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Post by Lobster on Jul 2, 2020 9:51:39 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 2, 2020 10:56:37 GMT
Why should they be surely consultation would be with medical staff and all interested parties informed as necessary |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 2, 2020 11:01:51 GMT
Why should they be surely consultation would be with medical staff and all interested parties informed as necessary Courtesy? Not a common Tory trait, I know. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 2, 2020 11:07:09 GMT
Why should they be surely consultation would be with medical staff and all interested parties informed as necessary Not a common trait amongst MPs generally irrespective of allegiance and I'm sure there would have been cross-party discussions in any case |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 3, 2020 16:07:04 GMT
155 dead yesterday, 137 today. and the Tories are opening the pubs. Absolute insanity.
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Post by delamereal on Jul 3, 2020 16:48:31 GMT
155 dead yesterday, 137 today. and the Tories are opening the pubs. Absolute insanity. It was actually 89 dead yesterday if you check the figures, which are the lowest totals for Thursdays and Fridays since the pandemic began. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 3, 2020 17:50:57 GMT
155 dead yesterday, 137 today. and the Tories are opening the pubs. Absolute insanity. It was actually 89 dead yesterday if you check the figures, which are the lowest totals for Thursdays and Fridays since the pandemic began. Yeah sorry, it was 155 on Tuesday, couldn’t read properly. Not sure how that compares with other Tuesdays but I’m sure you’ll tell me. 176 on Wednesday this week, which will undoubtedly cheer the Tory Death Cult apologists. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 3, 2020 18:42:15 GMT
155 dead yesterday, 137 today. and the Tories are opening the pubs. Absolute insanity. It was actually 89 dead yesterday if you check the figures, which are the lowest totals for Thursdays and Fridays since the pandemic began. So it’s gone up today then? And they’re opening the pubs tomorrow. Criminals. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 3, 2020 18:50:45 GMT
It was actually 89 dead yesterday if you check the figures, which are the lowest totals for Thursdays and Fridays since the pandemic began. So it’s gone up today then? And they’re opening the pubs tomorrow. Criminals. R number (remember that was key to everything a few weeks ago) is now above 1 in London, yet the pubs are opening at 6am tomorrow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 18:53:49 GMT
they are acctually coming down 137 compared to 186 last friday.we all want no deaths but it is going in the right direction.i agree about pubs opening they should not open untill the virus is gone completeiy no matter how long it takes.
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Post by delamereal on Jul 4, 2020 11:18:08 GMT
So it’s gone up today then? And they’re opening the pubs tomorrow. Criminals. is now above 1 in London, yet the pubs are opening at 6am tomorrow. It is strange how that was the main thing to go by a month or so ago and now it's rarely mentioned. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 4, 2020 11:38:02 GMT
R number (remember that was key to everything a few weeks ago) is now above 1 in London, yet the pubs are opening at 6am tomorrow. It is strange how that was the main thing to go by a month or so ago and now it's rarely mentioned. Because it’s bad. Remember the comparisons with other nations were suddenly not relevant anymore when we became the worst in Europe and second in the world. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 12:31:49 GMT
I was looking on the statistics website yesterday. The r number was between. 6 and. 8 everywhere in the UK bar a part of london where it was between. 8 and 1.1. The reasons given were as in other countries flair ups increase the r number due to the amount of testing. Germany was as high as 3 in one area quite recently. Now that is what I read. so don't shoot the messenger.
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Post by delamereal on Jul 4, 2020 12:32:11 GMT
It is strange how that was the main thing to go by a month or so ago and now it's rarely mentioned. Because it’s bad. Remember the comparisons with other nations were suddenly not relevant anymore when we became the worst in Europe and second in the world. It wasn't a question, just a statement. |
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Post by cheshireblue on Jul 4, 2020 20:51:55 GMT
Anybody referring to today as “Super Saturday” on the back of 45,000 deaths, is quite frankly abhorrent.
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Post by arthuro on Jul 5, 2020 11:00:58 GMT
The scenes from London last night are frankly embarrassing.
What a kick in the teeth to the surgeons, nurses and medical staff who’ve given everything over the past three to four months.
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Post by lincolnexile on Jul 5, 2020 12:36:05 GMT
The scenes from London last night are frankly embarrassing. What a kick in the teeth to the surgeons, nurses and medical staff who’ve given everything over the past three to four months. Are you surprised when the head of the government says it’s everyone’s patriotic duty to go to the pub. |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 5, 2020 12:58:29 GMT
The whole pub thing is both a distraction from how awfully they're handling the pandemic, and a ready-made excuse for the inevitable second wave.
Fancy reopening pubs on a Saturday. It's at best idiotic, but I suspect it's strategic.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 5, 2020 13:04:19 GMT
The whole pub thing is both a distraction from how awfully they're handling the pandemic, and a ready-made excuse for the inevitable second wave. Fancy reopening pubs on a Saturday. It's at best idiotic, but I suspect it's strategic. Agree, it’s ready-made to blame the general public. The same morning they opened the pubs up, Number 10 posted a (now deleted) tweet asking the public to remember that two people from different households can only meet outdoors “whatever the weather.” They haven’t got a bloody clue. |
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Post by Mean Machine on Jul 5, 2020 13:42:09 GMT
To put some perspective on the numbers
165,000 cancer deaths in the uk per annum
amongst those 77,900 due to smoking
7,551 due to alcohol
Deaths last year on uk roads 1825 an average of 5 per day
On a worldwide level
Malaria accounts for 405,000 deaths per year, mostly children in sub saharan Africa,
Deaths from snakebites alone account for around 125,000 deaths per year
These statistics I have taken from sources on the internet ONS, NHS, WHO websites
Many of these deaths are easily preventable Malaria in particular, however I dont see anybody on here endlessly moaning on trying to score pointless political points and blaming capitalist governments for murdering any of these people
I wonder why?
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jul 5, 2020 13:54:12 GMT
To put some perspective on the numbers 165,000 cancer deaths in the uk per annum amongst those 77,900 due to smoking 7,551 due to alcohol Deaths last year on uk roads 1825 an average of 5 per day On a worldwide level Malaria accounts for 405,000 deaths per year, mostly children in sub saharan Africa, Deaths from snakebites alone account for around 125,000 deaths per year These statistics I have taken from sources on the internet ONS, NHS, WHO websites Many of these deaths are easily preventable Malaria in particular, however I dont see anybody on here endlessly moaning on trying to score pointless political points and blaming capitalist governments for murdering any of these people I wonder why? You are more than welcome to start threads on snakebites or smoking deaths as opposed to trying to hijack a thread about coronavirus with your whataboutery and apologism. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 5, 2020 15:52:18 GMT
To put some perspective on the numbers 165,000 cancer deaths in the uk per annum amongst those 77,900 due to smoking 7,551 due to alcohol Deaths last year on uk roads 1825 an average of 5 per day On a worldwide level Malaria accounts for 405,000 deaths per year, mostly children in sub saharan Africa, Deaths from snakebites alone account for around 125,000 deaths per year These statistics I have taken from sources on the internet ONS, NHS, WHO websites Many of these deaths are easily preventable Malaria in particular, however I dont see anybody on here endlessly moaning on trying to score pointless political points and blaming capitalist governments for murdering any of these people I wonder why? Nobody is blaming Capitalism my friend. However the cabal of incompetents running the show are culpable for the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of people. How people can defend them is astonishing, as the evidence of their murderous ineptitude is there for all to see. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 6, 2020 14:46:28 GMT
The whole pub thing is both a distraction from how awfully they're handling the pandemic, and a ready-made excuse for the inevitable second wave. Fancy reopening pubs on a Saturday. It's at best idiotic, but I suspect it's strategic. Agree, it’s ready-made to blame the general public. The same morning they opened the pubs up, Number 10 posted a (now deleted) tweet asking the public to remember that two people from different households can only meet outdoors “whatever the weather.” They haven’t got a bloody clue. Kier Starmer has today given his backing to the easing of restrictions including opening the pubs so does that mean that labour hasn't got a clue either |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 6, 2020 14:52:39 GMT
Agree, it’s ready-made to blame the general public. The same morning they opened the pubs up, Number 10 posted a (now deleted) tweet asking the public to remember that two people from different households can only meet outdoors “whatever the weather.” They haven’t got a bloody clue. Kier Starmer has today given his backing to the easing of restrictions including opening the pubs so does that mean that labour hasn't got a clue either Well I was specifically referring to the mixed contradictory messages coming out of the government who actually run the country but to answer your question, yes Starmer is clueless. He’s getting himself wrapped up in Israel’s web and contradicting himself with double standards because of it. Mans a joke. |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 6, 2020 16:48:04 GMT
I don't warm to Starmer at all. I will still probably vote Labour next election as I like my MP and realistically it's the only chance of getting the Tories out.
I think Labour's best hope of winning an election would be to have someone like Liam Gallagher as leader. Some slightly cocky, obnoxious Northerner off a council estate who just shouts and swears at Tories. Ridiculous but it's how politics is at the moment.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 7, 2020 11:38:12 GMT
So now it’s the fault of the care homes?
This government is scum.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 7, 2020 16:28:59 GMT
I see Bolsanero has joined our PM in a select group of world leaders who have given themselves the virus, largely through their own pig-headedness and stupidity. Still time for the great tangerine tit to complete the trilogy.
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Post by lincolnexile on Jul 7, 2020 16:40:14 GMT
What I don’t understand is that all along we have been told that we’re 2-3 weeks behind Spain regarding the virus. 3 weeks ago Spain had deaths in low single figures yet we’ve had over 150 deaths again today. What’s going on? Why are we opening everything up when the virus is so obviously not under control? The figures are going to rise it’ inevitable but it won’t be a second wave because how can you have a second phase when you don’t finish the first?
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 7, 2020 17:18:31 GMT
What I don’t understand is that all along we have been told that we’re 2-3 weeks behind Spain regarding the virus. 3 weeks ago Spain had deaths in low single figures yet we’ve had over 150 deaths again today. What’s going on? Why are we opening everything up when the virus is so obviously not under control? The figures are going to rise it’ inevitable but it won’t be a second wave because how can you have a second phase when you don’t finish the first? Not too difficult to understand when you remember we have the worst Government ever running the show. Their murderous incompetence is truly astounding and it’s clear they’d sooner turn a dirty dollar for themselves and their sponsors than save lives. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jul 7, 2020 18:03:24 GMT
What I don’t understand is that all along we have been told that we’re 2-3 weeks behind Spain regarding the virus. 3 weeks ago Spain had deaths in low single figures yet we’ve had over 150 deaths again today. What’s going on? Why are we opening everything up when the virus is so obviously not under control? The figures are going to rise it’ inevitable but it won’t be a second wave because how can you have a second phase when you don’t finish the first? Oh but remember: can't make comparisons, other countries make up their data, not all settings, POPULATION DENSITY, black lives matter etc. etc. etc. Just thought I'd pre-empt the death-cult bootlicker brigade before they get here. |
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