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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 18, 2020 12:09:49 GMT
It’s also hypocrisy, ignorance and a monumental lack of self-awareness. Yep would agree with that |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 18, 2020 12:12:23 GMT
To be honest, I would probably agree that the far-left and far-right are as bad as each other. The problem is that the real far-left in this country (and many others) is so marginal as to be all but insignificant. Meanwhile, the far-right get elected. IMO the real far right is insignificant as well they just seem to get more publicity for some reason |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 18, 2020 12:15:52 GMT
To be honest, I would probably agree that the far-left and far-right are as bad as each other. The problem is that the real far-left in this country (and many others) is so marginal as to be all but insignificant. Meanwhile, the far-right get elected. IMO the real far right is insignificant as well they just seem to get more publicity for some reason Yeah, probably because they are running the country. |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 18, 2020 12:18:53 GMT
To be honest, I would probably agree that the far-left and far-right are as bad as each other. The problem is that the real far-left in this country (and many others) is so marginal as to be all but insignificant. Meanwhile, the far-right get elected. IMO the real far right is insignificant as well they just seem to get more publicity for some reason Disagree, the far-right is normalised here. The Tory party right now is about as right-wing as it gets. This independent website agrees. www.politicalcompass.org/uk2019 |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 18, 2020 12:23:07 GMT
Yes the present government is right wing but its hardly the extremists we were talking about
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 18, 2020 13:03:08 GMT
Booting out black people to countries they’ve never set foot in before. Pretty sure that’s a small facet of far right extremism.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 18, 2020 16:46:47 GMT
Yes the present government is right wing but its hardly the extremists we were talking about They're not as overt as the extremists, but I think the mentality is much the same. Paul Golding was encouraging his followers to vote Tory and tried to join the party, which says a lot. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jul 18, 2020 17:00:25 GMT
So are you saying WW2 was wrong and we should not have fought Nazism and allowed them to run amok through Europe and the rest of the world, also if you opposed Hitler in the 30s you would most likely end up dead. The far right in this country are no better than the Nazis of the 30s and there is no way should we let them have any control in this country the far left are no better infiltrating the peaceful Black Lives Matter protests and turning them into near riots therefore reducing the effect of what is a legitimate protest. I dont know your age D C but my father fought during WW2 and my Uncle was killed in Singapore assumedly you have ancestors involved in the conflict so lets not undermine what was achieved back then I could be wrong but I think he’s saying it’s a shame we fought the Nazis 80 years ago to have post-War children now holding the views that would’ve passed as the norm in Nazi Germany. Precisely. Also to my knowledge, there is absolutely no basis for the claim that the far-left 'infiltrated' the Black Lives Matter movement. Pretty sure this was said by Donald Trump in order to delegitimise the concerns of black people. Sad to see WB doing the same. And who is this far-left you talk of? What do you define as far-left? Presumably you would include Communism? Probably worth mentioning here that if it wasn't for the Soviet Union, we'd be having this conversation in German. Much as people would like to think it was Britain alone that won the Second World War, that evidently wasn't the case. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 18, 2020 20:02:42 GMT
I could be wrong but I think he’s saying it’s a shame we fought the Nazis 80 years ago to have post-War children now holding the views that would’ve passed as the norm in Nazi Germany. Precisely. Also to my knowledge, there is absolutely no basis for the claim that the far-left 'infiltrated' the Black Lives Matter movement. Pretty sure this was said by Donald Trump in order to delegitimise the concerns of black people. Sad to see WB doing the same. And who is this far-left you talk of? What do you define as far-left? Presumably you would include Communism? Probably worth mentioning here that if it wasn't for the Soviet Union, we'd be having this conversation in German. Much as people would like to think it was Britain alone that won the Second World War, that evidently wasn't the case. Remind me why did the communists fight with us |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Jul 18, 2020 21:23:44 GMT
Yes the present government is right wing but its hardly the extremists we were talking about Unless you discount the PM likening Muslim women to letterboxes and black peoples watermelon smiles, then yes hardly worth mentioning |
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Post by everhopeful on Jul 19, 2020 0:09:01 GMT
Who were the companies that were not allowed to tender? Why are you liking your own posts?? |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 19, 2020 6:51:18 GMT
The views of the far right are definitely further spread in this country than the “extreme left” (whatever that is?). For example, I am a member of a Facebook group called “Old Photographs of British Life” and it is absolutely full of racist comments which I challenge on a daily basis. I guess I should’ve known better as any page with “British” in the title seems to attract the Neanderthals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 7:12:13 GMT
Because I like them is it a problem
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 9:15:32 GMT
Guys, this has now turned into an argument about a Facebook group you both happen to be in.
Can you please keep it to private messages if you want to continue this, or start a new thread if you must. I know the topic can change mid-thread but this is a bit ridiculous!
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 19, 2020 10:19:14 GMT
This is staggering WHO reports
The World Health Organization reported a record increase in global coronavirus cases for the second day in a row, with the total rising by 259,848 in 24 hours.
The biggest increases reported on Saturday were from the United States, Brazil, India and South Africa, according to a daily report. The previous WHO record for new cases was 237,743 on Friday. Deaths rose by 7,360, the biggest one-day increase since May 10. Deaths have been averaging 4,800 a day in July, up slightly from an average of 4,600 a day in June.
Total global coronavirus cases surpassed 14 million on Friday, according to a Reuters tally, marking another milestone in the spread of the disease that has killed nearly 600,000 people in seven months. The surge means that 1 million cases were reported in under 100 hours.
The WHO reported 71,484 new cases in the United States, 45,403 in Brazil, 34,884 in India and 13,373 in South Africa.
India on Friday became the third country in the world to record more than 1 million cases of the new coronavirus, behind only the United States and Brazil. Epidemiologists say India is still likely months from hitting its peak.
Cases in Brazil crossed the 2 million mark on Thursday, doubling in less than a month and adding nearly 40,000 new cases a day. A patchwork of state and city responses has held up poorly in Brazil in the absence of a tightly coordinated policy from the federal government.
The United States, which leads with world with over 3.7 million cases, has also tried to curb the outbreak at the state and local levels with only limited success.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 19, 2020 10:34:09 GMT
Interesting, three of those four states are governed by populist right-wing Charlatans like us.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 19, 2020 10:41:32 GMT
Maybe countries run by left wing charlatans are hiding true figures
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 19, 2020 10:43:29 GMT
Maybe countries run by left wing charlatans are hiding true figures Ah I see you’ve managed to find a spare tin foil hat. I had thought they had ran out earlier in the thread. |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 11:08:24 GMT
Bolsanero is overtly wicked and Trump is overtly insane. Worrying,I don't think our government is that different, they're just a little bit better at masking it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 11:34:01 GMT
I've been to some rally nice parts of brazil but what sticks in my mind is the difference in peoples lives .we stayed in rio one time hotel on copa cababana beach front .very affluent.the next street back was definitely down market .a little further back absolute slums and poverty .took some believing.i dont think many had a great chance.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 19, 2020 11:35:13 GMT
I've been to some rally nice parts of brazil but what sticks in my mind is the difference in peoples lives .we stayed in rio one time hotel on copa cababana beach front .very affluent.the next street back was definitely down market .a little further back absolute slums and poverty .took some believing.i dont think many had a great chance. Sort of like the U.K. now then? |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 11:38:09 GMT
Yeah, makes me think of Birkenhead and Oxton.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 11:53:32 GMT
and still they risk their lives to come
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 19, 2020 11:57:50 GMT
and still they risk their lives to come Not heard of many Brazilians in rubber dinghies off the Kent coast. Perhaps you can share a link from the ‘Photographs of (white) British Life’ Fakebook page. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 19, 2020 12:11:34 GMT
Maybe countries run by left wing charlatans are hiding true figures Which countries? Which 'left-wing charlatans'? And where is the evidence they are hiding their figures? Thanks in advance well lets start with Russia well known for their honesty and openess |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 12:19:22 GMT
Ah, that raging leftie Vladimir Putin.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 19, 2020 12:23:52 GMT
Which countries? Which 'left-wing charlatans'? And where is the evidence they are hiding their figures? Thanks in advance well lets start with Russia well known for their honesty and openess If Russia is left wing how come they keep throwing money at the Tory Party? |
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Post by delamereal on Jul 19, 2020 13:13:10 GMT
Which countries? Which 'left-wing charlatans'? And where is the evidence they are hiding their figures? Thanks in advance Add China to that. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jul 19, 2020 13:34:52 GMT
Which countries? Which 'left-wing charlatans'? And where is the evidence they are hiding their figures? Thanks in advance well lets start with Russia well known for their honesty and openess Credit must be given for being quite so committed to embarrassing yourself this relentlessly. |
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Post by everhopeful on Jul 20, 2020 2:31:51 GMT
Because I like them is it a problem Self-praise is no recommendation!! |
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