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Jul 20, 2020 6:21:09 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 20, 2020 6:21:09 GMT
The Health Secretary Matt Hancock is under renewed pressure to explain why the Cheltenham Festival was allowed to go ahead after it was revealed he had received £350,000 in political donations from wealthy figures in horse racing.
Mans a bona fide criminal.
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Post by jb on Jul 20, 2020 14:46:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 16:27:27 GMT
Don't know if my age will bar me but put my name down could be the game changer everyone is waiting for.
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Jul 20, 2020 17:08:34 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jul 20, 2020 17:08:34 GMT
Sounds like a very welcome bit of positive news.
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Jul 20, 2020 17:16:07 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 20, 2020 17:16:07 GMT
Sounds like a very welcome bit of positive news. Looks like we haven’t had enough of experts after all... |
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Jul 20, 2020 21:16:44 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jul 20, 2020 21:16:44 GMT
It will be quite a traumatic event for a few of this thread's more notorious contributors if UK researchers do get there first but yes, really encouraging. |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 20, 2020 21:19:42 GMT
It will be quite a traumatic event for a few of this thread's more notorious contributors if UK researchers do get there first but yes, really encouraging. Not really. Our scientists are fantastic, our government is hopeless. |
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Jul 20, 2020 21:24:59 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 20, 2020 21:24:59 GMT
It will be quite a traumatic event for a few of this thread's more notorious contributors if UK researchers do get there first but yes, really encouraging. What a bizarre thing to say. Genuinely gobsmacked at that one. |
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Jul 20, 2020 22:46:54 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 20, 2020 22:46:54 GMT
It will be quite a traumatic event for a few of this thread's more notorious contributors if UK researchers do get there first but yes, really encouraging. What a strange comment. |
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Post by jb on Jul 21, 2020 8:39:04 GMT
From "New Scientist":
A new nebuliser treatment for covid-19 reduced the risk of severe cases requiring a ventilator by 79 per cent in a preliminary trial of 101 patients in the UK. The treatment involves inhaling a protein called interferon beta, which is naturally produced in the body as part of the immune response to a viral infection. In the double-blind trial, half of the participants were given the protein and half were given a placebo. Those who received the drug were two to three times more likely to recover sufficiently to resume their everyday activities, according to Synairgen, the company behind the treatment. The coronavirus blocks the natural production of interferon beta in lung cells, according to Tom Wilkinson, professor of respiratory medicine at University Hospital Southampton.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 26, 2020 10:38:06 GMT
Got to laugh at the Transport Secretary managing to get himself a 14-day isolation, under conditions set by his own department.
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Jul 26, 2020 10:47:02 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 26, 2020 10:47:02 GMT
Got to laugh at the Transport Secretary managing to get himself a 14-day isolation, under conditions set by his own department. As if he’s going to abide by it though. He’ll be driving to test his eyesight on every one of those 14 days. |
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Jul 27, 2020 5:32:53 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 27, 2020 5:32:53 GMT
Spain’s ‘second wave’ has prompted this major u-turn on travel advice by our government, yet their daily case figures are barely above ours and we’re not even out of our first wave.
Spanish epidemiologist and WHO consultant Daniel Lopez Acuña tells “The World This Weekend” that 14 regions of Spain have a lower infection rate than the average in the UK. Three regions (Navarra, Aragon,Catalonia) exceed it. He says the UK move is “unjustified epidemiologically”.
Our media has completely failed to highlight that our daily death toll is several times that of France, Germany, Italy and Spain. The government says it's time to move on and the media uncritically go with it.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 27, 2020 6:18:14 GMT
It's laughable really. My neighbour is from the Canary Islands, which has had about 2,500 cases out of a population of over 2 million. Geographically, it's Africa, and it's ludicrous to treat it in the same way as the rest of Spain. Understandably, they're more worried about British holidaymakers going there and spreading it.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jul 27, 2020 9:08:50 GMT
12 Covid19 deaths in Spain in the last 5 days as opposed to 426 in the U.K.
The whole quarantine thing is either just a stunt to reassure the brainwashed masses that we are doing better than we are or it’s some Brexshit related posturing. Either way, it’s pretty safe to say that many businesses will go to the wall because of this, but the Tories don’t care about that.
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Jul 27, 2020 11:21:54 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jul 27, 2020 11:21:54 GMT
It does seem like a distraction, as does the latest rehash of the old tactic of blaming fat people.
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Post by luke90 on Jul 27, 2020 11:35:59 GMT
Got to laugh at the Transport Secretary managing to get himself a 14-day isolation, under conditions set by his own department. Why? If they have been advised by the scientific/health advisers it is on the rise and action needs to be taken, they have done the right thing. |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 27, 2020 11:57:47 GMT
Got to laugh at the Transport Secretary managing to get himself a 14-day isolation, under conditions set by his own department. Why? If they have been advised by the scientific/health advisers it is on the rise and action needs to be taken, they have done the right thing. True but you could question the wisdom of going to Spain at present.
A small issue really. It seems a bit typical of the daft, making-it-up-as-you-go along policies of the government.
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Jul 27, 2020 12:30:25 GMT
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Post by luke90 on Jul 27, 2020 12:30:25 GMT
Why? If they have been advised by the scientific/health advisers it is on the rise and action needs to be taken, they have done the right thing. True but you could question the wisdom of going to Spain at present.
A small issue really. It seems a bit typical of the daft, making-it-up-as-you-go along policies of the government.
Good point, but each to their own. Just seems like they have done it early this time, people don't like it. Even though a lot of people, especially on this thread were slating the government for not taking action sooner, and quite rightly too might i add. |
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The wisdom of anybody going abroad at the moment needs questioning. especially as the government has done exactly what they said they would do should it become necessary. Listening to 1 o'clock news the travel industry don't agree with the decision. But they would say that wouldn't they
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Jul 27, 2020 12:41:30 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 27, 2020 12:41:30 GMT
True but you could question the wisdom of going to Spain at present.
A small issue really. It seems a bit typical of the daft, making-it-up-as-you-go along policies of the government.
Good point, but each to their own. Just seems like they have done it early this time, people don't like it. Even though a lot of people, especially on this thread were slating the government for not taking action sooner, and quite rightly too might i add. Which death toll number is worse? 12 or 426? |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Jul 27, 2020 13:28:18 GMT
True but you could question the wisdom of going to Spain at present.
A small issue really. It seems a bit typical of the daft, making-it-up-as-you-go along policies of the government.
Good point, but each to their own. Just seems like they have done it early this time, people don't like it. Even though a lot of people, especially on this thread were slating the government for not taking action sooner, and quite rightly too might i add. 14 day isolation on returning from parts of Spain with hardly any new cases, but you can happily drive into Leicester and work in a sweatshop with no restrictions. Tories eh..? You would have to laugh if we didn't have nearly 50000 deaths. |
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Jul 27, 2020 13:55:06 GMT
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Post by arthuro on Jul 27, 2020 13:55:06 GMT
Good point, but each to their own. Just seems like they have done it early this time, people don't like it. Even though a lot of people, especially on this thread were slating the government for not taking action sooner, and quite rightly too might i add. Which death toll number is worse? 12 or 426? Both are bad. 438 families going through pain and suffering. So forget about some self-entitled I’ll do what I want individual’s and his family’s “ruined” trip to Malaga, it is those 438 families that deserve our sympathy and thoughts. |
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Jul 27, 2020 14:13:23 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 27, 2020 14:13:23 GMT
Which death toll number is worse? 12 or 426? Both are bad. 438 families going through pain and suffering. So forget about some self-entitled I’ll do what I want individual’s and his family’s “ruined” trip to Malaga, it is those 438 families that deserve our sympathy and thoughts. Obviously I agree. The point I was making in response to the post I quoted was the discrepancy beteeen what the U.K. government have announced this weekend in relation to 12 deaths in five days (quarantine) compared with their actions in relation to 426 deaths in five days (spend spend spend, go to the pub, eat out). |
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Post by luke90 on Jul 27, 2020 15:04:54 GMT
Good point, but each to their own. Just seems like they have done it early this time, people don't like it. Even though a lot of people, especially on this thread were slating the government for not taking action sooner, and quite rightly too might i add. Which death toll number is worse? 12 or 426? Obviously our death toll is worse, but the infection is spreading a lot quicker in Spain currently. This is most likely why it has been imposed. You can't fault them for reacting quickly if the picture is changing, that is the point i'm making. |
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Jul 27, 2020 15:08:43 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 27, 2020 15:08:43 GMT
Which death toll number is worse? 12 or 426? Obviously our death toll is worse, but the infection is spreading a lot quicker in Spain currently. This is most likely why it has been imposed. You can't fault them for reacting quickly if the picture is changing, that is the point i'm making. So how come we’re all allowed to go to the pub and have half price meals out here then? |
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Post by delamereal on Jul 27, 2020 15:44:52 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-5353463839 cases per 100,000 in Spain over the last fortnight more than double that of the UK and France (only 15). Oh and 7 UK deaths yesterday, less than Spain.
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Jul 27, 2020 16:04:56 GMT
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Post by luke90 on Jul 27, 2020 16:04:56 GMT
www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueeaObviously our death toll is worse, but the infection is spreading a lot quicker in Spain currently. This is most likely why it has been imposed. You can't fault them for reacting quickly if the picture is changing, that is the point i'm making. So how come we’re all allowed to go to the pub and have half price meals out here then? Because our figures are going down? I'm not really sure what you lot are outraged about on this decision? |
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Jul 27, 2020 17:21:52 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 27, 2020 17:21:52 GMT
123 COVID-19 deaths in the UK recorded in 24 hours. 3 in Spain.
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