brainchild of the Liberals aided by the Conservatives Have you been a-cutting and a-pasting again, young man? As for the National Insurance Act 1911, I believe it only provided limited cover, and then only for wage-earners, not their families or the unemployed. As for Hitler- enthusiast Lloyd-George’s ‘Homes for Heroes’, they never really addressed the housing needs of the poorest and rents were set artificially high to make them exclusive to the upper working class / lower middle class demographic. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 25, 2020 18:32:56 GMT
Council house building? Started by David Lloyd George’s Liberal government’s Housing Act of 1919 Welfare for those that need it? Started December 1911 National Insurance Act provides cover against sickness and unemployment Chancellor of the Exchequer David Lloyd George devised a contributory scheme of health insurance for those in employment, which provided payment for medical treatment. Grafted on to the act was a limited plan for unemployment benefit drawn up by Winston Churchill. With this legislation, the Liberals laid the foundations of the Welfare State.
So those 2 examples aren't very good as they were both the brainchild of the Liberals aided by the Conservatives Have you been a-cutting and a-pasting again, young man? As for the National Insurance Act 1911, I believe it only provided limited cover, and then only for wage-earners, not their families or the unemployed. As for Hitler- enthusiast Lloyd-George’s ‘Homes for Heroes’, they never really addressed the housing needs of the poorest and rents were set artificially high to make them exclusive to the upper working class / lower middle class demographic. A bit of cutting and pasting well yes its easier but the fact still remains that they were not Labour ideas or an example of the power of socialist endeavour and collective effort. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 26, 2020 8:43:23 GMT
I suspect you can expect a surge in deaths in about 3 weeks time due to peoples absolute stupidity yesterday thousands of people on beaches thousands of Liverpool supporters outside the ground illegal street parties. Doesn't our population have any brains at all restrictions have been relaxed to allow people a bit more freedom they have not been removed and social distancing is still in place. No Government in the world could deal with the idiotic people we have living in this country
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Jun 26, 2020 8:58:25 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 26, 2020 8:58:25 GMT
I suspect you can expect a surge in deaths in about 3 weeks time due to peoples absolute stupidity yesterday thousands of people on beaches thousands of Liverpool supporters outside the ground illegal street parties. Doesn't our population have any brains at all restrictions have been relaxed to allow people a bit more freedom they have not been removed and social distancing is still in place. No Government in the world could deal with the idiotic people we have living in this country Government have relaxed restrictions - it is what it is. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 26, 2020 8:58:55 GMT
Cut and pasted from Facebook I think it's very apt
BREAKING NEWS
A new virus which is spreading a hundred times quicker then Coronavirus has been discovered, the imasthickasshit virus affects people’s ability to social distance properly, people with the imasthickasshit virus will go out to parks and beauty spots in their droves with no worries about spreading the Coronavirus. Doctors think that Coronavirus and imasthickasshit virus could be connected, but are worried by the speed imasthickasshit virus is spreading, if you see a group of people drinking tinnies in a public area please keep well clear, stay safe my friends
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 26, 2020 9:02:43 GMT
I suspect you can expect a surge in deaths in about 3 weeks time due to peoples absolute stupidity yesterday thousands of people on beaches thousands of Liverpool supporters outside the ground illegal street parties. Doesn't our population have any brains at all restrictions have been relaxed to allow people a bit more freedom they have not been removed and social distancing is still in place. No Government in the world could deal with the idiotic people we have living in this country Well with that attitude lets all say bollox to it then and let's all go out and spread this vile virus and who cares who we kill, I don't think so people have a duty and responsibility you haven't seen anything like this in hot countries like Spain and Italy |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 26, 2020 9:22:40 GMT
I suspect you can expect a surge in deaths in about 3 weeks time due to peoples absolute stupidity yesterday thousands of people on beaches thousands of Liverpool supporters outside the ground illegal street parties. Doesn't our population have any brains at all restrictions have been relaxed to allow people a bit more freedom they have not been removed and social distancing is still in place. No Government in the world could deal with the idiotic people we have living in this country I find I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the U.K. population and then I remember 17.4 million voted Brexshit and then just handed the Tories an 80 seat majority, so recent scenes should come as no surprise. |
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Jun 26, 2020 9:28:49 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 26, 2020 9:28:49 GMT
Government have relaxed restrictions - it is what it is. Well with that attitude lets all say bollox to it then and let's all go out and spread this vile virus and who cares who we kill, I don't think so people have a duty and responsibility you haven't seen anything like this in hot countries like Spain and Italy Well that is what the government are hoping for to be fair. Remember, people have a civic duty and responsibility to go to the pub and get the economy moving for the billionaires. |
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Post by Lobster on Jun 26, 2020 9:30:23 GMT
There is a link between the behaviour of people and their governments, and both feed off each other. Our people have decided to elect this ridiculous government, and in turn the behaviour of the government (e.g. defending Dominic Cummings' simply inexcusable behaviour) rubs off on the "monkey see, monkey do" elements of our society.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 26, 2020 9:31:09 GMT
I suspect you can expect a surge in deaths in about 3 weeks time due to peoples absolute stupidity yesterday thousands of people on beaches thousands of Liverpool supporters outside the ground illegal street parties. Doesn't our population have any brains at all restrictions have been relaxed to allow people a bit more freedom they have not been removed and social distancing is still in place. No Government in the world could deal with the idiotic people we have living in this country I find I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the U.K. population and then I remember 17.4 million voted Brexshit and then just handed the Tories an 80 seat majority, so recent scenes should come as no surprise. If the previous MPs had got their act together Brexit would not have been an issue but IMO it was more this country didn't want corbyn/abbot running this country |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 26, 2020 9:33:49 GMT
Well with that attitude lets all say bollox to it then and let's all go out and spread this vile virus and who cares who we kill, I don't think so people have a duty and responsibility you haven't seen anything like this in hot countries like Spain and Italy Well that is what the government are hoping for to be fair. Remember, people have a civic duty and responsibility to go to the pub and get the economy moving for the billionaires.Does that include the billionaires that fund the Labour party or are they exempt from your vitriol |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 26, 2020 9:38:46 GMT
There is a link between the behaviour of people and their governments, and both feed off each other. Our people have decided to elect this ridiculous government, and in turn the behaviour of the government (e.g. defending Dominic Cummings' simply inexcusable behaviour) rubs off on the "monkey see, monkey do" elements of our society. Defending Dominic Cummings was inexcusable and you have to give Starmer his due in dealing with Long-Bailey but that does not give people the green light to behave like absolute idiots. My Dad used to say to me if I put my hand in the fire will you? No is the answer |
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Post by Lobster on Jun 26, 2020 9:41:59 GMT
I find I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the U.K. population and then I remember 17.4 million voted Brexshit and then just handed the Tories an 80 seat majority, so recent scenes should come as no surprise. If the previous MPs had got their act together Brexit would not have been an issue but IMO it was more this country didn't want corbyn/abbot running this country Brexit will always be an issue, and the Conservatives have to take responsibilty for that with the way they orchestrated it, and now should be ENTIRELY made responsible for how they deliver it. The most ugly and divisive political tool I've ever known in the UK, and one that's sent the country right back into the dark ages.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 26, 2020 9:42:57 GMT
Well that is what the government are hoping for to be fair. Remember, people have a civic duty and responsibility to go to the pub and get the economy moving for the billionaires.Does that include the billionaires that fund the Labour party or are they exempt from your vitriol Which billionaires would these be? Unite the Union is Labour’s biggest donor. |
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