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Post by jedthehumanoid on Jan 13, 2021 15:30:24 GMT
Scotland to tighten restrictions from Saturday with click and collect only available for essential items. What is essential is listed on The Scotsman as clothes and footwear, baby equipment, homeware and books. People should also have staggered collection times to alleviate queues and cannot enter stores. Full article www.scotsman.com/news/politics/coronavirus-scotland-takeaway-and-click-and-collect-services-hit-new-restrictions-3094668How long before similar is announced for the rest of the UK do we think? Restrictions in Wales and Scotland have been similar throughout so I'd expect Wales to follow suit. Northern Ireland have already stopped click and collect. That list for click and collect in Scotland is basically everything then. Well that's tightened things up loads hasn't it. They are pretty broad definitions. Homeware is pretty vague for example. Vehicles don't seem to be mentioned anywhere that I've looked so that may be one change. We're operating click and collect as well as home delivery at the moment so any change will just make all sales home delivery. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Jan 13, 2021 16:13:57 GMT
Not going to mention the store but my wife tells me today that one of their sister stores in this area had now had 50 staff as confirmed cases of Covid and another 30 are isolating .
But hey ho the supermarkets are still ramming the customers in with hardly any of the queuing in lockdown 1.
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Post by Si on Jan 13, 2021 16:18:21 GMT
Anyone see Matt Hancock on Piers Morgan this morning? Regardless of what you think of Morgan, he was asking a valid question and Hancock was squirming. It was about the pressure Rashford put on the government to implement free school meals with Hancock saying he's glad its sorted, but as Morgan rightly pointed out Hancock voted against the idea initially. Hancock's squirming when asked if regrets voting against it was absolutely toe curling. He evaded the question about 10 times and kept repeating he's glad its sorted. Forgot Labour vs Tories, this behaviour from politicians really winds me up - it's the same sort of thing when Cummins went for his eye test drive.....it's like they cannot ever admit any weakness or regret. Either Matt Hancock should have stuck to his principles and said he stood by his vote at the time and give some context as to why he voted against it, or simply admit he got it wrong and regretted voting against it - surely it's more endearing for a politician to have some principles rather than embarrassingly avoid a question and hope the other person drops it. At a time where they're asking the public to be compliant and listen to their guidelines, I can't help thinking they'd get a little bit more buy in if they did hold their hand up and admit to some mistakes, rather than avoiding the issues and making themselves seem even more detached from the public in the process. Politicians are constantly scrutinised for their character, integrity, honesty, and seeing things like that this morning just made Hancock look like even slimier and detached from reality than what he already seemed - another own goal.
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Post by jedthehumanoid on Jan 13, 2021 16:33:32 GMT
Anyone see Matt Hancock on Piers Morgan this morning? Regardless of what you think of Morgan, he was asking a valid question and Hancock was squirming. It was about the pressure Rashford put on the government to implement free school meals with Hancock saying he's glad its sorted, but as Morgan rightly pointed out Hancock voted against the idea initially. Hancock's squirming when asked if regrets voting against it was absolutely toe curling. He evaded the question about 10 times and kept repeating he's glad its sorted. Forgot Labour vs Tories, this behaviour from politicians really winds me up - it's the same sort of thing when Cummins went for his eye test drive.....it's like they cannot ever admit any weakness or regret. Either Matt Hancock should have stuck to his principles and said he stood by his vote at the time and give some context as to why he voted against it, or simply admit he got it wrong and regretted voting against it - surely it's more endearing for a politician to have some principles rather than embarrassingly avoid a question and hope the other person drops it. At a time where they're asking the public to be compliant and listen to their guidelines, I can't help thinking they'd get a little bit more buy in if they did hold their hand up and admit to some mistakes, rather than avoiding the issues and making themselves seem even more detached from the public in the process. Politicians are constantly scrutinised for their character, integrity, honesty, and seeing things like that this morning just made Hancock look like even slimier and detached from reality than what he already seemed - another own goal. I wonder if they do it because sometimes evading the question doesn't produce a headline, where as coming down one way or another would. For example, would saying he regrets it produce 'Flip Flop Hancock' headlines or similar? I'd prefer someone in his position to answer the question, but he's not alone in waffle and evasion. The whole system needs a kick up the arse to make people accountable. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 13, 2021 16:47:14 GMT
Anyone see Matt Hancock on Piers Morgan this morning? Regardless of what you think of Morgan, he was asking a valid question and Hancock was squirming. It was about the pressure Rashford put on the government to implement free school meals with Hancock saying he's glad its sorted, but as Morgan rightly pointed out Hancock voted against the idea initially. Hancock's squirming when asked if regrets voting against it was absolutely toe curling. He evaded the question about 10 times and kept repeating he's glad its sorted. Forgot Labour vs Tories, this behaviour from politicians really winds me up - it's the same sort of thing when Cummins went for his eye test drive.....it's like they cannot ever admit any weakness or regret. Either Matt Hancock should have stuck to his principles and said he stood by his vote at the time and give some context as to why he voted against it, or simply admit he got it wrong and regretted voting against it - surely it's more endearing for a politician to have some principles rather than embarrassingly avoid a question and hope the other person drops it. At a time where they're asking the public to be compliant and listen to their guidelines, I can't help thinking they'd get a little bit more buy in if they did hold their hand up and admit to some mistakes, rather than avoiding the issues and making themselves seem even more detached from the public in the process. Politicians are constantly scrutinised for their character, integrity, honesty, and seeing things like that this morning just made Hancock look like even slimier and detached from reality than what he already seemed - another own goal. I wonder if they do it because sometimes evading the question doesn't produce a headline, where as coming down one way or another would. For example, would saying he regrets it produce 'Flip Flop Hancock' headlines or similar? I'd prefer someone in his position to answer the question, but he's not alone in waffle and evasion. The whole system needs a kick up the arse to make people accountable. Exactly, which is why they destroyed Corbyn: he spoke in paragraphs and tried to give honest answers. These days it’s just soundbite politics with no substance; one of the reasons Gavin Williamson has been promoted way beyond his abilities. As a bit of a politics junkie I enjoy watching the old Election Specials from the 60s and 70s they sometimes show on BBC Parliament. It is really refreshing to see politicians from both sides of the House giving detailed, honest answers to really probing questions. |
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Post by Lobster on Jan 13, 2021 17:19:43 GMT
Anyone see Matt Hancock on Piers Morgan this morning? Regardless of what you think of Morgan, he was asking a valid question and Hancock was squirming. It was about the pressure Rashford put on the government to implement free school meals with Hancock saying he's glad its sorted, but as Morgan rightly pointed out Hancock voted against the idea initially. Hancock's squirming when asked if regrets voting against it was absolutely toe curling. He evaded the question about 10 times and kept repeating he's glad its sorted. Forgot Labour vs Tories, this behaviour from politicians really winds me up - it's the same sort of thing when Cummins went for his eye test drive.....it's like they cannot ever admit any weakness or regret. Either Matt Hancock should have stuck to his principles and said he stood by his vote at the time and give some context as to why he voted against it, or simply admit he got it wrong and regretted voting against it - surely it's more endearing for a politician to have some principles rather than embarrassingly avoid a question and hope the other person drops it. At a time where they're asking the public to be compliant and listen to their guidelines, I can't help thinking they'd get a little bit more buy in if they did hold their hand up and admit to some mistakes, rather than avoiding the issues and making themselves seem even more detached from the public in the process. Politicians are constantly scrutinised for their character, integrity, honesty, and seeing things like that this morning just made Hancock look like even slimier and detached from reality than what he already seemed - another own goal. I find Conservative MPs' constant praise of Rashford embarrassing. They clearly don't agree with him (all but 5 out of 330-odd of them anyway), so why do they keep fawning over him? I'd rather they said he's misguided and quixotic and that if families are in poverty it's tough shit, as that's obviously what they believe.
Also, yet again, it's a footballer putting more pressure on the government than the Leader of the Opposition can manage.
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Post by Si on Jan 13, 2021 18:08:18 GMT
Anyone see Matt Hancock on Piers Morgan this morning? Regardless of what you think of Morgan, he was asking a valid question and Hancock was squirming. It was about the pressure Rashford put on the government to implement free school meals with Hancock saying he's glad its sorted, but as Morgan rightly pointed out Hancock voted against the idea initially. Hancock's squirming when asked if regrets voting against it was absolutely toe curling. He evaded the question about 10 times and kept repeating he's glad its sorted. Forgot Labour vs Tories, this behaviour from politicians really winds me up - it's the same sort of thing when Cummins went for his eye test drive.....it's like they cannot ever admit any weakness or regret. Either Matt Hancock should have stuck to his principles and said he stood by his vote at the time and give some context as to why he voted against it, or simply admit he got it wrong and regretted voting against it - surely it's more endearing for a politician to have some principles rather than embarrassingly avoid a question and hope the other person drops it. At a time where they're asking the public to be compliant and listen to their guidelines, I can't help thinking they'd get a little bit more buy in if they did hold their hand up and admit to some mistakes, rather than avoiding the issues and making themselves seem even more detached from the public in the process. Politicians are constantly scrutinised for their character, integrity, honesty, and seeing things like that this morning just made Hancock look like even slimier and detached from reality than what he already seemed - another own goal. I find Conservative MPs' constant praise of Rashford embarrassing. They clearly don't agree with him (all but 5 out of 330-odd of them anyway), so why do they keep fawning over him? I'd rather they said he's misguided and quixotic and that if families are in poverty it's tough shit, as that's obviously what they believe.
Also, yet again, it's a footballer putting more pressure on the government than the Leader of the Opposition can manage.
Hancock frequently bangs on the public doing their civil duty by following the restrictions - well perhaps he could do us the duty of answering a simple question which really wasn't a difficult one. |
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 13, 2021 18:58:21 GMT
I find Conservative MPs' constant praise of Rashford embarrassing. They clearly don't agree with him (all but 5 out of 330-odd of them anyway), so why do they keep fawning over him? I'd rather they said he's misguided and quixotic and that if families are in poverty it's tough shit, as that's obviously what they believe.
Also, yet again, it's a footballer putting more pressure on the government than the Leader of the Opposition can manage.
Hancock frequently bangs on the public doing their civil duty by following the restrictions - well perhaps he could do us the duty of answering a simple question which really wasn't a difficult one. Unfortunately, whatever the party, actually answering a question with a simple or yes or no is a thing of the past. Hancock is the master of saying loads but actually saying f@@k all. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jan 16, 2021 13:03:43 GMT
I see that the UK has administered more doses of vaccine than Italy France Germany and Spain combined link |
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Post by delamereal on Jan 16, 2021 13:27:10 GMT
I see that the UK has administered more doses of vaccine than Italy France Germany and Spain combinedlink Not surprised that the usual ranters have chosen not to comment on this....oh wait one of them is banned.  I'm sure he would have remarked how proud he is of this fact. |
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 16, 2021 13:58:21 GMT
I see that the UK has administered more doses of vaccine than Italy France Germany and Spain combinedlink Not surprised that the usual ranters have chosen not to comment on this....oh wait one of them is banned. I'm sure he would have remarked how proud he is of this fact. No he would have said that the vaccine rollout is purely down to the NHS staff and armed forces, who are all Labour supporters obviously, and nothing to do with the government. Of course when they fail to hit the 15m target by mid Feb it will then be down to government and nothing to do with anyone else. Saying this, old Boris never learns does he. I’d love to see them hit 15m people vaccinated by mid Feb, but that’s 4 weeks to do another 12m. This means about 400k a day, when at present we’re doing 200k. Don’t get me wrong it’s a remarkable effort but he does have a habit of setting unrealistic targets and setting himself up for a fall. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 16, 2021 16:09:47 GMT
I see that the UK has administered more doses of vaccine than Italy France Germany and Spain combined linkIs it now safe to make international comparisons again? I’m old enough to remember when they used to compare our death rates with the rest of Europe at every Covid19 press briefing. Not sure why they stopped doing that, perhaps you can enlighten us? |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 16, 2021 16:10:22 GMT
I see that the UK has administered more doses of vaccine than Italy France Germany and Spain combinedlink Not surprised that the usual ranters have chosen not to comment on this....oh wait one of them is banned. I'm sure he would have remarked how proud he is of this fact. Rather be a ranter than a sucker. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 16, 2021 16:11:17 GMT
Not surprised that the usual ranters have chosen not to comment on this....oh wait one of them is banned. I'm sure he would have remarked how proud he is of this fact. No he would have said that the vaccine rollout is purely down to the NHS staff and armed forces, who are all Labour supporters obviously, and nothing to do with the government. Of course when they fail to hit the 15m target by mid Feb it will then be down to government and nothing to do with anyone else. Saying this, old Boris never learns does he. I’d love to see them hit 15m people vaccinated by mid Feb, but that’s 4 weeks to do another 12m. This means about 400k a day, when at present we’re doing 200k. Don’t get me wrong it’s a remarkable effort but he does have a habit of setting unrealistic targets and setting himself up for a fall. Clearly I’m living rent-free in your head. Hats in the air for me. |
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 16, 2021 16:14:00 GMT
320k vaccines in last 24 hours fair play that’s phenomenal.
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 16, 2021 17:06:25 GMT
No he would have said that the vaccine rollout is purely down to the NHS staff and armed forces, who are all Labour supporters obviously, and nothing to do with the government. Of course when they fail to hit the 15m target by mid Feb it will then be down to government and nothing to do with anyone else. Saying this, old Boris never learns does he. I’d love to see them hit 15m people vaccinated by mid Feb, but that’s 4 weeks to do another 12m. This means about 400k a day, when at present we’re doing 200k. Don’t get me wrong it’s a remarkable effort but he does have a habit of setting unrealistic targets and setting himself up for a fall. Clearly I’m living rent-free in your head. Hats in the air for me. I wondered what the constant whining sound in my ears was. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 16, 2021 17:21:42 GMT
Clearly I’m living rent-free in your head. Hats in the air for me. I wondered what the constant whining sound in my ears was. Could be a slow puncture in the Missus. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 16, 2021 17:26:04 GMT
I wondered what the constant whining sound in my ears was. Could be a slow puncture in the Missus. Good one Ian! 🤣 |
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 16, 2021 17:29:34 GMT
I wondered what the constant whining sound in my ears was. Could be a slow puncture in the Missus. Have you got the missus in there with you as well?. I hope you’ve remembered your puncture repair kit |
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Post by jedthehumanoid on Jan 18, 2021 9:09:36 GMT
I'm no fan of Boris Johnson or this government but the deployment of vaccines thus far isn't something you can gripe about. They do seem to be rolling it out rapidly.
The opposite seems to be true in Wales where around half of the doses have been held back, apparently due to worries around supply and vaccine centres sitting idle. Surely it's best to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as you can? I've generally been happy with how the Welsh government have handled things so far but this looks like a miss to me.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Jan 19, 2021 15:11:51 GMT
So as the UK hits the number one spot, making us the worst in the world for Covid death rates, the Health Secretary announces he has to self isolate until Sunday, convenient for him. Wonder who the Government will put up in the daily briefing to try and defend this figure, the Transport Secretary perhaps, The Minister for funny walks or the one that looks like Lord Charles who thinks fish are happier swimming in UK waters.
Wonder if Hancock will be getting SSP?.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 19, 2021 17:18:37 GMT
1610 deaths announced today. Total failure of Government.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jan 19, 2021 19:13:11 GMT
- Highest death rate in the world
- One of the deepest recessions amongst major economies
- Nearly 100,000 dead
- Trying to starve destitute schoolchildren
- Trying to take £20 off Universal Credit and pushing another 500,000 into poverty
And to top it off, the combination of their naked corruption and obsession with fiscal belt-tightening means they're trying their level best to liquidate our football club over a measly £11m.
Chickens well and truly coming home to roost for the Tory voters on here.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 20, 2021 6:37:24 GMT
- Highest death rate in the world - One of the deepest recessions amongst major economies - Nearly 100,000 dead - Trying to starve destitute schoolchildren - Trying to take £20 off Universal Credit and pushing another 500,000 into poverty And to top it off, the combination of their naked corruption and obsession with fiscal belt-tightening means they're trying their level best to liquidate our football club over a measly £11m. Chickens well and truly coming home to roost for the Tory voters on here. In tiny Tory minds this Government is doing a cracking job, as it’s tackling the two most pressing issues facing the nation: Alan Sugar’s tax liability and you know, stuff about immigrants. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 26, 2021 19:45:51 GMT
At 883, the total number of U.K. health and care workers killed by coronavirus is almost as many as the total number of Covid19 deaths in Australia. Absolutely shocking and shameful statistic link |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Jan 27, 2021 10:52:29 GMT
So as the UK hits the number one spot, making us the worst in the world for Covid death rates, the Health Secretary announces he has to self isolate until Sunday, convenient for him. Wonder who the Government will put up in the daily briefing to try and defend this figure, the Transport Secretary perhaps, The Minister for funny walks or the one that looks like Lord Charles who thinks fish are happier swimming in UK waters. Wonder if Hancock will be getting SSP?. Apologies for quoting myself but on the day after we have hit the very disturbing landmark of 100,000 official recorded deaths, who will the Government roll out to set out the strategy going forward to combat a public health pandemic? Must be the Health Secretary surely? Will the PM manage to do two days work on the trot? Maybe the Home Secretary perhaps? No it will be Robert Jenrick the Housing Secretary. That fountain of knowledge on all things to do with Public Health. Absolute shambles of a Government |
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Post by jedthehumanoid on Jan 27, 2021 11:59:52 GMT
Passing 100k deaths using all three main measurements (government, ONS and excess deaths) is really grim and there's so much that could've been done to reduce this number significantly. That's not just hindsight either, things that were obvious at the time but were either delayed or not implemented. The rapid vaccine rollout is small consolation.
I hope the government aren't let off the hook in all of the hype around the vaccine rollout and a proper inquiry is held in to their actions. I won't hold my breath though.
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Post by superman on Jan 27, 2021 12:13:02 GMT
I wonder what future annual mortality figure from this virus the scientists would consider “acceptable” following the full vaccine rollout. We have an annual influenza vaccine programme which still results in typically 20000 deaths annually, although this is quite variable. Lockdowns and extended influenza vaccination are reportedly lowering the impact of flu this winter so far.
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 27, 2021 12:17:01 GMT
So as the UK hits the number one spot, making us the worst in the world for Covid death rates, the Health Secretary announces he has to self isolate until Sunday, convenient for him. Wonder who the Government will put up in the daily briefing to try and defend this figure, the Transport Secretary perhaps, The Minister for funny walks or the one that looks like Lord Charles who thinks fish are happier swimming in UK waters. Wonder if Hancock will be getting SSP?. Apologies for quoting myself but on the day after we have hit the very disturbing landmark of 100,000 official recorded deaths, who will the Government roll out to set out the strategy going forward to combat a public health pandemic? Must be the Health Secretary surely? Will the PM manage to do two days work on the trot? Maybe the Home Secretary perhaps? No it will be Robert Jenrick the Housing Secretary. That fountain of knowledge on all things to do with Public Health. Absolute shambles of a Government To be fair to him he did a cracking job of avoiding the answer to every question put to him while looking very sad. I also thought the Shadow Health Secretary did a decent job of avoiding giving a straight answer when he was asked what would they have done different to the Tories if they'd been in power. You just find yourself wanting to scream at the telly 'Just answer the f@@king question for Christ's sake'. I think the most sensible and believable politician I've seen interviewed during this crisis has been Jonathan Reynolds. He actually managed to give straight answers to questions that were put to him without looking uncomfortable. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 27, 2021 12:34:46 GMT
So as the UK hits the number one spot, making us the worst in the world for Covid death rates, the Health Secretary announces he has to self isolate until Sunday, convenient for him. Wonder who the Government will put up in the daily briefing to try and defend this figure, the Transport Secretary perhaps, The Minister for funny walks or the one that looks like Lord Charles who thinks fish are happier swimming in UK waters. Wonder if Hancock will be getting SSP?. Apologies for quoting myself but on the day after we have hit the very disturbing landmark of 100,000 official recorded deaths, who will the Government roll out to set out the strategy going forward to combat a public health pandemic? Must be the Health Secretary surely? Will the PM manage to do two days work on the trot? Maybe the Home Secretary perhaps? No it will be Robert Jenrick the Housing Secretary. That fountain of knowledge on all things to do with Public Health. Absolute shambles of a Government Jenrick has the rare gift of looking both deeply sinister and deeply incompetent. |
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